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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 478
PUBYAC Digest 478
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) LA TIMES: "..one reason librarians have fallen on difficult
times.."
by Library Lovers <LibraryLovers@calibraries.org>
2) RE: Readalouds/ Oral Interp.
by Tina Hager <Tina.Hager@cityofcarrollton.com>
3) Re: Teacher's Collections -- What Should We Do?
by hopefulfarm@toolkitmail.com
4) RE: Coloring Book
by "Janice Dukes" <jpdukes@peachtree-city.org>
5) Re: Teacher's Collections -- What Should We Do?
by "Jeanne Achenbach" <jachenba@ahml.lib.il.us>
6) Dia de los ninos
by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
7) Brown Bear question
by "Shalar Brown" <SHBROWN@iowa-city.lib.ia.us>
8) Help! color book needed ASAP!
by Andrea Terry <cavgrads97@yahoo.com>
9) Fairy Tales
by "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
10) [Fwd: Scooters]
by "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
11) Re:animals in the library
by Mary Witten Frasier <mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us>
12) Re: Scooters
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
13) Picture It! Publishing software
by Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>
14) Re: bibliotherapy (coping)recommendations needed
by Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
15) Coloring Books -- Thanks
by "Suzanne Robinson" <srobinso@mail.state.tn.us>
16) Re: storytelling at ALA
by Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
17) re: Eensy, weensy or Itsy, bitsy
by Susan Dailey <obldailey@onlyinternet.net>
18) Re: Scooters
by "MBRodgers" <brodgers@sgrl.org>
19) RE: Looking For Dracula (song)
by Tammy Williams <twilliams@nwrl.org>
20) Thanks for Monster Book help and another request
by Jennifer Parker <jmpwel@yahoo.com>
21) Stumper - WWII spies/Audubon prints
by "Catherine Morgan" <CMorgan@ci.glendale.az.us>
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From: Library Lovers <LibraryLovers@calibraries.org>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: LA TIMES: "..one reason librarians have fallen on difficult
times.."
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Posted by Stephanie Stokes, LMPR
http://www.latimes.com/news/comment/20010611/t000048609.html
Copyright =A9 2001 Los Angeles Times=20
"Some Overdue Attention" Monday, June 11, 2001
In the Middle Ages, way back in the 1950s and 1960s, the phrase "Check
that
out" had nothing to do with scanning the physique of a member of the
opposite sex, as amazing as this may seem. It described what you did with a
library book at the front counter with a woman who seemed to know
everything, or at least where everything known could be found.=20
They were amazing creatures, these librarians, always around, always
knowledgeable, always suggesting books you'd like. They remembered names,
yours or a long-dead author's. They played the card catalogue like concert
harpists. Yes, librarians expressed concern over loud talking, which
apparently was bad for books. But these women were quietly wise, like
professional aunts or teachers without the chalky fingers. And librarians
were paid like teachers--not much.=20
Which is one reason librarians have fallen on difficult times, with demand
far exceeding supply and the ranks of those retiring, or about to,
exceeding incoming rookies. It's worst for the nation's 120,000-plus public
libraries, which must compete as public service callings against the
brighter allure and higher pay of World Wide Web design companies. The
67-branch Los Angeles system confronts high staff attrition, a stubborn 17%
vacancy rate and one-third of its librarians nearing retirement.=20
As American Library Assn. members gather in San Francisco this week for
their summer conference, a serious librarian shortage has developed,
nationally as well as in Los Angeles. Recruiters will swarm the meeting.=20
Recently First Lady Laura Bush, herself a former librarian who founded a
book festival as a fund-raiser for Texas librarians, helped launch a new
recruiting campaign to make libraries hipper places to work. A new website
(http://www.atyourlibrary.org )
opens June 14. Last winter, District of
Columbia libraries had only 260 applicants for 813 openings. New ALA
President John Berry sees many possible recruiting steps, including
community college programs, task forces on salaries and diversity and an
October White House Book Fair with Mrs. Bush. It's essential we address
this gap in a profession that has been a major facilitator of individual
knowledge-gathering.=20
Many adults still recall wise librarians from their youth. Mrs. Benson
excited visiting classes about something called the Dewey Decimal System by
calling it a secret code for unlocking mysteries. There was Mrs. Kandiko,
who introduced Kit Carson and Jim Bridger to juvenile minds yet to realize
the wild American frontier resided right there on her shelves. They knew
their customers' tastes and needs. Once, lending phonograph records was
innovative. Today's libraries, of course, have many male librarians and are
high-tech--videos, CDs and the wonders and dangers of the World Wide Web.
For generations American libraries have been self-contained, building-sized
search engines. Without skilled professionals, the grand democratic
potential of such storehouses of knowledge will go sadly under-utilized
just as knowledge explodes exponentially. The new library campaign is
encouraging. A concerted effort by schools, guidance counselors,
governments and libraries is--like the borrowed library books of some
youngsters and adults--long overdue.=20
* * *
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From: Tina Hager <Tina.Hager@cityofcarrollton.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: Readalouds/ Oral Interp.
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I usually tell a story with my back to the audience while one of the teens
stands facing the audience and acts out the story without talking.
This
seems to work rather well.
I also tell a folktale the traditional way and then I read a fractured
version of the story.
Afterwards, I choose the amount of kids needed to act out the story and give
them 5 minutes to come up with their own version. This can be very
funny
and the kids enjoy the outcome. If there is time, I do a craft that
pertains to the story we are doing.
Tina Hager
Youth Services Librarian
Carrollton Public Library
(972)466-3365
-----Original Message-----
From: helen broady [mailto:hbroady@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:19 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Readalouds/ Oral Interp.
Does anyone out there have ideas about doing "read-alouds" or
"oral interpretation" or any other verbal sharing of stories,
poems,
etc. with young adults - especially for the summer reading program?
Thanks
helen broady" <hbroady@hotmail.com>
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From: hopefulfarm@toolkitmail.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Teacher's Collections -- What Should We Do?
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:18:12 CDT
> From: "Jeanne Achenbach" <jachenba@ahml.lib.il.us>
> (excerpt):
>
> "Mr. Casey,
> All of your ideas sound great, but let's not lose sight of the bottom
> line. We are still here to serve all of our patrons, no matter who they
> are. I am having a really hard time seeing teachers as
adversaries.
> We are all in this together. ......"
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr. Casey, As a LIS graduate student, I have been reading this list
with
great interest in the relationship between public libraries and school
libraries. It seems your problem is not with media specialists but with
classroom teachers. Where on earth do classroom teachers make $71,000 a year
and what do they have to put with to earn that? I was a high school English
teacher for 25 years before I decided to change to library science. I just
barely make $48,000 a year. But, the conditions I work under are super.
Still,
I don't see teacher salaries here causing problems in the public domain. The
public librarians in my town "politic" to get funds and have
"Friends of the
Library" to help raise funds. I don't believe they see the classroom
teacher
as
an enemy. As far as teachers demanding special privileges, I agree with you.
They can expect that privilege in the school system but not in the public
libraries. As many of the others have spoken on this list, I believe the
children come first. Let's do what is best for them since they grow up to be
your patrons and taxpayers. Couldn't resist replying to you. Debbie in
Hartsville, SC (poor old South Carolina)
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Janice Dukes" <jpdukes@peachtree-city.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Coloring Book
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You can order those from the following website.
http://www.positivepromotions.com/cgi-bin/pospro_fe/Product/single.html?prod
ucttypeintid=60404&marketintid=272
Janice Dukes
Youth Services Librarian
Peachtree City Library
Peachtree City, GA 30269
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org
[mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Suzanne Robinson
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:48 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Coloring Book
I am trying to find a source for a library coloring book that turned up in
the children's section.
It is called "Let's Visit the Library" written by Sharon Weiker
Abalos. On
the first page it states that it is copyrighted by The Positive Line #79930.
It is green with a picture of a librarian and 3 children standing in a
library. There is a seal in the corner of the picture that says
"Books are
Friends for Life".
Does anyone recognize this?
Suzanne Robinson
Dickson County Public Library
305 E. Hunt Street
Dickson, TN 37055
Fax 615-446-9130
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From: "Jeanne Achenbach" <jachenba@ahml.lib.il.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Teacher's Collections -- What Should We Do?
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Dear Jim,
Wow, we really are on opposite sides of the fence on this one. I have
to =
confess that I spent 11 years in a classroom, so I probably am a bit more =
sympathetic to the role that teachers play in this whole matter than you =
are. However, I still maintain that it is our job as librarians to
serve =
all of our patrons, and the bottom line is that teachers are patrons, too. =
There is just no way to get around that fact. Yes, I have dealt with =
teachers who think that the phrase "because I am a teacher" will
get them =
whatever they want. And yes, sometimes it is necessary to just smile,
=
acknowledge their position and then be firm and stick to the rules.
These =
are the times when it is so important to have a written, working agreement =
with the schools you serve, such as the one we do. Then it is very easy to =
point out that there are rules that have been agreed upon and that I =
intend to follow those rules.=20
At my library, we do not charge overdue fines on materials that are =
checked out to schools. (We issue a card to each school we serve and
as =
Elementary School Services Specialist, I am the one who is in control of =
those cards.) That does not mean that we don't make our schools and
the =
teachers therein accountable for lost or damaged materials. I inform =
school librarians regularly throughout the school year of overdue =
materials and at the end of the school year, all accounts are settled.
=
(We will not resume service to any school in the fall until their account =
has been cleared.)
As for salaries, that is a whole other can of worms which I won't open at =
this time. Suffice it to say that I think teachers earn every cent
they =
make, and as for library personnel, let's just say that our salaries have =
lots of room for improvement. =20
I still maintain that we are in this for one reason, and that is to give =
the very best service we can, to every one of our patrons. So, let's
ease =
up a little on the "enlightened self-interest" and spend a bit
more time =
looking for ways to better serve our patrons. =20
Jeanne Achenbach-- Definitely MY own views.
R. Jeanne Achenbach
Elementary School Services Specialist
Arlington Heights Memorial Library
500 North Dunton=20
Arlington Heights, IL 60004
phone 847-506-2631 fax 847-506-2655
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From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Dia de los ninos
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Hi! We are trying to plan way ahead for this on a city committee I am
on.
If you did a Dia de los ninos in the last few years, could you e-mail me
directly what you did and how it went? We figure we would be crazy for
trying to reinvent this wheel. Thanks so much!
Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals, Audiovisual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
PHONE: 630-264-4100
FAX: 630-896-3209
www.aurora.lib.il.us
E-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
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From: "Shalar Brown" <SHBROWN@iowa-city.lib.ia.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Brown Bear question
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Hello! I was reading Bill Martin, Jr's "Brown Bear, Brown bear, what do
=
you see? this morning at a program for infants and parents from the =
hardover edition. Many of them commented that they had read the board book =
edition and that in that version instead of "Mother, Mother, what do
you =
see?" it says, "Teacher, teacher..." I hadn't paid that much
attention to =
the board book when I'd seen it and we don't have it at our library so I =
can't confirm, but I wondered if anyone out there knows WHY it was changed =
to "teacher" from "mother." The group was just curious.
Thanks!
Shalar Brown
Iowa City Public Library
Iowa City, IA
shbrown@iowa-city.lib.ia.us
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From: Andrea Terry <cavgrads97@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Help! color book needed ASAP!
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:20:35 CDT
Help Help Help!!
My summer reading program theme is "Color my world
with books." The introductory meeting is Monday at
7PM, and the book I had chosen to read has disappeared
(grown legs?)!!!!! Help! Does anyone have a
replacement that is fun to read, easy to learn, and
has to do with the theme of color???!!!???
Thanks in advance!! What would I do if I didn't have
all of you?
=====
Andrea Terry
Libby Memorial Library
Old Orchard Beach, Maine
cavgrads97@yahoo.com
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From: "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
To: <tagad-l@topica.com>,
"PUBYAC\\: PUBlic librarians servi"
Subject: Fairy Tales
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:20:54 CDT
Dear Wonderful People -
I am despairing! Our folk tale and fairy tale collection does not =
circulate as I think it should. since we are rearranging the entire =
library anyway this summer, I am thinking that changing the location of =
the fairy tales and folk tales might give them a boost. My question to
=
the collective mind is: Where are the folk and fairy tales in your =
collection? Are they in the nonfiction, where they are supposed to be
=
or have you come up with a more creative way to display them without =
making your staff crazy. Please advise. Respond off list and
I'll =
compile.
Peace and blessings,
Cathy Norman
Youth Services Librarian
Fairport Harbor Public Library
335 Vine St. Fairport Harbor, OH 44077
csn71650@hotmail.com
440-354-8191
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From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: [Fwd: Scooters]
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:21:18 CDT
We just insist that the scooters are folded up while they are in the
library.
It is unrealistic to expect kids to lock them up outside. If the
scooters
are
then placed on the floor near or under a table, they are not a problem.
lcole wrote:
> I'd like to find out if anyone has a policy concerning scooters in the
> library.
> We have had quite a few middle school patrons bringing their scooters
into
> the
> library and we are looking for a way to effectively handle them.
> Do you have a policy against them? Signs? Lockers?
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lisa Cole
> Arapahoe Library District
> lcole@ald.lib.co.us
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From: Mary Witten Frasier <mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us>
To: Gretchen Pruett <gretchenp@round-rock.tx.us>
Subject: Re:animals in the library
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:21:48 CDT
If anyone within an hour's drive of Bloomington, In wants a lovely ball
python, just let me know and I will donate my snake and her gear to your
library. She is virtually maintainence free, but we need the space her
aquarium occupies for other things and we just haven't gotten all that
emotionally attached to her.
Mary Frasier
mfrasier@monroe.lib.in.us
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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Scooters
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:22:19 CDT
I would think that scooters would come under the same category as
skateboards, roller blades, and bicyles--not in the building please!
(Wait until we start seeing the item I saw on TV last night. It is
sneakers with a single roller skate wheel built into the heel. You can
walk normally in them or rock back on your heels and skate.)
Lisa Smith
lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From: Laura Gruninger <lgruning@mcl.org>
To: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
Subject: Picture It! Publishing software
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:22:52 CDT
I was intrigued by the article on this new 7 disc CD set profiled on page
24 of the May 2001 issue of SLJ.
Has anyone bought and successfully used this new product?
It says it takes at least 90 minutes to load but contains 13,500 project
templates, 200,000 pieces of photo art, 20,000 mats or frames, 150
illusions, and Microsoft's largest array of photo editing tools.
I'll summarize results.
Laura Gruninger, Young Adult Librarian
Mercer County Library System, Lawrence HQ
2751 Brunswick Pike, Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
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From: Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: bibliotherapy (coping)recommendations needed
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:23:26 CDT
Our Library System has a great resource. Here is the address:
www.noblenet.org/booklists/biblio.htm
Hopefully, this will be helpful to you.
At 09:39 AM 6/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I am a library studies student developing a bibliography of children's
>picture books concerning bibliotherapy and how kids cope with first time
>issues. I would like suggestions for good, quality books that have
been
>published within the past 3 years. The topics I would like input
on are
>death (of relatives and pets), divorce, medical (doctor, dentist,
>hospitals), first day of school, new baby and adoption, and toilet
training.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>_________________________________________________________________
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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From: "Suzanne Robinson" <srobinso@mail.state.tn.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Coloring Books -- Thanks
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:23:58 CDT
Thanks to all who responded with the coloring book information.
In case anyone else is looking, they came from Positive Promotions, 40-01
168th St., Flushing, NY 11358
Phone: 800-635-2666 Fax
800-635-2329
Here's the link: http://www.positivepromotions.com/cgi-bin/pospro_fe/Produ=
ct/single.html?producttypeintid=3D60404&marketintid=3D272
Suzanne Robinson
Dickson TN=20
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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: storytelling at ALA
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Argh! I have just been notified long distance by my trooper of a co-chair
that our preconference information was incorrect. The program will be at the
San Francisco Marriott, which also has a Golden Gate Room.
I know this is an issue for people supporting the labor boycott. Do what
your conscience demands. I know Coretta Scott King asked that the Coretta
Scott King breakfast be cancelled because she supports labor.
I have a major event scheduled there on Sunday which I will attend, because
I'm standing on my head to go at all.
Go, and enjoy, It would be a shame to deny these fine storytellers an
audience, but if you are pro-labor, show your support somehow.
Mary Ann
Mary Ann Gilpatrick wrote:
> If you are coming to the annual conference in San Francisco this
> weekend, don't miss the *Stories for a Saturday Evening* concert, which
> will be:
>
> Saturday
> 8:00 - 10:00 pm
> Mark Hopkins Golden Gate Room
>
> This will be a wonderful evening. Tellers are:
>
> Diane Ferlatte
> Hugh Lupton
> Margaret Read MacDonald
>
> Diane is a nationally-known teller who lives in the Bay area and has
> graciously agreed to perform. Her newest CD jsut won a parent's choice
> award.
>
> Hugh Lupton is an English storyteller who comes well-recommended as one
> of the best, if not the best, teller in England. He appears courtesy of
> Barefoot Books.
>
> Margaret Read MacDonald is no stranger to any librarian storyteller.
Her
> newest book is available from August House, whom we have to thank for
> Margie's appearance.
>
> email me back at magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us
if you need more
> information.
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From: Susan Dailey <obldailey@onlyinternet.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: re: Eensy, weensy or Itsy, bitsy
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:24:54 CDT
I hesitate to post this question because it doesn't begin to compare to
whether we should loan teacher collections or have animals in the library.
However, I'm curious whether people on the listserv use a fingerplay about
an "Eensy, Weensy Spider" or one about an "Itsy, Bitsy
Spider." If you
respond, please do so directly to me. Also let me know where you were
raised. (I don't really think that has much to do with it though since
my
adult daughter sings about an "Itsy Bitsy Spider" while I have an
"Eensy,
Weensy" one.)
Thanks in advance for satisfying my curiosity,
Susan Dailey
librarian and author of A Storytime Year
Ossian Branch Library
207 N. Jefferson St. Ossian, IN 46777
obldailey@wellscolibrary.org
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From: "MBRodgers" <brodgers@sgrl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Scooters
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:25:18 CDT
We currently just ask them to stick them out of the way. The new folding
ones are so small, we feel like they'd get stolen outside. As long as they
don't ride them inside, it's fine. So far.
Britt Rodgers
South Georgia Regional Library
brodgers@sgrl.org
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From: Tammy Williams <twilliams@nwrl.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Looking For Dracula (song)
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Thanks to everyone who sent a response - my librarian is very
happy!
Tammy
Tammy Williams
twilliams@nwrl.org
Northwestern Regional Library
Opinions expressed in this message may
not represent the policy of my library.
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From: Jennifer Parker <jmpwel@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks for Monster Book help and another request
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:26:29 CDT
Hello again,
I would like to say thank you to everyone who
reccomended monster books. I got a great response
just as I knew I would. I found some of the
reccomended books and will bring them home to for my
daughter. I appreciate your help.
I have another question, my husband (30 years old)
vividly remembers a book from his childhood I believe
it was a picyure book. He says the name of it was
"The Boy Who Loved Dirt So Much He Almost Became A
Super Slob." He said that he loved it as a child and
would like to see it again. I can not find it any
where, has anyone else ever heard of this book?
TIA
Jennifer Parker
jparker@ocln
or
jmpwel@yahoo.com
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From: "Catherine Morgan" <CMorgan@ci.glendale.az.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper - WWII spies/Audubon prints
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Patron is seeking a chapter book written between 1945-1955 about a young =
boy in New Jersey during WWII who is involved with spies and finds some =
original Audubon prints. We have checked Amazon and alibris. Any
clues =
would be appreciated. Please respond to cmorgan@ci.glendale.az.us
Catherine Morgan
cmorgan@ci.glendale.az.us
Glendale Public Library
5959 W Brown
Glendale, AZ 85302
Phone: 623.930.3544
Fax: 623.842.4209
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