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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:17 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 536


    PUBYAC Digest 536

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: Easy Readers defined
by Sue Ridnour <SRidnour@flower-mound.com>
  2) Professional Employment Opportunities in Las Vegas Nevada
by "Lewis Taylor" <lewt@lvccld.lib.nv.us>
  3) Re: Accelerated Reader
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
  4) Re: Accelerated Reader
by Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
  5) Re: Accelerated Reader
by Pamela Stack <pstack@vlc.lib.mi.us>
  6) Re: Accelerated Reader
by "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
  7) History Wall
by "Jason, Andrea" <ajason@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
  8) RE: Booktalks
by Tina Hager <Tina.Hager@cityofcarrollton.com>
  9) Fw: PUBYAC: Moderated Message
by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
 10) Re: Accelerated Reader
by Sushila Mertens <kidlit_2000@yahoo.com>
 11) wall
by EWillRead@aol.com
 12) flannel board ideas
by Steven LAMONEA <lamonea@scils.rutgers.edu>
 13) Re: Booktalks
by "Marge Tassione" <tassione@sls.lib.il.us>
 14) Re: Accelerated Reader
by "Shanla Brookshire" <shanlab@hotmail.com>
 15) Re: Accelerated Reader
by "Marge Tassione" <tassione@sls.lib.il.us>
 16) circulating puppets
by MEUCHEL Aimee D <Aimee.D.Meuchel@ci.eugene.or.us>
 17) Re: Booktalks
by karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
 18) Re: Looking for Kid-friendly Free E-mail accounts
by Connie Ward <mariewardd@yahoo.com>
 19) Re: computer speakers
by Connie Ward <mariewardd@yahoo.com>
 20) Re: reply to program age limits
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
 21) Re: children's catalog
by Connie Ward <mariewardd@yahoo.com>
 22) Pooh Celebrations
by Michelle Splitter <splitter@jmc.panet.pa.sk.ca>
 23) Re: Addressing Children
by Lisa Hughes <lhughes@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
 24) reading levels
by "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
 25) Re: Accelerated Reader
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 26) RE: Looking for Kid-friendly Free E-mail accounts
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
 27) RE: reply to program age limits
by HFL_LISA@stls.org

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From: Sue Ridnour <SRidnour@flower-mound.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Easy Readers defined
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:03:04 CDT

Well, boy do I feel like a professional incompetent now!  We recently
seperated our "readers" from the picture book collection, and we called the
new collection "Beginning Readers" but the main reason for doing it was to
make it easier for the staff to keep the the collections straight -- "E" and
"ER" on the spine labels is just too much alike.  It never even occured to
me that there might be a good customer-based reason for doing it, too.
Thanks for the wake-up call, Ian!

Sue Ridnour
Children's Services Manager
Flower Mound (TX) Public Library
972.874.6153


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian McKinney [mailto:ianmck@tcpl.lib.in.us]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:30 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Easy Readers defined


Catherine Mau wrote (in Christine Tyner's compilation on defining "easy
readers"):
>This next part is just to amuse you, not to make a statement or
>anything.  We changed the name of our collection to "Beginning Readers"
>from "Easy Readers"

That IS amusing, but I will go one step further and MAKE A STATEMENT:

Consider the reading ability of the kids your collection targets.  They are
generally just beginning to learn to read.  Do you want them to have a
successful experience, free from bias and doubt about their ability?  Then
don't call them Easy Readers.

If you are marketing your collection to adults who read well, then that's
what they are: Easy Readers.  They are also pretty boring to that audience,
which means, I suspect, that you aren't marketing to them.  If you are
marketing them to kids in grades K-3 who vary widely in their reading
levels, you need to recognize that these kids are not completely dense:
they know what "easy" means.  If you call them Easy Readers, you are
telling them:

1. You should be able to read THIS--it's EASY.
2. If you can't read this, you can't do something that's easy.
3. If it's supposed to be easy and you can't do it, maybe you better just
stop trying, huh?

Obviously, the above is sort of a worst-case scenario.  But if it's
possible that you are contributing negatively to the self-worth of a child
because of how you label your books, shouldn't you take another look?

Beginning Readers is a fine choice.  So is Early Readers.  I'm sure there
are other good choices.  My opinion--one that my library probably agrees
with, though it may not agree with everything here--is that "Easy Readers"
is a bad name for an important collection.

--Ian


Ian McKinney                        Tippecanoe County Public Library
Young Adult Librarian               627 South Street
(765) 429-0121                      Lafayette, Indiana 47901-1470
ianmck@tcpl.lib.in.us               fax: (765) 429-0150
http://www.tcpl.lib.in.us/ya/

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From: "Lewis Taylor" <lewt@lvccld.lib.nv.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Professional Employment Opportunities in Las Vegas Nevada
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:03:40 CDT

The Las Vegas-Clark County Library District is recruiting for:

YPL/CHILDREN'S SERVICES LIBRARIAN

Salary Range is $35,734 to $48,880 annually with a very attractive benefits
package.

Minimum Qualifications are a Master's in Library Science (ALA accredited)
and coursework in children's literature.

For complete information on this announcement, and other employment
opportunity view our web page at http://www.lvccld.org or contact the Human
Resources Department, 833 Las Vegas Boulevard North, Las Vegas, Nevada
89101,  (702) 382-3493 ext. 280 between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. PDT.  The
Las Vegas-Clark County Library District is an Equal Opportunity Employer,
and proudly promotes diversity in employment.  Applications will be accepted
until September 21, 2001.

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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:03:58 CDT

If the school is using the Accelerated Reader Program, isn't it their
responsibility to provide lists, point-designations, etc?

If the program were being used in my district (thankfully it is not)I
would want to provide as many of the books as I could in my collection.
However, I would expect the parents and children to find them using the
on-line catalog and I would expect the materials provided by the school to
tell the parents how many points a book was worth.

Lisa Smith
lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us

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From: Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:04:24 CDT

Grace -

I get lists in author order and reading level order from each of the Media
Specialists in our 5 elementary schools.  That seems to be plenty for the
kids
looking for AR books here.  Three of the five schools also have their AR
lists
online, so I have links to the school's AR pages on our Library's children's
page. If kids from these schools do want different lists, they can access
them
on the internet.

I don't mark the books in any way, other than our usual library markings.
WE
are not endorsing AR, the schools are.  We simply have the lists for our
patrons' convenience.

--
Becky Ann Smith, Children's Librarian
Logan Library, Logan, UT
bsmith@loganutah.org
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us

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From: Pamela Stack <pstack@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:04:50 CDT

Hi Grace,

Our system has been to purchase folders and do 2 lists for each school,
one by title and one by reading level.  We no longer mark our books as we
have three schools in our district and each one has different points or
reading levels!!  This has worked out fine for us.  Hope this helps.

Pamela C. Stack
pstack@vlc.lib.mi.us
Children's Librarian
St. Charles District Library
St. Charles, Michigan

On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Grace Slaughter wrote:

> O Wise Ones...This is a topic for general discussion...
>
> Is there any special techniques that any of ya'll have for coping with
> Accelerated Reader lists? We could go on and on about the negatives of
> the program.  What I am needing (for a meeting later in the year) are
> ideas and suggestions about dealing with the reality and restrictions of
> the lists.
>
> For instance, I ask the media specialist for multiple lists: Author
> order, Title order, Reading Level order, and Point Value order. I
> highlight the lists that I receive to show titles that my library owns,
> note the ones that have audio tapes available here, keep multiple copies
> of the author list for class visits, highlight/note a copy for the
> school librarian.
>
> On the other hand, my children's librarian counterpart has a elementary
> media specialists who sends her copy of the AR list in Test Number
> order! "Test Number" happens to be the default setting on her AR
> program, and she does not know how to change the setting (and does not
> care to learn how!).
>
> In the past we had an AR sticker for the book and noted the reading
> level and points inside the back cover. One of the problems with that is
> the fact that AR revamped the tests last year and changed some of the
> levels and points. The schools that have PCs have the new levels and
> points. The ones that have MACs did not change. At least that's how I
> understand it.
>
> Anyway, what works for you?
>
> I will appreciate all of your input!
>
> g
>
>

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From: "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:05:16 CDT

We get the lists from the two schools who use AR - in author, title, and
grade level orders.  We have our library pages go through and mark the books
we own, and we try to note genres as well (for mystery/whatever book reports
that must be from the list).  We never mark the actual books, tho' many
parents have asked - mostly because the two schools have different lists,
and because things change fairly often.  Nancy Pirodsky, Garden City (NY) PL

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From: "Jason, Andrea" <ajason@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
To: "'yalsa-bk@ala.org'" <yalsa-bk@ala.org>
Subject: History Wall
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:05:42 CDT

Our library board is planning to establish a "History Wall" with historic
photographs and framed memorabilia in a public area of our library.  We
would greatly appreciate information, comments and photos from libraries
which have done something similar.  Please send this information directly to
my email and, in advance,  thank you so much.

Andrea Jason
Reference and Young Adult Librarian
Newport Beach Public Library
1000 Avocado Avenue
Newport Beach, CA 92660

ajason@city.newport-beach.ca.us

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From: Tina Hager <Tina.Hager@cityofcarrollton.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Booktalks
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:06:03 CDT

Here are a few ideas...
http://nancykeane.com/booktalks/

http://kidsreads.com/index.asp

And for humorous quickie booktalks
http://rinkworks.com/bookaminute/

Tina Hager
Youth Services Librarian
Carrollton Public Library at Hebron and Josey

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Peterson [mailto:lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:22 AM
To: PUBYAC
Subject: Booktalks


A 5th grade teacher would like for us to do some book talks for her classes.
In the past most of my work has been with younger grades. Does anyone have
any suggestions of books, websites, etc. for tips on book talks and examples
would be great also. Thanks for any help.

Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Sushila Mertens <kidlit_2000@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:06:55 CDT

I support you to keep nagging your daughter's
librarian for a leveled list. If she won't learn how
to do it, I would go to the principal and explain you
would be happy to teach her how.
Sushila Mertens
=====
Sushila Mertens kidlit_2000@yahoo.com

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From: EWillRead@aol.com
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Subject: wall
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:08:51 CDT

We had a great display at our school ... the art teacher took pictures from
past yearbooks "blew them up" on good copying machine.  They were then
mounted on foam board and arranged in varying depths (3 D) in sequential
decades along the hall walls. The students and parents really loved seeing
"we -- people from the past" ...

good luck.
Emma Williams

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From: Steven LAMONEA <lamonea@scils.rutgers.edu>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: flannel board ideas
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:09:26 CDT

Dear colleagues,

Does anyone have ideas for flannel board stories for preschoolers on the
topics of Community Helpers, Safety, Fire Prevention or Opposites?  I am
having a hard time coming up with anything for these subjects and know how
helpful this list can be.  I look forward to hearing your ideas.

Steven Lamonea
Children's Librarian
Bridgewater Library
Bridgewater, NJ

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From: "Marge Tassione" <tassione@sls.lib.il.us>
To: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>,
   "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Booktalks
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:11 AM
Subject: Booktalks


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> A 5th grade teacher would like for us to do some book talks for her
classes.
> In the past most of my work has been with younger grades. Does anyone have
> any suggestions of books, websites, etc. for tips on book talks and
examples
> would be great also. Thanks for any help.
>
> Linda Peterson
> Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
> 125 South Franklin
> Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
> Phone: (812)384-4125
> Fax: (812)384-0820
> email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us
> Linda,
If you read extensively, go with what you know.  Kids will know immediately
if you have read the book or not!  The Newbery Winners are a sure shot.  I
use Zindel (Raptor, Reef of Death, and Loch are especially popular with the
boys), Spinelli, Bauer, DiCamillo, and lots of others.  I keep a journal so
that if a school calls I have a ready reference I can use to pull titles.
When we did school visits prior to SR I took the journal along with me and
let the kids look through it if they wanted to and let them know all the
titles were available at the library.  If you're excited about the book they
will definitely pick up on it.  Good luck.
Margaret Tassione
tassione@sls.lib.il.us

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From: "Shanla Brookshire" <shanlab@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:10:38 CDT

Grace,
   I just do what you do:  I highlight what we have and write where to find
it in our collection.  That's it.....nothing else!  I receive one list from
each of five schools in this area.  Each school's list is a little different
from the others.  (Drives me crazy sometimes!)  I just take whatever type of
list they give me.  One school gives me an author list, title list, and
point level list.  Most of my patrons prefer the point level list, that way
they only have to look through one section of the book for their children's
reading level.  Unfortunately, I never deal with the same person in each
school from year to year, so I have a hard time getting a point level list
from each school.  I just take what I'm given.  At this time, I do not want
to put an AR sticker on any of my books.  I just put holiday stickers on my
books and leave the AR stuff to the school libraries.  I have this recurring
nightmare of putting those stickers on my books and then having the schools'
stop the AR program.
   I hope this helps.


Shanla Brookshire
Children's Librarian
Lovett Memorial Library
Pampa, TX  79065
shanlab@hotmail.com

"The test of a man's mettle is in the small things, not in
the great; what he does about returning a library book, not
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From: "Marge Tassione" <tassione@sls.lib.il.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:11:11 CDT

Grace,
This is only my opinion and for whatever it's worth here goes:  There are so
many reasons I dislike the AR program that too much space would be taken up
if I attempted to list them all--I come up with new ones almost daily.  We
get lists from the schools--which are not the same for the districts we
serve--so we keep separate notebooks.  We do not mark our collection in any
way.  We ask the children to find books they think they might enjoy and then
see if we have them in our collection.  We used to annotate the lists, but
that is too time consuming and we don't have the staff available to do it.
We know lots of the kids, their reading levels, and our collection very
well--which helps.  Some of the parents dislike AR and some love
it--different strokes, and all that.  If AR gets kids reading some think
that's enough.  I think AR is too limiting.  Children read for enjoyment
same as adults and usually learn something from what is read.  There is
nothing more disheartening to hear a child say there is nothing on their
level that they want to read--if they find nothing of interest, they go for
the easiest points.  They reason that if they read books at the lower end of
their level they get more points.  In all fairness to AR we do have a FEW
kids who will challenge themselves.(I recently volunteered to help at the
school where I used to be employed.  The principal asked me to help set up
the AR program!)  It is very disheartening for me when a child passes up a
great book because it's not on the list.  If I know the book and talk it up
the child may show some willingness to take it only to have the parent
remind them it's not on the list or that is is above their "level".  It is
very hard for me to smile my way through AR and I try like heck to get them
to go the highest possible level on their lists. One list contains the first
Harry Potter book.  Most of the kids have read more than one Potter book.  A
child told me last year that he just couldn't pass the AR on Sorcerer's
Stone because all the books ran together in his mind--I'd have the exact
same problem.  So, as people who promote reading, challenge and enjoyment I
guess we just grin and bear it.  The opinions expressed are solely my own.

Margaret Tassione
tassione@sls.lib.il.us

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From: MEUCHEL Aimee D <Aimee.D.Meuchel@ci.eugene.or.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: circulating puppets
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:11:41 CDT

At Eugene Public Library, we have a collection of puppets that families can
check-out.  There is a high replacement rate on these puppets, because they
are well-loved.  As they are intensely used, we do wash them on a regular
basis, thus making wear and tear an even larger issue.  We currently
purchase mostly Folkmanis puppets.  I'm wondering if other libraries also
circulate puppets, and if so, what company do you purchase them from?

Please reply to me off list.

Thank you,
Aimee Meuchel
Youth Services Librarian
Eugene Public Library

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From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Booktalks
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:12:12 CDT

I've done successful booktalks for this age group on
Holes by Sachar, Konighsburg's From the Mixed-up Files
of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, Number the Stars by Lois
Lowry & Maniac Magee by Spinelli. Hope this helps.
--- Linda Peterson <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
wrote:
> A 5th grade teacher would like for us to do some
> book talks for her classes.
> In the past most of my work has been with younger
> grades. Does anyone have
> any suggestions of books, websites, etc. for tips on
> book talks and examples
> would be great also. Thanks for any help.
>
> Linda Peterson
> Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
> 125 South Franklin
> Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
> Phone: (812)384-4125
> Fax: (812)384-0820
> email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us
>


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From: Connie Ward <mariewardd@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Looking for Kid-friendly Free E-mail accounts
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:12:39 CDT

www.dogmail.com has no objectional advertising.  still
no junk mail after 2 years of my niece using it.  must
be at least 14 or 15yo to use it. 

whenever kids (any age) want an email account, i set
them up with dogmail because i know it is safe from
porn junk mail. 

--Connie Ward
Syracuse Public Library

--- Ginnie Hoover <ginnie@lfpl.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone! Are any of you aware of a free
> kid-friendly e-mail account,
> similar to Hotmail or Yahoo mail?  We teach a Girl
> Scout computer class here
> at LFPL, and one of the components is showing the
> girls how e-mail works.
> We do NOT want to have them sign up for their own
> e-mail account, but our
> plan is to set up a generic account that they can
> all log into during the
> program and send a message from just to see how it
> works (we would change
> the password after each program).  However, I am not
> comfortable with the
> Yahoo or Hotmail accounts because of all the
> junkmail that they have, and
> links from the account to things we would rather not
> expose these girls to
> during the program.  Any suggestions?
>
> Ginnie Hoover
> Louisville Free Public Library
> Louisville, KY
>
> ginnie@lfpl.org
>


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From: Connie Ward <mariewardd@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: computer speakers
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:13:13 CDT

use the volume control on the task bar to lower the
settings and then remove it from the task bar.

turn speaker all the way up first, then use volume
control to get the highest volume that you want to
hear.

patron can find volume through 'start/find', but most
don't know that.

--Connie Ward
Syracuse Public Library

--- bkworm@mindspring.com wrote:
> Dear Collective Mind,
> I have a problem with the speakers on my children's
> game computer.  The ones
> plugged into the computer have a volume control.
> Often when I set it at an
> appropriate level, a child (or mom, unfortunately),
> just turns up the
> volume.  I don't feel that you should be able to
> hear a game all over the
> children's department (which is a small area),
> especially when some moms and
> dads are actually making an effort to read with
> their children.  Of course,
> I turn the volume down, but I am getting tired of
> this game.  I don't want
> to go with headphones because of germs, the
> frequency of breakage, and
> theft.  Is there such a thing as speakers with no
> easily accessible volume
> control?  Perhaps speakers with volume control in a
> locked box, or "smart"
> speakers with volume control in a password-protected
> software program?  I am
> not that old (32) but I swear children today are
> even deafer than my
> generation of boob-tubers!  Thanks for your help.
> Mary Jones
> Huntsville Public Library
> Huntsville, AL
>


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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: reply to program age limits
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:13:42 CDT

This is always a problem. One way we fight it is to have the children
pre-register for progams and we ask for the ages at time of registration. We
still have shocked parents that can't understand why the kindergarten child
can't come to the 3rd grade program. At least this way the confrontaion is
done ahead of time and not with the child standing at the door the day of
the program upset becuase he can't attend. When we have afterschool programs
for certain age levels we have found that having scavneger hunts in the
children's department for siblings that are not attending seems to help in
that everyone gets to do something.

Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Connie Ward <mariewardd@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: children's catalog
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:14:15 CDT

I keep only the latest edition and supplements.  When
a book is challenged, it doesn't help to show offended
moms reviews anyway.  They don't care what a bunch of
professionals say about a book.  They only care about
their opinion and maybe other moms'.

When someone says, 'this shouldn't be in the
children's dept', i take the book home and read it.
If it seems written for up-to-8th-grade, i keep it
here.  If not, it goes in the high school collection.

I've moved only 1 book so far.  Most challenged books
are aimed at middle school ages, so this is where they
belong. 

Moms are satisfied when i tell them that i read the
book and i would never let my son read it, but other
moms let their kids read this kind of stuff.  And then
i tell them about the boy who wanted to know why we
had Christian fiction here.  He said it should not be
here because it will brainwash kids into believing in
God.  I tell the mom that i told that boy that all
kinds of people use this library, and we cannot have
just the types of stuff that his family reads.  Mom
always agrees with me! 

It's only because a Christian book was challenged that
i am able to honestly tell moms that what *they* think
is appropriate would be in danger also if i started
taking out books that someone objects to.

Maybe you will be blessed with someone challenging the
types of books that the challengers like...But i am
always aware of the fact that the mom might be right.
Some books we have here might not belong.  How can i
know if i don't read it myself?  Wouldn't i be just as
bad as the people who come in and complain about a
video that they've never seen but have heard is bad?


Connie Ward
Syracuse Public Library


--- Belinda Sakowski <sakowski@grayson.edu> wrote:
> Hello helpful ones,
>
> My director has asked that I poll the great minds of
> pubyac.  How far back
> do you keep CHILDREN'S CATALOG?  Do you only keep
> the current
> addition?  Our problem is space.  One of our past
> directors wanted to keep
> them in case a book was challenged.  We have  the
> usual review sources(
> Hornbook, the Bulletin etc) that we can use for this
> purpose.  While we are
> on the subject I would be interested in hearing what
> procedures other
> libraries follow when a book is challenged.  Do you
> find reviews on the
> books, have others read them?  Any info would be
> greatly
> appreciated.  Responses can be sent to
> sakowski@grayson.edu  TIA Belinda
>
> Belinda Sakowski            E-Mail:
> sakowski@grayson.edu
> Sherman Public Library      Phone: (903)892-7240
> 421 N. Travis               Fax: (903) 892-7101
> Sherman, Texas 75090
>


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From: Michelle Splitter <splitter@jmc.panet.pa.sk.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Pooh Celebrations
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:14:53 CDT

Sorry to repeat a question I've seen asked several times, but if anyone has
the information about Pooh's Birthday, I'd appreciate the article citation
or any information on your library's plans.

Thanks in advance,


Michelle Splitter
Assistant Director
John M. Cuelenaere Public Library
125 12th St. E.
Prince Albert, SK  S6V 1B7
(306) 763-8496 extension 32
Fax:  (306) 763-3816
splitter@jmc.panet.pa.sk.ca

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From: Lisa Hughes <lhughes@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Addressing Children
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:15:15 CDT

I don't think it's an issue of political correctness; it's a question of
respect for children.  You may not have a problem with your sons being
called sweetie, but how do they feel about it?  Personally, I don't
like being called "dearie" or "sweetie" by someone I don't know, and so I
don't do it to someone else--and it doesn't matter whether it's a 5- or
10-year-old child, or a 50-year-old adult.  This is not an absolute,
hard-and-fast rule--there are times when it seems appropriate to use
endearments--but when I'm trying to make a patron feel welcome, I'd rather
focus a heart-felt welcoming smile, really listening to the patron, and
treating questions with respect.  I have been around people who seem to
think that using endearments makes someone feel welcome, but it's so
superficial that it doesn't, and I don't want to be one of those
people.  (And I've been around other people who use the endearments
profusely because it's part of their personality, and it's fine)  No
absolutes, but it is an interesting question to think about.

Lisa Mead Hughes, Children's Services
Campbell Public Library
77 Harrison Avenue, Campbell CA 95008-1499
voice: (866-1991)   fax: (408) 866-1433
lhughes@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us
*** All standard disclaimers apply ***

On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 HFL_LISA@stls.org wrote:

> Sweetie they have all been and sweetie they will remain.  How PC can
> we get?  As a parent of a 9 and 12 year old boy I have no problem if the
> nice lady in the library, store etc. call them sweetie.  I hope when
> they are strapping lads of 25 someone is still calling them that once in
> awhile! I cannot believe a library would institute a 'policy' on how
> to properly address a child.  Children are children and we perhaps go
> to far in treating them like minature adults.
>
>


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From: "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: reading levels
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:15:35 CDT

Hi all -

Does anyone know of a website or print source (other than ESLC) that
provides READABILITY levels of books.  We're not interested in the span of
interest levels as reported on publishers' web pages, for example.
We'd like the actual readability level achieved by using th Fry graph or
other "scientific" means.

Thanks for any help available!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary D'Eliso, Children's Librarian Monroe County Public Library
mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us Bloomington, Indiana
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Accelerated Reader
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:16:10 CDT

This is what we *attempted* at my old library. It
seemed like a good idea, but turned out to be a
pointless, royal pain in the you know what.

We requested lists from all area schools. Then we
created a file in Excel with fields for title, author,
point values and reading levels, whether an item was
owned by our library (including format & call number)
and finally which school's list the item could be
found on--since, of course, they're all different!
Then we planned to sorted and printed it by school,
title, points, etc. and put it all in a gigantic
3-ring binder with dividers that kids could use
in-house.

After having several volunteers work on it for a
couple of months the schools all traded lists on us.
[Apparantly they'd decided they could get more bang
for their buck by buying half the number of lists they
really wanted, split them between schools and then
traded at the end of the semester.]

Technically we could have updated the file since most
of the titles were all the same they'd just changed
schools, but we were so fed up with the project by
then anyway we ditched it.

If you've got some good volunteers you might try
something similar. Depending on how many schools you
have in your area that use it, whether they use the
same lists or different ones or if it changes a
lot--it could work. But if I had to do it again I
think it was WAY too much work. What we ended up doing
worked just as well.

We made multiple copies of the lists from each school
(keeping a master in case they all walked).  Then we'd
velobind them in-house with the school's name on the
spine. The kids would come in and grab a list for
their school and just use it on their own. Each
kid/parent wants it done differently (some want it
sorted by reading level, others by points...) so you
can't make everybody happy. If we could get the school
librarians to send us multiple lists sorted different
ways, great! but we didn't sweat it.

While several patrons suggested it, we never
considered putting stickers on the books for several
reasons. 1)We had at least 10 schools in our area
using the program and not all of them used the same
lists. 2)It meant absolutely nothing to people who
didn't use the program. 3) It would junk up the books.
AND FINALLY 4) I refuse to let this idiotic program
dictate how I manage my library's collection.--oops,
sorry I forgot we weren't going to get into that part.

*deep cleansing breath*

Our original plan was the same as yours--to mark all
the lists to show what we owned and where to find
it...but that changed so often based on new items
coming in, items going missing or just being checked
out, etc. that it was rarely correct and the lists got
all crumpled and written on.... Plus the kids
complained about the call numbers being different from
what they were used to at school. *sigh*

So in the end we decided not putting the information
on the lists both saved us a giant headache and
provided us a great opportunity to teach kids how to
use our library and catalog. :) Once kids and parents
got used to it they were perfectly happy with the way
we did things. 

Fortunately, AR hasn't been an issue at my new library
yet. And I hope it stays that way. Have fun! ;)

Jennifer Baker
Fresno Co. Library

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Looking for Kid-friendly Free E-mail accounts
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:16:47 CDT

Actually Yahoo is the mail service that has a spam guard.  I have never
received any unwanted or junk mail through them.  ALso I do not see what you
mean by links to expose them to things...any e mail account will require
them
to sign on to the internet to get there.  Maybe that is part of the lesson
to be learned.  You should ask, half of them are probably already on line
have email and spend their time instant messaging their friends.  I have
yet to meet anyone above the age of 8 who does not have or know how to use
all of those things.

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: reply to program age limits
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:17:09 CDT

Sometimes the best way to handle things is to simply say what you want
that the program has an age limit for a reason, if you let one child in
then you have to allow others but thanks for their interest and you hope
to see them at the progrms designed for THEIR child.  Especially on things
such as the overnight.  Do not allow parents to engage you in lenghty
on going discussions, be firm but polite.  It is your right to limit
the programs to the age you find appropriate.

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