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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:01:29 CDT Subject: PUBYAC digest 135 PUBYAC Digest 135 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) YA Mystery Night by Leah Oswald <leahoz@midusa.net> 2) Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday by Alan Broadwell <abroadwe@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us> 3) Gay/Lesbian Theme Booklist by Zaklina Gallagher <zgallagh@dcc.govt.nz> 4) Re: A good kindergarten visit.... by karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com> 5) Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net> 6) Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday by Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com> 7) Responses to idea of quick Dewey search on Kids OPAC by Lu Benke <lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us> 8) Re: Making Masks by "A. Creech" <alisonc@is2.dal.ca> 9) Re: Making Masks by "dlh" <dlh@greennet.net> 10) RE: Graphic novels by carmel <carmel@ulysses.sebridge.org> 11) Programming ideas for LC Bicentennial by Bucalosj@aol.com 12) Juvenile Videos by "Sandy Hartsel" <hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us> 13) stumper- sunlight by "Dawn Longo" <dlongo@suffolk.lib.ny.us> 14) Stumper -- Girl and bear by Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com> 15) Tap Tap Stumper solved! by "Ginny McKee" <ginny1222@hotmail.com> 16) Stumper...boy, dog and imaginative play by klchild@mail.win.org (KL Children's) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Leah Oswald <leahoz@midusa.net> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: YA Mystery Night Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:55:02 CDT Help! I have a group of YA's that would like to do a mystery night, where they act out a mystery. Does anyone out there know where I can get a hold of one appropriate for this age group? Our friends group did one earlier in the year but there was a lot of adult humor in it, and I was hoping that all the people out in PUBYAC land could give me some ideas or resources to contact. Please reply to my directly. If there is enought interest I will make a list to post later. TIA Leah Oswald Youth Services Iola Public Library leahoz@midusa.net Leah Oswald Youth Services Iola Public Library 218 East Madison Iola, KS 66749 (316) 365-3262 ------------------------------ From: Alan Broadwell <abroadwe@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:59:52 CDT Let's get our facts straight. Robert E. Lee was not a "pro-slavery leader". He was quoted as saying two very important things..."slavery is a moral and political evil" and "I wish for no other flag than the Star-Spangled Banner." His 'choice' was determined by where he was born, Virginia. He did not fight the civil war to sustain slavery but to support Virginia and the Confederacy in their fight for individual state's rights. His words after the surrender were "I believe it to be the duty of everyone to unite in the restoration of the country and the reestablishment of peace and harmony. If Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were to have lived at the same time I think that you would have seen them agree on a majority of civil rights issues. alan
------------------------------ From: Zaklina Gallagher <zgallagh@dcc.govt.nz> To: "'PUBYAC'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Gay/Lesbian Theme Booklist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:01:28 CDT I have been asked to compile a booklist of YA material for young adults dealing with the issues of being gay/lesbian or even a story line with gay/lesbian characters. Preferably, recent books - say within the last 5 years. I have started a list and feel I might not come up with the more subtle story lines. Please send me any ideas directly and I will send the list the response. Thanking you all in anticipation. Kind regards Zak Zaklina M. Gallagher Young Adult Librarian Dunedin Public Libraries PO Box 5542, Dunedin Ph: +64-3-4743626 Email: zgallagh@dcc.govt.nz WWW: http://www.CityofDunedin.com
------------------------------ From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: A good kindergarten visit.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:03:04 CDT
I have done many kindergarten class visits in my career at the Queensborough Public Library and at the Hicksville (Long Island), New York Library that I have been associated with for the past four and a half years. First we talk about the library. I try to ask them questions and get them involved instead of my doing all of the talking. I ask them if someone reads to them at home and what they like to have read to them. They usually volunteer fairy tales, dinosaurs, animals, etc. My aim is to let them know that the library has books on all of these subjects. Then I ask them what the library has besides books hoping that they will volunteer such answers as computers, magazines, puzzles, toys, etc. Then we talk about how important their new library card is (we have the teachers come in in enough time to pick up the applications, have them filled out and get them back to us in enough time to be processed and be ready before the class visits). I tell them to find a special spot for their card and the books they take home so that their younger siblings, pets, etc. can't get to them and not to loan their card to anyone else. Then we go over what happens when they take their card and book to the circ desk, how they know when the book is due back, fines, etc. Next comes 1 or 2 stories. After that, we split into groups; one group goes to play educational games on our computers while the other one picks out books to take out; then we switch places. Last but not least, after they check out their books, I remind them to come back to see me when they bring their books back so that I can say hello and help them to find more good books. (They love to come back to me and remind me that they were here with Mrs. --'s class). All this takes approximately one hour. Hope this helps.- ------------------------------ From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:04:36 CDT If the purpose of such holidays is to celebrate an individual's cause, you may be right. If it's to recognize exemplary character as demonstrated by how a person conducts their public and personal life, one suspects strongly that Lee would be honored far more widely than Dr. King, although this is probably not the proper venue for considering such matters in detail. Before you question Lee's nobility, please become better acquainted with him. I believe that the evidence will show that he did not fight to defend the abysmal institution of slavery, but to defend the state he loved above all else. Educators/librarians who are trying to find ways to teach character education could do a great deal worse when they go looking for historical figures worthy of emulation. Is there a good biography of him in your collection? Needless to say I am reflecting my own beliefs on my own time... Chuck Schacht Romeo District Library Romeo, MI. HFL_LISA@stls.org wrote: > I think the question was how you could justify joining a holiday > that celebrates the leader of the Civil Rights movement and one of the > pro slavery leaders of the CIvil War. NOT how you can combine a holiday > such as Presidents day! ------------------------------ From: Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:06:06 CDT I think you may have some mis-information concerning Robert E. Lee. There are some excellent biographies, as well as primary sources, which you may want to check. If you need titles, contact me off-line and I'll be happy to suggest some. Sally Jeanne Kappler Reference Librarian Curtis Memorial Library Brunswick ME 04011 At 04:55 PM 5/8/00 -0500, you wrote: >I think the question was how you could justify joining a holiday >that celebrates the leader of the Civil Rights movement and one of the >pro slavery leaders of the CIvil War. NOT how you can combine a holiday >such as Presidents day! ------------------------------ From: Lu Benke <lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us> To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Responses to idea of quick Dewey search on Kids OPAC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:07:43 CDT
I've been asked to share the responses to our idea that we design a quick Dewey search on our initial Web OPAC for children. And great responses I did get! Thanks to all of you who responded, whether it was to share ideas or cheer us on. Both are very needed as I am not sure I am convincing systems staff here that it is a viable option or needed feature yet. Lu Benke Children's Services Fort Collins Public Library 201 Peterson Street phone: 970-221-6678 Fort Collins, CO 80524 fax: 970-221-6398 lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us
Do this as a web page instead of through III. I just saw Kids Online at the user group meeting and since it is web based you could create a link to the web page with just the info you want to give on it. Sandy Farmer Houston Public Library, Children's Room I'm pretty sure you could provide a link from whatever your Kids' search page would be (assuming you don't just use III's out-of-the-box page and maybe even then) to either an alphabetical list of subjects with Dewey numbers and/or a numerical Dewey list. Another possibility would be to have a link to a map of your Children's Room(s) with hot links on the various stack areas giving more detailed information on each (perhaps including a list of Dewey subjects). I have no idea how customizable III's Kids' Catalog is, but you might also find out if you can replace the images in their "Picture-It" section with images that include the Dewey numbers for each pictured subject. The only problem with this would be that I suppose those pictures eventually lead to a list of subject headings that include fiction as well as nonfiction so it might be a bit misleading. Craig Johnson Iowa City Public Library cjohnson@iowa-city.lib.ia.us There are probably two good ways to go on this. The simplest is probably to buy a web design software like Microsoft FrontPage 2000. I'm sure there are others. FP is one that I KNOW lets you add search forms pretty simply. Besides buying the software (~$110 to $150) you will need to have the company who hosts your site add FrontPage extensions to the server, but most are doing this now. The other option is to add the code yourself and use other companies' developed search engines (there are several ways to do this) on your site. A good source for this type of material is www.htmlgoodies.com. Type "searching your site" or something in the search field and you can see a list for several options. Angela Johnson Teen Services Coordinator Appleton Public Library, WI http://teen.apl.org Have you thought about either a alphabetical subject list instead of a search? Like clicking on that little jumping guy to being up a page with your most asked for Dewey numbers? Latricia Batchelor Tenafly Library jul2474@yahoo.com talen@eclipse.net Why don't you just post a list of commonly searched topics with their corresponding Dewey #s? Perhaps you could have it on your front/welcome page, or on your department homepage. Or on a bookmark (novel idea!) or sign. I think you can do some funky things with your opening page, although I am not familiar with their kids product. I think you may be asking a lot, however, from your patrons (and your system). Are they going to be savvy enough to figure out just what subject they are looking for when given a general list or a search box to fill out? We find ourselves directing patrons to the "state books" only to have them come back to the desk saying "But I can't find any books on Florida!" because they do not know how to find them among all the other state books on the shelf, or do not want to take the time. I know what you are saying about the long trek to find a number via a search in the computer, but by the same token, it does not hurt any of them to make this trek! They will search for hours on end for info on Pokemon or Beanie Babies on the Internet. Every time they do a subject search they are expanding their computer skills, their library skills, their thinking skills and perhaps even coming across some additional titles or subjects that they did not think of initially. Be careful not to "dumb down" things too much, for the sake of convenience or speed! Just my two cents worth! Karen Sonderman Taylor Memorial Public Library Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio In jest, we created an alternate version of the main KidsClick! Page that is linked from our main page: http://www.kidsclick.org/ . Follow the link that says: "What does this page look like through a Librarian's Eyes?" However, we've heard reports that people are putting this prank to good use as a way to supplement their web searching by noting Dewey numbers to try. Now if only the Dewey page linked to our library catalog... Jerry Kuntz Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz@rcls.org ------------------------------ From: "A. Creech" <alisonc@is2.dal.ca> To: "'Pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Making Masks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:09:39 CDT Hi. I haven't done this for a program or anything, but on my own time (I have friends who used to make and sell masks as a hobby). Anyway, they used this stuff that was like fabric (cheesecloth like) that had plaster powder impregnated into it. All you did was cut the cloth (it came in small rolls) up into pieces of different shapes and sizes. Then, working in partners to do each other, cover the person's face with a tissue, and then start wetting pieces of the plaster-fabric and laying them down on the face, avoiding brething holes and eyes. For the life of me, I can't remember what the stuff was called but they used to purchase it at the local art supply store. It really was a lot of fun, and there was something very soothing about the cool plaster on your face. Because the plaster was already on the fabric, the mess was really minimal too.
So, maybe someone on the list can give you the name of the stuff, or try a local art supply store, or maybe craft store? Alison ******************************************************************************* Alison Creech Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada ak454@chebucto.ns.ca ******************************************************************************* On Mon, 8 May 2000, Joann Giese wrote: Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:09:10 CDT From: Joann Giese <jgiese@stdl.org> Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org To: "'Pubyac@prairienet.org'" <Pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Making Masks I am planning a craft for 1st grade and up involving making self-masks. Has anyone had any experience with this? What compound did you use? I'd like to avoid papier-mache: I'd like something nontoxic as well. I also do not want do just decorate cardboard, but actually form the mask to fit the participant's face if possible. This could take place over 2-3 days (workshop style) so there is drying time. Any suggestions welcome, and Thanks In Advance! Jo Giese jgiese@stdl.org <mailto:jgiese@stdl.org> or fax: (847)923-3428 Schaumburg Township District Library Youth Programs 130 S. Roselle Road Schaumburg, IL 60193 ------------------------------ From: "dlh" <dlh@greennet.net> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Making Masks Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:11:09 CDT Dear Joann, You can make face masks out of strips of casting material, just cut the strips and place in a small bowl of water. Place the strips over the face overlapping the pieces. Make sure to lubricate the face first with Vaseline. Enjoy, Deb ------------------------------ From: carmel <carmel@ulysses.sebridge.org> To: "Ruhama J. Kordatzky" <rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us> Subject: RE: Graphic novels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:12:43 CDT I have both Maus and Maus II. The local high school does a unit on the Holocaust and they even have an elective course in the Holocaust, so these two are very popular here. After the kids read them we frequently get the parents wanting to read them too. Marilyn Schlansky. Reed Memorial Library, Carmel, NY On Mon, 8 May 2000, Ruhama J. Kordatzky wrote: > Hi all-- > I haven't seen anyone discuss Maus yet--how well does that do in libraries? > I'm in a pretty conservative community, but would like to try a few > graphic novels for my YAs. I thought Maus might be a good place to start. > > Thanks! > > :) ruhama > Ruhama Kordatzky > Youth Services Librarian > Burlington Public Library > Burlington, WI > rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us > > ------------------------------ From: Bucalosj@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Programming ideas for LC Bicentennial MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:14:19 CDT Dear Colleagues, I was wondering what others were doing as far as children's activities for the Library of Congress/US post Office Commemorative Stamp Ceremony. I will post a hit. Thank you in advance. Stephanie Bucalo John Jermain Memorial Library Sag Harbor, NY ------------------------------ From: "Sandy Hartsel" <hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Juvenile Videos Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:15:43 CDT Hello, =20 Where do you shelve juvenile non-fiction videos? Do you shelve them = with the juvenile non-fiction books or keep them in a separate area? Do you have age limits for checking out videos? At the present time = a patron of our library has to be over age 18 or have a note from a = parent to check out a video, even children's videos. (They can't check = out R rated videos, even with a note from a parent). =20 Are you buying R rated movies or just family movies? Do you purchase new releases and allow them to circulate right away? =
Thanks for any info you can give me. Sandy hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us ------------------------------ From: "Dawn Longo" <dlongo@suffolk.lib.ny.us> To: "List Serve" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: stumper- sunlight Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:17:00 CDT I have a stumper for you. A co-worker is looking for a book he read = about 10-15 years ago (he thinks) about a child who lives in a place = where the do not have sunlight but once every ten years (not sure of = time span) for a short lenght of time, maybe a matter of minutes. One = child is picked on and locked in a closet when the big sunlight party = happens and misses the sunlight, this in-turn ruins his/her life. He = believes it is for a middle school child. It's not much to go on I = know. Any help would be great- TIA
Dawn Longo School Media Specialist ------------------------------ From: Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Stumper -- Girl and bear Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:18:23 CDT Hi all -- Here's one to stretch the collective mind. The patron is about 70 years old and remembers this scene from a picture book: A bear is at the top of a stairs and a girl is at the bottom. The bear comes down the stairs "bumpity, bumpity, bumpity, boom!" (quote from patron) Looking forward to the answer. Sally Jeanne Kappler Reference Librarian Curtis Memorial Library Brunswick ME 04011 ------------------------------ From: "Ginny McKee" <ginny1222@hotmail.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Tap Tap Stumper solved! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:19:55 CDT I have heard from two people with a source for the book - out of print web sites. I have printed off the information and it will go to the teacher this morning. The two web sites are www.bibliofind.com and www.alibris.com.
Ginny McKee Children's Services South Brunswick [NJ] Public Library gmckee@lmxac.org ginny1222@hotmail.com
________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: klchild@mail.win.org (KL Children's) To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Stumper...boy, dog and imaginative play Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:21:11 CDT Hi all....I sent this stumper a week ago, but never saw it in pubyac, so I'm trying again.(guess it's floating around in Cyberspace). A patron remembers a story he thinks he would have read around 1977. This is probably a picture book. What he remembers is that a little boy puts on a hat or hats and in his imagination he becomes different occupations such as an astronaut, fireman, etc. He is always accompanied by his dog in these adventures. The patron thinks either the boy or dog is named Max, but he is not sure of that. The patron has been searching for this for quite awhile and would appreciate it if anyone can come up with a title. Thanks in advance for your help!! Please respond to me at pmolina@mail.win.org. Thanks again. Patsy Molina ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 135 ************************ |
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