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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 344
PUBYAC Digest 344
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: Invisible Ink- lemon juice
by "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
2) school media collection development
by Kathleen Ahern <kahern@selco.lib.mn.us>
3) Ellison vs. Accumark / Laminating machines
by Minero@aol.com
4) old but gold
by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
5) showing PG rated films
by MClark <mclark@toledolibrary.org>
6) Christmas Card Crafts
by "Jennifer Bromann" <bromannj@hotmail.com>
7) Re: Susan Cooper (was RE: Next Harry Potter)
by "M. Mills" <mmills@stic.lib.tx.us>
8) Re: Book Discussions for pre-teens
by "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
9) Re: Classic?
by "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
10) Sugar Creek Gang and/or Anthony Paul Audios?
by "Stacey Boycik" <stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
11) RE: Baby lapsit programs
by "Lynnette Schoshke" <lschoshke@salpublib.org>
12) "Net Scum" Comment...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
13) Re: next Harry Potter
by "Allyson Goodwin" <Agood@ci.carlsbad.ca.us>
14)
by "Patricia LaTerza" <platerza@leaplibraries.org>
15) Caldecott Reader's Theater -- Casey at the Bat
by Aaron Shepard <AS@aaronshep.com>
16) Stumper--can't figure out an author name
by Susan Harding <susanharding@email.com>
17) Bungle Biscuit Stumper
by "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
18) Stumper: Minerva and Goat
by Chris Mallo <chrism@grrl.lib.mn.us>
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From: "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
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Subject: RE: Invisible Ink- lemon juice
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:45:43 CST
A bare light bulb--that is how my brother and I did it as kids, now that =
you mention it!
Beverly Kirkendall
Hurst Public Library
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From: Kathleen Ahern <kahern@selco.lib.mn.us>
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Subject: school media collection development
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:46:44 CST
I have a patron who has asked me what school media specialists would
name as their definitive collection development resource. In the
public
library setting, I use the Children's Catalog and of course, journals,
etc. She was wondering what' are THE recommended sources that
school
media specialists themselves have found to be invaluable for them in
their collection development. Send replies directly to me. I'll
post
if interest. TIA!
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From: Minero@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Ellison vs. Accumark / Laminating machines
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:00:56 CST
Children's Librarians (Oh, esteemed beings):
Greetings!
I wonder if anyone would be willing to provide me with feedback (off-list)
as
to how the Accumark die-cutting machine measures up to the Ellison.
Both
companies are running special offers which make the machines virtually
identical in cost. I'd also love some recommendations and feedback as
to
laminating machines.
I want to make sure our library gets the best possible equipment--it's a big
purchase!
Thanks SO much for your help,
Maggie Bollar
maggiebollar@aol.com
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Youth Services Librarian
New Carlisle Public Library
111 East Lake Avenue
New Carlisle, OH 45344
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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: old but gold
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:01:58 CST
So far noone has offered an opinion about the whole question I raised
recently regarding whether, although pay in theory clearly OUGHT to be
equal for all varieties of MLS holders regardless of what the market
is, a director might want to be able to offer a specialists with hard
to find skills a higher salary than degree holders who were
generalists
and would presumeably not be too difficult to replace. Is this too
much
of a live wire to handle for reasons that I don't understand, or (hard
to believe) is it an issue that noone has thought about much? On
another note, I have recently been very much enjoying becoming
reacquainted with Kipling, specifically PUCK OF POOKS HILL and REWARDS
AND FAIRIES. In each chapter he has a character from a different
period
of English history come back and talk about their lives and worlds with
two English children who are fictional stand-ins for Kipling's own. What
an intriguing bunch they are, and how delightful he makes the learning
process. For gradeschool children who are still enjoying readalouds
with their parents these would be wonderful discussion starters as well
as fascinating windows into many different pasts. What would it have
been like to grow up a stoneage shepherd, fearing wolves every day of
your life? What a fine guide to the times which are gone and the
people
who knew them this weaver of wonders still can be if we but give him
the chance....
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI
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From: MClark <mclark@toledolibrary.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: showing PG rated films
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Our Library system rents feature films on video for use by our staff
during summer reading club programming. We generally rent several
"G-rated" films to use with children up through grade 4 or 5.
We also rent a couple "PG-rated" films to use with young people
in grades 5 and up.
We always advertise the title and the rating to give parents a
"heads-up" an allow them to make the decision on whether or not
their
children can attend a program with a "PG-rating". (We
believe this
works the same way that advertising a Halloween storytime allows
parents who do not believe in celebrating the holiday make the
decision on whether or not to attend storytime that week.)
My questions to those who show "PG-rated" films:
Do you just include the "PG-rating" in your promotional pieces?
Do any of you require that young people who attend a "PG-rated"
film, have a permission slip signed by a parent?
Thanks for your comments!
Marilyn Clark
Youth Services Coordinator
Toledo-Lucas County Public Library
mclark@toledolibrary.org
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From: "Jennifer Bromann" <bromannj@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Christmas Card Crafts
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Does anyone know of any crafts you can make using old Christmas cards?
Or
does anyone know of a book that shows crafts using Christmas cards?
Thank
you.
Jennifer Bromann
Head of Youth Services
Prairie Trails Public Library
Burbank, IL
bromannj@hotmail.com
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From: "M. Mills" <mmills@stic.lib.tx.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Susan Cooper (was RE: Next Harry Potter)
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I love to sing, and I would appreciate hearing the song on tape
(audiocassette). I sing by ear and need to hear the tune first.
Thanks for
letting us know about the song. M. Mills Helen Hall
Library, 100 W.
Walker
St., League City, TX 77573.
Maggi Rohde wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Tatar, Becky wrote:
> > So, for anyone going through Harry withdrawal, give them Susan
> > Cooper's "The Dark is Rising" series. I read about
it in an article,
> > I'm not sure who's - Michael Cart or Wlll Manley, and I purchased
it
> > for our collection. I am on book 4 - The Grey King, and it
is just
> > great. As I asked a friend, where were the librarian's and
teachers
> > who knew I was a reader in 1965 when the first book in this set
came
> > out? I had never heard of it before.
>
> I love love love Susan Cooper's quintet. I found it as a late
teen, and
> just ate it up.
>
> Trivia time: Did you know there's a song? (I learned the song
before I
> read the series -- you can imagine my delight when I saw the books on
the
> library shelves, all with titles taken from words to this song...!)
There
> are also songs about The Velveteen Rabbit, The Hobbit, Alice in
> Wonderland... hmm, I see a programming unit in my future...
>
> Drop me a line if you would be interested in hearing a copy of the song
on
> tape.
>
> The Dark is Rising
> by Julia Ecklar (copyright sometime in the early 80's, I think)
> typed from memory by Maggi Rohde, so forgive any errors!
>
> Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long
> Wood from the burning, stone out of song
> Fire from the candle ring, water from the thaw
> These six signs the seeker at the last sign-seeker's call
> Fire on the mountaintop shall find the harp of gold
> Played to wake the Sleepers, the oldest of the old
> Power from the Greenwitch that's been lost beneath the sea
> All these things shall find the Light, the silver on the tree.
>
> Chorus: When the Dark comes rising, six shall turn it back
> Three from the circle,
three from the track
> Wood, bronze, iron,
water, fire, stone
> Five shall return and
one go alone
>
> On the Day of the Dead when the year too dies
> Find the youngest in the oldest hills, the door where seabirds fly
> There fire shall flee the raven boy and silver see the wind
> And the Light shall have the harp of gold in safety once again
> By the pleasant lake on Cadven's Way the ancient Sleepers lie
> Where the Grey King's shadows hunt the land and wicked kestrels cry
> There one great Thing of Power by the Light shall sing and guide
> So the Sleepers find their long sleep's end and before the Light out
ride.
>
> Chorus
>
> The grail is first to lead them over sea and under stone
> A seeker soon to follow on a quest begun alone
> Ways of old to guide and guard, paths to bring and send
> Circles both in light and dark from starting until end
> When light back from the Lost Land's shore shall in the end return
> Six Sleepers all shall ride again, six signs shall brightly burn
> And when Midsummer's tree grows up all silver fair and tall
> Pendragon's sword against the Dark shall bring Dark's final fall.
>
> Chorus
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From: "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Book Discussions for pre-teens
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THE MOTHER-DAUGHTER BOOK CLUB by Shireen Dodson is a great book to start you
off on the bookgroup journey, even if you don't use the
"parent-child"
format.
Although it's directed at adults, THE READING GROUP HANDBOOK by Rachel
Jacobsohn also has some good ideas.
I have a Parent-Kid bookgroup aimed at that very age group, so email me
privately if you have more questions. Have fun, and good luck!
--Curry Rose Hoskey
Youth Services Librarian
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd.
Eastham MA 02642
http://www.capecod.net/~elibrary/
Opinions expressed are my own, not the library's.
----- Original Message -----
From: Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Book Discussions for pre-teens
> I have been asked by a Homeschooling mother to
> consider doing a book discussion for a group of
> pre-teen homeschooled children. I am the children's
> librarian at my library and my focus has always been
> on preschool story times, etc. Our Young Adult
> librarian does book discussions for the YA's, but says
> that the group pretty much leads the discussion on
> their own. Does anyone know of a good reference or
> guide to running a book discussion, or have any
> tips/advice?
> Thanks in advance
> Christina Johnson
> marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com
>
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From: "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Classic?
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If you can get your hands on CHILDREN'S CATALOG published by H.W. Wilson,
use it. It has a comprehensive listing of all categories of books,
both old
and new.
For non-fiction, try the Weed of the Month Club website:
http://www.sunlink.ucf.edu/weed/
It really helps!
--
Curry Rose Hoskey
Youth Services Librarian
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd.
Eastham MA 02642
http://www.capecod.net/~elibrary/
Opinions expressed are my own, not the library's.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Anderson, Children's Librarian <lisajo@ci.burlington.wa.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:56 PM
Subject: Classic?
> Hello!
>
> I am in the painful process of weeding a children's collection for the
very
> first time. Does anyone know a website that lists the classics?
I know
> that Good Night Moon by Margaret Wise Brown, Make Way For Duckling by
Robert
> McCloskey, Millions of Cats by Wanda Gag, The Cat In the Hat by Dr.
Seuss,
> and all the familiar Disney Classics such as Sleeping Beauty,
Cinderella,
> etc.are classics. But what about The Legend of the Willow Plate
by Alvin
> Tresselt or The Duchess Bakes A Cake by Virginia Kahl? I would greatly
> appreciate any help you could offer.
>
>
> Lisa Anderson
> Children's Librarian
> Burlington Public Library
>
>
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From: "Stacey Boycik" <stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Sugar Creek Gang and/or Anthony Paul Audios?
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:04:42 CST
Does anyone know where I can buy sound recordings for the Sugar Creek
Gang and/or Anthony Paul's Agapeland Character Builders series? These
are both extremely popular at our library, but I cannot find
replacements.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Stacey Boycik
stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us
Wadsworth Public Library
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From: "Lynnette Schoshke" <lschoshke@salpublib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Baby lapsit programs
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The book "Lapsit Services for the Very Young" by Linda L. Ernst
might be of
interest and of help to you. It is full of ideas and sample programs.
Lynnette Schoshke
Youth Progam Specialist
Salina Public Library-Children's Dept.
Salina, Ks.
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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: "Net Scum" Comment...
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:05:16 CST
I have been stewing on this ever since the comment was made about the
"net
scum" who seem to have invaded libraries, and feel that I need to take
exception to that comment.
The "net scum" that the poster referred to are probably the same
"library
scum" that you don't want to wait on when they appear at your
circulation
desk, yet they have just as much right to library services as anyone else.
I watch daily as people come up to the desk who don't meet the desk person's
idea of a "perfect person" and are treated rudely and unfairly.
Do you lump into that "net scum" category senior citizens who
don't want to
buy a computer or families too poor to afford one that come to your library
to use the free ones offered there? We are in the midst of computer
training classes for our seniors here at our library (I help as an extra set
of "hands" for class when needed), and it is truly heart-warming
and
gratifying to see them finally "catch on" to what the net is all
about and
to have them come back and say that they've communicated thru e-mail (which
we teach them to do), with grandchildren or other relatives. Or to see their
eyes light up when, as a homework assignment, they're told to bring back
several .com addresses that might be interest to them, and see the
cyberworld unfold before them. Equally gratifying is that child (no
matter
what their social or economic status) who has been successful finding a
picture or information for a report for school or just for fun.
Sure, we all have those inevitable ones who try your patience (like the
gentleman who cussed out the lady on the computer he wanted when he thought
she was taking too long), or the kid who tries to re-write your security
codes and downloads pornographic pictures. They quickly learn that
internet
useage, at least in our library, is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. Needless
to
say, they no longer have privileges.
So, please be careful in the future when judging the character or the intent
of those who use your internet stations. Those "net scum" might
just be the
deciding voters in your library's next bond or levy election...
Just my two cents worth (and I am probably due a LOT of change!)
Barb Scott, Children's Librarian
Bucyrus Public Library
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From: "Allyson Goodwin" <Agood@ci.carlsbad.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: next Harry Potter
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We just received our copy for the reference section. I haven't had the
=
time i'd like to really look at. After all it is a reference book and
=
can't go home with me. I seem to get more uninterrupted reading time
at =
home than work. anyway, It has great intro and how to use the
book. =
Looks very complete and up to date. If you have lots of
teachers/parents =
interested in using HP, i would highly recommend the book.
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From: "Patricia LaTerza" <platerza@leaplibraries.org>
To: goodnightmoon@connix.com, pubyac@prairienet.org
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I am doing a bibliography for a teacher of non-fiction books on
scientists
or inventors who are not white males. Does anyone have such a list and
if
so, would you be willing to share?
Thanks
Pat LaTerza
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From: Aaron Shepard <AS@aaronshep.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Caldecott Reader's Theater -- Casey at the Bat
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For those of you who will be using Christopher Bing's newly-announced
Caldecott Honor book, _Casey at the Bat_, this is a reminder that a
reader's theater script of the poem is on my Web site at:
http://www.aaronshep.com
From my home page, click on Aaron's RT Page, then on Reader's Theater
Editions. The script can be freely copied and performed for any
educational, noncommercial purpose.
Please note: Many variants of Ernest Lawrence Thayer's poem have been
published, so the text used in my script may not exactly match the
one in Bing's picture book.
Aaron Shepard
AS@aaronshep.com
http://www.aaronshep.com
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From: Susan Harding <susanharding@email.com>
To: Pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper--can't figure out an author name
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Every year we invite some authors to come and work with students in a
one-day workshop. We always ask the kids to suggest authors to invite
for
the next year--this is a question on the program's evaluation form, so the
students do not sign their names. This year someone (in either the
middle
school or high school group) suggested Janet Finet--a name that did not ring
a bell with me or anyone else on the committee. I would not count on
the
name being spelled correctly. Can anyone make an educated guess which
author this refers to?
Thanks,
Susan Harding
susanharding@email.com
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From: "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Bungle Biscuit Stumper
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:06:36 CST
Dear All,
I hope you can help with this!
Patron is looking for a book that may be an easy reader/beginning chapter
book. It is about a captain and his crew (humans, not animal
characters) on
a ship called the Bungle Biscuit (so thinks the patron). Patron
remembers
one short story/chapter devoted to the cook and his biscuits (the biscuits
were too dry/too hard).
Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.
Curry Rose Hoskey
Youth Services Librarian
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd.
Eastham MA 02642
http://www.capecod.net/~elibrary/
Opinions expressed are my own, not the library's.
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From: Chris Mallo <chrism@grrl.lib.mn.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Minerva and Goat
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:06:53 CST
We have a patron who remembers a book from
a long time ago about a girl/lady named
Minerva and a goat (doesn't remember the name).
He can't remember anything else. Does
anyone know of this book? We've exhausted all
the usual sources and have come up with
nothing. Help, help, please help!
Thanks!
Chris Mallo
chrism@grrl.lib.mn.us
Great River Regional Library
St. Cloud, MN 56301
(320) 650-2500
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