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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:02 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 473


    PUBYAC Digest 473

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) animals in the library
by "melissa Brown" <somanykids@hotmail.com>
  2) RE: animals in the library
by "Keener, Lesa" <LKeener@acmail.aclink.org>
  3) Code of Acceptable Behavior
by "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
  4) Re: Teacher Collections = A Bad Idea!
by Marcia Schaffer <schaffma@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  5) RE: animals in the library
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
  6) Re: animals in the library
by Helen Mochetti <helenlido@yahoo.com>
  7) bibliotherapy (coping)recommendations needed
by "Debbie Vander Maas" <dvmaas@hotmail.com>
  8) Re: animals in the library
by pat powers <opat49@yahoo.com>
  9) Graduate student seeking advice
by HOPEFULFARM@toolkitmail.com
 10) Re: animals in the library
by "Cindy Rider" <crider@vigo.lib.in.us>
 11) KidsClick! Project: same home, new parents
by Randy Enos <renos@rcls.org>
 12) Teacher's Collections -- What SHOULD We DO?
by "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
 13) Youth Services position at Austin Public Library
by Jeanette Larson <larsonlibrary@yahoo.com>
 14) Thanks to everyone!
by "ysstaff" <ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>

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From: "melissa Brown" <somanykids@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: animals in the library
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:36:40 CDT

I cannot take credit for this idea but what about library budgies? The
smaller kids could sit under the cage and read to the birds. A few plants
could be placed around the bottom of the cage which would also create a very
attractive corner in the library. The sound of birds is always lovely....
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From: "Keener, Lesa" <LKeener@acmail.aclink.org>
To: 'Mary Witten Frasier ' <mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us>,
Subject: RE: animals in the library
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:37:12 CDT

 Reminds me of the time of the squashed
 caterpillars. We receive  caterpillars each year from a nice woman and we
let them go when they hatch. One year she gave us a different type. It seems
that the  caterpillars were smaller and got through the grate on top of the
tank. I cannot believe that the early morning cleaning people steppped on
them all.  They did not see 10 caterpillars on the step or at least clean
them up!
From: Mary Witten Frasier
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Sent: 6/11/01 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: animals in the library



Over the years we have had snakes, fish, turtles, tadpoles and frogs.
We
used to hatch chicks every spring until one sad year when none hatched.
We stopped hatching chicks that year, when the smell of rotting eggs
overtook the department.


Mary Frasier
mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us

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From: "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Code of Acceptable Behavior
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:37:35 CDT

There has been a lot of discussion on unattended children's policies as we =
all deal with juvniles, but does anyone have a (for lack of a better term) =
"Code of Acceptable Behavior" that is actually posted in the library for =
the general public?  If so, would you mind sharing?  Or if it is on your =
library's website, that would be fine, too!=20

Thanks for your help!
Beverly Kirkendall
bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us=20
Library Manager--Youth Services
Hurst Public Library
Hurst, TX

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From: Marcia Schaffer <schaffma@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Teacher Collections = A Bad Idea!
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:38:04 CDT

Here!  Here!  I agree! I think it's important to all work together!




10:11 AM 6/8/01 CDT, you wrote:
>Lighten up and remember that we are here to serve.  That includes teachers
and everyone else.  I send out over 12,000 books, etc., every year to K-8
teachers and find them wonderful to work with and I always remember that
when a teacher is using a book with her class, at least 25 kids are also
using that book at the same time.  It is just too easy to paint this whole
subject with a broad brush and say "NO".  We are not in the "just say NO"
business.
>
>Sincerely,
>Jeanne Achenbach
>
>R. Jeanne Achenbach
>Elementary School Services Specialist
>Arlington Heights Memorial Library
>500 North Dunton
>Arlington Heights, IL  60004
>phone 847-506-2631  fax 847-506-2655
>
>
>
Smiles,

Marcia  ;)

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: animals in the library
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:38:27 CDT


How about a nice goldfish??

--fish may be fun and pretty but I wouldn't recommend
goldfish. They produce A LOT of ammonia and dirty
their water very fast. If you decide on fish go to a
good pet store and find out which ones are
low-maintenance. Dirty fish tanks are gross and see
dead library buddies floating at the top might be
traumatizing for kids and staff.


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From: Helen Mochetti <helenlido@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: animals in the library
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:38:59 CDT

We do not have cats or dogs because so many people are
allergic to them.  We do have, however, a rabbit and a
guinea pig who live together and were raised
together...the woman who owned them used to bring them
to nursing homes for pet therapy, so they are very
well behaved and socialized. We also presently have a
hamster. Our Children's Room is very large, and the
animals are in cages in a small alcove, out of the
ordinary lanes of traffic. There is an air
purifier/filter beside the cages to minimize any
dander in the air aound them. The animals are taken
out of their cages once a day in the morning, and
placed on a table which is washed after the "showing".
Children and parents may pet or hold the animals,
after we've checked with a parent or adult with the
child that there are no allergies. The animals do not
run around the room. We felt there were benefitsto
having a small animal or two in the Children's Room,
but we, too, were worried about kids/adults with
allergies. We checked with a local doctor and vet for
ideas on minimizing allergy risk.
Helen Mochetti
Westerly Public Library
Westerly, RI

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From: "Debbie Vander Maas" <dvmaas@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: bibliotherapy (coping)recommendations needed
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:39:27 CDT

I am a library studies student developing a bibliography of children's
picture books concerning bibliotherapy and how kids cope with first time
issues.  I would like suggestions for good, quality books that have been
published within the past 3 years.  The topics I would like input on are
death (of relatives and pets), divorce, medical (doctor, dentist,
hospitals), first day of school, new baby and adoption, and toilet training.

Thanks for your help.
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From: pat powers <opat49@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: animals in the library
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:39:54 CDT

We settled the pet question by adopting a "stuffed"
monkey.  His name is Cha-Cha.  We introduced him at a
story hour with a story about a family of monkeys who
live in a tree, but were going to build a house.  We
made Cha-Cha a palm tree and later helped him build a
house.  Both the tree and the house sit on our desk
with Cha-Cha, who has a whole collection of hats,
musical instruments, clothes and other paraphanalia.
We wrote his name and address on his front door and
his has his own basket/mailbox for all the postcards
that both patrons and staff send him when they travel.
 Cha-Cha comes to all our story hours, as well as
other library programs.  He recently traveled to
Virginia for my son's wedding.  He has been very well
recieved and he's a piece of cake to take care of!!!!
Pat Powers, Tewksbury Public Library

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From: HOPEFULFARM@toolkitmail.com
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Graduate student seeking advice
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:40:18 CDT

Hello everyone, As a requirement for a graduate course I am taking in
Library
Information and Science, I had to subscribe to a list and report on what's
being discussed. I have enjoyed reading your comments to each other and
really
like the professional way each of you reply to another. I have been
especially
intriqued with the discussion on teacher collections.  Is there a rivalry
between public libraries and public school libraries? Some of the comments
seem
to indicate that lines are sometimes drawn, while others seem to think the
patron (student) is more important than what's yours and what's mine. What's
the real scoop on this?  Also, we're debating in class about the importance
of
separate YA collections in public libraries. How do some of you feel about
that
issue?  What is the hottest issue facing public librarians at this point in
time?  Thanks in advance for any comments. Debbie
Johnson

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From: "Cindy Rider" <crider@vigo.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:40:47 CDT

Mary,
Back in the early 70s when my son, now almost 29, was a preschooler, =
seeing the snake in Monroe County's children's room was one of the =
highlights of our visits.  Another was the big wooden truck he could sit =
on and ride around.  We loved Puck Players and storytime in the auditorium!=
  This was when the "old" library was the "new" library!!

Cindy Rider
Vigo Co. Public Library

<<< Mary Witten Frasier <mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us>  6/11 10:27a >>>


Over the years we have had snakes, fish, turtles, tadpoles and frogs.  We
used to hatch chicks every spring until one sad year when none hatched.
We stopped hatching chicks that year, when the smell of rotting eggs
overtook the department.


Mary Frasier
mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us



                       =20

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From: Randy Enos <renos@rcls.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: KidsClick! Project: same home, new parents
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:41:09 CDT

 KidsClick!, the "Web Search for Kids by Librarians" service,
will soon have its first
change in management. Starting in June, 2001 The Colorado State Library
will oversee the
development and maintenance of the KidsClick! web site
[http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/KidsClick!/]
and database of cataloged sites. Originally developed by the Ramapo
Catskill Library System
(Middletown, NY), KidsClick! has been managed by RCLS since February,
1998. The Berkeley Digital
Library SunSITE provides hosting services, allowing KidsClick! to handle

traffic that nears 10,000
visitors per hour during peak school hours.
        KidsClick! was initiated as a positive response to both the
polarizing filtering debate
and a dearth of quality web search services for children. Although
seeded with a 1997 $12,000
Library Services and Technology Act grant, the project has operated
without a budget since that
time, relying on the efforts of its corps of volunteer maintainers and
its hosting institutions.
KidsClick!'s technical design was based on the Librarians' Index to the
Internet, and was adapted
through the efforts of Roy Tennant on the SunSITE end and Jerry Kuntz on

the RCLS end.
        With hundreds of schools and public libraries linking to
KidsClick!, it remains one of the
most successful web projects developed by a library institution.
KidsClick! catalogs over 6500
hand-selected sites, offering comparatively lengthy (and indexed) site
descriptions, a reading
level indication, and a graphical content indication. It provides
hierarchical subject browsing,
keyword searching, alphabetical subject browsing, online search skill
tutorials, and links to
spell checkers, image search sites, sound search sites, and other search

sites. KidsClick!'s list
of cataloged sites has long been made public, offered freely to
interested non-profit or for
profit organizations.
        Concurrent with the management change, KidsClick! will be
soliciting for new volunteers to
suggest and catalog sites.  The Colorado State Library has already
adapted use of the KidsClick!
database in its Colorado Virtual Library For Kids web site
[http://www.aclin.org/]. With this
experience and access to the Berkeley database and maintenance files,
the Colorado State Library
is positioned to test alternate methods of accessing the KidsClick!
database.
           For more information or to volunteer as a KidsClick! site
selector (you must be a
professional librarian or library school student), contact
kclick@sunsite.berkeley.edu


--
Jerry Kuntz
Electronic Resources Consultant
Ramapo Catskill Library System
jkuntz@rcls.org
Author, KidsClick! Web Searching Skills Guide,
http://www.neal-schuman.com/db/3/173.html


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From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
To: PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children
 <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Teacher's Collections -- What SHOULD We DO?
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:42:09 CDT

Responding to: Judith Campbell (excerpt)
<jcampbel@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:15:20 CDT

"Had to weigh in on this one.  Yes, teachers SHOULD alert public
libraries
about upcoming assignments.  Yes, teachers SHOULD come to the public
library
themselves.  Yes, school libraries SHOULD be adequately funded &
staffed.
Yes, teachers & parents SHOULD direct students to the public library for

help."
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Thus we should give over collections to Teachers and
provide Library service in accordance with their dictates
and their own personal convenience?   I think that
Librarians need to take the initiative and put what we
believe to be the best interests of all of the Students
first.   In order to do this, Librarians will have to take
the initiative.

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"Now, let's talk real world.  School libraries are not adequately funded
and
staffed; all the shoulds in the world are not going to change that
anytime
soon."
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This is also correct.   "Shoulds" won't change matters.  So, what
can we DO?   Here are some suggestions.

1.   Library Directors should make contact with School
Superintendents at Chambers of Commerce, Rotary, etc.
and speak out in favor of the need for the Schools to
fund comprehensive Library Service to Students.    Don't
be passed off to an Assistant Principal.  Talk to the Top
People and maintain that "first name" contact.

2.  Do you have Library Board Members who are influential
in the Schools?  If so, get them involved and advocating
on behalf of Libraries.  Some of the kinds of arguments
I have been presenting on this list might prove to be
helpful.  I'm sure that there are others, as well.

3.   Make your self known to School Board Members
and socialize when possible and public functions with
these influential persons.  These persons are also parents
who value their children's education.  They may need
to hear the Library perspective.

4.   Make contact with and keep in touch with State
Legislators.   The State Legislature has very important
leverage over Public Education in the State.   Keep
in close contact and let it be known that you know
them and that they know you!

5.   Take every public speaking opportunity you can to
promote the notion that Schools should provide Library
Service in support of their own curriculum.  "Why
should every school not have a school library?"  "Library
service in support of education is essential to improved
learning."   "Why not keep school libraries open after
classes let out so that kids can do their homework before
mom and dad get home."

6.  Use the local media to do press releases, columns and
other public forums to promote the concept that schools
need to join in a partnership with public libraries by
providing library service to support the homework and
study of their own students.

7.  Get on a local radio or TV station to do the same.

Library Administrators and Children's Librarians can
sometimes have considerable influence among the local
population.   While Teachers are often out on strike or
clamoring for higher salaries, Librarians are seldom
related in the public mind to this kind of approach and
demand upon the public purse for personal advantage.
When the public hears Librarians, they should hear
about service opportunities beneficial to their kids and
not about being "underpaid".

Remember that a Public Library Director reporting to
a Board of Trustees is a CEO on a par with a
School Superintendent.   A Head of a Children's
Services Department should feel free to call a
School Principal and deal on an equal footing.
If they are "too busy", ask for a call back or
schedule and appointment.  Don't talk to lower
echelon people.

Using whatever influence we can on the local level,
Librarians can rise above the dictates and demands
of Teachers and advocate on behalf of putting what
is best for the Students (our Patrons) ahead of
Teacher convenience.

James B. Casey --- My own views as a public
librarian and ALA Council Member Elect.

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From: Jeanette Larson <larsonlibrary@yahoo.com>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Youth Services position at Austin Public Library
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:42:39 CDT

Austin (TX) Public Library has an opening for a youth
services librarian in our Wired for Youth program.  Go
to
http://malford.ci.austin.tx.us/cityjobs/jobs_detail.cfm?Requisition_ID=5457
for a complete job description and application forms.

The Wired for Youth Centers were created through a
grant from the Michael and Susan Dell Foundation.  As
part of the grant agreement, the City of Austin staffs
and runs the centers (positions are NOT grant-funded,
they are regular city positions).  Information on the
Wired for Youth Centers is available at
http://wiredforyouth.com/

Salaries begin at $15.91 an hour but actual salary up
from that is based on previous experience.  Shift pay
is added for evening and weekend hours worked. 


=====
Jeanette Larson
Youth Services Manager
Austin Public Library
P.O. Box 2287
Austin, TX 78768-2287
512-499-7405
larsonlibrary@yahoo.com

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From: "ysstaff" <ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks to everyone!
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Thanks to the pile of replies I received in lieu of my Little House on the =
Prairie stumper.  The man that was in asking about the book is thrilled!  =
He wanted to give it to his wife as a birthday gift.  Thanks to everyone =
that helped!

Alison

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Youth Services
L.E. Phillips Memorial Public Library
Eau Claire, WI 54701
(715)839-5007 - voice
(715)833-5310 - fax

www.eauclaire.lib.wi.us
ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us
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