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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
& Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:01:15 CST
Subject: PUBYAC digest 101
PUBYAC Digest 101
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) teen site typo
by Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
2) Harry Potter Party Idea
by "Deb B." <debs4jc@yahoo.com>
3) Re: filtering?
by "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
4) Re: Cyber Patrol
by "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
5) Website photos of kids
by Christian et Nancy Meloche <meloche@idea-jar.com>
6) RE: Button Makers
by Jackie Amos <jamos@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
7) (no subject)
by Teresa Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
8) RE: harry potter programs
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
9) Re: summer reading club--counting minutes
by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
10) Library sleepovers
by Marengo Public Library <marp3@mc.net>
11) RE: summer reading club--counting minutes
by "Douglas, Sherri S." <DouglasSS@ci.anchorage.ak.us>
12) Re: filtering?
by Virginia Cooper <vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
13) Re: Name for YA Area
by "S. Fichtelberg" <sfichtel@infolink.org>
14) RE: Rudeness
by rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com>
15) What book is this?
by Donna Worth <dworth@mtlib.org>
16) Stumpers:doll themed novel,
by Patti Gonzales <pa_gonz@yahoo.com>
17) Stumper--Where the Wind Blows
by "Myers, Kay A." <MyersKA@ci.anchorage.ak.us>
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From: Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: yalsa-bk@ala.org, PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: teen site typo
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:09:45 CST
Warning: www.teen.com is a popular teen website among my YA
patrons. Tonight two very embarrassed young ladies came to the desk to
show me how they had accidently typed in "www.teens.com" which took
them
to a pornographic site. Worse, their terminal was hijacked by a
pornographic java cascade (the kind that makes it impossible for you to
exit, and just keeps opening new porn windows). I don't know what we can
do to prevent this kind of problem (which I consider the equivalent of
flashing), but forewarned is forearmed, as they say...
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~ Lesley Knieriem ~
~ YA / Reference Librarian (631) 549-4411 ~
~ South Huntington Public Library fax (631) 549-6832 ~
~ Huntington Station, NY 11746 lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us ~
~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~
~ "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can; ~
~ I know I can, I know I can, I know I can, I know I c-- oh, sh*t!" ~
~ -- John's Daddy, demonstrating how one climbs the BIG ladder ~
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From: "Deb B." <debs4jc@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Harry Potter Party Idea
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:25:21 CST
I thought some of you might like this game I made up
for a Harry Potter program we had at our library. I
call it "Wizard's Duel". I compiled a list of various
terms and characters from the book. I put the words
in a "wizard's hat". We had two teams. Each team
would draw a word and then they had to tell me what it
was (or if it was a character what they did, taught,
etc.). Each team also had 2 "exspelliramus's (I'm
not sure if I spelled that right). When they used
these they could pass on the word and make the other
team try to define it. It worked pretty well except
my kids were so smart it was hard to stump them! It
might have worked better if I had individual team
members try to define the words instead of letting the
teams pool their knowledge.
Deb B.
Assistant Children's Librarian
Leavenworth Public Library
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From: "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: filtering?
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:36:42 CST
We just recently got a station in the Children's department. We didn't
want to use filters for the same reasons you mentioned. So we reached what
I think is a good compromise. We have a selected few search engines, such
as Yahooligans and Ask Jeeves that come up on the screen when the patrons
log on. The address bar is "hidden", though it can be accessed if
needed.
We let the parents know that this is the case and stress that it is not a
filter, but simply a way to guide the search toward more kid-friendly sites.
Before setting up the stations, all the librarians in the department
tested several sites using both assignment related terms and other more
risque terms to see what we could and couldn't find. We also evaluated them
on ease of use. So far, this seems to working well.
(new subscriber)
Clare Meehan
Carol Stream Public Library
Carol Stream,IL
clare329@earthlink.net
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>From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: filtering?
>Date: Thu, Mar 23, 2000, 4:11 PM
>
> Had a father in last night who came very close to having a major
> coronary right in front of me; he was in with his 10? year old daughter
> who's a Britney Spears fan and she wanted to find some web sites on her
> hero. A LOT of the sites listed were very questionable in nature
> including a few purporting to offer graphic scenes of Ms. Spears being
> violated in exotic ways. Needless to say he got his daughter away from
> the screen faster than the speed of light, after which he came over to
> engage in dialogue with me about his degree of unhappiness with this
> situation and his disbelief that kids all across the country are
> inadvertantly stumbling across this kind of putrescence. When I saw
> what he was stressed about I was a pretty unhappy camper myself; I
> explained to him that we strongly encourage parents to use the web with
> their kids for reasons just such as this, and that we did not offer
> filters because there was so much that they would miss etc. Because I
> was able to sound genuinely sympathetic to his concerns he committed no
> acts of violence upon my person, but he's never going to feel safe
> sending his daughter in our direction alone again, and I feel as though
> our good name has again been besmirched by the kind of moral eunuchs who
> attempt this kind of profiteering and place their blandishments
> deliberately in view of children on the computers we make available. I
> KNOW - filters would bring with them a whole new host of problems, but
> sometimes I surely do wonder whether they could be any worse than the
> ones we encounter under our current "Let the user beware no matter how
> young they are " system. You may not agree with the solutions proposed
> by folks who want us to do something to make web use safer, but at
> least aknowledge that they often have very legitimate reasons for having
> the kind of high blood pressure that they are wont to display. Strikes
> me as sadly curious that you can't legally use verbal obscenitys in
> public in the presence of children (at least in our state) but that you
> can be vile as can be on the public forum of the web without fear of
> legal consequences. Ruminatinig on my own, NOT as a representative of
> my institution -
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo District Library
> Romeo, MI.
>
>
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From: "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Cyber Patrol
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:48:49 CST
At 04:30 PM 3/23/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi. We use CyberPatrol here at the Mesquite Public Library. It was
>fairly easy to set up and maintain. I am not aware that anyone has
>been blocked from an innocuous site--nobody has come and reported
>something like that. CyberPatrol does have quite a few ways of
>customizing--what subjects you want to block, what times you want
>filters to run, even sections of the Internet, like chat rooms and
>bulletin boards.
Comment here: our staff terminals are filtered ("because everyone at Town
Hall is") using CyberPatrol. (And yes, this currently means the terminals
at our reference desks, too.) I have been blocked from the babelfish
translator and (I don't have this quite right) go.translator.com
. CyberPatrol's reasoning: these sites don't just translate text, they can
also act as an "anonymizer". I can't remember all the categories that
are
blocked, but I think they only left off Sports and Leisure and one other.
Whatever the choices were, this "anonymizing" seems to be a no-no.
Don't
ask me what I think of this personally. But perhaps you can imagine.
Miriam
(I would love to put my .sig here, but this being a tender subject, I will
err on the side of discretion.)
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From: Christian et Nancy Meloche <meloche@idea-jar.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Website photos of kids
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:58:06 CST
Just wondering if anyone knows whether it is necessary to get parental
permission when using photos taken during library events on your
library's website? Is it necessary for group shots or just those of
individual children ?
Thanks for your help
Nancy Meloche
Head of children's and young adult services
American Library in Paris
nmeloche@cybercable.fr
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From: Jackie Amos <jamos@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Button Makers
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:07:21 CST
Branch Administration's first Badge-A-Minit button maker was the Bench =
System. It is still in use as a back-up. In 1994 we purchased the =
Badge-A-Matic II and Electronic Cut-A-Circle. The machines are easy to =
use and have been trouble-free, the buttons are as good as most =
commercial ones.
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From: Teresa Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac listserve <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:16:48 CST
Hello,
I need some not so obvious information. We are in the very
beginning stages of an expansion project at our library. I would like to
find out what the "average" square footage of the children's area in a
typical library is compared to the total square footage of the library. We
feel that the most important aspect of a good children's area is plenty of
space, and are trying to figure out how much is enough. (Is there such
thing as enough space!) Please respond directly to me at
lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us. Thanks for your help.
Terry Lambert,
Childrens Services,
Bluffton Public Library
Bluffton, Ohio 45817
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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: harry potter programs
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:26:28 CST
Yes, you can, but act fast -- ours took forever to get here. And they
didn't send any temporary tattoos, either. :(
Send a self-addressed adhesive envelope label with your request to:
Harry Potter Activity Kit Offer
Attn: Sonia Bundridge
Scholastic, Inc.
555 Broadway
New York, NY 10012-3999
Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org
Cook Memorial Public Library
Libertyville, IL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Sexton [SMTP:csexton@hyperaction.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 4:17 PM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: harry potter programs
>
> I need help ......I would like to do a Harry Potter Program this summer =
> ( a one day deal ) and need some guidance....I deleted all those great =
> ideas earlier and would like some suggestions. Can I still get a Harry =
> Potter Kit from scholastic? Thanks once =
> again.....csexton@hyperaction.net
> Carol Sexton
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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: summer reading club--counting minutes
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:35:48 CST
We ask that they read for at least 15 minutes a day for at least 30 days, and
give them a time track containing 30 theme related clilp art pictures on which
they keep track of their time spent; for each day they read at least 15 minutes,
they cross off/color in another picture. After each 5 days read they can bring
in their time tracks to receive little prizes. It's simple, it works, people
like it, and you don't have to worry about whether participants are reading at
their proper levels or not.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
"S. Fichtelberg" wrote:
> We are thinking of changing the way we do our summer reading club, from
> counting books to counting minutes. Any suggestions on how to do this would
> be welcome. Thanks.
>
> Susan
> sfichtel@infolink.org
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From: Marengo Public Library <marp3@mc.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Library sleepovers
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:45:05 CST
Dear PUBYACers
I am also considering doing a library sleepover. If you have any good
suggestions, would you mind forwarding them to me too? So far, the members of
my staff that I have approached with this idea seem to think that I have gone
nuts, and carefully start edging away in case my insanity might be catching!
:) I know that in most libraries, this has been a very popular program, but
I, too, am a little uncertain as to the logistics of how this could work.
What could we do all night? My direct e-mail is marp3@mc.net
Thanks for your help!
Elizabeth C. Riak
Marengo Public Library
marp3@mc.net
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From: "Douglas, Sherri S." <DouglasSS@ci.anchorage.ak.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: summer reading club--counting minutes
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:54:21 CST
We count minutes for SRP. We use a chart with something that the kids can
color in for each time that they read so many minutes. This year they will
color in animal tracks, last year it was stars. They set a goal and we
suggest (on the reading chart): 15 or 30 minutes for each track for grades 3
and under; 45-60 minutes for each track for grades 4 & above. Then we have
a line of print:
I will color in a track each time I read:
15 30 45 60 minutes (circle one)
Hope this helps. I like minutes because it is more equitable. This year we
are allowing independent reading, listening to books on tape, and listening
to someone else read aloud. This way we have one chart that suits all ages,
birth through high school. In the past we had a read-to-me club.
Sherri Douglas
Anchorage Municipal Libraries
douglasss@ci.anchorage.ak.us
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From: Virginia Cooper <vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: filtering?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:03:35 CST
Chuck-
I have long thought that we are off base in our rejection of filters for
children's terminals. When we first got internet I kept pressing for them,
knowing where all this would lead. I kept having the ALA guidelines
mentioned to me. I wanted them strictly for CYA. We would NEVER buy
materials with the content easily available on the internet. I didn't see a
conflict here.
We had several incidents here that really could have blown up, but
fortunately, the parents involved didn't make an issue.
Sadder and wiser the board has now decided we will have a filtered
children's terminal that anyone under 18 will have to use unless there is
parental permission for nonfiltered use.
Don't have it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. It has been like
sitting on a ticking bomb.
Virginia Cooper
vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
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From: "S. Fichtelberg" <sfichtel@infolink.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Name for YA Area
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:13:00 CST
"Teen Scene" is what we call our area in the children's room where we
put
the cross-over books.
Susan
sfichtel@infolink.org
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From: rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Rudeness
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:22:19 CST
I'm sure it is very difficult for some of you who
have open story hour rooms. However,
I bring up a well-discussed subject to those who have
meeting rooms. Why do you let
parents attend? Unless it is a special occasion
(Easter, Christmas) or Toddler Storytime,
parents in our library so not stay with their children
in storyhour. After all most of these
children are able to attend preschool alone, why not
storyhour? Are we the only library
that has such a rule?
Rebecca Stutzman
North Tonawanda Public Library
North Tonawanda, New York
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From: Donna Worth <dworth@mtlib.org>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: What book is this?
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:32:28 CST
Here's the plot (haha) : people stranded on an island after a shipwreck
and every time they try to get off the island they are terrorized by
killer whales. Read by patron when he was in 9th or 10th grade in the
late '70's. A colleague suggested the title might be "Moby Gilligan"
but, alas, it's not. Any thoughts on this?
Donna Worth
Jefferson County Library System
Whitehall, MT.
"Librarians don't need to know everything, they just need to be able to
tell people where to go!"
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From: Patti Gonzales <pa_gonz@yahoo.com>
To: Pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumpers:doll themed novel,
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:41:48 CST
Hi! We have a couple of stumpers that I hope will
spark someone's memory.
The patron probably read this book during the 60's but
does not know when it was published. The plot
involves a small girl who is taken captive in the
colonial northeast by indians and her doll is taken
with her. The book traces the doll as it passes
through a series of owners and ultimately ends up in a
museum. It's not Hitty or Miss Hickory; I've searched
our catalog and nothing is popping up.
Another patron read, as a young girl, a series of
books in the late 60's that had female protagonists
with a western/cowboy/pioneer theme. The cover
featured pictures of the lead female character.
Sounds like a Stratemeyer series but we did not turn
up anything in our reference sources.
We would appreciate any input. Thanks.
Patti Gonzales & Mara Alpert
Children's Librarians
Children's Literature Dept/Central Library
Los Angeles Public Library
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From: "Myers, Kay A." <MyersKA@ci.anchorage.ak.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper--Where the Wind Blows
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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:51:01 CST
The patron is pretty sure of the title: Where the Wind Blows. It was a new
title in the early 1980s, is a mid-length book with illustrations on all
pages and a fairly long text, for kids age
8-9 and up. The main character, a girl, is bored with home (where the wind
never blows) and takes off to find a place "where the wind blows". Her
home
includes her grandpa and a
windmill.
I've done title and keyword searches in online BIP and OCLC. It isn't any
of the book titles
for "When the Wind Blows".
Reply to me at myerska@ci.anchorage.ak.us
Thanks so very much!
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