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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 395
PUBYAC Digest 395
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: Children or Children's?
by "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
2) Re: Children or Children's?
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
3) RE: Children or Children's?
by Sue Ridnour <SRidnour@flower-mound.com>
4) Summary of ideas: fun/writing events in your library
by Ingrid Henderson <ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz>
5) door count machines
by "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
6) carpal tunnel computer use policy?
by "Kate Pappas" <Kate.Pappas@spl.org>
7) Re: PUBYAC digest 394
by Sallywilms@aol.com
8) Fingerplay workshop
by "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
9) RE: Children or Children's?
by gochnm <gochnm@mont.lib.md.us>
10) Re: Colored sand
by stewartj@einetwork.net (Judy
Stewart)
11) Stumper about parent going into the army
by Kris Zimmerman <ZimmeK@ci.loveland.co.us>
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From: "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: Children or Children's?
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:46:43 CST
Gee, at our library, I'm a Youth Services Librarian - the idea being some of
the older kids are slighted at being called children.
Denise M. Pulgino Stout
Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Library
610-280-2672
dpstout@ccls.org
Why do dragons have long tails? They can't remember short stories!
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a
dog, it's too
dark to read." Groucho Marx
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Children or Children's?
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:06 CST
I don't think I've ever heard it any way other than
"Children's"
Children's Librarian, Children's Services...
It doesn't sound correct the other way. You could
change it to "Juvenile Librarian" but that sort of
implies that the librarian is immature.
I guess if the shoe fits... ;)
I have the same problem when I direct people to the
"adult videos, I mean the videos for adults, I mean,
not like you know rated-x, but not in the kid's area,
oh geez."
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From: Sue Ridnour <SRidnour@flower-mound.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:20 CST
I agree with this rationale, but if it is corrent, then shouldn't those
people over on the serious side of the library be the "Adult's
Librarians?"
Otherwise, we're implying that they are librarians who are adults, while we
are . . . what? Librarians who are not adults? Of course, if
we're going
to follow this semantic argument to its logical conclusion, we'll have to do
something about those "adult videos" in the library . . .
Yours tongue-in-cheekly (for those of you have read and enjoyed "Little
Wolf's Book of Badness"),
Sue
Sue Ridnour
Youth Services Manager
Flower Mound Public Library
Flower Mound, TX 75022
972.691.0059
-----Original Message-----
From: Lorie J. O'Donnell [mailto:odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:16 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Children or Children's?
Why, Children's Librarian, of course. That's the possessive, and don't
the
little devils own us?? At least they think they do in my Children's Room!!
Lorie
Lorie J. O'Donnell
Jervis Public Library Children's Room
Rome, NY 13440
The best is yet to be.
The last of life, for which the first was made.
- - - -Robert Browning "'Rabbi Ben Ezra"
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From: Ingrid Henderson <ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: Summary of ideas: fun/writing events in your library
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:35 CST
Hi everyone,
Many thanks to Esther, and others whose names I have inadvertantly deleted
(sorry!)
Ingrid
Hello Ingrid,
I hope this response is not too late. I saw your post on PUBYAC.
I've done many creative writing activities with this age group.
Some of my most popular ones:
Read a Fractured Fairy Tale like Sciezka's True Story of the Three Little
Pigs and have the kids rewrite their favorite Fairy Tale.
Have them create List Poems. They should choose a title: Things
that
Repeat Themselves or Things under My Bed, etc. and Just make a list. A
Variation is for everyone to start a List Poem but have everyone swap
papers. This worked really well. The best one was called
"Noises in the
City" and Fashions Dos and Donts.
Beginnings. Stress the important of a good beginning. Choose a
few first
lines to demonstrate. I.E. "They murdered Him." from the
Chocolate War by
Cormier. Have everyone write a first line and everyone gets to read
theirs
aloud. They can either then continue their story or switch papers and
continue.
Good Luck. Hope this helps.
Esther
For Teen Read Week last year, we played our own version of "Who wants
to be
a know-it-all?" We made up the questions so that they were all
book- and
library-related. The room was darkened, the contestant and host sat on
tall
bar stools, and the lifelines included Ask a Librarian, Poll the audience,
or 50/50. Everyone had a blast!
Dear Ingrid,
I have 2 suggestions, both I have used before with success.
1. Have a jar with a variety of items in it ie, marbles, small toys, nature
items, anything you think would spark their interest and get them to write
using an item as a prompt.
2. Create a scenario - the wilder the better and leave them hanging to
create the rest of the story. One I have used before is that the world
is
going to be ruled from space by a council of people made up of
representatives from each country of the world. How would the leaders
be
chosen? Which form of government will they use? Who will be in
charge?
etc...
They like deciding about power and its use.
Hope this helps.
I have heard of using magnetic poetry on cookie sheets for example, as a
groupactivity, teams, etc. You can give them themes or questions to answer
in their poems...
I have also heard of making your own large size magnetic poetry using
magnetic sheets in your printer-you could thereby choose the words you
wanted.
This sounds expensive to me however!
Also, this age group is very fond of Urban Legends, and there are some
good new books about containing them.
Have fun,
Ingrid Henderson; Assistant Children's and Young Person's Librarian
Nelson Public Library
Ph (03) 546-0419
ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz
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From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:48:17 CST
Does anyone know of a vendor who sells door count machines? (Are they
machines?!) I am thinking of "electric eyes" that could be
mounted at
the entryway to the children's department. If you can recommend, or
pan, a product, I would appreciate hearing about it.
Reply to murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us
Thanks!
-Jendy Murphy
Albany Public Library
Albany, NY
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From: "Kate Pappas" <Kate.Pappas@spl.org>
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Subject: carpal tunnel computer use policy?
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:48:32 CST
Am throwing myself on the collective experience and legal wisdom of this =
list.
Do any fellow PUBYAC'ers with public-access computers with a time limit =
have a written policy which specifically allots extra time, above the =
limit, for patrons with physical hand/arm problems (carpal tunnel, =
arthritis, etc.)? Or states that any person with a disability is entitled =
to extra time beyond the standard allotment?
Also curious as to whether this type of policy is a requirement in order =
to be ADA-compliant. For example, if a person with, say, carpal tunnel or =
arthritis or any other
physical disability requires more than the standard time limit, are we =
legally required to extend their time or be charged with an ADA violation =
and fined and possibly sued?
(I am not talking about accessibility, of course. This question came up =
hypothetically and I wasn't sure of the formal, correct answer. I think in =
practice people would give them extra time if there weren't a lot of other =
people waiting to use the computers, but as far as actual official law, I =
wasn't sure!)
Thanks!
Curious Kate
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From: Sallywilms@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: PUBYAC digest 394
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:48:56 CST
And what always tickles me beyond belief is when we see the kids in
the
grocery store, post office, etc., and the kids are astonished and horrified
that we are not at the library (where we belong!). And, Amy, thanks
for
this
site--been enjoying it thoroughly!!
Sally Williams
W.T. Bland Public Library
Mount Dora, FL. 32757
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From: "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Fingerplay workshop
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:49:14 CST
Dear pubyaccers,
Awhile back someone asked for ideas for a fingerplay workshop. I no
longer have any information on this, but now I am scheduled to do a
couple of these! If you have any suggestions, resources, etc., please
write me.
TIA
Karen Gardner
Anderson Public Library
Anderson, IN 46016
kgardner@and.lib.in.us
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From: gochnm <gochnm@mont.lib.md.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Children or Children's?
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:49:28 CST
I was a Children's Librarian for 23 years. Now, as management I work with
both
children and adults. My main collection responsibility is the adult
book
collection. People that worked with that collection are considered
Adult
Librarians not Adult's Librarian. As things progress the generic term
Information Specialist (partly because they do adult and reference work) is
being used more and more.
On a related subject. What do you call your non-children's popular
videos?
Has anyone come up with a better term than "Adult" Videos?
>===== Original Message From pubyac@prairienet.org
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>We have an interesting discussion going on in our
>library. Which term would be correct to use Children
>Librarian or Children's Librarian? I would appreciate
>your input.
>TIA,
>Becky Stutzman
>A librarian who works with
>
children
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
>http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Mark S. Gochnour, M.L.S. gochnm@mont.lib.md.us
Agency Manager - Poolesville Library
Montgomery County (Maryland) Dept. of Public Libraries
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my
organization.
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From: stewartj@einetwork.net
(Judy Stewart)
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Colored sand
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:49:41 CST
No, but have you heard the method of using salt and rubbing colored
chalk into it? That is fun, cheap, and the kids can do it themselves.
The colors are not exceedingly vibrant, but it works for layered sand
sculptures, etc.
Judy STewart
Community Library of Allegheny Valley
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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:23 pm
Subject: Colored sand
> Several years ago we found a recipe for a patron to color sand
> using =
> food coloring and alcohol. We are now unable to find it. Has
> anyone used =
> this method?
>
> Linda Peterson
> Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
> 125 South Franklin
> Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
> Phone: (812)384-4125
> Fax: (812)384-0820
> email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us
>
>
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From: Kris Zimmerman <ZimmeK@ci.loveland.co.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: Stumper about parent going into the army
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:49:57 CST
Another stumper for the collective mind to solve. I have a young
mother whose husband is joining the army. Her preschool daughter is confused
about what is happening. Mom was hoping to find some books that related to
this situation. Checking the usual sources I've come up empty handed. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
Kris Zimmerman
Loveland Public Library
Loveland, Co
zimmek@ci.loveland.co.us
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