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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 384
PUBYAC Digest 384
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: Question About Easy Readers
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
2) Re: Nancy Drew followup
by "Louise Capizzo" <lcapizzo@falmouth.lib.me.us>
3) Re: DVDs
by Lori Hatfield <hatfiell@mail.rockdale.public.lib.ga.us>
4) Teen clip art request
by Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>
5) RE: Nancy Drew series
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
6) Re: Nancy Drew followup
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
7) Re: Question About Easy Readers
by Paulalef@aol.com
8) Re: skateboarding program
by "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
9) Re: Question about Easy Readers
by "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
10) Science is Fun program
by Roben.Closs@co.fairfax.va.us
11) RE: Dial-a-story machines
by "Amy Cassidy" <cassidyamy@hotmail.com>
12) RE: mystery night info
by CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
13) Dial a Story Question
by Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
14) Re: Nancy Drew series
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
15) RE: Nancy Drew followup
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
16) Stumper solved: Male babysitter
by steven engelfried <stevene@dpls.lib.or.us>
17) Stumper: different color keys, different color kingdoms
by Minero@aol.com
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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Question About Easy Readers
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We used to just include these in our Reader section, but as more and more of
them are published, and fewer of them are really "easy readers" in
the
truest sense (controlled vocabulary, etc.), we decided it was time to create
our Primary Nonfiction area. These books are now cataloged as
PRI/123.45
Smith, or whatever, and are shelved at the end of our Reader section.
Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org
> Toni Reese wrote:
>
> It's me again -- this time with a question about cataloging easy
readers.
> We are beginning to get in easy readers that are non-fiction.
They are
> from the "Eyewitness Readers" series and appear to have very
good
> information. I am tempted to catalog them in the general
non-fiction area
> with a local subject note in the catalog saying "Easy
Reader," but at the
> same time am worried that these books will be overlooked by a mom or
kid
> just browsing for something good to read in the Easy Reader section.
>
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From: "Louise Capizzo" <lcapizzo@falmouth.lib.me.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew followup
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to all;
remember, michael dorris and louise erdrich came up with 'the birchbark
house' as their response to the negative attitudes towards indians in the
little house books.
louise capizzo
falmouth memorial library
falmouth, maine
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From: Lori Hatfield <hatfiell@mail.rockdale.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: DVDs
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:56 CST
The best help I have found so far is a Midwest Tape catalog and their
website.
Lori
At 10:14 AM 3/3/01 CST, you wrote:
>We are currently creating our new children's DVD collection. I was
wondering if any of you know of any good searching techniques or websites
that are helpful in searching for just children and family DVDs. We
haven't been able to locate too many sites that let you search just for
children's DVDs. Thanks for your help!
>
>Youth Services Staff Eau Claire Public Library
>
>*****************************************
>Youth Services
>L.E. Phillips Memorial Public Library
>Eau Claire, WI 54701
>(715)839-5007 - voice
>(715)833-5310 - fax
>
>www.eauclaire.lib.wi.us
>ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us
>*****************************************
>
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From: Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen clip art request
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:12:22 CST
Would you recommend your favorite sources for teen clip art to use in your
YA signage or publicity? I currently use Publisher 2000, Printartist
and
Printshop. I love Publisher for ease of use with text, but the
graphics
are limited. Printartist's strength, I think is in low-text signs. I've
gotten a lot more graphics lately from Printshop, but
I find it to be a bit slow to use simultaneously with Publisher on my PC..
I occasionally go out onto the internet and grab a bunch of copyright free
images, but this is time consuming.
I'd be happy to buy a product I knew
would contain a nice variety of trendy teen clips.
Any suggestions? I'll summarize.
Laura Gruninger,Young Adult Librarian
Mercer County Library System, Lawrence HQ
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: Nancy Drew series
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia Dollisch [SMTP:dolliscp@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:06 AM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: Nancy Drew series
> Now, on the question of Nancy Drew--why keep books on the shelf that
> contain language that may hurt the reader if even the publisher has
> decided that the language needs to be updated? Nancy Drew, like
Betty
> Crocker, is continually re-invented and updated, which gives her the
> luxury of NOT being tied to outdated language and notions.
>
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Bravo, Patricia.
I'm a very strong opponent of censorship, but there is a difference
between censorship and weeding or updating one's collection. We'd
never
dream of keeping outdated nonfiction in our collection. There are lots
of
old career books, for example, talking about how girls can be nurses or
teachers, and we don't cry "censorship" when we pitch these for
more modern
versions.
The publishers (and "author" -- surely we all know by now that
there
is no Carolyn Keene) have decided to update these books for a reason.
Is it
really appropriate for us to superimpose our own judgements and insist that
the first edition is somehow "purer"?
I'm not suggesting we should remove all books from our collections
that have any hint of old offensive notions... but if there is a newer, more
modern edition which maintains the character of the work while updating it
to modern sensibilities, why not catch your collection up to the 21st
century?
My opinions are my own.
Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org
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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew followup
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:13:22 CST
Dear Kathleen,
"Politically Correct" and "knee jerk" reaction were
used in some of the responses to your original
posting. It seems to me that it's also becoming just
as much a knee jerk reaction and just as much
"politically correct" to label concerns such as yours
as censorship.
Thank you for posting such a thoughtful and eloquent
followup to your original Nancy Drew question.
Cathryn
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From: Paulalef@aol.com
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Subject: Re: Question About Easy Readers
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Hi, Toni,
We kind of ponder the same thing, but we keep our easy reader nonfiction
with the rest of our nonfiction. On the one hand, this means our Easy Reader
section is totally fiction, which helps, but also we have a sizable
population of kids who are reading WAY below grade level and need those easy
nonfictions for reports. It's less embarrassing for them to find what they
need interfiled with the rest of the subject area. One of our branches,
which does not have this problem, has an "EJ 000.00" designation
and
separates these from both the J nonfiction and the Easy Reader sections.
Let us know what you decide to do. It's a problem lots of us have.
Paula Lefkowitz
Head, Children's Department
Parsippany (NJ) PL
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From: "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: skateboarding program
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:14:15 CST
>Speaking of skateboarding, I am looking into redoing our Teen magazines
and
>wanted a skateboarding magazine. Any recommendations? I'm
thinking about
>getting Thraser but am not sure. Thanks!
>
We started to get Transworld Skateboarding recently, and it seems pretty
popular.
M. Neiman
neiman@glasct.org
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT
http://www.wtmlib.com
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my organization.
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From: "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Question about Easy Readers
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We have all our Easy Readers in a separate section. They have a call number
of JE READER (whatever). We have a number of non-fiction books in this
area, and they simply get a call number of JE READER 551.5 (or whatever).
M. Neiman
neiman@glasct.org
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT
http://www.wtmlib.com
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my organization.
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From: Roben.Closs@co.fairfax.va.us
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Subject: Science is Fun program
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:15:05 CST
Hello Pubyac!
A colleague and I are planning a science program for the summer - sort of a
combination of Ms. Frizzle and Bill Nye the Science Guy. Rather than
reinvent the wheel, I was wondering if any of you have experiments or ideas
for a program like this? I plan on setting up four different stations
with
hands-on activities for the kids. I'm sure we'll do the baking
soda/vinegar
reaction and also something with bubbles. But I'm just curious if any
of
you have had successful science programs in the past. Any and all
ideas
would be greatly appreciated!
We will be doing the program a total of seven times in various locations
throughout Fairfax County so the ideas have to be somewhat portable.
Thanks in advance!
Roben Closs
Lorton Library
Lorton, Virginia
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From: "Amy Cassidy" <cassidyamy@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Dial-a-story machines
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I think the nice thing about dial-a-story is that kids whose families can't
afford Internet access can call in and be able to hear a story. It
would
obviously be nice to have both, but those kids with Internet access already
have so much at their disposal (on the Internet), whereas those with only a
phone might really appreciate being able to hear a story.
Amy Cassidy
----Original Message Follows----
From: annelmay@mailserver.franklintwp.org
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To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Dial-a-story machines
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:17:17 CST
Has anyone explored the possibility of a story on the library website
rather than dial-a-story? I have seen this on one library website, but
I
don't remember which one. It seems to me that this is more in keeping
with
modern technology - providing your library has a website and the majority
of the patrons who would want a story at home have internet access.
I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has done this, although I
think using the library voicemail system is also a good idea.
Anne Lemay
Franklin Township Library
Somerset NJ
annelmay@franklintwp.org
At 04:37 PM 2/28/01 CST, you wrote:
>Wow, how many thousands of dollars for a dial-a-story
>machine?!
>
>Don't overlook the possibility of using your facility's voicemail
>
>system for recording dial-a-story. I've been doing it that
way
>for five years now, and it works very well. I use an
"extra"
>voicemail box through our city, and I record the story as the
>outgoing message. The mailbox been set up so it doesn't
>accept messages from callers.
>
>Probably not every voicemail system would allow this, but for
>us I access the dial-a-story mailbox through my own phone
>number. In voicemail lingo it is a mailbox I
"sponsor."
>Naturally the dial-a-story recording has its own separate
>phone number for patrons to call.
>
>It's nice because I can change the story from any phone
>anywhere--I don't need to wait for silence in our workroom.
>And it only breaks down when the voicemail system goes
>down!
>
>N.
>-----------------------
>Nicole Reader
>Children's Librarian
>Benicia (CA) Public Library
>nreader@snap.lib.ca.us
>http://www.ci.benicia.ca.us/library.html
>
>
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From: CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: mystery night info
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:16:08 CST
Hi, Claudia
We had a mystery night back in January. The script we used was one we
got from the children's librarian at our main branch - we revised it to
suit our needs. The program was for YAs in grades 6-12, but most of
the
attendees were in the 6-8th grade bracket. We had 17 YAs
participating.
We divided them into 6 teams - 5 teams of 3 and one of 2. They had to
go around the library building and interview "suspects" (library
staff
people who were actually on duty at the ref/circ/children's desks that
night). We had a "crime scene" set up, complete with crime
scene tape
donated from a local police station and an outline of the body on
the floor (done with masking tape). The YAs had a great time and so
did
the staff! It was amazing to see how serious the YAs were - they
really
got into the program and we overheard one group cautioning another to
be careful not to get their fingerprints on the desk they were examining
! This was the first time we had offered such a program, and we plan
to
do it again this summer. If you would like for me to send you the
scripts,
let me know your mailing address.
Miranda Cary
Otranto Road Regional Library
Charleston County Public Library System
Charleston, South Carolina
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From: Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Dial a Story Question
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Can you keep Stats on 'visitors' to your dial-a-story
systems, voice mail included?
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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew series
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:17:11 CST
Thanks Patricia for so eloquently stating what I was thinking. We
make judgements everyday when we purchase materials as to whether
they are appropriate IN OUR OPINION or not. You certainly cannot
equate a novel of along the lines of Tom Sawyer and it's historical
context with something like Nancy Drew. Even the writers and
publishers
of these types of books edit, update, change and repackage at will.
They are simply McBooks for the consumer-nothing wrong with them
being sold that way but they are certainly not something I am ready to
fight for when it comes to content!
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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Nancy Drew followup
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:17:52 CST
Kathleen...you go girl! Why put something into the hands of a child
with
no discussion of what the hurtful words inside really mean or do to a child.
You are right that for the most part true literature like Twain is discussed
in a classroom setting with historical context. The Drew books are
presented as timeless and I am shocked at people that keep mentioning
them as 'historical fiction'. I guess they find the Disney book
versiom
of Sleeping Beauty truly a 'classic'. WHat must those Grimm
brothers be
thinking?
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From: steven engelfried <stevene@dpls.lib.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper solved: Male babysitter
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Thanks to Georgi Sandgren and Jen (Vanston) Marin for so quickly identifying
the book we were looking for as "Mr. Pudgins" by Ruth Cristoffer
Carlsen.
["It is about a plump male babysitter. While he is babysitting
orange pop
and rootbeer come out of the faucets. In another chapter they go on a
trip
and the man passes the steering wheel to each child, so that they can have a
turn driving. She thinks one girl was named Janie."]
- Steven Engelfried, Young Adult Librarian
Deschutes Public Library System
545 NW Wall Street Bend, OR 97701
ph: 541-617-7072 fax: 541-389-2982
e-mail: stevene@dpls.lib.or.us
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From: Minero@aol.com
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Subject: Stumper: different color keys, different color kingdoms
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Greetings, wise ones--
Part I: A lady remembers reading a book (I'm guessing this might be in
the
1950s) about different colored keys opening different colors of
kingdoms...e.g. the red key opens a red kingdom, blue key, blue kingdom, and
so on. This sounds VERY familiar to me--like maybe one of the stories
in
Andrew Lang's books, or some other fairy tale I read as a child. Can
someone
tell us the title?
Part II: The same lady, a bibliophile, is looking to purchase a copy
of Jo
Ellen Bogart's <Gifts> and a book by William Don Hey called either
<Teeny
Weeny Neighborhood> or <Teeny Weeny Neighbors>. I have
searched
www.bookfinder.com, www.alibris.com,
www.bn.com, www.abe.com,
and I can't
find any copies. I know the book <Gifts,> as it is in our
collection, but I
can't find any mention of Teeny Weeny Neighbors/Neighborhood, and I wonder
if
she's spelling the author or the title wrong? Any illumination you can
give
would thrill patron and librarian!
Thanks,
Maggie Bollar
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