From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:01:08 CDT

Subject: PUBYAC digest 139

PUBYAC Digest 139

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) RE: Need advice re: censorship

by Andrew Finkbeiner <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>

2) Re: need policy information, stumpers, and book recommendations

by holnb <holnb@lakeland.lib.mi.us>

3) mystery program at the library

by Ellen Snoeyenbos <ellens@ocln.org>

4) Re: Graphic novels

by HFL_LISA@stls.org

5) Author visits to public libraries

by "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>

6) Re: counting minutes--thank you

by jill heffner <jillh1018@yahoo.com>

7) Re: "big books" for lapsit storytimes

by Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>

8) RE: Toddler Stickers

by Michele Brannigan <GBrannig@ci.carrollton.tx.us>

9) RE: Unattended Youth Policy

by Michele Brannigan <GBrannig@ci.carrollton.tx.us>

10) Michael Cart's Top 100

by "Miriam Neiman" <Neiman@glasct.org>

11) MLS Children's Lit Course Ideas (Long)

by "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>

12) Re: Toddler Stickers

by "Sarah Oneal" <soneal@slco.lib.ut.us>

13) Library Olympics

by Lisa Loftin <mt_lisa@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>

14) RE: Need Advice re: censorship!

by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

15) evaluation criteria for non-book media

by "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>

16) Large Print Books(Children's Books)

by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

17) Re: Fingerplay for children with cancer

by " Kathy Reid or Arnie Naiman " <ragged@interlog.com>

18) Re:Picture Books for Older Children

by "Denise I. Matulka" <dimatulka@alltel.net>

19) Stumper Still Unsolved

by Carol Chatfield <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>

20) Stumper

by "Jenifer Wagner" <jwagner@dakota.lib.mn.us>

21) STUMPER: Book Hunt Chant

by Van Vranken Gail <GVanvranken@TORRNET.COM>

22) Stumper...Thanks for responses

by klchild@mail.win.org (KL Children's)

23) Stumper solved: Falcon's sacrifice

by Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>

24) saki stumper

by Sally Leahey <sleahey@mcarthur.lib.me.us>

25) Updates to "Booklists for YA" web site

by Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>

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From: Andrew Finkbeiner <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Need advice re: censorship

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:34:53 CDT

Jennifer,

I am not familiar with the book in question, but have some advice,

none-the-less. Whenever a customer asks me to have something moved from

juvenile to adult, the first thing I look at is "audience." If the intended

audience of the work is anyone 14 yrs. old or younger, it belongs in the

juvenile collection. 15 yrs. old or older, it belongs in the adult

collection. Content has nothing to do with it. After a customer hears this

explanation, the issue may or may not move to content-based questions. This

is when your intellectual freedom argument kicks in.

We have had several cases where we really did "miss it," and a work in

question was relocated to the adult collection. Also, there are times when

works come in a children's book format, but the intended audience is adult.

These cases can be really tricky. The best boarderline case I can give you

is Berke Breathed's Red Ranger Came Calling, which we placed in the adult

collection. On the other hand, we have a copy of Gary Larson's There's a

Hair in My Dirt in the juvenile collection. Both are picturebooks. Both

have a quirky cerebral flair and demand that the reader have a fair amount

of life experience in order to get the joke. We believed the Breathed book

would appeal mainly to an adult sensibility, while we believed older

children would really get a kick out of the Larson book.

If "And Then...A History of the World" is written for children (Stewart Ross

is a prolific children's author, right?), keep it in the children's

collection and don't look back. If it's written for adults but you've

discovered a need for it in the children's area, let your professional

judgement be your guide and stand your ground.

Andrew Finkbeiner

Rockford (IL) Public Library

andrew@rockford.lib.il.us

Visit our website at http://www.rpl.rockford.org

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From: holnb <holnb@lakeland.lib.mi.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: need policy information, stumpers, and book recommendations

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I do the pulling of books for teachers and our iron clad rule is that we need

AT LEAST a one week notice. We also warn teachers that all requests are subject

to availability of books. ( We serve 5 school disctricts!). Check out and

renewal is the same as for anyone else: three check out and 1 renewal for a

total of six weeks. We do not limit the number of books. Usually they want

15-20. I think the most I've ever pulled for any one teacher at one time is 50

or so but that's rare.

Nancy B. at Herrick DL

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From: Ellen Snoeyenbos <ellens@ocln.org>

To: PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children

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Subject: mystery program at the library

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In response to someone's question about a library-related mystery script

for a YA mystery night, here is my two cents worth tip: I used a 1994

ALA graphics program called, "Solve the Mystery: Read" which included

promotional materials and a library-setting script created by some

really talented librarians in Washington state or Oregon. McDonalds was

the underwriter so the promotional stuff had their logo but the whole

package was quite good. ALA Graphics phone #: 1-800-5452433 press 7.

Good luck! Ellen Snoeyenbos ellens@ocln.org

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org

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Subject: Re: Graphic novels

Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:34:54 CDT

The BONE books by SMITH are really wonderful with beautiful graphics. They do not contain any objectionable content in terms of nudity etc. They are suitablefor younger children-we have 10 year old who have read all of them-but

still are creative enough for older teens.

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From: "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>

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Subject: Author visits to public libraries

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When we are having a program at the library that our manager thinks teens

would be interested in, she talks to the school librarians and teachers and

suggests they offer extra credit to the stuudents if they attend. This could

work for author visits. Linda Allen: Sno-Isle Library System.

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From: jill heffner <jillh1018@yahoo.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: counting minutes--thank you

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:22:13 CDT

Sorry that I am late responding to you, but now I feel

the spirit:-)

We count minutes such as you will be

doing--children mark off every 15 minutes they read on

a graph-type page; every three hours earns them a

"silly prize".

I also include 4 pages (one sheet, front and back)

for titles and authors. The first ten books (whatever

the length) earns them a coupon for a free ice cream

cone from McDonalds. This enables me to sort of see

what they're reading:-)

=====

Jill Heffner

Youth Services

Driftwood Public Library

801 SW Hwy 101

Lincoln City, Oregon 97367

541 996 2277 Fax: 541 996 1262

jillh1018@yahoo.com

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From: Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>

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Subject: Re: "big books" for lapsit storytimes

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:35:31 CDT

On Sat, 13 May 2000, Mary Luckner wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded to my query in March about "big books" to

> use in storytime for children under 2. Apparently there are very few

> available...

I consulted with my mother, a school administrator and early childhood

educator for thirty years. Here's her response:

>Maggi, Nearly all publishers who produce books for teachers to use

>in the classroom make big books. Catalogs are available from

>publishers. I have my own collection stashed in the computer room

>closet. Scholastic is a big book maker and has many titles. Bradbury

>Press, MacMillan, etc. carry big books. The value of big books is

>that all the children in a group can see the pictures and text at

>the same time. Whole group reading lessons such as "shared reading"

>are much easier. Even one at a time laying the book on the floor

>makes a valuable tool for learning. The best big books have large

>print as well as large pictures. That way teachers can run their

>finger under the words and children can actually focus on the print

>as well as the picture. Let me know what else you need to know.

You can get catalogs at:

Scholastic -- http://teacher.scholastic.com/products/requestcatalog.asp

Macmillan -- http://www.panmacmillan.com/Register/Bsellerscat.asp

(I couldn't find a web site for Bradbury.)

-Maggi Rohde

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From: Michele Brannigan <GBrannig@ci.carrollton.tx.us>

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I have not ordered from this company, but they might have what you are

looking for: Sherman Specialty Company (www.ShermanSpecialty.com)

1-800-645-6513. We have bought from U. S. Toys (or Constructive

Playthings). I don't have an e-mail address or phone number for them. They

will have labels.

Michele Brannigan

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From: Sue Jones [mailto:sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us]

Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:31 PM

To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'

Subject: Toddler Stickers

Hello out there,

Does anyone have a favorite source for some really cute Toddler stickers?

We have tried HighSmith, Library Store, Brodart and Demco. Demco shows a

little boy dragging a blanket, but the face looks a little wierd.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.....

Sue Jones

Pleasanton Public Library

Pleasanton, CA

(925) 931-3400 x 23

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From: Michele Brannigan <GBrannig@ci.carrollton.tx.us>

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Normally, the librarian in charge that day would stay with the youth, plus

another person. It should be the other librarian if there is one.

Otherwise, a staff member. The librarian is given "discretionary time."

The staff member is paid the normal hourly rate. We not only have to wait

the hour until calling the police, we have to wait the 30 minutes before

they arrive, then talk to the police and fill out an incident report. The

reaction to my resistance to this policy is that I am a supervisor and a

professional librarian and this is a part of my job. I understand that it

will happen. My objection is that I have to wait an hour before calling the

police. The management here say that the police have told them to wait the

hour before calling. I find that hard to believe. This is not a family

calling in about a runaway child - this is an abandoned child.

Michele Brannigan

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From: Vicky Smith [mailto:vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us]

Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:25 PM

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Unattended Youth Policy

Michelle, I would love to know from you, and others who have similar

policies, how the staff who must stay are compensated for the

enormous inconvenience. For that matter, how can you count on two

people to have an extra hour after the library closes to hang around?

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From: "Miriam Neiman" <Neiman@glasct.org>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: Michael Cart's Top 100

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>From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>

>To: pubyac@prairienet.org

>Subject: Re: Bridge to YA authors

>

>What is Michael Cart's Top 100, and where can I get a copy of it? Thanks in

>advance!

>Chuck Schacht, Romeo District Library, Romeo, MI.

Sorry, Chuck. I was going from memory (always a dangerous thing!). The information I was referring to was the BER (Bureau of Education and Research) resource handbook from Michael's "What's New in Young Adult Literature (Grades 6-12) 2000".

If you don't have a copy, they have a website at http://www.ber.org . I suspect it can be ordered from there. I hope so, anyway. It's a wonderful resource!

Miriam

The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.

Miriam Neiman

YA/Reference Librarian/Web Page Mistress

Welles-Turner Memorial Library

Glastonbury, CT

http://www.wtmlib.com

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From: "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: MLS Children's Lit Course Ideas (Long)

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Thanks to everybody who sent Ideas for things they wish would be taught in

children's lit classes. Some people asked for a summary of the ideas, so

here it is. Sorry It's taken so long; I'm now done teaching the class and

it was a lot of fun

Amy Stultz:

What kinds of books work best as read alouds for pre-schoolers and why.

Short, funny or coceptual books work best, but one of my aides still sneaks

long winded "classics" in sometimes. They flop, the children go bananas,

and the teachers mutter about our quality. Part of the problem is just my

aide, but another big ole part is that she doesn't understand what books

work well. I also spend a lot of time training on how to read

entertainingly.

Charlotte Lesser:

make sure you cover the concept of "biblio-therapy" - I can remember

feeling overwhelmed right out of library school when parents of young

children were looking for serious books to cover serious topics. So often

we get caught up in the "fun stuff" that we forget parents who are dealing

with serious issues.

The other thing that I wish had been covered more is the research that

gives us the "ammo" to defend programming for very young children. Some

directors are more informed than others and sometimes staff has to justify

why doing a lapsit program is important.

Grace Ruth:

I can't remember back to my library school children's lit

class, but based on giving presentations here and working often of

recommended lists of books for young children I would recommend including

some of the following:

1. Discussing trends... how board books came to be accepted in

libraries, and now how many publishers are putting picture books into board

book format that have too much text, lose the appeal of the original by

being so much smaller in size, etc. because board books have sold well.

What ages are the real intended audience for board books. Kathleen Horning

had a good article on this subject in Horn Book (I think).

2. Discussing Mother Goose and poetry books. The importance of rhyme

and the sound of words.

3. Discussing all areas of the collection. I had a recent experience in

editing a book list for preschoolers where the committee of children's

librarians submitted only picture books for the list.

Louise Capizzo:

I often wished in Library School that there were more hands-on

activities. For example, when talking about programs for different

preschool ages, be specific and give examples. For instance, with lapsit

programs being in demand, it would have been so useful to have a

demonstration so librarians could have a model to replicate.

Book Selection. It would have been terrific to have the professor have

copies from several book review magazines of a book review. Have the class

read it as a whole. Then, actually read the book being reviewed as see if

the class agreed with the review or not. Understanding book reviews is an

art. Many librarians don't have time to learn how to read reviews. It is

easier, and safer, to purchase books that are on lists.

Survey's

How to do a community survey and how to interpret the results.

Miscellanious

What kinds of information is important to include in monthly reports.

Roben C:

Create a booktalk on a topic and present it to the class (I chose

chocolate as my theme...) Create a 50 book bibliography of books that would

be the first 50 you would purchase if you were starting a library. We had

to write abstracts for 10 of them.

We spent some time on storytelling and had to tell a story for the

class.

We wrote reviews of non-fiction books.

We toured her school library and saw the resources and facilities she

had available.

Melissa Gibson:

I'm presently winding up my first course teaching children's

services in public libraries. If you'd like to take a peek, it's on

Lexington Community College's site at http://www.uky.edu/LCC/LB143

Many of my students have made positive comments about what we've covered in

class this semester, and they are working librarians.

Paula Lefkowitz:

One of the most useful things I learned - and one that most of my

new staff members evidently did not learn - was how to structure a story

hour for children of various ages, including what kinds of materials are

appropriate.

I think I spend more time with new hires on this than on anything else.

Also, many preschoolers are interested and ready for nonfiction, and

none of my new hires have known anything about nonfiction for preschoolers.

They also need to know what materials to use for 3's, for example, who are

already learning how to read.

I guess the whole issue is age-appropriateness. Some of this is

experience but a lot can be taught.

Anne Raymer:

Compare Children's Catalog and the Elementary School Library Collection for

usefulness.

Organize your classes by subject area: Traditional Literature,

Booktalking and Book Reviewing, Realistic Fiction and Intellectual Freedom,

Information Books and Non-Print Media, Fantasy and Science Fiction,

Caldecott Award Books, Newbery Award Books, Mass Market Series Books,

Picture Books (the importance of illustration), Poetry and Magazines for

Children,Biography and Historical Fiction, and Young Adult Literature.

Cover the major national awards.

Make sure that you include information on multicultural literature and

today's emphasis on internationalism.

Teach from Zena Sutherland's CHILDREN AND BOOKS. Use as a personal

reference and for supplemental material Huck's CHILDREN'S LITERATURE IN THE

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

Assign several titles for the whole class to read as examples of a

genre; for example, "The Giver" as a science fiction story. To prepare,

listen to the audiobook versions of the stories assigned. This assures you

of having a visual memory.

Divide the class into groups of 3 or 4 for development of a group

project.

One or two classes near the end of the course are then devoted to group

presentations. I asked my classes to choose an author, a different one for

each group. An illustrator could also be chosen. Then, each member of the

group creates a unique portion of the report; for example, biographical

detail, booktalks, a diorama or some other project.

When you prepare, just take one class at a time!

Sarah Stone:

I found in library school that my professors were very good at

covering the books but we didn't get much discussion of music and videos for

kids. Who are the well-regarded artists, things like that.

Anita Haller:

I wish when I had children's lit that not only prize winners were

considered but books that the children themselves thought werre great

also nonfiction books for the littlest ones. Parents or teachers are

always comeing to the library and requesting books explaining divorce,

guns, death, good manners. not hitting, biting or spitting etc. Parents and

teachers are always searching for books to support their teaching agenda and

lists ofnonfiction books for thelittlest ones are hard to come by.

Thanks again for your suggestions. Since my class only covered ages 0-6 I

didn't do all these things, but we covered many of them, and I wish we had

had time for more!

Rebecca

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San Diego Public Library

Branch Libraries Division

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From: "Sarah Oneal" <soneal@slco.lib.ut.us>

To: <sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>, <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Toddler Stickers

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The cutest stickers are from Mrs. Grossman's company. They are expensive but they are worth it because you can even use them to make crafts! They will open accounts and take PO's. One web site is

http://www.simplystickers.com/Grossmans/grossmans.htm

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From: Lisa Loftin <mt_lisa@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Library Olympics

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Is anybody looking at some type of Library Olympics later this summer?

(I know we can't call it that due to copyrights.) I can see some trivia

contest about the athletes, since we don't seem to be paying much

attention to them in the US. And possibly some type of research games.

You could do some actual physical games (50 Meter Book Truck Dash?) but

I'm more interested in something a little more learning-oriented for

young teens. I'll gladly post a list of replys or ideas we generate

in-house.

Lisa Loftin, Miami Township

Dayton/Montgomery County Public Library

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Need Advice re: censorship!

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Call Beverley Becker of ALA's Office for Intellectual Freedom at

800-545-2433, ext. 4221. She can help you figure out what to do next, help

you put together a defense against the challenge, and more. Alternatively,

you can email her at bbecker@ala.org for assistance.

And check out OIF's webpage at

http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/challengehearing.html -- there are steps there

on what to do when faced with a challenge, and links to more information.

Good luck!

Andrea Johnson

Cook Memorial Public Library

ajohnson@cooklib.org

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Jennifer Needham [SMTP:jneedham@haddampl.libct.org]

> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:29 PM

> To: pubyac@prairienet.org

> Subject: Need Advice re: censorship!

>

> I really need some advice/suggestion/opinions, and I would also like to

> compile some responses to bolster my case (if you disagree with me, feel

> free to say so!) Please let me know what you think! Please reply

> directly to me.

>

> Thanks so much,

>

> Jennifer Needham

> Brainerd Memorial Library

> Haddam, CT

>

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From: "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: evaluation criteria for non-book media

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Thank you to those who responded to my request for source of evaluation

criteria of non book media.

I didn't get many reponses. It seems there just hasn't been much published

on how to evaluate these items (except web pages- theres tons on that.)

here are the responses i recieved for those interested:

Kristen Martindale:

I evaluate non-book media for School Library Journal, and other than their

guidelines, I am not aware

of any published guidelines.

They have separate guidelines for AV and CD-ROM/Online reference materials.

I'm sure they'd be

willing to send you a copy if you're interested: AV editor is Phyllis Levy

Mandel at

pmandell@slj.cahners.com and Technology guidelines come from Walter Minkel

at

WMinkel@cahners.com

Ian McKinney:

You might want to take a look at "Failure to Connect: How Computers

Affect

Our Children's Minds--for Better and Worse" by Jane M. Healy. My

recollection is that there are some tips for evaluating software, but

the

book is also an interesting evaluation of the trend of using computers

with

young children.

Julie Rines:

Children's Software Revue magazine prints out their evaluation

criterea every once in a while both for software and Internet sites.

Sorry I don't know when the edition was printed but I would assume it is

posted on their web site as well: www.childrenssoftware.com

If anyone knows of anythng else, particularly on audio or video, I would

apprecitate it.

thanks

rebecca

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San Diego Public Library

Branch Libraries Division

rsps@hotmail.com

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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

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Subject: Large Print Books(Children's Books)

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:38:04 CDT

Library Reproduction Service

14214 S. Figueroa St.

Los Angeles, CA 90061

1-800-255-5002

www.lrs-largeprint.com

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From: " Kathy Reid or Arnie Naiman " <ragged@interlog.com>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Fingerplay for children with cancer

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Here's an old rhyme with wishes that might work....

Wash the dishes , wipe the dishes,

Ring the bell for tea.

Three good wishes,

Three good kisses,

I will give to thee.

Kathy

Merriweather Records

109 Crawford Rose Dr.,

Aurora, Ontario L4G 4S1 Canada

http://www.interlog.com/~ragged

--She is looking for a fingerplay with a "wishes"

>or "hope chest" theme. It has to do with giving hope to child cancer

>patients. If anyone has any ideas, I would greatly appreciate them. We

>could even try to modify something close.

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From: "Denise I. Matulka" <dimatulka@alltel.net>

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Subject: Re:Picture Books for Older Children

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I would also like to share the title I developed on the same topic.

PICTURE BOOKS: PICTURE BOOKS FOR YOUNG ADULTS

http://info.greenwood.com/books/0313301/0313301824.html

My selections are very disctinctive from "Worth a Thousand Words" by

Ammon/Sherman. My title was HIGHLY RECOMMENDED by "School Library

Journal" and "Reference Books Bulletin."

I think both my book and the Ammon/Sherman book are crucial for any

library that prides its children's referece collection.

Denise I. Matulka

dimatulka@alltel.net

Picturing Books: A Web Site About Picture Books

http://www.geocities.com/dimatulka

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From: Carol Chatfield <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Stumper Still Unsolved

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:58:41 CDT

Thanks to Carol Smith, Jane Whiteside, and Helen Beavin for their

suggestions of a book title where a girl ages very slowly.

My patron says it is not Girl with the Silver Eyes by Roberts nor Anna

to the Infinite Power, although she was happy to be reminded of both

titles.

We're still looking, in case anyone else has a guess.

Thanks.

Carol Chatfield Ilsley Public Library Middlebury, VT 05753

cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu

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From: "Jenifer Wagner" <jwagner@dakota.lib.mn.us>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: Stumper

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Does anyone recognize this line from a picturebook? A patron says her

children borrowed the book within the last two years and loved it, though

they don't know the name of it. Thanks.

"Strawberry shortcake, huckleberry pie, I'm gonna punch you in the eye" is

the line the children remember from the text.

Jenifer Wagner, Librarian II

Dakota County Library, Heritage

20085 Heritage Drive

Lakeville, MN 55044

Phone: (651) 365-3219

e-mail: jwagner@dakota.lib.mn.us

fax: (651) 365-3209

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From: Van Vranken Gail <GVanvranken@TORRNET.COM>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: STUMPER: Book Hunt Chant

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:12:19 CDT

Before I go and reinvent the wheel, I thought I'd check with the collective

brain.

Does anyone know of or written themselves a chant "I'm going on a book

hunt..." using the idea/beat of "I'm going on a bear hunt..."? I'd like to

use it for my summer reading class visits.

Thanks in advance.

Gail Van Vranken

Torrance Public Library

(310) 323-9687

gvanvranken@torrnet.com

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From: klchild@mail.win.org (KL Children's)

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Stumper...Thanks for responses

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:18:54 CDT

Hi all.....Thanks to everyone who has responded to my stumper about the boy

who puts on hats and becomes different occupations! Many of you suggested

Martin's Hats by Joan Blos but that is not the story (sure sounded like it

though). One person suggested Ho for a Hat by William Jay Smith which I told

the patron about and he came to pick up from our reserve-hold shelf..I

haven't heard back from him so I'm not sure. The copy of Ho for a Hat that

we have in our library is originally a 1964 C but was reprinted with new

illustrations by Lynn Munsinger in 1989. That story sounds and looks right

but he might need to see the original illustrated version to really

recognize it.

Anyway thanks again for all your help! Patsy

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From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>

To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org

Subject: Stumper solved: Falcon's sacrifice

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:25:32 CDT

Thanks for the quick replies!

The story about the hawk who keeps dashing the cup away from the king (and

gets killed for it) can be found in THE CHILD'S BOOK OF VIRTUES and THE

BOOK OF VIRTUES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE as "The King and His Hawk" retold by James

Baldwin.

It's funny what resonates with people - I have always hated that story...

Thanks again -

Jan Wall

Youth Services Librarian

Latah County Library District

110 South Jefferson Street

Moscow ID 83843

fax: 208-882-5098

janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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From: Sally Leahey <sleahey@mcarthur.lib.me.us>

To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org

Subject: saki stumper

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:32:10 CDT

Hi Selma--I heard the same NPR story and was interested because I have a

friend, Toshi Arasaki, in Okinawa. I emailed him for more info, and here's

what he sent:

>I ckecked my Okinawa Encyclopedia about the firefly song. According to which

>, it is an old song children in Shuri, capital of Okinawa during the Ryukyu

>Kingdom, sang as they were catching fireflies. It goes:

>

>Jinjin Jinjin

>Sakayanu Miji Kwaite

>Uritiryo, Jinjin

>Sagairyo, Jinjin

>

>(translation)

>Firefies, Fireflies

>Drink the water in the sake factory

>And come down, come down, fireflies

>

>Shuri was and still is known for making saki (sake in Japanese). I suppose c

>hildren sang this song, hoping that fireflies would fly to a saki factory, d

>ring saki there, and get drunk. So, they can easily catch the fireflies. Oki

>nawan saki is better known as Awamori and it is stronger than Japanese sake.

Hope this helps!

Sally Leahey

McArthur Library

Biddeford, Maine

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From: Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>

To: YALSA-BK <yalsa-bk@ala.org>, PUBYAC List <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: Updates to "Booklists for YA" web site

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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:39:09 CDT

(Crossposted to YALSA-BK and PUBYAC)

This is just a note to let you know that 44 new booklists have been added

to the "Booklists for Young Adults on the Web" site. Thanks to all of the

librarians and other contributors for compiling these lists and making

them available for others!

http://www.seemore.mi.org/booklists/

-Maggi Rohde, University of Michigan graduate

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