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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:49:00 CDT

Subject: PUBYAC digest 186

PUBYAC Digest 186

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Harry Potter

by "Oliver, Jim" <joliver@SIOUX-FALLS.org>

2) Harry Potter received today

by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>

3) Shelving Picture Books

by toni whiney <whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us>

4) Re: Mysteries for Storytellers

by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>

5) Re: Reference Questions

by ILefkowitz@aol.com

6) RE: Harry Potter

by WLPL <children@wlaf.lib.in.us>

7) Source for library-related stickers?

by "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org>

8) Re: Fair Labor Standards Act

by "Donie Gignac" <DGignac1@ci.tucson.az.us>

9) Re: Unlikely looking patron?

by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>

10) RE: Fair Labor Standards Act

by "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>

11) Tatoos

by Jean Hewlett <hewlett@usfca.edu>

12) Reading Rainbow/Calliope

by Amy Blake <ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu>

13) How many Harry Potters are enough?

by vmenor <vmenor@is2.dal.ca>

14) Re: Egyptian Crafts

by RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>

15) Need more response to exempt

by "Doering, Nancy" <doerin@sosmail.state.mo.us>

16) Re: Harry Potter

by Inga Laurila <laurila@noblenet.org>

17) Re: Christian fiction or propaganda?

by Lulu6700@aol.com

18) Re: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda]

by Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

19) SR prize collection

by Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>

20) RE: Storytellers/message (long)

by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

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From: "Oliver, Jim" <joliver@SIOUX-FALLS.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Harry Potter

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:37:45 CDT

I ordered 50 copies of the latest Harry Potter book on February 9th from

Ingram. I haven't received my copies yet, even though I signed an agreement

not to make the book available until July 8th. Our local bookstores,

including Barnes and Noble, have their copies ready to go and are planning

big parties in conjunction with the book's release.

I'm curious to know if other public libraries have received their copies, or

are we all playing second fiddle to bookstores.

Jim Oliver

Head of Children's Services

Siouxland Libraries

201 North Main Avenue

Sioux Falls, SD 57104

605-367-8719

Fax: 367-4312

"You are what you pretend to be." -- Kurt Vonnegut

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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>

Subject: Harry Potter received today

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 20:52:35 CDT

Well, we got it today. All 5 of our copies of the new Harry Potter book arrived today from Baker and Taylor. They have a note enclosed asking

us not to make them available to the public until Saturday, July 8. I will of course honor their request, but I can't wait to read it myself

tonight. (I am justifying it with the fact that I have a Harry Potter festival on Wednesday and I need appropriate time to prepare, but

honestly I just can't wait to dig in.)

I think this will be the last one in the children's room, the next (#5) will most likely have to be a YA book. We already have copies of all

of the books in the Adult collection, along with a copy in adult large type. I knew it was 700+ pages, but it still surprised me how

overwhelming it appears. I wonder if it will turn kids off to the series seeing the size of it.

Okay, enough of my ramblings. Anyone else get it yet? Any other opinions?

Lorie O'Donnell

Children's Librarian

Jervis Public Library

Rome, NY 13440

odonnell@borg.com

http://www.borg.com/~odonnell

-- Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul.

Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal.

**************Ralph Vaull Starr*************

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From: toni whiney <whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org, OPLINLIST@epicurus.oplin.lib.oh.us

Subject: Shelving Picture Books

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Please help, oh collective minds! Can you share with me how your

library shelves the picture books. Specifically, do you shelve them by

the first two letters of the authors last name, alphabetically, or just

by the first letter of the authors last name? Also, does the situation

work well for your library and for the patrons. Do you use an

alphabetic indicator on the books?

We are in the process of reviewing how picture books are shelved and

your responses are welcome. Thank you! Please reply either to list or

to me personally.

Toni Whitney

Youth Services Librarian

Ashland Public Library

Ashland, Ohio

E-mail: whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us

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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org, bendersan40@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: Mysteries for Storytellers

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:22:57 CDT

My favorite mystery for elementary read alouds is The Eleventh Hour

by G. Base. Great mystery and pictures. Expect a rush of kids wanting to

take home to study! Lorie

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From: ILefkowitz@aol.com

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Reference Questions

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:38:47 CDT

<<the pierced and unlikely-looking patron in the children's room wanting a picture of Curious George wearing the yellow hat. Turns out he was with a local tattoo parlor finding a design for a customer's

body. >>

Oh, I can beat that. One patron asked me what a Chinese Madam would wear. Seems she had a part in a dinner mystery and needed to come in costume. Then another patron asked what a 18th century prostitute would have worn. Why me?

Ilene Lefkowitz

Youth Services Librarian

Mount Olive Public Library (NJ)

ILefkowitz@aol.com

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From: WLPL <children@wlaf.lib.in.us>

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Subject: RE: Harry Potter

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I've had the last few days off so I haven't read all the answers to this =

yet, but I do know something. I am close friends with the owners of a =

Christian bookstore. When the last Left Behind book was due out a =

patron called and asked if we had it yet as she had seen in at Walmart. =

When I went into the bookstore and spoke to the owner about this he said =

that he was sure Walmart would not be penalized. If he had done it, as =

owner of just one store, he would have been denied the next book. But =

Walmart is so big that no one would tell them they could not recieve =

their thousands of copies of the next book. I assume it is basically =

the same for Harry Potter, but then again maybe not. If a large chain =

can't carry them there is probably someone near by who would pick of the =

slack. =20

Pam

children@wlaf.lib.in.us

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From: "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Source for library-related stickers?

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:00:45 CDT

We're looking for a source for library-related stickers so we could give

kids who are getting their first library card a special sticker, e.g., "I

got my library card

today!" We've checked Upstart, Demco, and ALA Graphics. Rivershore

Reading Store does have one that would be OK, but I'm wondering if

there might be other sources that your libraries have found.

Thanks,

Rae Kozloff

Anacortes Public Library

raek@cityofanacortes.org

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From: "Donie Gignac" <DGignac1@ci.tucson.az.us>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Fair Labor Standards Act

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:11:42 CDT

The librarians in the Tucson-Pima Public Library system are exempt.

>>> "Doering, Nancy" <doerin@sosmail.state.mo.us> 07/06/00 08:11AM >>>

Oops! I meant Hear! Hear!--yesterday was a very stressful day. Which

brings me to my next question for all you fellow pubyac-ers in the USA:

With regard to the Fair Labor Standards Act (US federal law) how are your

librarians with MLS degrees classified--exempt or nonexempt? Please answer

as soon as possible because on Monday a begin a much-needed vacation. My

colleague here also belongs, so she can keep track of answers while I am

gone, but the curiousity will kill me on vacation. Thank you so much. I

appreciate all your comments. Nancy Doering

 

Nancy Doering

Youth Services Librarian

Wolfner Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped

P.O. Box 387

600 W. Main

Jefferson City, MO 65102-0387

TELEPHONE 573-751-8720

FAX 573-526-2985

"Any opinions expressed are my own"

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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Unlikely looking patron?

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:22:36 CDT

It's so nice to know that I am not the only one who feels this way! I am a

Children's Librarian for profession and a biker chick (babe, b*tch, lady, etc.

depending on the biker faction you ask) for life and leisure. I get the looks

from both ends. At the library, anyone who has seen me in the black leather

chaps with my tattoos and my biker friends gives me a strange look. And you

should have seen the faces of those at the Harley Rendezvous who found out I am a

Children's Librarian!!!

Oh to make the differences the acceptable norm! Not to blend the cultures

together, but to revel in the uniqueness of each other.

Lorie O'Donnell

(Miss Lorie only until 5 pm!!)

-- Reach high, for stars lie hidden in your soul.

Dream deep, for every dream precedes the goal.

**************Ralph Vaull Starr*************

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From: "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Fair Labor Standards Act

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:33:26 CDT

At our library librarians are exempt

Ruth Shafer

rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us

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From: Jean Hewlett <hewlett@usfca.edu>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Tatoos

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:51:08 CDT

 

 

If you've found the recent messages about reactions to

tatooed patrons interesting, you may wish to check out

this website:

THE MODIFIED LIBRARIAN

http://www.bmeworld.com/gailcat/

Jean Hewlett

hewlett@usfca.edu

All opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my

employers.

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From: Amy Blake <ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu>

To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org

Subject: Reading Rainbow/Calliope

Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:03:07 CDT

Dear Collective Minds,

There are several things I can do without but PUBYAC and chocolate are not

them :)

And now for my requests:

I vaguely remember this site/program being mentioned in early summer...

My director is looking for the Reading Rainbow Summer Reading Program which

involvesmath but has been unable to find it onthe RR site. Would anyone know

the URL? If so please contact me directly. Thank you in advance!

Also, a patron is looking for an old issue of Calliope/Dec. 1997. She is

interested in the Praetorian Guard article on page 20/21. Would anyone be

able to snail mail the article? We could not find it on Inspire-Indiana which

carries some full text magazines. Contact me at ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu

Thank you!

Amy Blake

Knox County Public Library

ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu

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From: vmenor <vmenor@is2.dal.ca>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: How many Harry Potters are enough?

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:14:51 CDT

I am curious as to how many copies of book 4 others are purchasing? I am at a

small library serving a population of 22 000, and unfortunately can't get as

many as I think that we might need. What I'd like to know is how many other's

are getting in relation to the size of the community, and the number of people

on the holds list.

Thanks

Vanessa

Vanessa Menor

Children's Librarian

Whitchurch-Stouffville Public Library

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From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Egyptian Crafts

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:31:26 CDT

I am thinking that the teens would enjoy designing their own cartouche of

hieroglyphic images... hmm, maybe making them dimensional, in plaster? or

framable, and design frames with Egyption images.

RoseMary

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From: "Doering, Nancy" <doerin@sosmail.state.mo.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Need more response to exempt

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:42:27 CDT

Thank you so much to the eight pubyac-ers who have answered my exempt vs

nonexempt question so far. I would very much appreciate hearing from more

of you. While I am on vacation my colleague will be keeping track of the

answers. The question again:

With regard to the United States Fair Labor Standards Act, how are your

librarians with MLS degrees classified--exempt or nonexempt?

Nancy Doering

Youth Services Librarian

Wolfner Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped

P.O. Box 387

600 W. Main

Jefferson City, MO 65102-0387

TELEPHONE 573-751-8720

FAX 573-526-2985

"Any opinions expressed are my own"

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From: Inga Laurila <laurila@noblenet.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Harry Potter

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:53:46 CDT

 

The Lucius Beebe Memorial Library in Wakefield, Ma is planning several

evetns to celebrate the publication of Harry Potter and the Goblet of

Fire.

On Friday evening, two of the librarians, Inga Laurila and Gray Sawyer

will go to the local Borders

where they will participate in that stores marathon reading leading up to

the selling of the book that will begin at midnight. At midnight they

will purchase the 125 copies of the book they have already reserved.

Approximately half of these will go to cover the 37 reservations that have

already been placed on the book. The rest will be prizes in the Beebe's

summer reading program. On Saturday the library will host readings form

the new book. Michael Adams, a Bostom DJ (WFNX 101.7) will be one of the

readers. While listening to the book, participants will have an

opportunity to create wizard cards and build their own owl.

Inga Laurila

Lucius Beebe Memorial Library, Wakefield Massachusetts

laurila@noblenet.org

North of Boston Library Exchange

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Subject: Re: Christian fiction or propaganda?

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:04:41 CDT

I am really shocked that there is such a big to-do over the Left Behind

books. I read the first one and, yes, it is not great literature but it is

an entertaining read. That is one purpose of reading. If we are about

promoting reading then what's the problem?

It is deeply troubling that anyone finds this as something that people should

be protected from or that anyone could think that they are such protectors.

Lucia Greenberg

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From: Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda]

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:15:25 CDT

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Lodge, Debra wrote:

And just a humble question, do all of you folks railing against the

"intolerance" of the LEFT BEHIND books have the Narnia books on your

juvenile shelves? I think Lewis was pretty explicit about what happens to

those who don't "love Aslan."

Of course, the Narnia books are beloved classics and of exceptional

literary quality. But if the problem is one of intolerance, I would think

they would qualify.

 

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~ Lesley Knieriem ~

~ YA / Reference Librarian (631) 549-4411 ~

~ South Huntington Public Library fax (631) 549-6832 ~

~ Huntington Station, NY 11746 lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us ~

~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~

~ Nunc adeamus bibliothecam, non illam quidem multis instructam ~

~ libris, sed exquisitis. -- Erasmus ~

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From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>

To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org

Subject: SR prize collection

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:26:21 CDT

Hello to all -

I have a question about a topic that routinely comes up in our library but

hasn't been addressed in this thread. Does anyone put any kind of limits on

how long a child can belong to summer reading before they collect any prizes?

Our rules this year for the "big" prize (PB book, food coupons) is 10 hours

OR 10 books OR 1000 pages. We've been happy with those choices. Our smaller

incentive prizes can be gained by reading/doing different activities or

types of books. Theoretically it is possible for a child to collect some

prizes in the same day, but I try to steer them away from a quick (or too

easy) attainment of prizes. But there is always the child who signs up at

10:00 and is "finished" by 10:30.

So does anyone have a minimum time of belonging before any prizes - a day,

a week? None at all?

Thanks!

Jan Wall

Youth Services Librarian

Latah County Library District

110 South Jefferson Street

Moscow ID 83843

fax: 208-882-5098

janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Storytellers/message (long)

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:37:45 CDT

 

 

I don't think you're overly sensitive to be concerned about this

issue. I've been in a similar situation myself. I've found myself

wondering whether it's appropriate to do programs for Christmas and Easter

since they are religious holidays. In those situations, I ended up deciding

that it's not a question of springing it on the attendees... They know what

they're getting when they sign up for Christmas storytime. But yes, I

would be concerned if a storyteller was springing it without warning during

a storytelling program. I guess since public libraries are a government

institution, I think of it as falling under the heading of separation of

church and state. The only way I'd be particularly comfortable with it is

if you had a program that was specifically promoted as "stories of our

varied heritage" with Bible stories and African porquoi tales and stories of

Norse gods and Native American legends and so forth... There's a lot of

rich story material there, so it would be a shame to exclude it completely,

but you ought to make it clear what you're presenting and provide a balance

of materials, or it will end up as an agenda being promoted by the library,

whatever your opinions may be on that agenda.

Just my opinions, of course,

Andrea Johnson

ajohnson@cooklib.org

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