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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:49:00 CDT Subject: PUBYAC digest 186 PUBYAC Digest 186 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Harry Potter by "Oliver, Jim" <joliver@SIOUX-FALLS.org> 2) Harry Potter received today by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com> 3) Shelving Picture Books by toni whiney <whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us> 4) Re: Mysteries for Storytellers by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com> 5) Re: Reference Questions by ILefkowitz@aol.com 6) RE: Harry Potter by WLPL <children@wlaf.lib.in.us> 7) Source for library-related stickers? by "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org> 8) Re: Fair Labor Standards Act by "Donie Gignac" <DGignac1@ci.tucson.az.us> 9) Re: Unlikely looking patron? by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com> 10) RE: Fair Labor Standards Act by "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us> 11) Tatoos by Jean Hewlett <hewlett@usfca.edu> 12) Reading Rainbow/Calliope by Amy Blake <ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu> 13) How many Harry Potters are enough? by vmenor <vmenor@is2.dal.ca> 14) Re: Egyptian Crafts by RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us> 15) Need more response to exempt by "Doering, Nancy" <doerin@sosmail.state.mo.us> 16) Re: Harry Potter by Inga Laurila <laurila@noblenet.org> 17) Re: Christian fiction or propaganda? by Lulu6700@aol.com 18) Re: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda] by Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us> 19) SR prize collection by Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us> 20) RE: Storytellers/message (long) by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oliver, Jim" <joliver@SIOUX-FALLS.org> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Harry Potter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:37:45 CDT I ordered 50 copies of the latest Harry Potter book on February 9th from Ingram. I haven't received my copies yet, even though I signed an agreement not to make the book available until July 8th. Our local bookstores, including Barnes and Noble, have their copies ready to go and are planning big parties in conjunction with the book's release. I'm curious to know if other public libraries have received their copies, or are we all playing second fiddle to bookstores. Jim Oliver Head of Children's Services Siouxland Libraries 201 North Main Avenue Sioux Falls, SD 57104 605-367-8719 Fax: 367-4312 "You are what you pretend to be." -- Kurt Vonnegut ------------------------------ From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com> Subject: Harry Potter received today MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:52:35 CDT Well, we got it today. All 5 of our copies of the new Harry Potter book arrived today from Baker and Taylor. They have a note enclosed asking us not to make them available to the public until Saturday, July 8. I will of course honor their request, but I can't wait to read it myself tonight. (I am justifying it with the fact that I have a Harry Potter festival on Wednesday and I need appropriate time to prepare, but honestly I just can't wait to dig in.) I think this will be the last one in the children's room, the next (#5) will most likely have to be a YA book. We already have copies of all of the books in the Adult collection, along with a copy in adult large type. I knew it was 700+ pages, but it still surprised me how overwhelming it appears. I wonder if it will turn kids off to the series seeing the size of it. Okay, enough of my ramblings. Anyone else get it yet? Any other opinions? Lorie O'Donnell Children's Librarian Jervis Public Library Rome, NY 13440 odonnell@borg.com http://www.borg.com/~odonnell -- Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul. Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal. **************Ralph Vaull Starr************* ------------------------------ From: toni whiney <whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org, OPLINLIST@epicurus.oplin.lib.oh.us Subject: Shelving Picture Books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C9DF8F2DC3F62ED4BCE490BC" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:07:32 CDT
--------------C9DF8F2DC3F62ED4BCE490BC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help, oh collective minds! Can you share with me how your library shelves the picture books. Specifically, do you shelve them by the first two letters of the authors last name, alphabetically, or just by the first letter of the authors last name? Also, does the situation work well for your library and for the patrons. Do you use an alphabetic indicator on the books? We are in the process of reviewing how picture books are shelved and your responses are welcome. Thank you! Please reply either to list or to me personally. Toni Whitney Youth Services Librarian Ashland Public Library Ashland, Ohio E-mail: whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us ------------------------------ From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org, bendersan40@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Mysteries for Storytellers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:22:57 CDT My favorite mystery for elementary read alouds is The Eleventh Hour by G. Base. Great mystery and pictures. Expect a rush of kids wanting to take home to study! Lorie ------------------------------ From: ILefkowitz@aol.com To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Reference Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:38:47 CDT <<the pierced and unlikely-looking patron in the children's room wanting a picture of Curious George wearing the yellow hat. Turns out he was with a local tattoo parlor finding a design for a customer's body. >> Oh, I can beat that. One patron asked me what a Chinese Madam would wear. Seems she had a part in a dinner mystery and needed to come in costume. Then another patron asked what a 18th century prostitute would have worn. Why me? Ilene Lefkowitz Youth Services Librarian Mount Olive Public Library (NJ) ILefkowitz@aol.com ------------------------------ From: WLPL <children@wlaf.lib.in.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Harry Potter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BFE759.61CB6B10" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:49:43 CDT
------ =_NextPart_000_01BFE759.61CB6B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had the last few days off so I haven't read all the answers to this = yet, but I do know something. I am close friends with the owners of a = Christian bookstore. When the last Left Behind book was due out a = patron called and asked if we had it yet as she had seen in at Walmart. = When I went into the bookstore and spoke to the owner about this he said = that he was sure Walmart would not be penalized. If he had done it, as = owner of just one store, he would have been denied the next book. But = Walmart is so big that no one would tell them they could not recieve = their thousands of copies of the next book. I assume it is basically = the same for Harry Potter, but then again maybe not. If a large chain = can't carry them there is probably someone near by who would pick of the = slack. =20 Pam children@wlaf.lib.in.us ------------------------------ From: "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Source for library-related stickers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:00:45 CDT We're looking for a source for library-related stickers so we could give kids who are getting their first library card a special sticker, e.g., "I got my library card today!" We've checked Upstart, Demco, and ALA Graphics. Rivershore Reading Store does have one that would be OK, but I'm wondering if there might be other sources that your libraries have found. Thanks, Rae Kozloff Anacortes Public Library raek@cityofanacortes.org ------------------------------ From: "Donie Gignac" <DGignac1@ci.tucson.az.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Fair Labor Standards Act Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:11:42 CDT The librarians in the Tucson-Pima Public Library system are exempt. >>> "Doering, Nancy" <doerin@sosmail.state.mo.us> 07/06/00 08:11AM >>> Oops! I meant Hear! Hear!--yesterday was a very stressful day. Which brings me to my next question for all you fellow pubyac-ers in the USA: With regard to the Fair Labor Standards Act (US federal law) how are your librarians with MLS degrees classified--exempt or nonexempt? Please answer as soon as possible because on Monday a begin a much-needed vacation. My colleague here also belongs, so she can keep track of answers while I am gone, but the curiousity will kill me on vacation. Thank you so much. I appreciate all your comments. Nancy Doering
Nancy Doering Youth Services Librarian Wolfner Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped P.O. Box 387 600 W. Main Jefferson City, MO 65102-0387 TELEPHONE 573-751-8720 FAX 573-526-2985 "Any opinions expressed are my own" ------------------------------ From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Unlikely looking patron? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:22:36 CDT It's so nice to know that I am not the only one who feels this way! I am a Children's Librarian for profession and a biker chick (babe, b*tch, lady, etc. depending on the biker faction you ask) for life and leisure. I get the looks from both ends. At the library, anyone who has seen me in the black leather chaps with my tattoos and my biker friends gives me a strange look. And you should have seen the faces of those at the Harley Rendezvous who found out I am a Children's Librarian!!! Oh to make the differences the acceptable norm! Not to blend the cultures together, but to revel in the uniqueness of each other. Lorie O'Donnell (Miss Lorie only until 5 pm!!) -- Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul. Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal. **************Ralph Vaull Starr************* ------------------------------ From: "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Fair Labor Standards Act MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:33:26 CDT At our library librarians are exempt Ruth Shafer rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us ------------------------------ From: Jean Hewlett <hewlett@usfca.edu> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Tatoos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:51:08 CDT
If you've found the recent messages about reactions to tatooed patrons interesting, you may wish to check out this website: THE MODIFIED LIBRARIAN http://www.bmeworld.com/gailcat/ Jean Hewlett hewlett@usfca.edu All opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employers. ------------------------------ From: Amy Blake <ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Reading Rainbow/Calliope Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:03:07 CDT Dear Collective Minds, There are several things I can do without but PUBYAC and chocolate are not them :) And now for my requests: I vaguely remember this site/program being mentioned in early summer... My director is looking for the Reading Rainbow Summer Reading Program which involvesmath but has been unable to find it onthe RR site. Would anyone know the URL? If so please contact me directly. Thank you in advance! Also, a patron is looking for an old issue of Calliope/Dec. 1997. She is interested in the Praetorian Guard article on page 20/21. Would anyone be able to snail mail the article? We could not find it on Inspire-Indiana which carries some full text magazines. Contact me at ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu Thank you! Amy Blake Knox County Public Library ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu ------------------------------ From: vmenor <vmenor@is2.dal.ca> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: How many Harry Potters are enough? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:14:51 CDT I am curious as to how many copies of book 4 others are purchasing? I am at a small library serving a population of 22 000, and unfortunately can't get as many as I think that we might need. What I'd like to know is how many other's are getting in relation to the size of the community, and the number of people on the holds list. Thanks Vanessa Vanessa Menor Children's Librarian Whitchurch-Stouffville Public Library ------------------------------ From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Egyptian Crafts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:31:26 CDT I am thinking that the teens would enjoy designing their own cartouche of hieroglyphic images... hmm, maybe making them dimensional, in plaster? or framable, and design frames with Egyption images. RoseMary ------------------------------ From: "Doering, Nancy" <doerin@sosmail.state.mo.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Need more response to exempt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:42:27 CDT Thank you so much to the eight pubyac-ers who have answered my exempt vs nonexempt question so far. I would very much appreciate hearing from more of you. While I am on vacation my colleague will be keeping track of the answers. The question again: With regard to the United States Fair Labor Standards Act, how are your librarians with MLS degrees classified--exempt or nonexempt? Nancy Doering Youth Services Librarian Wolfner Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped P.O. Box 387 600 W. Main Jefferson City, MO 65102-0387 TELEPHONE 573-751-8720 FAX 573-526-2985 "Any opinions expressed are my own" ------------------------------ From: Inga Laurila <laurila@noblenet.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Harry Potter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:53:46 CDT
The Lucius Beebe Memorial Library in Wakefield, Ma is planning several evetns to celebrate the publication of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. On Friday evening, two of the librarians, Inga Laurila and Gray Sawyer will go to the local Borders where they will participate in that stores marathon reading leading up to the selling of the book that will begin at midnight. At midnight they will purchase the 125 copies of the book they have already reserved. Approximately half of these will go to cover the 37 reservations that have already been placed on the book. The rest will be prizes in the Beebe's summer reading program. On Saturday the library will host readings form the new book. Michael Adams, a Bostom DJ (WFNX 101.7) will be one of the readers. While listening to the book, participants will have an opportunity to create wizard cards and build their own owl. Inga Laurila Lucius Beebe Memorial Library, Wakefield Massachusetts laurila@noblenet.org North of Boston Library Exchange ------------------------------ From: Lulu6700@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Christian fiction or propaganda? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:04:41 CDT I am really shocked that there is such a big to-do over the Left Behind books. I read the first one and, yes, it is not great literature but it is an entertaining read. That is one purpose of reading. If we are about promoting reading then what's the problem? It is deeply troubling that anyone finds this as something that people should be protected from or that anyone could think that they are such protectors. Lucia Greenberg ------------------------------ From: Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:15:25 CDT On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Lodge, Debra wrote: And just a humble question, do all of you folks railing against the "intolerance" of the LEFT BEHIND books have the Narnia books on your juvenile shelves? I think Lewis was pretty explicit about what happens to those who don't "love Aslan." Of course, the Narnia books are beloved classics and of exceptional literary quality. But if the problem is one of intolerance, I would think they would qualify.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Lesley Knieriem ~ ~ YA / Reference Librarian (631) 549-4411 ~ ~ South Huntington Public Library fax (631) 549-6832 ~ ~ Huntington Station, NY 11746 lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us ~ ~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ ~ Nunc adeamus bibliothecam, non illam quidem multis instructam ~ ~ libris, sed exquisitis. -- Erasmus ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: SR prize collection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:26:21 CDT Hello to all - I have a question about a topic that routinely comes up in our library but hasn't been addressed in this thread. Does anyone put any kind of limits on how long a child can belong to summer reading before they collect any prizes? Our rules this year for the "big" prize (PB book, food coupons) is 10 hours OR 10 books OR 1000 pages. We've been happy with those choices. Our smaller incentive prizes can be gained by reading/doing different activities or types of books. Theoretically it is possible for a child to collect some prizes in the same day, but I try to steer them away from a quick (or too easy) attainment of prizes. But there is always the child who signs up at 10:00 and is "finished" by 10:30. So does anyone have a minimum time of belonging before any prizes - a day, a week? None at all? Thanks! Jan Wall Youth Services Librarian Latah County Library District 110 South Jefferson Street Moscow ID 83843 fax: 208-882-5098 janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us ------------------------------ From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Storytellers/message (long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:37:45 CDT
I don't think you're overly sensitive to be concerned about this issue. I've been in a similar situation myself. I've found myself wondering whether it's appropriate to do programs for Christmas and Easter since they are religious holidays. In those situations, I ended up deciding that it's not a question of springing it on the attendees... They know what they're getting when they sign up for Christmas storytime. But yes, I would be concerned if a storyteller was springing it without warning during a storytelling program. I guess since public libraries are a government institution, I think of it as falling under the heading of separation of church and state. The only way I'd be particularly comfortable with it is if you had a program that was specifically promoted as "stories of our varied heritage" with Bible stories and African porquoi tales and stories of Norse gods and Native American legends and so forth... There's a lot of rich story material there, so it would be a shame to exclude it completely, but you ought to make it clear what you're presenting and provide a balance of materials, or it will end up as an agenda being promoted by the library, whatever your opinions may be on that agenda. Just my opinions, of course, Andrea Johnson ajohnson@cooklib.org ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 186 ************************ |
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