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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 1:53 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 257


    PUBYAC Digest 257

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: professional dress for librarians
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
  2) Storytime theme website
by Peggy Carter <pcarter@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
  3) RE: professional dress for librarians
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
  4) Re: professional dress for librarians
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
  5) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Lisa <lisasjournal@yahoo.com>
  6) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
  7) teen surveys
by Nicole Marcucilli <nmarc@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
  8) Students writing
by Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
  9) Asterix series
by "children johnson city public library" <jcplkids@hotmail.com>
 10) Re: professional dress for librarians
by karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
 11) Re: Listservs
by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
 12) Re: New magazines
by janafine01@sprynet.com
 13) Re: faculty meeting visits
by janafine01@sprynet.com
 14) Re: reference question
by "Look, Lin" <llook@mail.contra-costa.lib.ca.us>
 15) Re: Warning in book?
by "Earl and Kirsten Martindale" <earlmart@bellsouth.net>
 16) Re: Native American Book
by "Susan Graf" <susangraf27@hotmail.com>
 17) RE: List of listservs
by "Victoria G. Dworkin" <dworkin@hawaii.rr.com>
 18) Harry Potter Food
by "Jennifer Bromann" <bromannj@hotmail.com>
 19) Re: junie b. jones issue
by Heather James <hjames@cityof.lawton.ok.us>
 20) Re:Appropriate dress
by Susie Mcelfresh <susiemac89@yahoo.com>
 21) professional dress
by DGPL Junior Room <dgjrrm@sls.lib.il.us>
 22) Re: professional dress for librarians
by "Gail Roberts" <groberts@sailsinc.org>
 23) Re: reference questions
by ILefkowitz@aol.com
 24) Historical Fiction Discussion
by "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
 25) Re: Chairs made of books
by piresm@hhpl.on.ca (Mary Pires)
 26) Re: Chairs made of books
by Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
 27) Jumping into the "My Heart"  fray
by "andrea " <juvserv@dialup.customnet.com>
 28) RE: Warning in book?
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
 29) professional dress
by "Jan Gilgore" <jgilg@nioga.org>
 30) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Holly Belli <hbelliwcpl@yahoo.com>
 31) RE: professional dress for librarians
by Amy Stultz <AStultz@ci.leesburg.fl.us>
 32) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
 33) Re: junie b. jones issue
by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
 34) re: professional dress
by "Sean P. S. George" <sgeorge@stcharles.lib.la.us>
 35) holiday party
by Deborah McClish <Deborah@rockford.lib.il.us>
 36) Halloween story
by "Lori Osmon" <loriosmon@hotmail.com>
 37) book/reading club
by "melissa Brown" <somanykids@hotmail.com>
 38) RE: shelflists
by Nora Liederbach <NLiederbach@imcpl.lib.in.us>

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:38:16 CDT


In my suburban library, our clothes vary by the person and by the activity.
Mine go anywhere from khaki pants and a polo or crew-neck shirt, to slacks
and sweaters, to dresses and jumpers, to the occasional suit or business-y
outfit.  Depends on my mood that day and what I have in store.  Storytime
days tend to be more casual/washable/crawl-on-the-floor-able clothes, while
other days it depends.  If I have a big program at the Civic Center, it
means moving tables so I will probably dress down a little.

This library is a bit dressier than others I've worked at; we are not
permitted to wear open-toed or -heeled shoes without hose, and jeans of any
color are frowned upon (previous employers have said no blue jeans, or have
made no rules at all regarding jeans).  But it's still a pretty casual
workplace.  Although I will regularly wear a blazer, skirt & blouse, or
suit, that's more a matter of taste than of dress code.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

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From: Peggy Carter <pcarter@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Storytime theme website
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:15:21 CDT

-- [ From: Peggy Carter * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --

I just found out about a great website to help plan storytimes.  It has
songs, fingerplays, flannelboard stories, craft ideas, etc. as well as book
lists, video titles and cassettes related to different storytime themes.  It
lists about 50 different themes.  The site is called Nuttin But Kids and the
URL is http://www.nuttinbutkids.com 

Peggy Carter
Caldwell County Public Library

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:41:21 CDT



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Shtulman [SMTP:shtulman@erving.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:30 PM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
>
> I'm curious to know:  Has anyone questioned your professionalism as a
> result
> of your dress?
>
-----------------------------------------
No, but in my previous job, when I was a young-faced 24-year-old
library director, I found that I was less likely to get mistaken for a page
if I dressed up a bit.  No one ever said anything to me about it, but there
was at least a weak pattern to it.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:06:36 CDT


Our only dress code at our library is no jeans or shorts. I have actually
had mother's comment that they like it when the librairians wear fun shirts,
Dr. Seuss, Holiday sweatshirts, etc. They said it makes the children's
department have a welcome and fun atmoshpere.

Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Lisa <lisasjournal@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:21:55 CDT

A few weeks
> ago a patron complained
> about the way I dress, so I went to Good Will and
> bought some long, dowdy
> skirts and jumpers.  They make me feel fat and put
> me in a bad mood, though.
>
 
What was their complaint??

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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:37:17 CDT

The way I figure it, since Mr. Rogers is my role model, his wardrobe is good
enough for me; I am not impressed by what purports to be sartorial progress.
I
haven't got to the point where I put on my slippers for storytime yet, but
I'm
thinking about it real serious.  Let's hear it for maximum comfort at work.

Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.

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From: Nicole Marcucilli <nmarc@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: teen surveys
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:53:10 CDT

I am interested in doing a teen survey to be filled out by teens in our
library, specifically in our teen corner area.  What I am looking to do is
get an idea of the needs of teens in our area, and what they want in terms
of library services and materials.  Has anyone else done a survey like
this?  If so, suggestions or even a sample would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Nicole Marcuccilli
YA Librarian
Glenview (IL) Public Library

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From: Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Students writing
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:08:45 CDT


I have a teacher who wants a list of magzines/other sources which publish
students stories.  The student is a grade 8 girl.

We have suggested New Moon, Reluctant Hero, weblinks from the Internet
Public Libraries Youth Division, and a list produced by the Canadian
Children's Book Centre. 

Can anyone suggest other places?  If non-Canadian titles they would have
to accept material from students in Canada.

Thanks very much for your help.  I will post a complete list of the
results.

Claire Isaac
Children's Collection Coordinator
Regina, Saskatchewan

 

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From: "children johnson city public library" <jcplkids@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Asterix series
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:24:36 CDT

Do any of you have the Asterix series in your library?  We have one in the
adult collection that has had several circs.  We are considering ordering
more and possibly putting them in YA.  I haven't been able to find any
reviews but have heard they are very popular in other areas.  If you have
any experience with this series, please email me at bcobb@jcpl.net. TIA!

Betty Cobb
Youth Services Librarian
Johnson City, TN


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From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:39:31 CDT


I don't remember reading the original question on
professional dress for librarians but how I dress
depends on what's on the calendar that day.  If a
class is visiting or I am going to a school, I will
"dress-up" (suit & heels).  On other days I usually
wear a pants outfit, skirt & top or just nice pants &
blouse or sweater with nice shoes.

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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Listservs
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:54:40 CDT


I like Stumpers, although the mail volume is intense.
Lorie O'Donnell, MLS
Children's Librarian
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY  13440

-- Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
- Elbert Hubbard

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From: janafine01@sprynet.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: New magazines
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:10:03 CDT

OKay, the reason for that is there are little new magazines directed at
diverse populations.  So we thought people might not know about black beat
or latingirl. 

Jana Fine

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From: janafine01@sprynet.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: faculty meeting visits
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:26:10 CDT

I have a 3 page handout that lists:
Front page - what the library can do for the staff - from outreach in the
school doing programs to the state video collection to teachers calling up
ahead of time with requests for books for the classroom.
Center page - names, addresses, phone numbers, and emails of youth staff
back page - list of library activities that they or their students and the
families would enjoy

jana Fine
Clearwater

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From: "Look, Lin" <llook@mail.contra-costa.lib.ca.us>
To: "'PUBYAC--LISTSERV'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: reference question
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:41:44 CDT


I got a question this morning from a sweet-voiced lady:  "Do you always have

to use an area code in faxing something?"  Right off the bat, I answered
her, "It's like a phone call, if it's local, you don't have to add the area
code."  That seemed to satisfy her, but later, in thinking about this
discussion, I wondered how I would have backed it up with a print source.  I

have no idea where our fax machine handbook might be!

So, would that have counted as a reference question? ;-)

Lin Look
Contra Costa County, CA
llook@mail.contra-costa.lib.ca.us

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From: "Earl and Kirsten Martindale" <earlmart@bellsouth.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Warning in book?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:56:57 CDT


I agree that disapproval of one book seems to indicate approval of all
unmarked books. Labeling of any sort seems risky.

Kirsten Martindale
Buford, GA


> >Regarding placing a notice in the front of My Heart Is on the Ground
> >telling patrons about its potential inaccurate information and the
> >controversy surrounding it: I find this very disturbing

> Thanks, Diane, for bringing up this point.  I, too would be
> interested in other opinions.
>

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From: "Susan Graf" <susangraf27@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Native American Book
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:12:15 CDT



Here, here, Grace.

I did not order this book to place in our library collection. We do not have

a copy of _The Education of Little Tree_  I believe strongly that we, as
book selectors for our communities and for young people, have a
responsibility to provide ACCURATE, non-stereotypical information. If we do
not have the culturally diverse experience to determine such accuracy, then
we turn to reviewers such as OYATE for the information we need. And we
demand quality and accuracy from authors and publishers.



Susan Graf
Family Services Librarian
North Las Vegas Library District
2300 Civic Center Drive
North Las Vegas, NV  89030
(702)633-1070 FX (702)649-2576
susangraf27@hotmail.com

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From: "Victoria G. Dworkin" <dworkin@hawaii.rr.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: List of listservs
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:31:28 CDT

I'm a librarian who is not currently working in a library while I am working
on my Ph.D.  I've recently joined pubyac and YALSA-BKS in preparation for a
job interview as I think about getting back into libraries now that I am ABD
(al but dissertation).

I also have two favorite lists that have been essential to me as a grad
student whose fields include storytelling and children's literature.  Both
lists have many librarian participants, even though they are intended for a
broader audience than just librarians.  I highly recommend both as valuable
for most children's librarians.

The first is Storytell - a high volume listserv for anyone interested in
oral storytelling.  Instructions for subscribing are available at the Texas
Woman's University School of Library and Information Studies website at:
http://twu.edu/slis/ls/services/storytll.htm.  This list is my lifeline.

To subscribe, send a message to: LISTSERV@VENUS.TWU.EDU.  Leave subject
blank. In body of message, put <Subscribe Storytell your name>.  To post to
the list, send mail to STORYTELL@VENUS.TWU.EDU.  You must be subscribed to
post.


The other is Child_lit, a listserv for the critical discussion of children's
literature that combines academics, librarians, teachers, authors,
illustrators, publishers, and retailers.  For information, check the website
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mjoseph/childlit/about.html.

To subscribe, send a message to LISTSERV@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU.  Leave subject
blank.  In the body of the message put <Subscribe Child_lit>.  To post to
the list, send mail to CHILD_LIT@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU.

Vicky Dworkin
Ph. D. candidate in American Studies, student of storytelling
University of Hawai`i at Manoa
dworkin@hawaii.edu



-----Original Message-----
From:  Cathy Norman
 Subject: List of listservs & My Heart Is On the Ground

Dear all -
As soon as everyone has had a chance to answer the query about listservs
(which one's do you subscribe to besides PUBYAC?) i will post the list to
the list (over ubder and around the list).  I am giving everyone until next
week to answer.  Please send instruction for joining with your
recommendations.  Thanks.

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From: "Jennifer Bromann" <bromannj@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Harry Potter Food
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:46:20 CDT

We are having our second Harry Potter Party and I would like to have
different food, candy or beverages this time, but can't remember any.  We
had gummy frogs and every flavor jelly beans.  I also thought there was some

kind of drink someone made for a program.  Please help give me ideas of what

they eat in Harry Potter and how you made your own version.  Thanks.

Jennifer Bromann
Head of Youth Services
Prairie Trails Public Library
Burbank, IL
bromannj@hotmail.com

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From: Heather James <hjames@cityof.lawton.ok.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: junie b. jones issue
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:02:00 CDT


> When a parent basically is determined to raise his/her children in what
> amounts
> to a moral/ intellectual/educational closet where no dissenting or
> alternative
> voices are permitted to be heard I'm not so sure that what we're seeing is
> democracy in action. Talking about your own beliefs and living them out is
> one
> thing, and a fine one - attempting to shield your children from exposure
to
> all
> other beliefs and viewpoints is perhaps less commendable.

But a parent's right nonetheless.

James

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From: Susie Mcelfresh <susiemac89@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re:Appropriate dress
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:17:24 CDT

I wear jumpers- they are comfortable, loose and have pockets. After finding
out how much it costs to buy them, I decided that I should put all of those
years of home ec to good use (in spite of the fact I spent most of the class
time using a seam ripper). I found a simple pattern (and I mean simple- no
darts, buttons or zippers) and had a friend sit with me while I made the
first one. I make them out of calico prints (which are generally on sale and
you can buy them pretty cheap) that catch my eye.  I also pick the material
that goes with my storytime themes and holidays. I discovered it was easier
to cut 3 or 4 out at once and spend  a couple of weekends, a couple times a
year making them. You can wear little t-shirts or turtle necks under them
and make them big so they are really comfortable (I also make them kind of
long- I can sit on the floor or climb on a table and not worry). Now that
I'm expecting they'll come in handy because they are loose enough that I
should be abl!
e to wear them most of the way through (I hope). I usually wear white ankle
socks and sneakers with them (I wouldn't be caught dead in a pair of heels).
Good luck!

Suzanne McElfresh
susiemac89@yahoo.com

 

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From: DGPL Junior Room <dgjrrm@sls.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: professional dress
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:32:42 CDT

The following are my two cents on what is appropriate for work:

I hate the idea of  the "frumpy librarian".  I say break the mold!  Wearing
comfortable clothes doesn't mean you should look like a stereotype.

There are times when I wear three inch heals.  (Hey, I even Shake My
Sillies Out in them.)  There are also times when I am dressed to climb
ladders and paint signs, but I look like good.  It isn't hard to maintain a
professional standard, even on my salary.

Breaking the mold daily,

Sharon L.

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From: "Gail Roberts" <groberts@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:47:36 CDT

I'm from the Lands End/L.L. Bean fashion school.  The clothes must be
comfortable and wear like iron, while being reasonably priced for the
quality (so I admit it--I'm a Yankee!), and conform to the City dress code
(no jeans, shorts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, etc.).  So it's khaki's, chinos,
long cotton knit skirts, Henley tops, and so forth.  I dress in layers when
going to visit a school; they're always too warm.  For shoes, unless I'm
going to a meeting, I wear topsiders.  When feet the size of mine hurt, it's
misery.  I'm enjoying this discussion, but I have a question: where are you
folks finding purple high-tops?

"The soul is healed by being with children."
Dostoevsky

Gail E. Roberts
groberts@sailsinc.org
Coordinator of Youth Services
New Bedford Free Public Library
New Bedford, MA  02740

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From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: reference questions
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:02:47 CDT

Okay, I take it back!  Questions such as where are the books on Germany
aren't directional but are reference.  Please don't beat me up.  Consider it

pregnancy induced  mind-fog. 

Ilene Lefkowitz
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Olive Public Library (NJ)
ILefkowitz@aol.com

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From: "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Historical Fiction Discussion
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:17:55 CDT

Dear All...
This whole debate weighs heavily.  I find it haunting me - the thigs I've
said and the things others have said.  And it just struck me as I was
walking into the stacks that I had always considered Ms. Rinaldi a fine
historical fiction author.  I have recommended her books often.  In the same

vein, I have trusted Scholastic to provide the best in children's/young
adult literature.  And now I am questioning both those beliefs.
I believe that it is my responsibility to read as much children's/ya
literature as possible.  I'm not even sure I can read a book longer than 150

pages anymore (if you don't count Goblet of Fire).  As you all know there is

a great deal of literature to read and it would be impossible to read it
all.  Thus, we make judgement calls - Scholastic and Rinaldi were two of the

things I felt confident recommending highly without having read every single

page.  Now I feel that I can't do that.  Disheartening.
Does anyone know of Scholastic's and Rinaldi's response to the criticism
received? Let me know, please.  You may e-mail me off list if this is old
news.  thanks.

Cathy Norman
Youth Services Librarian
Fairport Harbor
Public Library (OH)
csn71650@hotmail.com

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From: piresm@hhpl.on.ca (Mary Pires)
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Chairs made of books
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:33:12 CDT

I believe what you were looking for may be in an ad in Child Magazine,
October
2000 issue.
On page 15 there is a picture of a chair and a stool that are made to look
like
open books.
They are "from June Bug Rockers" and the address and phone number listed are
www.coolchairs.com and 508-384-6486.

Hope the helps, Mary

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From: Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Chairs made of books
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:48:07 CDT

I too saw a picture of a chair and footstool with soft
cushions made to look like books.  the picture I saw
was in the Oct. issue of Child Magazine.  It gave a
web site, www.coolchairs.com, and a phone number,
1-508-384-6486.  Hope it was the same picture.

=====
Suzanne Kirk
Henry County Public Library
172 Eminence Terrace
Eminence KY  40019
Ph 502-845-5682
Fax 502-845-4807
e-mail Suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com

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From: "andrea " <juvserv@dialup.customnet.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Jumping into the "My Heart"  fray
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:03:21 CDT

Just to jump into the exchange about putting information in books---

The Jean Craighead George book called _How To Talk To Your Dog_ contains no
warnings at all about getting eye level to a strange dog.  It is otherwise a
FANTASTIC book (and my 8mo puppy thinks so too!) about communicating in dog
language. 

I did not feel comfortable putting this book on the shelf as-is.  I added a
computer-printed warning that I wrote telling children never to use the
book's tecniques with a strange or unpredicatble dog.

I felt this was the only way to have children access a wonderful title and
put my own mind at ease, and hopefully keep children safer than they would
be.

Feedback?  Is this an acceptable use of "labeling" a book?  I don't expect
everyone to agree, but I don't expect disrespectful answers either...even if
you think I made a huge mistake, please realize that I did it with
children's safety in mind.

Andrea Terry
juvserv@customnet.com

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'espicer@triton.net'" <espicer@triton.net>, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Warning in book?
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:22:52 CDT


A lot of libraries have a public file for patron book reviews.  Ours are
kept in a 3-ring binder; some libraries keep them in a card file; some post
them on a bulletin board or something.  I don't know how many of these
review files have been created for the purpose of registering information
about "objectionable books"; I've usually seen them used more as a
self-service readers' advisory tool.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ES/AP [SMTP:espicer@triton.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:52 PM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: Warning in book?
>
> I wonder if this is an opportunity to allow patron's and staff a voice
> without compromising the spirit of intellectual freedom and democratic
> belief? Is it possible to generate a journal of some sort that is kept in
> the reference section (possibly a three ring binder) in which patrons are
> allowed to record information about objectionable books? Perhaps a form of
> some sort that files by title (or author or both?) in which other readers
> (but not library staff? or also library staff?) records information about
> books like MY HEART IS ON THE GROUND. Perhaps a sign or some way of
> letting patrons know to ask about what other readers have to say about a
> particular title, if anything? I'm brainstorming here--trying to find some
> way to deal with awful books without compromising the freedom to select
> and use materials freely and privately in a neutral setting. Also trying
> to find a way to allow folks to feel like they have some say about
> controversial books like HARRY POTTER without also granting the right to
> censor or dictate collection specifications. Just a quick thought that may
> not hold up to scrutiny. Has anyone done anything like this?
>
> Ed

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From: "Jan Gilgore" <jgilg@nioga.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: professional dress
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:37:59 CDT

Our dress code says business casual.  That seemed very open to me when I got
here so I asked,  I was told no jeans, shorts, tank tops, sneakers, or open
sandals with bare feet.   (  Which seems to be the style now no matter what
the season)  We have had some problems with pages and I still have one clerk
who wears things allowed she just wears them to tight.  I find since we are
small and I may be anywhere at anytime that soft knit dresses that are
washable work best.   Dress slacks or dockers for story hour days.  If I
have to go to the system for a meeting I'll break out the suit .
Jan Gilgore
Youngstown Free Library
Youngstown NY 14174
jgilg@nioga.org

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From: Holly Belli <hbelliwcpl@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:52:57 CDT

I believe that how we dress is a reflection of our
professionalism.  To wear tee shirts, shorts, and
jeans to work does nothing for our image as the highly
educated professionals we know we are.  We can't
expect to be paid the higher salaries we are entitled
to if other professionals and the general public view
us as little more than day care workers.  Like it or
not, our dress conveys a message about who we are and
how seriously we take our careers.  I personally wear
dresses, jumpers, or blazers and pants to work every
day.  Children are drawn to me by my demeanor, not by
my clothes.  I think we do ourselves a disservice when
we dress too casually for work.  It's hard enough to
get appreciated in this profession when we are well
dressed.

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Holly Belli
Head, Children's Services
West Caldwell Public Library, NJ

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From: Amy Stultz <AStultz@ci.leesburg.fl.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:07:59 CDT


Hey ya'll,

Comfortable is the only way to go.  Jeanne Smith said she was waiting for
the inevitable vomit.  I've been there.  I don't wear dry clean clothes to
storytime anymore. 

My library is in Central Florida.  We native Floridians gave up fancy
dressing a while ago.  I wear easy to clean skirts sometimes.  On Fridays I
wear jeans.  The rest of the time I wear chinos, washable blouses, and Dr.
Scholl's Shoes (available from the men's department at Wal-mart).  Stylish?
Maybe not but I can walk at the end of the day.

Amy Stultz
Children's Librarian
Leesburg Public Library, FL
AStultz@ci.leesburg.fl.us



Comfortable is my middle name!  I believe in being neat, color coordinated
(at least I try!) and comfortable.  I too am a children's librarian and my
one rule is - no dry cleanable clothes, I figure it is just a matter of
time before a child throws up on me!  Your library may have a dress code.
We cannot wear shorts in the summer or blue jeans at any time.  Common
sense plays a role here too.  Hope I was of some help.

Jeanne Smith
Cromaine District Library
Hartland, MI

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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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I second SAS shoes; I have high arches, plantar fasciitis, and a coupla old
dancing injuries. I need shoes which accomodate all my insert gear. I also
have one great pair of Skechers, VERY boxy toe and thick soles. I did not
know
they were trendy when I bought them for 50% off -- the kids think they're
great. How nice that sensible shoes are once more fashionable.

>  I highly recommend SAS shoes.  They're professional, attractive and very,
> very comfortable.  And expensive, of course, but worth it.
>
> -Maggi Rohde, who likes long skirts and vests
>  Public Serivces Librarian
>  Milan Public Library

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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: junie b. jones issue
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He replies - what a sad state of affairs it is that physical abuse is the
only
kind that we are willing /able to protect kids from, when the mental and
emotional varieties can also leave lifelong scars.  So often they deserve a
great deal better than they get, and what could have been a beautiful human
being winds up a pitiful shell of what could have been.

Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.

Carol Leeson wrote:

> Chuck,  I would agree with you on your opinion of good parenting.  As a
> parent I would much rather prepare my child to make sound judgements when
> he is faced with information, action or pressure that goes contrary to the
> principles that we have tried to teach him.  As a librarian however (or as
> a neighbor, a friend or even a Sunday School Teacher) I do not believe it
> is my obligation or my right to interfere with another parent's choice of
> parenting style.  If I witness or suspect physical abuse that is a
> different story.
>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> ++++++++++
>
> Carol Leeson
> Head of Youth Services
> Mount Prospect Public Library
> 10 S. Emerson
> Mt. Prospect, Il 60056
> (847)253-5675
> cleeson@mppl.org
>
> The opinions expressed here are my own and do not reflect those of the
> Library.

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From: "Sean P. S. George" <sgeorge@stcharles.lib.la.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: re: professional dress
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:53:00 CDT

As someone else mentioned, in our system we have "optional uniforms" which
consist of polo style shirts that have the library logo embroidered in the
upper left quadrant.  These are for professional as well as
paraprofessional staff, and we have had a lot of positive feedback on them
from the public.  They are optional because the library does not issue
them, i.e., each staff member must purchase their own if they want to wear
them.  Our director has approved us to buy pretty much any solid color we
like (she has made it clear that she won't go for the neon colors however)
with any appropriate color for the embroidery.  So each person can still be
"individual" in their color selections within the framework of the
"uniform."  Some departments/branches coordinate their color selections for
particular days of the week or other occasions, but that is not actually a
directive from the administration, just a preference of those
branches/departments.

>From my personal perspective, working with both young kids and teens at
different times, I think the somewhat informal look of these "uniform"
shirts makes me and other staff more approachable, and easily identifiable,
to the kids and teens.  There are times when I still wear shirt and tie for
specific situations, e.g. presentations to the parish council or other
organizations, etc.  They have been a win/win situation for our system.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sean P. S. George
Youth Services Coordinator
St. Charles Parish (LA) Library
504-785-8464

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From: Deborah McClish <Deborah@rockford.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: holiday party
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Good Morning everyone,

I'm in the process of planning a staff holiday party and would like your
imput.  Traditionally, we've had to pay to attend our library's holiday
party and have had low interest and low attendance.  I would like to plan
something that staff will want to come to.  We have about 125 staff total.
What I would like to know is what, if anything, do your libraries do in the
way of a staff holiday party?  Do staff have to pay to come?  Is it a full
dinner or just finger foods?  How much does it cost per person? When do you
have it?  Etc.  Anything you all can share with me will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks so much for the help.  This is a wonderful resource.

Please email me off list at deborah@rockford.lib.il.us.  I'll be happy to
post my results, if anyone's interested.

Thanks again,

Deborah McClish
Librarian, Youth Services
Rockford (IL) Public Library
deborah@rockford.lib.il.us

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From: "Lori Osmon" <loriosmon@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Halloween story
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Does anyone know the title of a Halloween story that goes something as
follows.   The story is read and as it is read different sacks are passed
around.  Jelly in a sack to stand for a heart, another sack is then passed
that holds cooked spagehetti for someother body part, grapes for eyebalss is

passed in another sack, etc.

If this rings a bell please e-mail me the title, author, and/or the entire
story.  Thanks, Lori    E-mail is loriosmon@hotmail.com
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From: "melissa Brown" <somanykids@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: book/reading club
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:38:02 CDT

I am the school librarian for a medium school JK-8 I would like to host a
book club or reading club but I am lost as to ideas etc. I imagine with the
wide variety of ages I will have to split the school into two seperate
groups. Any info. as to books and how to would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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From: Nora Liederbach <NLiederbach@imcpl.lib.in.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: shelflists
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:52:53 CDT


Kathy,
Our library system went on line in the mid '80's.  There was much discussion
at the time about the shelf list, but we did not keep one.  I thought that I
would miss it tremendously.  I have not thought of one use for it since we
went online.  What I do miss, however [and this is the same for catalog
cards] is what I got from filing the cards.  I could remember call numbers,
etc. and that was very helpful.  And as for weeding it was easier to take
the shelf list to the books instead of the books to the computer, but I do
like what the computer tells me about the books, how many copies are checked
out, number of circs. etc.  You know the drill.  I will be interested in
what people who still have shelflists think.

Nora Lee Liederbach
Riley Room Service Section, Central Library
Indianapolis-Marion County Public Library

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