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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:19 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 455

PUBYAC Digest 455

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Re[2]: Children's librarians as Managers
by <Hedy_Harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us>
2) 2002 SRP Theme
by Christine Neirink <cneirink@vlc.lib.mi.us>
3) Children's Services program coordinator job descriptions needed
by Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
4) RE: SRP promotino
by "Dawn Sardes" <Dawn.Sardes@euclid.lib.oh.us>
5) Book Cart drill team drills needed
by Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
6) RE: Trains
by "Heather Stout" <Hstout.lew@valnet.org>
7) buttonmaker
by Sharon Anderson <sharonKA@showme.net>
8) RE: SRP promotino
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
9) Re: getting prizes even cheaper!
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
10) YA collection development budget
by "Cline, Andrea" <andrea@camden.lib.nj.us>
11) SPR Internet scavenger hunt
by nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org
12) Summer Reading Interview NYT
by Jeanette Larson <larsonlibrary@yahoo.com>
13) Re: CD's vs. tapes
by wwilson2 <wwilson2@woh.rr.com>
14) YA Encyclopedia responses
by Cindy Patterson <cindy@billings.lib.mt.us>
15) baseball team names
by "Taylor Juvenile" <taylorjuv@hotmail.com>
16) Stumper: miniature girl and thimble
by woodk@carnegielibrary.org (Kathy Maron-Wood)
17) RE: stumper:elephants in japan answer found
by Jennifer Longbrake <longbrj1@oplin.lib.oh.us>
18) stumper-owl pellets
by "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>
19) states booklist--LONG!!!
by "Ruhama J. Kordatzky" <rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us>
20) 2nd and 3rd grade classics--LONG
by "Liz Maggio" <liz@palos-verdes.lib.ca.us>
21) CIPA E-rate Clarification and Litigation Schedule
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>

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From: <Hedy_Harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>, <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re[2]: Children's librarians as Managers
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:09:59 CDT

Thank you Shannon VanHemert. After 21 years I thoroughly agree that moving
up
is a choice to really give serious considerations. Excuse me while I go
play,
oops, prepare for my Toddler Story Hour on Bugs, Bees & Caterpillars.
Cheerfully,
Hedy L. Harrison
Children's Services Librarian
Cerritos Public Library
hedy_harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us

____________________Reply Separator____________________
Subject: Re: Children's librarians as Managers
Author: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: 5/21/2001 10:13 AM

I found Mary's post really interesting. It would be great if a paper or
article came out of this--I'll bet some journal would be interested, and
I know that I'd sure like to see some of those postings (with names and
places removed though, to keep them anonymous). It doesn't surprise me
at all that Children's Librarians are becoming managers. When you think
about what we do, the kinds of experiences we get (crowd control, "holding"
a room during storytime, connecting with the community, multi-tasking
because of being the only children's person, etc. etc.), we've got great
on-the-job training for manager-type positions.

IF that's what you want to do ! You can lose some joy moving up. And then
what? It's very difficult to move down again. So while the career ladder
is there, please caution your students that the decision must be made very
carefully. If you go to a very busy library as a manager, you won't be able

to fit any Children's programming in. There is also a certain amount of
pressure to "act like a manager." If you are a Children's librarian,
there might even be pressure from the Administration to take the "higher"
position for various reasons--"you're stagnating," "we need someone who
can do the job and you definitely could do the job," "you're so talented,"
"you're not ambitious," "it would be good for your career," "if you don't
do it now because you want to make the change in a few years, they'll pass
you over because they'll think you're not a go-getter." These are real
pressures. You need to be firm in your knowledge of yourself. If you love
Children's, stay in Children's. Get involved in other system-activities
where there is more cooperation between departments, so you can still prove
you are a "player." Keeping high-power, intelligent people in Children's
keeps
Children's strong.

Shannon VanHemert
Head, Children's Dept.
Columbine Branch,
Littleton, CO
shannonv@jefferson.lib.co.us
...still loving it....

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From: Christine Neirink <cneirink@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: 2002 SRP Theme
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:11:47 CDT

Michigan has joined an eleven state Summer Reading Program Cooperative.
This Cooperative has done a good job of of providing members with
inexpensive SRP promotional material through Upstart. Our particular
library system, however, is having a hard time getting excited about the
Cooperative's theme for next year: In the Winner's Circle at Your Library
- perhaps because we had a sports-related theme in 2000.

My questions are directed to those of you who aren't part of this
Cooperative: What is your state's SRP theme for 2002 and can libraries
from outside your state purchase promotional material? If so, how?

I will compile and share responses with pubyac.

Christine Neirink
Youth Services Coordinator
Bay County Library System
cneirink@vlc.lib.mi.us
989/894-2837, ext. 204

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From: Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Children's Services program coordinator job descriptions needed
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:12:23 CDT

Our system is planning to create a position for a
children's services person to oversee children's
programming for the system. We have 12 outlets in our
system. As we are working on the scope of this job, I
could use job descriptions from anyone out there that
has a similar position. Also any hints or things to
keep in mind that will help to make this a manageable
job!

Thanks so much!
Bonnie Janssen
Children's Services Coordinator
Alameda County Library
2450 Stevenson Blvd
Fremont, CA 94538
bjanssen@aclibrary.org
510-745-1591
FAX 510-793-2879

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From: "Dawn Sardes" <Dawn.Sardes@euclid.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: SRP promotino
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:12:43 CDT

We have 6 Catholic K-8 schools (each with about 75 grades 6 to 8 kids)
There is a public sr high with about 3500 kids, two 5-8 middle schools with
about 2000 each, and one elementary with a sixth grade population of about
300. I was not at this library last year, but only 6 kids completed summer
reading. So, I know my hair is perfectly safe, but I will do it if my
rather extraordinary goal is met.

Dawn

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:20 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: SRP promotino

Dawn, I think that's a great idea! Maybe I'll follow your example - but how
big is your library? The population you're serving? I and our branch
librarian together have never had more than 60 or 70 teens in our program -
we serve a population of 10,000, but many of the younger teens go to
sleepaway camp in the Summer. (In other words, I think I'd be pretty safe -
but I, too, would love to get enrollment up.)

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From: Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Book Cart drill team drills needed
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:13:15 CDT

One of our branches is planning to be in the Fourth of
July Parade and is looking for drills that the book
cart team can perform during the parade! Any ideas out
there?

Bonnie Janssen
Children's Services Coordinator
Alameda County Library
2450 Stevenson Blvd
Fremont, CA 94538
bjanssen@aclibrary.org
510-745-1591
FAX 510- 793-2879

__________________________________________________
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From: "Heather Stout" <Hstout.lew@valnet.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>,
Subject: RE: Trains
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:13:44 CDT

We had the most fun with a recent train program!! We couldn't figure
out a "craft" for little one's, as well as, elementary school age. As I
work weekly with both, I like to keep the same theme, but tweek the
program to fit the age. We found an "edible" car on the internet made
out of twinkies, and then we changed it to fit our own needs. The
recipe is as follows:
=20
Per Train:
=20
1 Twinkie
1 Regular oreo cookie
1 tiny oreo cookie
1 Regular white marshmellow
1 tiny white marshmellow
White Frosting

The twinkie is the base of your train. Unscrew your regular size oreo
and using white frosting (we used the can variety from the grocery
store), attach each 1/2 cookie to the side of the twinkie as the back
wheels of the engine. Now do the same with the small oreo for the front
wheels. The large marshmellow is attached w/ frosting at the back of
the engine, between the large wheels. The steam comes out from the tiny
marshmellow attached to the "front" of the engine, sort of between tht
two tiny wheels. Then gobble 'em up

I can't begin to tell you all how much fun this all was! Some children
finished there trains before eating, some did not. We even we able to
get the Twinkies donated from our local Snyder bakery thrift shop.=20

good luck!

Heather

Heather Stout

Community/Youth Services Librarian

Lewiston City Library

hstout.lew@valnet.org <mailto:hstout.lew@valnet.org>=20

=20

Has anyone done a train program for preschool, school-age or YA
recently? I need ideas.

Suzanne Robinson
Dickson County Public Library
Dickson, TN=20
srobinso@mail.state.tn.us

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From: Sharon Anderson <sharonKA@showme.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: buttonmaker
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:14:00 CDT

I am looking for a buttonmaker that is EASY to use. (My director is
supportive of my request, but shared her own horror stories of trying to
use one of these things in the past.) Does anyone have any suggestions?
Obviously, initial cost is a consideration, but so is staff time. Any
ideas? I call upon the wisdom of the elders :)

Thanks for the help.

Sharon Anderson
Youth Services Coordinator
Cape Girardeau Public Library
711 N. Clark St.
Cape Girardeau, MO. 63701

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: SRP promotino
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:14:18 CDT

Beware of Kool-Aid "dyeing" if you are very blonde. I had a towheaded
friend try this in college and she had to cut off all her hair because it
was permanently pink!

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shannan Sword [SMTP:slsword2000@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:20 AM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: RE: SRP promotino
>
> I think that sounds fabulous! Other people could do this and vary the
> number of people required depending on the size of your community. One
> thing though, I'd
> only promis a temporary dye - you know, those ones that wash out in a
> week. Another idea would be a "kool-aid" dye. This makes a very bright
> colour, but
> it will leak and stain your clothes if you get wet -but it is Very
> temporary.
>

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: getting prizes even cheaper!
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:14:52 CDT

to be perfectly honest I'm not sure...we did order A
LOT but it probably wouldn't hurt to ask.

I've heard from a couple of other people that he's
somewhat hard to get ahold of but if you persist it
could pay off.
--- Judy Stewart <stewartj@einetwork.net> wrote:
>
> Jennifer,
> Do you have any idea was this because you were
> ordering a significant
> amount? Our orders are generally small (under $50)
>
> Judy Stewart
> Community Library of Allegheny Valley

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From: "Cline, Andrea" <andrea@camden.lib.nj.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: YA collection development budget
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:15:09 CDT

I need your help again with YAs. My library is trying to figure out how
much of the budget should be spent on ya collection development. At the
present moment, we don't have any money set aside for this group. In July,
the library has its budget retreat. We need to let them know how much we
think should be spent on YAs. So if anyone could tell me how much of their
budget goes to YA I would greatly appreciate it. If you can recommend any
articles that talk about this subject I would love that too.

Thanks in advance,
Andrea

========================================
Andrea Rappa
Children's Department
Camden County Library
203 Laurel Road, Voorhees, N.J. 08043
(856) 772-1636
andrea@camden.lib.nj.us
http://www.camden.lib.nj.us

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From: nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: SPR Internet scavenger hunt
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:15:26 CDT

Dear Collective Brain

I want to design a an Internet scavenger hunt for the teen part of
our SRP, "Reading Road Trip, USA", but I am not sure how to go
about it. (They will also be reading materials related to regions and
states. The content can be about the area or located in the area
they choose.) This would be completed on an individual basis, not
as a group. They would then be eligble for a weekly drawing. I
don't want the hunt to be too much like school and yet I would
hope that the web sites would be ones they might refer to in the
future. Has anyone designed an Internet scavenger hunt before,
what pitfalls should I look for, what works well?

What kinds of things should they look for? I've thought about
theme parks and national parks but wonder if they will even be
interested. Any suggestions for exciting elements in your state?

Thank you.

Nancy Bostrom, Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library
701 W. Main
Lewistown, MT 59457
406-538-5212
nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org

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From: Jeanette Larson <larsonlibrary@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Summer Reading Interview NYT
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:15:46 CDT

Last month Clifford Wohl, a former New York City
schoolteacher and bookstore owner; Martha Davis Beck,
editor of Riverbank Review; Molly S. Kinney, the
children's consultant to the Georgia Public Libraries;
and myself were interviewed by the New York Time
Children's Book Review editor about summer reading.
The interview was published in the 5/21/01 NYT Book
Review. The article is also available online at
http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/05/20/reviews/010520.20kidssyt.html

=====
Jeanette Larson
Youth Services Manager
Austin Public Library
P.O. Box 2287
Austin, TX 78768-2287
512-499-7405
larsonlibrary@yahoo.com

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From: wwilson2 <wwilson2@woh.rr.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: CD's vs. tapes
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:16:14 CDT

Donna Moran wrote:
We've also been adding more books on CD.

    I'm certainly not quarreling with Donna, but how do you guys feel
about books on CD's? They seem so awkward to me. I mostly listen to
books on cassette in my car, and when I need to turn of the tape, I just
eject. I can always find my place again with no problem and can even
rewind a bit if I need a review of what's happening. There is usually
little choice about when to stop, so I can't wait for a chapter end or
whatever. People say that it's easy to get back through the bands to
the point at which you stop, but it always involves a lot of replay for
me, which makes the book take a lot longer. And at home it isn't too
different. If I were to listen to a book at home, I would never sit
still long enough for a whole CD. Nor can you use CD's when you're
walking or certainly jogging.
    And, while CD's are great for music, I don't really need all that
quality to listen to the reading of a book. So why go the extra expense
or the extra trouble that CD care requires? Librarians as a group are
the only ones who can keep this lack of multiple options from becoming
reality.
    I won't be ordering books on CD (but then, I'm so old fashioned I'm
not sure I want to have music on CD either--right now we have nothing).
    Is this a topic we can discuss without getting emotional?
        Cassie Wilson
        St. Marys, OH

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From: Cindy Patterson <cindy@billings.lib.mt.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: YA Encyclopedia responses
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:16:31 CDT

I would like to thank all who responded to my request for a good YA
reference encyclopedia. The overwhelming response was World Book with
the addition of World Book Online. We are having an Open House for our
new teen center the "Teen Pit" tomorrow night and I appreciate all of
your input!

Cindy Patterson, Youth Services Librarian
Parmly Billings Library
510 N. Broadway
Billings, MT 59101 (406) 657-8256
cindy@billings.lib.mt.us

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From: "Taylor Juvenile" <taylorjuv@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: baseball team names
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:16:49 CDT

Dear Pubyacers,
Our Summer Reading Program theme this year is Score Big With Books and is
centered around baseball. We are staging a competition for the summer and
the kids will sign up for one of two "baseball" teams.
We need some good names for the teams and would like them to be
reading-based, like "Reading Raiders".Any and all suggestions from you would
be welcome.
Thanks!
Gloria Adams
Taylor Library
Cuyahoga Falls, OH
taylorjuv@hotmail.com
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From: woodk@carnegielibrary.org (Kathy Maron-Wood)
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: miniature girl and thimble
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:17:10 CDT

Hi all. . .I am once again in need of your
collective minds.
A customer is looking for the following:
a book with a miniature girl, full-sized boy,
and a thimble that gets carried off by a
balloon. He also remembers that in one chapter
the girl tames a beetle. He claims it was
written in the early 1960s and at least
pre-1965.
Our thoughts here were The Borrowers but he
didn't think that was it. After he left
we looked at The Borrowers Afield/Aloft and while
Aloft looked close, it wasn't quite what he was
asking for. Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Kathy

Kathy Maron-Wood
Senior Librarian, Children's Dept
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
woodk@carnegielibrary.org
412-622-3122

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From: Jennifer Longbrake <longbrj1@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: stumper:elephants in japan answer found
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:17:38 CDT

Thank all of you who helped to find this information. I do believe the
following is the correct title for my patron. We even have it in our
collection. I did not use Tokyo in my search which is why I could not
find it originally. We have it as a Juvenile fiction in our collection.

Thank you again to all of you who responded to my question.

Have a great day,
Jenni

AUTHOR       Tsuchiya, Yukio, 1904-
TITLE        Faithful elephants : a true story of animals, people, and war
/
                Yukio Tsuchiya ; illustrated by Ted Lewin ; translated by
                Tomoko Tsuchiya Dykes.
              Kawaiso na zo. English.
PUBLISHER    Boston : Houghton Mifflin, 1988.

---------------------------------------------------------
Jennifer Berning Longbrake
Youth Services Librarian
Amelia Branch Library
Amelia, OH
longbrj1@oplin.lib.oh.us
---------------------------------------------------------

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From: "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>
To: "Pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper-owl pellets
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:17:55 CDT

Hi Folks,
I'm looking for book for someone that was read around 1983 (no idea how old
it was at that time) where two children find owl pellets with interesting
historical objects in the woods (I'm unclear whether the objects are in the
pellets or just with them....I didn't take the orginal request). An adult
pursues the children so they will tell him where the valuable items came
from.

reading level 10-14 years old.

Thanks so much,
Ruth Shafer
Youth Services Librarian
Vancovuer, WA

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From: "Ruhama J. Kordatzky" <rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us>
To: "'pubyac'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: states booklist--LONG!!!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:18:10 CDT

Hi everyone--
You were all very helpful with books about Delaware and North Dakota!
After many requests, I'm posting this rather lengthy list. Realize three
things: I tried to focus on fiction titles that are contemporary (as
opposed to historical fiction), the WI titles will be longer than the rest
(for good reason), and I mostly included books that my library owns (so my
patrons can use the list easily--without ILL'ing or going to other
libraries) or will own soon. Also, the J call number is juvenile, and the
Y call number is YA.

Happy reading!

Read Your Way Across America!

Books that take place in:

Alabama
Y CUR The Watsons Go to Birmingham--1963 Christopher Paul Curtis
Y LEE To Kill a Mockingbird Harper Lee

Alaska
J HIL Toughboy and Sister Kirkpatrick Hill
J ODE Black Star, Bright Star Scott O'Dell

Arizona
J ARN Mystery of Superstition Mountain Oren Arnold
Y DEV Where I Want to Be Cara DeVito
Y KOE The Arizona Kid Ronald Koertge
Y SPI Stargirl Jerry Spinelli

Arkansas
J BRA The Adventures of Johnny May Robbie Bransum
J GRE Summer of my German Solider Bette Greene

California
J SNY Cat Running Zilpha Keafley Snyder
PB-YA The Boll Weevil Express P.J. Peterson
Y BLO Weetzie Bat Francesca Lia Block
Y CAD The Edge Michael Cadnum
Y CUS The Ballad of Lucy Whipple Karen Cushman'

Colorado
J KAR The Great Turkey Walk Kathleen Karr
J MYE Climb or Die Edward Myers

Connecticut
J COL War Comes to Willy Freeman James Lincoln Collier
J PEC Nine Man Tree Robert Newton Peck

Delaware
J KEE Moon of Two Dark Horses Sally Keehn
suggestions that I will be purchasing: Come Morning Leslie Guccione
Spindrift Colby Rodowski
Water Rat Marnie Laird

Florida
J DIC Because of Winn-Dixie Kate DiCamillo
J KUD Night Bird Kathleen Kudlinski
J LEN Strawberry Girl Lois Lenski
J RAW The Yearling Marjorie Rawlings
Y BLO Tangerine Edward Bloor
Y PAT Someone Was Watching David Pateaude
Y WOL Wish You Were Here Hilma Wolitzer

Georgia
J YOU Moving Mama to Town Ronder Thomas Young
Y HEW Lives of Our Own Lori Hewett
Y KRI Spite Fences Trudy Krishner

Hawaii
J SLE The Broccoli Tapes Jan Slepian
Y SAL Under the Blood-Red Sun Graham Salisbury

Idaho
J HAM The Garden of Eden Motel Morse Hamilton
Y WYS Here at the Scenic-Vu Motel Thelma Hatch Wyss

Illinois
J PEC A Long Way to Chicago Richard Peck
J SHU The Search for Grissi M.S. Craig

Indiana
Y SHO Stranded in Harmony Barbara Shoup

Iowa
J HOR An Occasional Cow Polly Horvath
Y BAU Squashed Joan Bauer

Kansas
J IRW Jim-Dandy Hadley Irwin
J LAN Mom, There's a Pig in my Bed! Francess Lin Lantz

Kentucky
J CRE Chasing Redbird Sharon Creech
Y CAN A Bellsong for Sarah Raines Bettie Waddell Cannon

Louisiana
Y COV Lizard Dennis Covington

Maine
J FOX Western Wind Paula Fox
J LIN The Worry Week Anne Lindberg
J WIG Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm Kate Wiggin

Maryland
J PAT Jacob Have I Loved Katherine Paterson
J RIN Amelia's War Ann Rinaldi
Y RIN Mine Eyes Have Seen Ann Rinaldi
Y VOI Dicey's Song Cynthia Voigt

Massachusetts
J AVI Blue Heron Avi
J WIL Becoming Felix Nancy Hope Wilson
Y HAN The Captive Joyce Hansen
Y PAT Lyddie Katherine Paterson
Y RIN Broken Days Ann Rinaldi
Y WER The Killer's Cousin Nancy Werlin

Michigan
Y FOR Becca's Story James D. Forman
Y WHE Once on this Island Gloria Whelan

Minnesota
J PAU A Christmas Sonata Gary Paulsen
J QUI Signs of Spring Patrick Quinn

Mississippi
Y BEL Zack William Bell
Y TAY The Well: David's Story Mildred D. Taylor
Y TAY Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry Mildred D. Taylor

Missouri
Y KER Deliver Us from Evie M.E. Kerr
Y RAB Hiding Mr. McMulty Berniece Rabe

Montana
Y PHI Max the Mighty W.R. Philbrick

Nebraska
J CON My Daniel Pam Conrad
J CON Prairie Songs Pam Conrad
J RUC Night of the Twisters Ivy Ruckman

Nevada
Y MAN Comedy High Stephen Manes

New Hampshire
J ALC An Old Fashioned Thanksgiving Louisa May Alcott
J BLO A Gathering of Days Joan Blos

New Jersy
J COH The Orphan Game Barbara Cohen
J ROB Henry Reed, Inc. Keith Robertson
Y SHE Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen Dyan Sheldon

New Mexico
Y GRE Twilight Boy Timothy Green

New York
J SAN The Legend of Sleepy Hollow Robert San Souci
Y SHU Downsiders Neal Shusterman
Y MAZ Good Night, Maman Norma Fox Mazer

North Carolina
J HAH Following My Own Footsteps Mary Downing Hahn
Y OLE With Wings as Eagles Patsy Baker O'Leary

North Dakota
J WIL By the Shores of Silver Lake Laura Ingalls Wilder
suggestions that I will be purchasing: Jake's Orphan Margaret Brooke
A Year Without Rain Anne Love
River Friendly, River Wild Jane Kurtz

Ohio
J HIC Susannah Janet Hickman
J MIL I Would If I Could Betty Miles
J RIN The Second Bend in the River Ann Rinaldi

Oklahoma
J MYE Fire in the Hills Anna Myers
J HES Out of the Dust Karen Hesse
J MYE Red-Dirt Jesse Anna Myers

Oregon
J WOL Bat 6 Virginia Euwer Wolff
J MOR Year of the Black Pony Walt Morey
J CLE Emily's Runaway Imagination Beverly Cleary

Pennsylvania
J JEN The Riddle of Penncroft Farm Dorothea Jensen
J SKU Goodbye, Billy Radish Gloria Skurzynski
Y KER Linger M.E. Kerr

Rhode Island
J AVI Something Upstairs Avi

South Carolina
Y MYE The Glory Field Walter Dean Myers
Y RIN Cast Two Shadows Ann Rinaldi

South Dakota
J MAC Little House on Rocky Ridge Roger Lea MacBride

Tennessee
Y MAR Night Riding Katherine Martin

Texas
PB-YA Angels on the Roof Martha Moore
Y ALT Luke and the Van Zandt County War Judy Alter
Y SAC Holes Louis Sachar

Utah
J FIT More Adventures of the Great Brain John D. Fitzgerald

Vermont
J PAT Jip Katherine Paterson
J PAT Preacher's Boy Katherine Paterson
J PEC Soup Robert Newton Peck
Y PEC A Day No Pigs Would Die Robert Newton Peck

Virginia
J BUL A Lion to Guard Us Robert Clyde Bulla
Y HAA You Can Call Me Worm Dan Haas
Y WHI Belle Prater's Boy Ruth White

Washington D.C.
PB-YA The Dreams of Mairhe Mehan Jennifer Armstrong
Y RIN An Acquaintenace with Darkness Ann Rinaldi
Y WHI The President's Daughter Ellen Emerson White

Washington
J GUI Turtle People Bredna Guiberson
J HOL Our Only May Amelia Jennifer Holm

West Virginia
J NAY The Girls Get Even Phyllis Reynolds Naylor
Y MCK The Brightest Light Colleen McKenna

Wisconsin
J BRI Caddie Woodlawn Carol Ryrie Brink
J ENR Thimble Summer Elizabeth Enright
J LAW Come Away with me Laurie Lawlor
J NOR Rascal Sterling North
J POL Life's a Funny Proposition, Horation Barbara Polikoff
J TAP The Ghostmobile Kathy Kennedy Tapp
J WIL Little House in the Big Woods Laura Ingalls Wilder
J ZIE The Elderberry Thicket Joan Zeier
Y BAU Hope Was Here Joan Bauer
Y HAL Flyaway Lynn Hall
Y NOR The Wolfling Sterling North
Y PAU The Island Gary Paulsen
Y QUA Revolutions of the Heart Marsha Qualey

Wyoming
J PAU The Haymeadow Gary Paulsen
PB-YA Red Dog Bill Wallace

:) ruhama

Ruhama Kordatzky
Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library
Burlington, WI
rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us

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From: "Liz Maggio" <liz@palos-verdes.lib.ca.us>
To: "pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: 2nd and 3rd grade classics--LONG
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:18:29 CDT

HI everone--Here are the responses that I received regarding classics for
2nd and 3rd graders. There were many duplications (great minds think
alike!), but all of the suggestions are great. Thanks to everyone who
replied!
Liz Maggio
Young Readers Librarian
Palos Verdes Library District
Rolling Hills Estates, CA

Here they are:

Look in the World Book Encyclopedia for the article "Literature for
Children." There are book lists of good stuff, classics I would think, that
is divided by age groups.
Dorothy Elmwood Park Public Library Youth Services hollandd@sls.lib.il.us

There are the Thornton Burgess "Old Mother West Wind" series" Originally 60
some titles
in all. Also the "Freddy the Pig" series by Brooks. Some third graders can
read
the "Ramona" books by Cleary. Also, "Betsy" books by Carolyn Haywood. Some
of DeAngeli's things can be read by that age group, and for something a
little more modern the David Adler "Cam Jansen" series and the Fourth Floor
Twins series.\
Hope this helps. Sherry Collins Horseheads Free Library Horseheads NY

Perhaps they would like some modern classics such as _Charlotte's Web.
Some children in Grades 2 and 3 are reading Harry Potter, too (like my own
niece), so perhaps we shouldn't underestimate the draw of a good book!
Ellen Heaney Head, Children's Services New Westminster Public Library New
Westminster, British Columbia

How about The Velveteen rabbit or Many moons. Both are really classics and
not too hard for 2nd and 3rd grade readers. Winnie the Pooh should fit the
bill, especially if you have a book with just a few of the Pooh stories in
it--we have one with just a few chapters in it. A collection of fairy tales
would certainly be a classic. Hope these uggestions help--I'll probably
think of a whole bunch more later! Sandy

The third graders at my school are reading Pippi Longstocking. I would also
suggest "Fog Magic" or the Edward Eager books if they don't mind magic.
(many parents at my school do).

How about Gannett's My father's dragon, and others in the series?
Homer Price by McCloskey
Mr. Popper's Penguins
The Frog and Toad books by Lobel
Elizabeth Overmyer Doug and Elizabeth Overmyer overmyer@pacbell.net

Little House on the Prairie, The Great Brain, Sarah Plain and Tall, Roald
Dahl's books, Frog and Toad books, or Betsy-Tacy books by Maud Hart
Lovelace? They're not all as classic as Treasure Island, but they're much
easier to read.
Hope this helps, Allison Children's Librarian
Benicia Public Library aangell@snap.lib.ca.us

Here are some suggestions for classic children's books for 2nd and 3rd
grade:
Misty of the Chincoteague - Marguerite Henry
Sideways Stories from Wayside School - Louis Sachar
The Giving Tree - Shel Silverstein
Where the Sidewalk Ends - Shel Silverstein
My Father's Dragon - Ruth Stiles Gannett
The Boxcar Children series - Gertrude Chandler Warner
Fantastic Mr. Fox - Roald Dahl
The Magic Finger - Roald Dahl
Stuart Little - E. B. White
The Whipping Boy - Sid Fleischman (Newbery Award 1987)
The Stinky Cheese Man - Jon Scieszka (Caldecott Honor 1993)
Fables - Arnold Lobel
Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing - Judy Blume
Superfudge - Judy Blume
Mrs. Piggle-wiggle - Betty MacDonald
Little House in the Big Woods - Laura Ingalls Wilder
Hope this helps, Jackie

Why don't you suggest some of the shorter Newbery books or some of the
longer Caldecott books, especially those published several decades ago?
Explain to patron that they are classics because of the award that they
received.
Beverly Bixler San Antonio Public Library, TX

I would not consider the Wishbone series to be classics--they're fun, but
they're not the real thing. I would suggest the following picture books if
parents would accept them:
Madeline series by Bemelmans
Story of Babar by Brunhoff
Mike Mulligan and his steam shovel by Burton
Story of Ferdinand by Leaf
Make way for ducklings by McCloskey
Blueberries for Sal by McCloskey
Little Bear series by Minarik
Tale of Peter Rabbit and others by Potter
Curious George series by Rey
Cat in the Hat and others by Dr. Seuss
Harry the Dirty dog by Zion

In addition I would suggest fairy tales such as the Grimm's tales or
Cinderella by Perrault, and also Aesop's fables.

Some easy fiction for better readers include:
Bears on Hemlock Mountain by Dalgliesh
Courage of Sarah Noble by Dalgliesh
Cabin faced west by Fritz
My father's dragon and others in series by Gannett
Reluctant dragon by Grahame
Betsy series by Haywood
Just so stories for little children by Kipling
Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle by MacDonald
House at Pooh Corner by Milne
Cricket in Times Square by Seldon
Hope you can use this info.
Celeste Fong Librarian South Ontario Branch Library
2403-D Vineyard Ave. Ontario, CA 91761
(909) 395-2251 Fax: (909) 930-0836 mfong@ci.ontario.ca.us

It bugs me when teachers make this kind of assignment. It is totally age
inappropriate. However, there are simple versions of Robin
Hood which might do. We also have some "Step-Up Classics" and "Bullseye
Classics" which are simplified versions of many of the great classics.
Obviously the child only gets the plot and none of the richness of the
language or depth of meaning, but maybe these would meet your need.

HarperCollins is now putting out the "Little House Chapter Book" series with
text adapted (read, simplified) for younger readers. If the Little House
books are considered classics yet, these might work. What do you think about
suggesting some of the "classic" folktales, like "The Three Billy Goats
Gruff" or the "Three Bears" or the "Three Little Pigs", etc.? (I suppose
these would probably strike the parents as picture books.) Rosemary Wells
has done a beautiful and simplified version of "Lassie Come Home" that a
good third grade reader might be able to handle.

Is this a reading assignment only for the kids? I wonder if parents could
read some of the recognized classics aloud to their children? Just a
thought. Hope this helps.
Franja Bryant Children's Librarian Lake Hills Library Bellevue, Wa

I often point parents to the fairly recent Eyewitness "Classics," which are
watered down versions of books like Oliver Twist and Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde,
but they do give a lot of really good background information. I also
recommend the Wishbone books because they have the essential plot written in
language familiar to today's kids. But. like you said, so many parents (and
kids!) want the "real thing" without realizing how frustrating Victorian
language is to 21st century kids. I also just remembered a series that we
do not carry, but most bookstores still have - those Great Illustrated
Classics. My son used to read and enjoy them. Enough rambling.
Cindi Carey Lacey, Washington

Would it be possible to show them some of the "Step Into Classics"? These
are Hi-Lo's that keep the essential story, but bring the reading level
down. They are generally published by Random House--we have Little Women,
Tarzan of the Apes, Jane Eyre to name a few.
Ruhama Kordatzky Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library Burlington, WI
rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us

I would recommend checking with the teachers to see what they consider
classics. I won't try to second guess a teacher (guess I'm paranoid about
that) and always have the parent/child go back to the source for
clarification. Some may think age constitutes classic; that's about as
clear and easy as defining when middle age begins/ends! Others may mean
prolific or well-known authors who are perhaps even still writing (Cleary,
for example). One teacher I knew defined classics as something she would
have read as a child (like kids that age know how old their teachers are!
Anyone over 30 to a 2nd grader might as well be a grandparent!).

We have a list from the early '90s of "classic" books (not sure of the
source of the list) that I can fax to you if you would like. The breakdown
isn't as grade-specific as you might prefer (basically elementary, jr. high,
high school), but it may help. Just let me know your fax if you'd like it!
Beverly Kirkendall Manager-Youth Services
bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us Hurst Public Library
Hurst, TX

What about things like Dick King-Smith,
Hope this helps.
Colleen Hall Jessamine County Public Library
600 S. Main St. Nicholasville, KY 40356
859-885-3523 chall@withers.org

Here are some suggestions from my collections of lists, depending on how you
define "classic":
Arabel and Mortimer (Joan Aiken)
Elsie Piddock Skips in Her Sleep (Eleanor Farjeon)
The Great Brain series (John D. Fitzgerald) *highly recommended!!!
McBroom books (Sid Fleischman)
Strawberry Girl (Lois Lenski)
Pippi Longstocking (Astrid Lindgren)
Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle (Betty MacDonald)
The Light Princess (George MacDonald)
Homer Price (Robert McCloskey)
The Cricket in Times Square (George Selden)
Understood Betsy (Dorothy Canfield Fisher)
Chronicles of Narnia (C. S. Lewis)
Betsy-Tacy books (Maud Hart Lovelace)
All-of-a-Kind Family (Sydney Taylor) *my childhood favorite!!!

Of course these are only a sampling by the above authors. Most of them have
never disappointed me through my long acquaintance. If you need more,
please let me know. And, by the way, I would encourage the parents to read
Peter Pan, even if they have to read it aloud to their children. One of my
all-time favorites, and much better than the Disney adaptation! :) Good
Luck.
Megan VanderHart Rock Island Public Library
401 19th St. Rock Island, IL 61201

On the Hornbook site is a wonderful list of classics for children -
http://www.hbook.com/childclass1.shtml

it's also available as a PDF file to print from this page
http://www.hbook.com/parents.shtml

Charlotte Lesser, Director of Elementary Library Services Monadnock
Regional School District
c/o Mt Caesar School 585 Old Homestead Hwy.
E. Swanzey, NH 03446 Phone: (603) 352-4797 Fax: (603) 352 1713 email:
clesser@sau38.org
Find us on the web: http://www.mrsd.org/~library

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