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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
& Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 304
PUBYAC Digest 304
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: Children's library card registrations
by Celeste Fong <CMFong@ci.ontario.ca.us>
2) Re: Help on parents and siblings in storytime.
by "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
3) Re: Children's library card registrations
by Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
4) FW: Curious George Question
by Julie James <JJames@lva.lib.va.us>
5) Re: Children's library card registrations
by d.f.vaden@att.net
6) Riddle
by "Children" <children@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
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From: Celeste Fong <CMFong@ci.ontario.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Children's library card registrations
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:28:13 CST
We require parent or guardian to sign as well as fill out driver's license
no. on the form. Unless the grandmother, aunt, etc. is the legal guardian,
they cannot sign for the card. Parents & guardians are financially
responsible for the materials. A child must either have a driver's license
or be 18 to sign for his own card. We do not have a separate children's
card with separate limits.
Celeste Fong
Librarian
South Ontario Branch Library
2403-D Vineyard Ave.
Ontario, CA 91761
(909) 395-2251
Fax: (909) 930-0836
cmfong@ci.ontario.ca.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Monaghan [mailto:monaghanm@carnegielibrary.org]
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:05 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Children's library card registrations
Hello.
Thanks to everyone who has been responding to my question about charging
library fines. The information has been extremely helpful. Another
question:
What are your policies for children's library card registration? I am
looking for all input, but particularly on these topics: Do you require
a parent's signature? At what age can a patron sign for their own card?
Can a grandmother, aunt or uncle get a child a library card? Who is
financially responsible for the materials? Do you have a separate
"children's" card and if so what are its limits?
Thank you,
Mary Monaghan
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
Youth Strategy Group
4400 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412.578.2601
412.688.8617 fax
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From: "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Help on parents and siblings in storytime.
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:41:12 CST
Hi!
Bravo to you for changing your formats to be more age appropriate! I
feel that in this way, many parents can be subtly taught about age
differences.
Our library normally lets any/all ages come into our programs. We are
delighted to see parents who want to come! That doesn't mean they are
always good in keeping their other children (or themselves) under
control! RARELY do we try to keep others out of the programs. I
usually
tell the parents that the other children will probably be bored, since
the age we're targeting is "X". A good way to get others to
understand
about developmentally appropriate themes is to have a program for the
parents WHILE there's a program going on for the children. The children
would probably need to be at least 4's or 5's for this to happen and you
not to lose your mind!
Unfortunately, many of the people who don't understand about age
appropriate themes usually aren't the ones who are willing to be taught
about it.
Hope this is of help to you!
Karen Gardner
Anderson Public Library
Anderson, IN 46016
kgardner@and.lib.in.us
-----Original Message-----
From: "Jean Nichols" <jean@clarksville.org>
Subject: Help on parents and siblings in storytime.
> Help me please,
>
> We moved into a new building three years ago and just like Kevin
> Costner
> and the baseball field, we built it and they have come! Storytime had
> gotten to the point of utter chaos with moms talking and being rude,
> older siblings bored out of their mind and infants crying and squirming
> and on and on.
>
> So this year we changed the format of our program. We now have a
> lapsit
> for infants, two's and three's program and a four&five year old
> program. The catch is that we ask that siblings, that are not of the
> appropriate age group, not to come to the program. Now we have moms
> complaining that they can't bring the other kids, they can't come
> in....etc.
>
> Has anyone out there done this???? What are your defenses? Do you have
> "age appropriate" programming at your library or do you just try
to
> please everyone? I know that the quality of the programs has improved
> beyond measure and the children are actually getting something out of
> the programs. But, how do you handle the moms that don't understand
> that each child needs their own level of programing and it is their
> right to be able to enjoy some quality time together with their mom or
> dad?
>
> Thanks for your help or tell me to go back to chaos...
> Jean
>
>
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From: Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Children's library card registrations
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:50:11 CST
Our policy is about to change to say that anyone under 18 years of age must
be accompanied by a parent in order to get a card. The parent must have
photo I.D. and proof of address. The parent must have a card in good
standing, or get one. Information about the parent will be entered on the
child's record. Under consideration is a requirement that only the
custodial parent can get the child a card. Obviously our library is in a
community that has a lot of broken and blended families, and children who
are moved frequently. Do people find this a bit grim?
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From: Julie James <JJames@lva.lib.va.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: FW: Curious George Question
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Followup to Curious George question:
I received many PUBYAC replies, but remained unconvinced, so I wrote to Dee
Jones, curator of the de Grummond Collection at the University of Southern
Mississippi, which holds the papers of H.A. and Margret Rey. See Dee's
answer below.
For more information about the de Grummond Collection
http://www.lib.usm.edu/~degrum/
and see their virtual exhibit here
http://www.lib.usm.edu/~degrum/virtualtour/opener.htm
Very interesting! I love George even more.
Julie
-----Original Message-----
From: Dee Jones
To: Julie James
Sent: 11/18/00 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Curious George Question
Julie,
You are correct. There are some early versions of George with a tail.
The
name Zozo was used in editions published in England shortly after the
King's
name was George and not wanting to offend anyone, it was changed to Zozo
and
remains that way even today in British editions. I have heard through
secondary sources that H.A. Rey said that George was a composite of
various
types of monkeys, chimps, etc. therefore could have or not have any
charcacteristics. I have heard others speculate that the tail might have
been a negative design element in the illustrations and the drawings
looked
better without it.
Hope this answers your question.
Dee Jones
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From: d.f.vaden@att.net
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Children's library card registrations
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:08:06 CST
The Irving Public allows children to get a temporary
library card that allows them to check out two items.
They must know basic information like address, birthday,
phone number, etc. An aunt, brother, etc., can help
with this. Then, a letter is sent to the guardians of
the child alerting them to the fact that the child
received a temporary library card. They must call to
activate the card and make it a permanent card. If the
card is never activated, the library can continue
renewing the temporary card allowing the child to have
two items checked out at a time.
I think this is a wonderful plan and seems to be working
well. Our Director suggested it and we are considering
expanding it for adult customers who forget or do not
have their ID on them.
Debbie
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From: "Children" <children@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Riddle
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:17:03 CST
Does anyone know the answer to the riddle: What kind of bees produce milk?
A library user says she found this riddle in one of our juvenile riddle
books, but can't remember which one OR the answer! We have had no luck so
far.
Sue Sherif
Fairbanks North Star Boroug Public Library
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