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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 326
PUBYAC Digest 326
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) NOTICE: advance notice of Listproc hiatus
by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
2) Rock and Roll tapes for children that I really like
by Kate McLean <mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us>
3) Re: internet use in bibliography
by "Liz Gruchala-Gilbert" <elizabethegg@hotmail.com>
4) Hooked on Phonics
by Kathy Saxton <ksaxton@wepl.lib.oh.us>
5) Re: internet use in bibliography
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
6) Re: March Break Program
by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
7) The Reading Mother/by Strickland Gillian
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
8) Re: School-Public Library Cooperation
by EGreen3792@aol.com
9) You know you're a children's librarian when
by bonnie webster <msbonnie2562@yahoo.com>
10) Re: comic books
by Sushila Mertens <kidlit_2000@yahoo.com>
11) Re: internet use in bibliography
by Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
12) Re: just for fun: You Know You're In Childrens' When...
by Carolyn Jones <carolyn@eastern.erl.vic.gov.au>
13) BIB: Cinderella retellings
by "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
14) STUMPER
by "Webster, Lisa" <LisaW@ci.mount-vernon.wa.us>
15) STUMPER: novel about South Africa
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
16) STUMPER: solved-Fripsey family?
by BOGART Debra <dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us>
17) STUMPER-pod children
by Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
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From: "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: NOTICE: advance notice of Listproc hiatus
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From: Kate McLean <mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Rock and Roll tapes for children that I really like
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:46:39 CST
I've come in at the tail end of this "rock n' roll conversation but... I've
had a wonderful time with a line of children's tapes (& CD's) made by a
company called Sugar Beats. The tapes have songs that parents know sung by
an adult singer and some children singers too. They have quite a few tapes
out, I have 4 of them and play them prior to storytime while we're waiting
to start and during crafts and such. Parents sing along and they share
songs they know with their children! My favorite one has Everyday
People,
Put A Little Love In Your Heart, Groovin', Rockin' Robin, Stay, Do Wah
Diddy, ABC, Twist and Shout, Lean On Me, and Shout! Sorry for the
commercialism but if you're interested they have a web site at
sugar-beats.com.
Just my 2 cents,
Kate McLean
Tucker-Reid H. Cofer Library
DeKalb County Public Libraries, GA
mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us
"My opinions are my own."
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From: "Liz Gruchala-Gilbert" <elizabethegg@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: internet use in bibliography
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It depends on what style you are using...
See:
http://www.mla.org/www_mla_org/style/style_main.asp?level=2&mode=page&page=1
&link=sty72800121438§ion=sty51800124510
and
http://www.apa.org/journals/webref.html
-Liz
>From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: internet use in bibliography
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:52:13 CST
>
>Does anyone know the proper way to cite a website in a
>bibliography? TIA
>
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Part-Time Librarian and Freelance Researcher
Medaille College
Buffalo, NY
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From: Kathy Saxton <ksaxton@wepl.lib.oh.us>
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Subject: Hooked on Phonics
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Hello Collective Brain,
We just received two new sets of Hooked on Phonics, divided and ready to
circulate by level. We have them on the regular two week loan period
and have had a couple of complaints that two weeks isn't long enough to
get through the level. For those of you out there that also circ these
kits, what is your loan period? Does it work for your patrons? Is
there a rough estimate to the amount of time it should take to work
through a level? I know each child will be a little different, but I'm
looking for a happy medium. Thanks for any advice you can impart!
Kathleen Saxton Roach
Children's Librarian
Willoughby Library
Willoughby, OH
kroach@wepl.lib.oh.us
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: internet use in bibliography
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:51:56 CST
This website will take you to examples in APA, MLA &
Turabian/Chicago style:
http://www.lib.cmich.edu/ocls/style/style.htm
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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Chuck responds - I've spent years enjoying "oldies" but they were
never
meant for kids - they were clearly for the hormonally enhanced highschool
set, in whose custody they should be left, IMHO. The longer kids can go
without having to start worrying about whether they have what it takes to
attract the OPPOSITE SEX, the better off and happier they'll be, to my
antedeluvian way of thinking, and the vast majority of rock and roll is
clearly opposite sex music, no matter how you slice it. Even without our
encouraging them to become grade school adolescents, their childhoods will
be over way too soon. Call Brittany's music what we will, the
message
that she and her ilk (don't you love that word?) clearly send is that a 10
year old girl's goal ought to be seeing how close she can get to passing
for 17, and promoting it does not appeal to me. Stepping down from
his
soap box...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
Kathleen Roach wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm responding to Chuck's concern about pushing rock and roll on kids
> too early. While I understand his point, I think there are "rock
'n
> roll" songs from the early years that are okay for the younger set and
> that they really like.
>
> Our summer reading theme two years ago was "Rock 'n Read."
We use a
> single theme and carry it out through children, young adult and adult
> programming. Here in the children's room, we concentrated on the
1950's
> rock'n roll music. We had several recordings of 50's and 60's songs
> that we played all summer and the kids really loved it! "Rockin'
Robin"
> was one of their favorites! There's a group called the Re-Bops that
has
> several recordings out.
>
> Our decorations were 50's-ish as well. Girls in poodle skirts at the
> local soda fountain listening to the juke-box, that sort of thing.
When
> we did school visits, we used our boy and girl puppet, dressed in 50's
> garb, and taught the kids the hand-jive. They remembered it all
summer,
> and some remembered it the next year when we went back for school
> visits!
>
> Much of the music written today wouldn't be appropriate for younger
> kids, but if you go back to the "old time rock and roll," you'll
find
> some goodies that today's kids will be glad they were exposed to!
>
> Thanks for allowing me my two cents!
>
> Kathleen Saxton Roach
> Children's Librarian
> Willoughby Library
> Willoughby, OH
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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: The Reading Mother/by Strickland Gillian
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:55:49 CST
I had a Mother who read to me
Sagas of pirates who scoured the sea,
Cutlasses clenched in their yellow teeth,
"Prisoners" stowed in the hold beneath.
I had a Mother who read me lays
Of ancient and gallant and golden days;
Stories of Marmion and Ivanhoe,
Which every boy has a right to know.
I had a Mother who read me tales
Of Gelert the hound of the hills of Wales--
True to his trust til his tragic death,
Faithfulness blent with his final breath.
I had a Mother who read me things
The wholesome life to the boy heart brings--
Stories that stir with an upward touch.
Oh, that each Mother of boys were such!
You may have tangible wealth untold;
Caskets of jewels and coffers of gold.
Richer than I you can never be--
I had a Mother who read to me.
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From: EGreen3792@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: School-Public Library Cooperation
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:57:50 CST
In Queens there is something called CLASP. That does exactly what you are
saying. I would call the Queens Central library for more information.
Elisa Greenstein
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From: bonnie webster <msbonnie2562@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: You know you're a children's librarian when
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:59:25 CST
you go through the garbage looking for useful things
to make things out of such as pretty catalog covers,
cardboard, etc. even lint from the clothes dryer
Bonnie programmer
Taylor Co. Public Library
Campbellsville, Ky.
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From: Sushila Mertens <kidlit_2000@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: comic books
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:00:46 CST
Tintin and the Asterix series have been going strong
for 16 years.
--- EGreen3792@aol.com wrote:
> I would like to know your opinion on comic books in
> the young adult or
> children's collection. I have looked at a number of
> research articles and
> texts on the subject but would like to hear from
> some librarians that
> include
> the genre in their collection. I would also be
> interested in finding out
> what
> comics are included, circulation rates, and where
> they are purchased.
>
> Elisa Greenstein
>
=====
Sushila Mertens kidlit_2000@yahoo.com
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From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
To: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: internet use in bibliography
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:02:12 CST
Karen,
Check out our library's homepage-www.kcls.org-under"homework help".
Under
"research skills" go to "citing internet sources".
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000,
karen maletz
wrote:
> Does anyone know the proper way to cite a website in a
> bibliography? TIA
>
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King County Library System
Fairwood Library
Renton, WA
Life's too short to read bad books or drink bad wine!
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From: Carolyn Jones <carolyn@eastern.erl.vic.gov.au>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: just for fun: You Know You're In Childrens' When...
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You know you're in childrens when you excitedly pounce on the
sequined shoes at the second hand clothing store.......even when
they dont fit you!!!!!
Carolyn Jones
Boronia Branch
Eastern Regional Libraries
Melbourne, Australia
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From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: BIB: Cinderella retellings
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Hi, all. A couple months ago many of you graciously helped me
find retellings of Cinderella for a paper I was working on. It appears
that Cinderella is in no danger of extinction! Here is my compiled
bibliography.
Novels and short stories for older kids--kids reading on their own:
Baker, Jennifer. At Midnight.
Block, Francesca Lia. "Glass" (in The Rose and the Beast, by
Block)
Colum, Padraic. The Girl Who Sat by the Ashes.
Donoghue, Emma. "The Tale of the Shoe" (in Kissing the Witch,
by Donoghue)
Farjeon, Eleanor. The Glass Slipper.
Haddix, Margaret Peterson. Just Ella.
Jukes, Mavis. Cinderella 2000.
Levine, Gail Carson. Ella Enchanted.
Loggia, Wendy. Ever After: A Cinderella Story (movie novelization)
Murphy, Shirley Rousseau. Silver Woven in My Hair.
Pullman, Philip. I Was a Rat.
Yolen, Jane. "The Moon Ribbon" (in The Moon Ribbon and Other
Tales, by Yolen; & Don't Bet on the Prince, ed. Zipes)
Yolen, Jane. "Cinder Elephant" (in A Wolf at the Door, eds
Datlow
& Windling)
These are all pretty clearly based on the Perrault Cinderella story.
A recent Espen Cinderlad variant in novella form is Cinderellis and
the Glass Mountain, by Gail Carson Levine.
And here are the picture books, featuring many different variants:
Buehner, Caralyn. Fanny's Dream
Climo, Shirley. The Egyptian Cinderella
Climo, Shirley. The Korean Cinderella
Climo, Shirley. The Persian Cinderella
Climo, Shirley. The Irish Cinderlad
Coburn, Jewell. Angkat : the Cambodian Cinderella
Coburn, Jewell. Jouanah, the Hmong Cinderella
Cohlene, Terri. Little Firefly: An Algonquin Legend
Cole, Babette. Prince Cinders.
Collins, Sheila. Cendrillon: A Cajun Cinderella
Compton, Joanne. Ashpet: An Appalachian Tale
Daly, Jude. Fair, Brown, and Trembling
Edwards, Pamela. Dinorella : a prehistoric fairy tale
Goode, Diane. Cinderella, the dog and her little glass slipper
Grauer, Rita. Vasalisa and Her Magic Doll
Greene, Ellin. Billy Beg and His Bull: An Irish Tale
Han, Oki. Kongi & Potgi: A Cinderella Story from Korea
Haddix, Margaret. Out of the cinders
Hickox, Rebecca. The golden sandal : a Middle Eastern Cinderella
Hooks, William. The Moss Gown.
Huck, Charlotte. Princess Furball
Huck, Charlotte. Toads and Diamonds
Jackson, Ellen. Cinder Edna
Jacobs, Joseph. Tattercoats
Jaffe, Nina. The way meat loves salt : a Cinderella tale from the
Jewish tradition
Johnston, Tony, 1942- Bigfoot Cinderrrrrella
Jungman, Ann. Cinderella and the Hot-Air Balloon
Ketteman, Helen. Bubba the Cowboy Prince: A Fractured Texas
Tale
Lattimore, Deborah. Cinderhazel : the Cinderella of Halloween
Louie, Ai-Ling: Yeh-shen, a Cinderella Tale from China
Lowell, Susan, 1950- Cindy Ellen : a wild western Cinderella
Martin, Claire. Boots and the Glass Mountain
Martin, Rafe. Rough-Face Girl
Mayer, Marianna. Baba, Yaga and Vasilisa the Brave
Meddaugh, Susan. Cinderella's Rat
Minters, Frances. Cinder-Elly
Murphy, Shirley. Silver Woven in My Har
Myers, Bernice. Sidney Rella and the Glass Sneaker
Nimmo, Jenny. The Starlight Cloak.
Onyefulu, Obi. Chinye: A West African Folk Tale
Osmond, Alan. If the Shoe Fits
Palazzo-Craig, Janet. Tam's slipper : a story from Vietnam
Perlman, Janet. Cinderella Penguin, or The Little Glass Slipper
Pollock, Penny. Turkey Girl: A Zuni Cinderella
San Souci, Robert. The Talking Eggs: a Folktale from the American
South
San Souci, Robert D. Cendrillon : a Caribbean Cinderella
San Souci, Robert D. Cinderella Skeleton
San Souci, Robert D. Little gold star : a Spanish American
Cinderella tale
San Souci, Robert D. Sootface : an Ojibwa Cinderella story
Sathre, Vivian. Slender Ella and Her Fairy Hogfather.
Schroeder, Alan. Smoky Mountain Rose : an Appalachian
Cinderella
Schroeder, Alan. Lily and the Wooden Bowl
Sheldon, Dyan. Alison and the Prince
Shorto, Russell. Cinderella : Cinderella the untold story
Silverman, Erica. Raisel's riddle
Sterel, Flora Annie. Tattercoats: An Old English Tale
Takayama, Sandi. Sumorella: A Hawaii Cinderella Story
Trussell-Cullen, Alan. The Real Cinderella Rap.
Wegman, William. Cinderella (dogs)
Whitney, Thomas. Vasalisa the Beautiful
Wilson, Barbara: Wishbones: A Folk Tale from China
Winthrop, Elizabeth. Vasalissa the Beautiful
Yorinks, Arthur. Ugh
2 useful reference tools are:
Cinderella, [collected] by Judy Sierra (Oryx multicultural folktale
series)
New Tales for Old: Folktales as Literary Fictions for Young Adults,
Anna Altmann & Gail DeVos
Plus 2 websites:
the SurLaLune annotated Cinderella page at
http://members.aol.com/surlalune/frytales/cinderel/index.htm
and the University of Southern Mississippi's Cinderella Project at
http://www-dept.usm.edu/~engdept/cinderella/cinderella.html
Many thanks to everyone, especially Cindy Rider, who supplied at
least 3/4 of this bibliography.
Vicky Smith
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us
Children's Librarian
McArthur Library
270 Main Street
Biddeford, ME 04005
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From: "Webster, Lisa" <LisaW@ci.mount-vernon.wa.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER
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I am looking for the title of a children's chapter book written in the
1960's or 1970's. It is about two children living secretly in the
Metropolitan Museum. She thought the title had "Mrs." in it.
Please respond to me directly.
lisaw@ci.mount-vernon.wa.us
Thank you!
Lisa Webster
Mount Vernon City Library
Mount Vernon, WA
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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER: novel about South Africa
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:09:35 CST
Hi, I'm hoping this will sound familiar to one of you:
Patron is looking for a book she remembers reading in
high school (which means the book is at least 20 years
old). It's about a white boy and a black boy in South
Africa who are friends. She remembers the book as
being fairly small and very "touching." It's NOT
Sheila
Gordon's "Waiting for the Rain."
If you have any suggestions, you can email me at:
cathryncdlib@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance.
Cathryn
Webster (NH) Free Public Library
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From: BOGART Debra <dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER: solved-Fripsey family?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:11:44 CST
Thanks to Diana Norton and Kathleen Baxter who already 'solved' and
confirmed
that the Fripsey family series is by Mayse Chastain and the third book
called
Leave it to the Fripseys. Thanks so much!!
Debra Bogart, M.L.S.
Youth Services
Springfield Public Library
Springfield, OR
>>> BOGART Debra 12/18/00 01:12PM >>>
A patron is looking for a series she read in the 50's or 60's about a family
named the "Fripseys" who learn to play flutes and travel around the
country
performing. She thinks the first two titles were Fripsey Summer and Fripsey
Fun. I haven't turned up any leads, does this sound familiar to anyone?
Thank you--
dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us
Debra Bogart, M.L.S.
Youth Services
Springfield Public Library
Springfield, OR
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From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER-pod children
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:13:18 CST
Hi all,
We're looking for a book from about 30-40 years ago.
It's a
science fictioni/fantasy, part of a series. Children come from pods and
they don't really know their power at the time. Patron thinks it was made
into a TV show. She read it as a young adult.
We've tried all sorts of key word searching in our on-line catalog
but books that long ago didn't have CIP. We've tried Barron's Fantasy
Literature, our local expert on Twilight Zone and Night Gallery, and What
Do Children (And Young Adults) Read Next. Nothing -- Does this ring
any
bells? Thanx in advance. - jeri
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@gcfn.org
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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