From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:01:09 CDT

Subject: PUBYAC digest 162

PUBYAC Digest 162

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Re: Internet Censorship

by "Anastasia Suen" <acs56@flash.net>

2) RE: What to do with kids?

by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

3) *thanks, YA Activity Room Name

by Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>

4) Teen Craft Ideas...

by Barb Scott <scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us>

5) Illuminated Blackboards

by Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>

6) YA magazines

by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>

7) Muy Jr.

by Bonnie Warren <bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us>

8) Re: Storytime for 1-3 graders

by "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>

9) Re: Puppet troupes

by Jana FIne <janafine01@sprynet.com>

10) Re: Elephant crafts

by "Jeanenne Reid Robinson" <jrrchild@hotmail.com>

11) no female maniacs

by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>

12) you may have already won!

by "victoria vannucci" <vvannucci@hotmail.com>

13) RFP for Texas School Library Study

by Jeanette Larson <jlarson@tenet.edu>

14) STUMPER: A girl who refuses to take a bath

by "Denise I. Matulka" <dimatulka@alltel.net>

15) moon, stars, astronauts, aliens, rockets

by "Elaine M." <elainem9@hotmail.com>

16) Casey at the Bat video

by "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>

17) Stumper: Halloween Ghost

by "Candice Morris" <cmorris@mtlib.org>

18) summer reading and a stumper

by Ruth Shafer <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>

19) Fish in the River of Knowledge

by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>

20) RE: stumper - song

by Jonathan Betz-Zall <JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org>

21) stumper -answer A ram sam sam song

by Carrie Eldridge <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>

22) RE: stumper - song

by Theyer Hillary <HTheyer@TORRNET.COM>

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From: "Anastasia Suen" <acs56@flash.net>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Internet Censorship

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We have had a great deal of press about this in Plano, Texas.

http://www.dallasnews.com/ and the Plano Star Courier

http://www.zwire.com/news/newslist.cfm?brd=1426

Anastasia Suen

http://www.flash.net/~asuen

----- Original Message -----

From: Jen Gronbach <moonglow338@yahoo.com>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 6:56 PM

Subject: Internet Censorship

> Hi All,

>

> I am a student currently working on my MLS and I have

> been asked to write a paper discussing the concept of

> censorship. As this is a very broad topic, I think I

> am going to keep the discussion to censorship of the

> internet in a children's library. Any ideas, angels,

> or sources that would be relevant to this topic would

> be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Jen

>

> __________________________________________________

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> Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints!

> http://photos.yahoo.com

>

>

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: What to do with kids?

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:32:31 CDT

How about just setting up a craft room? You should have lots of staff on

hand to supervise, and then set up a craft table for each age group.

Preschool, primary, etc. etc. And maybe bring in some books and puppets or

puzzles for the little ones to play with when they are crafted out. Maybe

even snacks, unless that seems like too much chaos.

Good luck!

Andrea Johnson ajohnson@cooklib.org

Cook Memorial Public Library Libertyville, IL

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kathleen Saxton [SMTP:ksaxton@wepl.lib.oh.us]

> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:44 PM

> To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'

> Subject: What to do with kids?

>

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I need some suggestions from people who may have done similar programs

> to this in the past. We are having a 1 hour parenting seminar this fall

> and are wondering if anyone has offered a "babysitting story time" for

> the children while their parents attend. We know that many of our

> parents here will not be willing to find a babysitter for the length of

> the program, so we thought we'd offer a children's program at the same

> time. Our main concern is the age spread and liability issues, not to

> mention what we can do to keep them all entertained for an hour. Does

> anyone have any suggestions? Thanks so much for sharing your wisdom

> with us!

>

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From: Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: *thanks, YA Activity Room Name

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:33:50 CDT

Many thanks to Elizabeth Purdy, Cassie Wilson, Anthony Bernier, Karen

K. of Baraboo WI and Rebecca Verrill Smith for your answers on my

question about naming our YA activity room.

Quite a difference of opinion- from contests to keeping it simple.

I can see I should give this some thought and not make a hasty

decision.

I managed to set up my aquarium this morning- and am letting it

sit for a few days before adding the fish. It really looks nice.

One problem I am dealing with is that we have adults who have

routinely used the YA seating area, because it is out of the

way of the busy center of the library. I don't want to displace

them, but want to slowly make the transition of the area so that

it looks like a teen area. Traditionally, the teens walk right

past the YA area and go to the farthest area of the library where

there is not staff, in order to work.

So far, this has been a lot of fun, and I am truly looking forward

to making some changes, seeing what other libraries are doing, and

working with the young people in our community.

Thanks again for taking the time to post your suggestions...

Laura Gruninger,

Mercer County Library, Lawrence HQ

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From: Barb Scott <scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us>

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Subject: Teen Craft Ideas...

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:35:02 CDT

I am looking for great ideas for teen crafts for a workshop that I

will be presenting in a few months. I have started looking on the 'net

and have gotten some great ideas, but would like those ideas that you have

tried personally and that have worked for you.

Please respond to me off list at: barbarascott@hotmail.com, or by

mail, if sending patterns (those are needed too) to:

Barb Scott

Bucyrus Public Library

200 E. Mansfield Street

Bucyrus, OH 44820

FAX: 419-563-7437

TIA!!!

Barb Scott

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From: Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Illuminated Blackboards

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:36:36 CDT

I was thinking I might like to use an illuminated blackboard, such as

you see posted in restaurants or Record Stores (are they called that

any more?) where they post the new music coming out.

I looked in Highsmith's catalog and checked Staples and Office Max

online. I went into a local Staples and they only have the traditional

white easles/signs.

A local sign store sells two models; one an A-frame shape which doesn't

illumninate, but still gives the neon-effect with the markers, and

a 20x24" model, which does light up. The first is around $150.00,

and the second around $200.00. I'm not sure I will be able to get

our Friends group to spend this much.

I was wondering if any of you use these signs, and if you got a good

deal through a particular company. (One internet site which I found

is www.neon-das.com/Neon-Lighted_Blackboards.html.

I thought I could list upcoming programs, activities and even new

books and media on this. I'm sure I could talk my branch manager

into it, for a reasonable price.

Thanks

Laura Gruninger, Reference/YA

Mercer County Library, Lawrence HQ

Lawrenceville, NJ 08648

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From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: YA magazines

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Magazine purchase time is here, and I am trying to find more magazines for

girls that don't focus on clothes, boys or makeup - I know an impossible

task! We have New Moon, Teen Voices and Jump, as well as the traditional

girl's titles. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

Becky Tatar

Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual

Aurora Public Library

1 E. Benton Street

Aurora, IL 60505

Phone: 630/264-4100

FAX: 630/896-3209

e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us

www.aurora.lib.il.us

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From: Bonnie Warren <bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us>

To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Muy Jr.

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To whomever posted message re: Spanish language magazine Muy Jr. reply

to me and let me know details. Unable to find any info in regular

sources such as Ulrich's, internet, etc.

Thanks!

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From: "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Storytime for 1-3 graders

Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:40:34 CDT

I usually recommend folktales for reading aloud to older children - even

5th/6th. graders enjoy hearing/discussing them. There are many variations

of some of the more familiar tales, and many less familiar (particularly

Native American and Asian) that work well. A few minutes' browsing in 398's

are well worth the time!

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From: Jana FIne <janafine01@sprynet.com>

To: jodie_depatis@hotmail.com, pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Puppet troupes

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Jodie,

I am in charge of the DASCALOJA troupe.. The troupe has been going for over 30

years! (not with me, tho). To start, we send out flyers at schools to get kids

interested in it. At the first meeting, we go over schedules and conduct

rules. Then the kids read the script for the show we do silently. They

volunteer for parts - to tape and act out. Then if there is more than 1 person

who wants to be a character, they read for the part. The group votes for the

best reading. We then tape the show and practice it. IN our programs we have

added musical lip syncs - both with puppets and live action.

This summer I have 12. Normally I get between 6-10 teens - from 6th graders to

senios in high school. Some ar returning volunteers and others are new. We

practice a week ahead and perform 4 mornings a week, plus some afternoon

programs at community centers, other libraries, recreation centers, etc.

I have written about this for our state summer manual. I can send you c copy of

that as well. I love this. Every one has star quality and sometimes

personalities can get in the way. That is the only down side I have ever had.

Also the fact that you need to recognize that teens and adolescents will be

sometimes absentminded and slow on the uptake, but then they catch on and are

great.

Live performance, unless small, is an interesting drama piece, but doesn't serve

the audience, cause some people have small voices. That's why we tape. Also,

teens get to caught up in using a microphone and will compete to hold it.

Another reason to tape.

The best part are the musical numbers. This week, we are doing Diana Ross and

Supremes song "You keep me hangin on" with a spider and bee in a web, and insect

backup singers. The kids have done some really memorable songs in years past,

including dressing up like old women and syncing SPice Girls 'If you wanna be my

lover" as the SPice grandmas; dressing up as nerds and lip syning and dancing to

N'Sync "tearin up my heart" as a group called "out of sync" That is perhaps the

most fun. The teens get into choreographing and putting a new spin on an old

song.

I hope this helps. Let me know.

Jana Fine

Clearwater Public Library

Florida

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From: "Jeanenne Reid Robinson" <jrrchild@hotmail.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Elephant crafts

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>I have seen a cute elephant hand puppet somewhere. A small piece of heavy

>paper was cut in the shape of an elephant's front and it had goggly eyes.

>There was a hole cut in the middle that allowed the child's index finger to

>be act as a trunk. This particular hand puppet had gray felt glued to it,

>but I'm sure you could have the children use crayons.

Hope this helps,

Jeanenne Robinson

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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: no female maniacs

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A few weeks ago I posted a message here asking for suggestions of

fiction about contemporary female protagonists who might be worthy of

being mentioned in the same breath with Maniac McGee ie semi-legendary

in terms of reputed abilities but otherwise just great kids. I thought

it would be fine to have a couple of such books to booktalk and

demonstrate that girls can be awesome too The response - ZILCH.

NOBODY. Pretty interesting and sad that there seems to be such a dirth

of active, larger than life girl protagonists, is it not so? Obviously

you wouldn't want an author to sit down and slavishly imitate Spinelli

with very little changed but the gender; still... seems as though there

is a golden opportunity for somebody to create a worthy companion or two

for the rightfully esteemed Mr. McGee. Doesn't seem right that a boy

who is so fond of good company should be lonely.

Chuck Schacht

Romeo District Library

Romeo, MI.

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From: "victoria vannucci" <vvannucci@hotmail.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: you may have already won!

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OK, now that I've got your attention....

Hello Pubyac.

We are going to be going through a future renovation. Not only will the

existing building be renovated, but an additional building has been

purchased.

I am the Young Adult Librarian at my institution, and of course I would like

the new building to be turned over to the YA's of the community, since the

kids of the community really need a place to hang out. It used to be a rec

center, so it has a basketball court and other recreational space. Now, of

course I don't expect the whole building to be a teen space. The rest of it

could be rented out to other organizations or businesses.

My question is, have any libraries out there been in similar situations, or

do any of you know of libraries that have their young adult area in a

totally separate building?

Additionally, I need to know how large these libraries are, and how well the

arrangement has worked.

Please reply to my email address, and not to the list.

vvannucc@chuhpl.lib.oh.us

Thanks!

Victoria Vannucci

YA Librarian

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From: Jeanette Larson <jlarson@tenet.edu>

To: Pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: RFP for Texas School Library Study

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:47:06 CDT

Please feel free to forward this information on to organizations and

individuals who might be interested in submitting a proposal.

The Texas State Library and Archives Commission is soliciting interested

organizations to submit proposals for a research project to study the

effect

of activities in school library media centers on student achievement.

To view the Request for Proposal (RFP), please visit the Texas

Marketplace

web site at:

http://www.marketplace.state.tx.us/

Interested parties should follow the path:

State Government

Agency: Library and Archives Commission (306)

Find

The RFP is listed as: TITLE: Analytical Study of Library Media

Centers.

Thank you.

Christine McNew

Youth Services Consultant

Texas State Library and Archives Commission

1201 Brazos

Austin, Texas 78711-2927

cmcnew@tsl.state.tx.us

512-463-6623

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From: "Denise I. Matulka" <dimatulka@alltel.net>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: STUMPER: A girl who refuses to take a bath

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I am searching for a picture book from the early to mid 1970s (I think).

It is about a girl who will not take a bath. At one point in the story

her mother plants radish seeds on her because she is so dirty.

IT IS NOT "The Raggly Scraggly No-Soap No-Scrub Girl" by David Francis

Birchman. Illustrated by Guy Porfirio.

I have already look in several editions of A to Zoo and Freeman's "More

Books Kids Will Sit Still For."

Denise I. Matulka

dimatulka@alltel.net

Picturing Books: A Web Site About Picture Books

http://www.geocities.com/dimatulka

Author of "Picture This: Picture Books for Young Adults"

http://info.greenwood.com/books/0313301/0313301824.html

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From: "Elaine M." <elainem9@hotmail.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: moon, stars, astronauts, aliens, rockets

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I'm looking for excellent stories that really work for ages 3 through 6

about the moon, stars, astronauts, rocket, or aliens. I have found many

books about space, but not too many that really "catch" me. Ones that rhyme

are especially good!

Any/all input would be appreciated. I will post responses if there is

interest.

Please respond to elainem@worldnet.att.net

Thanks in advance to this always helpful group!

Elaine

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From: "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>

To: "Pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Casey at the Bat video

Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:56:16 CDT

Hello.

I'm trying to locate the Disney version of the poem Casey at the Bat =

on video. I'm pretty sure it's one of a few stories on this video, but =

I'm not having much luck finding the title of this video. Anyone in =

Pubyacland know?

Thanks.

Cathy Chesher

Adrian Public Library

143 E. Maumee St., Adrian, Michigan 49221

phone 517-265-2265

fax 517-265-8847

cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us

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From: "Candice Morris" <cmorris@mtlib.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Stumper: Halloween Ghost

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A ghost in a family house decides for Halloween that he should behave like a proper ghost. He tries scaring the family and they ignore him.

I have tried our local and regional OPAC, A to Zoo and amazon.com. Does this children's story sound familiar to anyone?

Thanks,

Candice Morris cmorris@mtlib.org

Lewis & Clark Library

120 S. Last Chance Gulch Helena, MT 59601

Phone 406 447-1690 x15 Fax 406 447-1687

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From: Ruth Shafer <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: summer reading and a stumper

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Hi Folks,

I am wondering if any of you fellow youth services librarians have a

summer reading program designed especially for 4,5,6th graders, or if you

have a general all ages program that appeals as much to that age group as

the younger readers?

STUMPER

We are looking for a book from the 70's or 80's that may or may not be

by Seuss...but is in that fashion....

We think the first line is "We love the things that summer brings".

I have looked in poetry indexes thinking it might be an illustrated poem,

but to no avail.

Thanks so much for both questions.

Ruth Shafer

Vancouver, Washington

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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>

Subject: Fish in the River of Knowledge

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"Intellectual Freedom is the right of every individual to both seek and receive information from all points of view without restriction. It provides for free access to all expressions of ideas through which any and all sides of a question, cause or movement may be explored."-- Intellectual Freedom and Censorship Q & A http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/intellectualfreedomandcensorship.html

On September 23 through September 30, 2000, celebrate Banned Books Week: Fish in the River of Knowledge.

Banned Books Week teaches the importance of our First Amendment rights and the power of literature and will draw attention to the danger that exists when restraints are imposed on the availability of information in a free society.

This year's graphics and other information on Banned Books Week 2000 can be found at

Why Banned Books Week?

http://www.ala.org/bbooks/index.html

Challenged and Banned Books

http://www.ala.org/bbooks/challeng.html

Resource Guide

http://www.ala.org/bbooks/resource.html

For more information, please contact Nanette Perez at the Office

for Intellectual Freedom (1-800-545-2433, ext. 4223, or

oif@ala.org).

_________________________

Don Wood

American Library Association

Office for Intellectual Freedom

50 East Huron Street

Chicago, IL 60611

312-280-4225

800-545-2433, ext. 4225

Fax: 312-280-4227

dwood@ala.org

http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/index.html

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From: Jonathan Betz-Zall <JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: stumper - song

Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:01:56 CDT

I wasn't at PLA but we do this song occasionally, using the following

motions:

A ram sam sam gently pound right fist on top of left fist

A ram sam sam gently pount left fist on top of right fist

Guli Guli Guli Guli Guli "roll" hands around each other

Ram sam sam gently pound one fist on top of the other

fist

A raf-fi, A raf-fi open arms upward and outward, then inward, twice

Guli Guli Guli Guli Guli "roll" hands around each other

Ram sam sam gently pound one fist on top of the other

fist

[repeat]

We've also done a parody:

A Pizza Hut, A Pizza Hut make "roof" with hands, palms down

Kentucky Fried Chicken flap arms like "chicken wings"

and a Pizza Hut make "roof" with hands

A Pizza Hut, A Pizza Hut make "roof" with hands, palms down

Kentucky Fried Chicken flap arms like "chicken wings"

MacDonalds, Macdonalds trace "M" shape in the air with hands curled

Kentucky Friend Chicken flap arms like "chicken wings"

and a Pizza Hut make "roof" with hands

[repeat]

Enjoy!

Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian

Edmonds Library, Washington

JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org (425)771-1933

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From: Carrie Eldridge <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: stumper -answer A ram sam sam song

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:03:35 CDT

>Carrie

Here are three slightly different versions of "A ram sam sam"

I use this song a lot. I've put the actions I use in between the

words for you!

> These are the words...

>

> A ram sam sam

> A ram sam sam

(Clap hands on 'ram' both 'sams')

> Guli, guli, guli, guli, guli

(Roll hands over each other)

> Ram sam sam

(Clap as above)

>

>

> (repeat)

>

> A rafi,

(Put right elbow on left palm. Rotate right arm in

a circle with index finger pointing up.)

A rafi

(Put left elbow on right palm. Rotate left arm in circles

with index finger pointing up.)

> Guli, guli, guli, guli, guli

(Roll hands over each other)

> Ram sam sam.

(clap as above)

>

>

This can also be done as a round.

Melissa Karnosh

Head of Youth Services

Broward County South Regional/BCC Library

Broward County, FL

This is from Nancy Stewart, a musician up in your area. I think you can

also find the song in Crazy Gibberish by Naomi Baltuck (a former Girl

Scout) which may have the movements (which may or may not be different).

I put the motions after the words below.

Kate Carter, Youth Librarian

Multnomah County Library

801 SW 10th (503)248-5235

Portland, OR 97205 katec@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Carrie Eldridge wrote:

> Anyone out there attend the session on Toddler programs at PLA in

> Charlotte? They presented a song called "A ram sam sam."

>

> These are the words...

>

> A ram sam sam

> A ram sam sam [slap thighs in time]

> Guli, guli, guli, guli, guli [roll hands]

> Ram sam sam [slap thighs in time]

>

>

> (repeat)

>

> A rafi, A rafi [shake hands up high & clap on

last syllable, 2 times--as a former Girl Scout I don't remember the

clapping]

> Guli, guli, guli, guli, guli [roll hands]

> Ram sam sam. [slap thighs in time]

>

pubyac

Carrie Eldridge

San Juan Island Library District

Friday Harbor, WA 98250

360-378-2798

360-378-2706 (fax)

celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us

"I eat words wherever

I find them but am no wiser.

Keep your books under lock and key

or they'll be devoured by me!"

what am I?

-from "Riddle Road: puzzles in poems and

pictures" illustrated by Erik Blegvad

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From: Theyer Hillary <HTheyer@TORRNET.COM>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: stumper - song

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:04:48 CDT

I know the actions, and I have no idea how to describe them in words. I

will try …

For "A ram sam sam" you clap in rhythm on the beats

For "guli guli guli" you roll your arms like for wheels on the bus

For "a rafi" you put one hand on the other elbow, twirl the other hand in

the air in rhythm.

I always repeat the "a rafi" part with the other hand.

Does this make sense? If the kids are really into it, we do the same

actions again …

Like mice, sing in high squeaky voices and use only our pointer fingers for

the actions

Like giants, sing in deep voices and use all of our arms in huge motions

(make sure kids don’t smack each other!)

Very slow.

Very fast!

It’s one of the best all around action songs for storytime.

Hillary Theyer

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From: Carrie Eldridge

Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:55 PM

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: stumper - song

Anyone out there attend the session on Toddler programs at PLA in

Charlotte? They presented a song called "A ram sam sam."

These are the words...

A ram sam sam

A ram sam sam

Guli, guli, guli, guli, guli

Ram sam sam

(repeat)

A rafi, A rafi

Guli, guli, guli, guli, guli

Ram sam sam.

I seem to remember they had 'actions' for the song. Does anyone

remember

them?

The tune for this song can be found at www.girlscout.net/songs/

Thanks, in advance!

Carrie Eldridge

San Juan Island Library District

Friday Harbor, WA 98250

360-378-2798

360-378-2706 (fax)

celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us

"I eat words wherever

I find them but am no wiser.

Keep your books under lock and key

or they'll be devoured by me!"

what am I?

-from "Riddle Road: puzzles in

poems and

pictures" illustrated by Erik

Blegvad

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