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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
& Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 245
PUBYAC Digest 245
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Library tours for kids
by "talcock" <talcock@co.north-slope.ak.us>
2) RE: STUMPER: Origin of "Pop Goes the Weasel"
by Laura Whaley <WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org>
3) Job Listing--Children's Librarian
by "Kelley, Judy" <JKelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
4) The Little Engine That Could
by "Laura Schulte-Cooper" <lschulte@ala.org>
5) Re: Adoption & poetry
by Marjorie Potter <potter@noblenet.org>
6) Library's 'witchcraft' certificate endorsed religion, group
says
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
7) Fish Stumper
by Bryce <Bryce@exchg1.palsplus.org>
8) Stumper- minus? and the fish
by rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com>
9) Talking Points on Filtering and Appropriations for
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
10) Hamilton High YA series
by Jeanfargo@aol.com
11) stumper
by "Sue Peterson" <speterson@scld.lib.wa.us>
12) Stumper - 50s-ish children's novel
by "Linda Spear" <Linda.Spear@euclid.lib.oh.us>
13) Mexican hat Dance--Thank You!
by Corey Bennett <bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
14) Stumper
by Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org>
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From: "talcock" <talcock@co.north-slope.ak.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Library tours for kids
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:31:22 CDT
I need tips about how to run fun and interesting library tours for
elementary
and middle school
classes. Any suggestions?
____________________
Tara Alcock, Public Services Librarian
Tuzzy Consortium Library
P.O. Box 749
Barrow Ak 99723
Phone no. (907)852-1720
1-800-478-6916
work: talcock@co.north-slope.ak.us
talcock@inupiatresearch@ilisagvik
home:TaraA@mail.com
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From: Laura Whaley <WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: STUMPER: Origin of "Pop Goes the Weasel"
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:32:31 CDT
Long answer from a short search.... the website is
http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-pop1.htm
Laura
Q. From Nigel Neve in the UK: "Having a little rug rat, I am now at that
stage where I find myself revising my knowledge of nursery rhymes. The
one
at the top of my mind currently is Pop Goes the Weasel. Most people
remember
the first two verses but there are three more, as you can see below. Can
you
help explain them?
Half a pound of tuppenny rice,
Half a pound of treacle.
That's the way the money goes,
Pop goes the weasel.
Up and down the City road,
In and out the Eagle,
That's the way the money goes,
Pop goes the weasel.
Every night when I go out
the monkey's on the table.
Take a stick and knock it off
Pop goes the weasel.
A penny for a ball of thread
Another for a needle,
That's the way the money goes,
pop goes the weasel.
All around the cobblers bench
the monkey chased the people;
The donkey thought 'twas all in fun,
pop goes the weasel.
A. Before anybody rushes to put fingers to keyboard, let me say that
this is
by no means the only version of the lyric. There are several others,
especially from the United States. But this is the usual British
version, a
famous catchy rhyme (or at least, as you say, the first two verses are).
The earliest reference I can find to music with this name actually comes
from the United States, from sheet music entitled "Pop goes the Weasel
for
Fun and Frolic", published in 1850 by Messrs Miller and Beacham of
Baltimore. Another from three years later refers to "the latest English
dance" and also "an old English Dance lately revived", so it
seems to
have
been imported from Britain. None of these early versions had any lyrics
apart from a repeated "Pop goes the weasel", the catch line of the
dance,
which was sung or shouted by the dancers as one pair of them darted
under
the arms of the others. Several references in books and magazines
suggest
that the tune soon became extremely well known, and that pop goes the
weasel
became a catchphrase, as it later did in Britain. There have been
suggestions that the phrase was intended to be ribald or erotic, though
the
explanations I've seen are somewhat fanciful.
Following first publication of this article, David Joyce wrote that:
"The
tune is a version of that used for the country dance, The Haymakers,
which
has the same form as Strip the Willow, and Bab at the Bowster (a couple
hold
hands, forming a bridge, which the other couples have to pass under).
The
tune was published in Gow's Repository, issued in four volumes between
1799
and 1820. Thus the tune was around at least half a century before the
American publication of Pop Goes The Weasel, but is certainly very much
older. (It is similar to the tune used for Humpty Dumpty, and not far
removed from Lilliebulero and Rock A-bye Baby, all jigs traceable back
to
the seventeenth century.)"
The first British mention of the phrase pop goes the weasel dates from
an
advertisement by Boosey and Sons of 1854 which described "the new
country
dance 'Pop goes the weasel', introduced by her Majesty Queen Victoria"
(a
puff to be taken with a large pinch of salt, we may assume). It would
seem
from the dates that the title was taken from the American publication of
1850.
Talking of Queen Victoria, I found these words attached to the tune in
the
March 1860 issue of the Southern Literary Messenger of Richmond,
Virginia:
Queen Victoria's very sick,
Prince Albert's got the measles.
The children have the whooping cough,
And pop! Goes the weasel.
Her Majesty would not have been amused.
Your version was a British music-hall song of the latter part of the
Victorian period (quite when I haven't been able to discover); it is
highly
probable that the words were composed to the tune of the earlier dance
because everyone on both sides of the Atlantic seems to have the same
one,
even if the words are different.
Some of the references are now quite opaque, but we can take a fair shot
at
a few. In the second verse, the City Road was - still is - a well-known
street in London, more than a mile long. The Eagle was a famous public
house
and music hall, which lay near the east end of the road on the corner of
Shepherdess Walk; this had started its life as a tea-garden, but was
turned
into a music hall in 1825 (one of the very first); it ended its days as
a
Salvation Army centre and was pulled down in 1901.
The City Road had a pawnbroker's shop near its west end and to pop was a
well-known phrase at the time for pawning something. So the second verse
says that visiting the Eagle causes one's money to vanish, necessitating
a
trip up the City Road to Uncle to raise some cash. But what was the
weasel
that was being pawned? Nobody is sure. Some suggest it was a domestic or
tailor's flat-iron, a small item easy to carry. My own guess is that
it's
rhyming slang: weasel and stoat = coat. Either way, it seems to have
been a
punning reinterpretation of the catch line from the older dance.
The first verse just refers to a couple of domestic food items; the
fourth
to sewing or tailors' requisites. The third introduces the monkey, one
sense
of that word being a nineteenth-century term for a drinking vessel in a
public house, which makes sense in context. (It may derive from an older
phrase, to suck the monkey, to drink from a bottle, which was also used
by
dock workers in London for illicitly drinking brandy from a cask by
inserting a straw through the bung.) A stick was a shot of spirits, such
as
rum or brandy; to knock it off was to knock it back, or drink it. (There
have been many other slang meanings of monkey, some extremely rude, of
which
the most famous is perhaps that for £500 or $500; from context, this is
unlikely to be the meaning meant!)
The reference to the monkey in the fifth verse stumps me; in this case
it
seems to be a real beast. It could be one belonging to an organ-grinder,
an
itinerant musician who played a small portable organ, of whom there were
many at this period. But I suspect there are topical or slang references
in
there that are now lost.
-----Original Message-----
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com [mailto:ILefkowitz@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 4:43 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER: Origin of "Pop Goes the Weasel"
Hi all. I hope that you can help me. I'm looking for the origin of
the
nursery rhyme Pop Goes the Weasel. I've found many sources that say it
refers to Pawning back in England. However, the patron who requested
this
information seems to recall it having to do with war. Any ideas?
Thanks.
This list is a life saver!
Ilene Lefkowitz
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Olive Public Library (NJ)
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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From: "Kelley, Judy" <JKelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Job Listing--Children's Librarian
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:33:38 CDT
Newport Beach Public Library, recently named in American Libraries as
among
the best libraries in America, seeks a creative energetic individual to
work
with staff to enhance the already excellent children's services program.
The library has many innovative children's programs and a strong
commitment
to youth services, which is a top priority with the Library Board of
Trustees. This position offers great opportunities for a creative
person to
plan, conduct and advocate for youth services, as well as participate in
the
selection of library materials.
Application and job announcement are available from the City of Newport
Beach, Human Resources Office, 3300 Newport Blvd., P.O. Box 1768,
Newport
Beach, CA 92658-8915 or by visiting the city website at
http://www.city.newport-beach.ca.us
Phone: 949.644.3300. EOE For
more
information about the library and the position visit the library website
at
http://www.newportbeachlibrary.org
or call or e-mail:
Judy Kelley
Youth and Branch Services Manager
Newport Beach Public Library
1000 Avocado Ave.
Newport Beach CA 92660
Phone: 949.717.3807
jkelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us
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From: "Laura Schulte-Cooper" <lschulte@ala.org>
To: "<"<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: The Little Engine That Could
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Help! Could someone tell what the original date of publication is for
"The Little Engine That Could?"
How does one find out the original publication date of a book? I looked
on the Library of Congress page, but it did not seem to offer a
definitive answer.
Thanks much,
*****************************************************
Laura M. Schulte-Cooper
Program Officer, Communications
Association for Library Service to Children
50 E. Huron St.
Chicago, IL 60611
312-280-2165
800-545-2433, ext. 2165
FAX: 312-944-7671
lschulte@ala.org
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From: Marjorie Potter <potter@noblenet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: Re: Adoption & poetry
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:35:59 CDT
Hi,
We have a patron who is looking for songs (music), poetry or sayings
about
adoption for a sister and a brother ages 11 and 12. Does anyone know of
anything that would be appropriate?
Thank you!
Marjorie Potter, Assistant Children's Librarian
Lynnfield Public Library, Lynnfield Massachusetts
potter@noblenet.org
North of Boston Library Exchange
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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: Library's 'witchcraft' certificate endorsed religion, group
says
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:37:25 CDT
Library's 'witchcraft' certificate endorsed religion, group says
http://www.freedomforum.org/news/2000/09/2000-09-13-06.htm
"The public library hosted a party when the latest Harry Potter book
was released, giving "witchcraft" certificates to about 200 young fans
of the
novel series on the young English wizard-in-training."
_________________________
Don Wood
Program Officer/Communications
American Library Association
Office for Intellectual Freedom
50 East Huron Street
Chicago, IL 60611
312-280-4225
800-545-2433, ext. 4225
Fax: 312-280-4227
dwood@ala.org
http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/index.html
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From: Bryce <Bryce@exchg1.palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Fish Stumper
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:38:40 CDT
Hi, again! Thanks for the poppy the fairy answers. It looks like it
may be
from Mary Cicely Barker's books. We ordered them and are anxiously
waiting
to see. Here's another one for you.
A woman came in looking for a book that was probably around the late
50's or
60's. It was about a young boy who was given a goldfish that keeps
growing
and growing unitl it can only fit in a bathtub. Any ideas? My
goldfish,
which lived about 7 or 8 years got pretty big, too, but fit comfortably
in a
10 gallon... :0)
Any help on the above book would be appreciated. TIA!
Richard :0)
Richard Bryce
Senior Children's Librarian
West Milford Township Library
973-728-2823
"So many things have made living and learning easier. But the real
things
haven't changed. It is still best to be honest and truthful; to make the
most of what we have; to be happy with simple pleasures and to be
cheerful
and have courage when things go wrong"- Laura Ingalls Wilder
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From: rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac listserv <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper- minus? and the fish
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:39:54 CDT
A patron came into the library today and was looking
for a book- She and her son think it is called minus
and the fish. I checked our Dynix catalog, A to Zoo
and Amazon. Does anyone out there have any idea about
this one?
TIA,
Becky Stutzman
North Tonawanda Public Library
North Tonawanda, New York
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Becky StutzmanChildren's LibrarianNorth Tonawanda Public LibraryNorth
Tonawanda, New York 14120rastutzman@yahoo.com
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Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: Talking Points on Filtering and Appropriations for
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:41:08 CDT
ALAWON: American Library Association Washington Office Newsline
Volume 9, Number 73
September 14, 2000
In this issue:
Talking Points on Filtering and Appropriations for Labor-HHS-Education
FY2001 Budget
As Congressional conferees remain behind closed doors during
negotiations on the Labor-HHS FY2001 appropriations bill (H.R.
4577) with the attached filtering amendments, library advocates
may receive increased inquiries about filtering and related
issues. Such inquiries could also be generated if
blocking/filtering issues become part of debates in local
congressional campaigns in the coming weeks.
This is a reminder to library supporters that ALA has provided an
INTERNET TOOLKIT on its web site at:
http://www.ala.org/pio/internettoolkit/index.html
for guidance and
suggested talking points when library supporters receive inquiries
about filtering or about ALA's policies. Regardless of one's
local circumstance, there are a number of talking points and other
suggested tips in the TOOLKIT that can prove helpful to local
librarians and library supporters.
For example, the INTERNET TOOLKIT provides a series of FAQ's about
libraries and the Internet. One of the FAQ's and a suggested
response in the TOOLKIT is:
"Why do librarians allow kids to have access to pornography?
We don't. Libraries have policies and procedures for dealing with
this. No one is more concerned about children than librarians.
Many of us are parents. Our role is to help children have a
positive online experience."
Tips for dealing with tough questions from library users or others
include:
* Listen-don't judge. Anticipate which questions you will be asked
and prepare your answers ahead of time;
* Be honest. Tell the truth as you know it. "My experience with
the Internet is. . . ." ;
* It's not just what you say but how you say it. Speak simply,
sincerely, and with conviction.
Library advocates are asked to E-mail their Congressional
legislators at http://congress.ala.org and
ask them to remove all
filtering mandates from the Labor, Health, Human Services and
Education appropriations bill
(H.R. 4577) as outlined in an earlier ALAWON alert available at:
http://www.ala.org/washoff/filteringmandate.html.
Each individual
representative or senator can let his/her leadership in the budget
negotiations know that federal filtering mandates are not the
answer to a very complex question. Key message points on this
legislative language include:
a) Federal filtering mandates are unfunded mandates;
b) Federal mandates trample on the decision making
responsibilities and capabilities of local library and school
boards;
c) Federal filtering mandates are a one-size-fits-all, overly
broad solution to a complex and local problem; and
d) Federal mandates will have the most profound effect on those
libraries which most need E-rate discounts and other funding.
******
ALAWON (ISSN 1069-7799) is a free, irregular publication of the
American Library Association Washington Office. All materials
subject to copyright by the American Library Association may be
reprinted or redistributed for noncommercial purposes with
appropriate credits.
To subscribe to ALAWON, send the message: subscribe ala-wo
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ALAWON
archives at http://www.ala.org/washoff/alawon.
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Washington, D.C. 20004-1701; phone: 202.628.8410 or 800.941.8478
toll-free; fax: 202.628.8419; e-mail: alawash@alawash.org;
Web
site: http://www.ala.org/washoff.
Executive Director: Emily
Sheketoff. Office of Government Relations: Lynne Bradley,
Director; Mary Costabile, Peter Kaplan, Miriam Nisbet and
Claudette Tennant. Office for Information Technology Policy: Rick
Weingarten, Director; Jennifer Hendrix, Carrie Russell and Saundra
Shirley. ALAWON Editor: Bernadette Murphy.
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From: Jeanfargo@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Hamilton High YA series
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:42:22 CDT
Does anyone know of a series for YAs that is similar to the Hamilton
High
series? We visit a group of teen moms every few weeks, and several of
them
have read everything in the series and are looking for something along
the
same lines. If you know of such a series, please e-mail me at
jeanfargo@aol.com.
Thanks!
Jean Fargo
Youth Librarian
Selby Public Library
Sarasota, Florida
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From: "Sue Peterson" <speterson@scld.lib.wa.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:43:34 CDT
Does this sound familiar? A boy is cleaning his room or moving and is =
given two boxes. One box is for things to keep, the other to give away.
=
He has a hard time giving his things away because of the memories =
attached. The customer remembers it from the 1970's, maybe the early =
1980's. Please respond to me at speterson@scld.lib.wa.us.
Thank you for
=
your help!
Sue Peterson
Youth Services Librarian
North Spokane Library
44 E. Hawthorne Road
Spokane, WA 99218-1513
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From: "Linda Spear" <Linda.Spear@euclid.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - 50s-ish children's novel
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A patron is looking for a series of books published "in the 50s" about
a
ghost named Templeton. The town in the story is also called Templeton
after the first baby born there.
Any ideas?
Linda Spear
EPL Children's Manager
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From: Corey Bennett <bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mexican hat Dance--Thank You!
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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:45:57 CDT
Thank you all for the quick responses to my quest! The most popular
answers were "All-Time Favorite Dances" by Kimbo Educational, and
Georgiana Stewart's "Folk Dance Fun." I will try to order both of
these
right away!
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Corey Bennett
Kids, fiction is the truth
New Tampa Regional Library
inside the lie, and the truth
10001 Cross Creek Blvd.
of this fiction is simple
Tampa, FL 33647
enough: *the magic exists.*
bennetc@thpl.org
--Stephen King
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From: Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:47:08 CDT
Our patron is looking for a book she read in the fourth grade, about six
years ago. It is about three (she thinks) children who live in a
orphanage but have an aunt who is either mentally retarded, mentally
challenged, or has had a stroke and has fits. The oldest child is a boy
and the youngest child is a girl who doesn't speak. In a pivotal scene,
the boy takes the young girl into a forest? and she begins talking
again. The young girl's name is Daisy. The only other information I
have is that the cover had a picture of a house in the background. I
have tried numerous keyword searches and subject searches in our catalog
with no success. I don't even know where else to look. Does this sound
familiar to anyone? Please e-mail me directly if you know the answer:
kimf@mail.orion.org
Thanks,
Kim Flores
Springfield Greene County Library
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