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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:00 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 581


    PUBYAC Digest 581

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) PC Plug-ins
by Steven Engelfried <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
  2) Fire drills during story times
by Steven Engelfried <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
  3) nonfiction read alouds
by "Henegar, Sharon" <SLHenegar@ocpl.org>
  4) Appropriate touching
by Linda Goff <lgoff@lakeline.lib.fl.us>
  5) Re: First library cards
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
  6) RE: 3 little pigs
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
  7) Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids (fwd)
by Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
  8) Thank You:  Video Weeding Policies (compiled)
by "Sarah Prielipp" <seprielipp@hotmail.com>
  9) RE: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
by "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
 10) National Children's Book Week
by lrogers@sdln.net
 11) Offering certain periodicals in the library
by Traci Moritz <moritztr@oplin.lib.oh.us>
 12) RE: reading aloud non-fiction
by Beverly Bixler <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
 13) Job Opening--AZ
by "Karen-Marie Allen" <KMAllen@ci.glendale.az.us>
 14) Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
by David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
 15) Arthur Day
by bkworm@mindspring.com
 16) School classes use of public library during school hours--policies
by "Pamela Comello" <pcomello@sedonalibrary.org>
 17) Re: 3 little pigs
by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
 18) Re: National Children's Book Week
by joan blalock <jbisc2004@yahoo.com>
 19) RE: 3 little pigs ...wolves eat them
by Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com>
 20) A to Zoo
by Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
 21) AutoLibrarian Library Server 4.0
by RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
 22) Good current books on countries of the world
by RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
 23) Tower Station for Game/Educational CDs
by C6329@aol.com
 24) Call for Outreach programs for YALSA committee
by Naomi Angier <naomia@multcolib.org>
 25) Professional Job Opportunities in Las Vegas Nevada
by "Taylor Lewis H" <taylorlh@lvccld.org>
 26) Sno-Isle Regional Library Job Postings for the Week of October 16
by Valerie Worrell <VWorrell@sno-isle.org>

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From: Steven Engelfried <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: PC Plug-ins
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:48:46 CDT

At our library we're trying to get some control and consistency over our
Internet stations for kids.  We'll be disabling patrons' ability to download
plug-ins onto individual machines, so we want to have the most common
plug-ins pre-installed.  Does anyone have an already produced list of the
most common plug-ins required for kids?  We'll be looking at what they're
using in our library, but it would be great to have a basic list to start
with, if anyone has...

-Steven Engelfried, Children's Librarian
Beaverton City Library
12375 SW 5th Street
Beaverton, OR  97005
ph:  503-526-2599
fax: 503-526-2636
e-mail:  sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us

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From: Steven Engelfried <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: Fire drills during story times
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:49:13 CDT

We're updating our library evacuation plans.  Part of the process is live
fire drills.  We're considering trying this during a storytime, since we
hold it in a separate room and it involves getting a largish crowd of people
out of a concentrated space.  Does anyone have any experience with this that
they can share?  We're considering doing it with our Baby Storytime, since
those kids will be fairly oblivious...or maybe with Preschoolers, an age
where it might work as an educational experience for them.  We're assuming
we have to do it without warning to truly test it, but maybe we should
prepare parents after all?  Any suggestions will be appreciated (and shared
with the list if there's interest)....

-Steven Engelfried, Children's Librarian
Beaverton City Library
12375 SW 5th Street
Beaverton, OR  97005
ph:  503-526-2599
fax: 503-526-2636
e-mail:  sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us

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From: "Henegar, Sharon" <SLHenegar@ocpl.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: nonfiction read alouds
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:49:40 CDT

Hi gang--while I absolutely agree that nonfiction appeals to some readers
much more than fiction (and I often recommend it for reluctant readers), I
think there's another piece to this whole puzzle. Whenever I recommend books
to teachers who are looking for something to read aloud to a class, part of
my criteria is to present books that are wonderful, but that kids might not
find on their own. This is an opportunity to expose listeners to a literary
experience, to create excitement for the unfamiliar. We're wasting our time
reading aloud that which is already popular when there is so much great
stuff out there to be discovered. And for the kids who are not going to read
nonfiction on their own, hearing some fiction might be virtually their only
exposure. (And of course the opposite is true for those of us who are
fiction readers, to be hearing some nonfiction!)


Sharon Henegar
Coordinator of Children's Services
Orange County Public Library

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From: Linda Goff <lgoff@lakeline.lib.fl.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Appropriate touching
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:50:15 CDT


Dear Group Minds,
    As children's librarians in a public library setting, how much can
we touch our patrons and still be appropriate?   In storytimes, can we
hug the children, put a hand on their backs, hold their hands, and let
them sit in our laps. Can we put an arm around a parent or even hug
them?
     What if we're talking about a male children's librarian?  Can he be
"touchy feely" with the kids and parents or is that a definite no-no?  I
could really use your group advice on this topic.

Thanks in advance,
Linda Goff
Youth Services Coordinator
Lake County Library System
Tavares, FL

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: First library cards
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:50:38 CDT

I have assembled a bag at our front desk to welcome new children users
to the Library.  In it is a great brochure introducing them to the
library...rules, what we have, hours, etc.  We give them the current
Children's Room flyer listing programs.  I also keep a supply in there
of leftover pencils, stickers, bookmarks, etc., from SRC, Barnes and Noble,
promotions etc.  Then there are the books!.  We tell them it is important
to have a library of one's own.  I keep a selection of children's books
in there that we garner from donations, good used ones, or ones coming in
for the Friends book sale.  Our local Dollar Store always has a selection
also.
So they get to pick and keep a book of their own along with a few goodies.
The dollar amount is minimal but the goodwill is priceless.
Lisa Dowling
Horseheads Library

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: 3 little pigs
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:51:04 CDT

I had a good laugh reading all these posts.  When I was a child no one
ever censored fairy tales, or Bambi's mom dying etc.  We all made it
through to adulthood quite fine...I have a 10 and 12 year old I did the
same with and they seem mentally intact also despite the fact that
Old Yeller died in the end, the pigs got eaten and Snow Whites mother
was dead.  How PC can we get before we are so bland and emotionless
life is one big yawn.  Do you not read the Wild THings because "they
love him so they want to eat him up"!  If that was the case my
Uncle Sam would never have come to dinner of Sundays because that
was what he threatened to do to all of us!  We all survived!

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From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:51:29 CDT

I second this. Ours is so well used the binding is craking, does anyone
know if a new edition is on the way?
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:02:33 CDT
From: children@wlaf.lib.in.us
Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids

Quoting Janet Eckert <jcape52@yahoo.com>:
It has to be A to Zoo.  It is so hard to find subjects for picture books in
the
catalogue.  Some have them, but most do not.  This wonderful resource gives
us
a starting place.
Pam Koehler
West Lafayette Indiana Public Library
>
>  Dear Fellow PUBYACers,
>       What is your favorite reference tool - whether book or CD or video
> or
> website?  I am compiling a list of "Librarians Favorite Reference Tools
> for
> Kids (grades 1 to 12)".  My goal is to feature this compilation as a
> part of
> a workshop on basic reference for chidren.  In addition, I will include
> a
> summary of the compilation of this list within my regional library
> systems
> newsletter titled WRapper*.  Please send me your recommended title(s), a
> sentence or two about the title, and your name and library at
> jeckert@wmrls.org.  I promise to compile your recommendations and share
> them
> with this list.  Many thanks for your help.
> Sincerely,
> Janet Eckert
> Youth Services Consultant
> Western Massachusetts Regional Library System
> jeckert@wmrls.org
> WRapper is available via the web at
> http://www.wmrls.org/wrapper/index.html
>


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From: "Sarah Prielipp" <seprielipp@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Thank You:  Video Weeding Policies (compiled)
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:51:59 CDT

Thank you for sharing your video weeding policies.  Several people have
asked me to compile the list, which I have done below.  :-), Sarah


Here at Brighton, I discard any that are damaged beyond repair, I check
circulation stats to see how well they are circulating and weed if
they are not being checked out at all or very little.
We just had a vendor here from Midwest Tape and he said videos should be
able to circ. at least 300 times before they need to be discarded.  None
of our videos have been checked out that many times yet.


   Our videos are in constant circulation and we generally wait until they
"break" before discarding them.  I try to go through the collection once a
year
looking for titles that aren't circulating or for ones whose circ exceeds
150.
I find very few of the former  and when I can get my hands on the latter, I
usually discard and replace them.  By that many circulations the case is
pretty
grungy and it's just a matter of time before the tape, weakened by so many
revolutions, twists or breaks.  We have had tapes that have successfully
circed
225 times. (We have also had many tapes that break before they circ 20
times.)



I hope you will share what responses you get
with this.  I think when we first started getting
videos, we came up with some number 250/300 circs as
an indication that it was time to weed them-- but then
as time went on it seems that some videos are still
viewable even with so many circs. so maybe an
arbitrary number may not be necessary. So people
continue to want a number to use however so I will be
very interested in what you find out!


Obviously, we do discard videos that are not working. Other than that, when
I am weeding I check for circ stats. Due to our lack of space for juvenile
videos, I weed videos that have not checked out in a year. Most of those I
first offer to other library branches in our system. The ones that are not
wanted by other branches we send to the "Book Cellar", a used book & media
store operated out of the basement of our Central Library.



We weed videos once a year or also when there are no
more spaces for new videos.  I look at circulation
statistics.  If it has not checked out or only been
checked out a few times in the last year I weed it, or
if we have two policeman videos and one circs more
than the other I weed the one with less circulation.
But I still keep educational videos unless they
haven't checked out in years or are outdated.  If I
have 10 Mary Kate & Ashley's, I will weed the oldest
ones.  It depends on how much space we have.  We only
have slots for a certain number of videos.  I have to
weed about 60 at a time so it can get strict.



Here in Greene County our juvenile videos are weeded after circulating 110
times.  The thought being that the children probably watch the videos at
least twice while they have them at home for a one week circulation.  Our
adult videos are weeded after 225 circulations.  Our Automation department
runs a list by circ per item.  We then weed those copies and replace if it
is a popular video and if it is still available


I work in a very busy suburban library, community population
about 130,000.  The fasted growing parts of our collection,
circulation-wise, are our audiovisual collections, both children's
and adult.  I have always used the rough guideline that if a patron
brought in a video with over 100 circs that was damaged we would not
charge them for the video.  I am currently working on a project to
weed our collection.  It corresponds with our recent AV policy
disclaiming liability for damages to patron's equipment.  I had a
report printed of every video with over 200 circs.  I plan to weed
them all.  My main concern with children's videos is that each circ
is just a small representation of the number of uses - kids will
watch a video over & over again.  I keep meaning to call the local
Blockbusters & see if they have a magic number of uses, but haven't
gotten around to it yet.    Next, I'll be looking at a report of
zero circ videos - we haven't got room to house videos that don't
go out!




    We assess our collection twice yearly usually in conjunction with our
FOL book sales.  We pull all videos that are older and check on the system
to see whether they have circulated well.  If they have circulated less than
five times a year for the past two years and if it is not considered a
"classic" we then delete them and sell for $5 each.



The library I now work at never weeded videos before I came (except
discarding the occassional non-working one)...and this is quite obvious if
you see how many are on the shelf. I weeded our video collection about two
months ago because it was just getting too big. I looked at how many times
it circed, if we had other (newer) copies of that title and I looked at the
age of the video. While going through this I weeded almost 150 videos; it
hasn't made a lot of difference shelving wise, but I am glad I made the
decision to weed. Incidently, while I was weeding them I was finding 4 and
even 5 copies of some titles (we serve a population of 28,000)!


*********************************************************************

Sarah Prielipp
Youth Services Associate
Veterans Memorial Library
Mount Pleasant, Michigan

*********************************************************************
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it is hard
to read." -- Groucho Marx


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From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:52:23 CDT

Folks-- I do workshops several times a year on filtering and terminal
supervision in public libraries, & as part of those workshops I always ask
the librarians attending how often they've seen young people (teens or
younger) looking at pornographic Web sites on library terminals. It's
resounding everywhere: almost nobody raises their hands. "We just don't see
it happening," librarians have always told me, & if it does happen, it's
only once or twice over the past few years. When I worked as a youth
librarian, I hardly ever saw it happening. I frequently interview librarians
on CIPA-related issues for SLJ news stories, and librarians I interview say
that kids looking at porn in their library just aren't a problem. Do I have
any hard figures? I wish I did--nobody to my knowledge has done a study on
this topic--but the overwhelming anecdotal evidence from professionals
convinces me.

There are a small number of disturbed men who will go to some libraries and
sit at the terminals & look at porn as long as you'll let them, but they are
almost always over 18. Often these guys will leave multiple windows of
hardcore images on the screen when they leave, just to upset people (I cite
the example of the Minneapolis Public Library, where staff initiated a
lawsuit against the administration last spring because they felt they were
being harrassed by these guys; they also felt the administration's
no-filters policy wasn't supporting them). But these are about 2% or less of
all people viewing sites in public libraries, and a library can control
their viewing with privacy screens, well-written library behavior and Net
terminal use policies, and effective timeout software that quits the browser
after each user. I think that the "kids looking at porn on the Net in
libraries" issue is a red herring thrown out by conservative &
fundamentalist groups to promote censorship, and boosted by the media.

As always, my opinions are my own. --W
------------------------------
Walter Minkel, Technology Editor, School Library Journal
www.slj.com * wminkel@cahners.com * 212-463-6721 * fax 212-463-6689


-----Original Message-----
From: Becky Borup [mailto:bb1775@excite.com]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:05 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT


I, too, have questions along the lines of Ms. Easterling. I have seen the
postings about some libraries carrying PlayGirl and PlayBoy, but that isn't
my question. I understand why internet filtering does not work.  My
questions have to do with acceptable use policies for children.  What kinds
of internet access policies do you all have?  Who enforces them?  Are
children allowed to access pornography because of their intellectual
freedom?  Do libraries just say that they are not the parents and leave it
at that?

I have just started library school, and I'm trying to learn all I can.  This
is an issue I am concerned with, and I want to see what librarians in the
field are doing with this issue?  I would sure appreciate your ideas and
experiences.

Thank you,

Becky Borup
bb1775@excite.com

>  Mr. Wood,
>      I have never seen a library with "Playboy", "Playgirl", "Penthouse"
or anything along that line of magazines on a library shelf.  Why would we
want to offer it off the internet?  I would not use them as a reference
material in the first place.  So why not block that kind of material out?
Respectfully, Frances Easterling
>





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From: lrogers@sdln.net
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: National Children's Book Week
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:52:49 CDT

We are doing a Mystery Afternooon for 3rd-5th grade using a Double Dog
Mystery
and the Young Friends of the Library (6th-12th graders).  We will have a
Doughnuts with Dad PreSchool and probably younger) evening storytime. Our
special event we hope will be Charlie Williams, the Noise Guy, on Saturday
for
a Grande Finale!! During the week we will have a "Guess the number of gummy
bears in the jar" Contest. Prizes will be the Travelin/ Bears we used in our
Summer Reading Prpgram.

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From: Traci Moritz <moritztr@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Offering certain periodicals in the library
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:53:21 CDT

Did they keep the magazines behind the reference desk?
They were kept behind the circ desk if I remember correctly.

Did they allow them to be check out?
I can't remember if they circulated but I remember just copying the
articles.

When I get the chance I plan on looking to see if EBSCO has any of the
Play mags.
Before responding the first time, I checked Ebsco and found nothing
indexed.

I do remember my professor talking about how he wasn't condoning the
information in the magazine, but that it was important to make the
information available... This statement made a profound impact on me as
I remember it, but not the name of the professor!


Thanks for sharing,  Frances Easterling
You are welcome. Traci


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From: Beverly Bixler <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: reading aloud non-fiction
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:53:47 CDT

You mentioned two books "Into Thin Air" and "Maiden Voyage" without
mentioning the author for either book. A look in our OPAC shows several
listing for each title, & each by a different author! Please include the
authors names with the titles -- not all of us know which of the books you
are promoting. Thanks.
Beverly Bixler
San Antonio Public Library, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: Aarene Storms [mailto:astorms@kcls.org]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 10:04 AM
To: pubyac
Subject: reading aloud non-fiction


I make a point of booktalking non-fiction whenever I visit a school.  My
biggest challenge wasn't the students--it was the teachers!

It took a lot of convincing to get them to accept that "Into Thin Air"
and "Maiden Voyage" were just as wonderful as "Hatchet" and "Jason's Gold"
for
their survival-genre assignment. I read excerpts from each book during my
visit, and actually (finally) got a teacher to read one (Into Thin Air).
After
that, it was easy: SHE convinced the other teachers to allow non-fiction
books
for the assignment.

<grin>

--Aarene
Most of my life I've spent reading books and riding horses.
The rest, I've just wasted.
Aarene Storms     astorms@kcls.org
Richmond Beach and Kenmore Libraries
King County Library System

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From: "Karen-Marie Allen" <KMAllen@ci.glendale.az.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Job Opening--AZ
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:54:17 CDT


FOOTHILLS BRANCH LIBRARY
GLENDALE,ARIZONA
www.ci.glendale.az.us

LIBRARIAN I - YOUTH SERVICES

SALARY:  $34,617 to $50,189 annually=20
OPPORTUNITY: Open Competitive
OPENING DATE: October 15, 2001=20
CLOSING DATE: October 26, 2001 at 5:00 p.m.

JOB ELEMENTS:
=B7 Provides reference services and reader's advisory to the public and =
other departments and agencies.
=B7 Directs, instructs and assists patrons and city employees in the use =
of library reference tools, on-line computer catalogs, electronic =
databases and other resources.
=B7 Formulates search strategies and performs on-line computer searches; =
assists patrons with research strategies; assists students with research =
topics.
=B7 Plans, organizes and conducts activities and programs within a library =
department; develops and implements promotion for the programs.
=B7 Selects new materials for the library collection; provides direction =
regarding the classification of new materials in the collection.
=B7 Coordinates the collection for assigned areas of the library.
=B7 Evaluates donated and damaged materials for disposition.
=B7 Researches and compiles research information on request; develops =
annotated bibliographies, indices and study guides.
=B7 Participates in the development or revision of library policies and =
procedures.
=B7 Enforces library policies, procedures and regulations with patrons.
=B7 Creates, catalogs, classifies and edits marc records for local and =
international databases.
=B7 Conducts library tours, makes presentations to school and community =
groups both on and off site.
=B7 Participates in the training and supervision of staff and volunteers.
=B7 Participates in the evaluation of library collections and the =
development of long-term library goals and strategies.
MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:  Master's Degree in Library Science from an =
American Library Association accredited University.  Any equivalent =
combination of education and experience, which provides the required =
knowledge, skills and abilities, is qualifying.  May be required to work =
evenings, weekends and holidays.=20

 SELECTION PROCESS: Applications will be screened for the minimum =
qualifications and special  requirements.  Applicants meeting the minimum =
qualifications and special requirements will be placed on an eligibility =
list.  The hiring department will contact those candidates they wish to =
test and/or interview.=20
DURING THE SELECTION PROCESS, ANY APPLICANT REQUIRING ACCOMMODATION FOR A =
DISABILITY SHOULD ADVISE THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.
RESUME MAY ONLY SERVE AS A SUPPLEMENT TO YOUR APPLICATION.

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From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:54:47 CDT

The question is, are there filters that will JUST block pornographic
images and NOT breast cancer, wicca, NOW, or Essex County, NJ?

David


David Serchay
a013213t@bc.seflin.org


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From: bkworm@mindspring.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Arthur Day
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:55:14 CDT

We are having an Arthur Day (Marc Brown character) in November at our
library.  Someone will be coming in an Arthur costume, and I am looking for
crafts and games to round out the day.  I have gotten a great deal of help
from the pbs for kids website and also some crafts from dltk website.
Mostly, I would like to hear from anyone out there who may have done a
similar event, and has some original ideas.  I have not come up with an idea
for a game at all yet.  Thank you for your help.  Please reply to
bkworm@mindspring.com

Mary Jones
Huntsville Public Library
Huntsville, AL

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From: "Pamela Comello" <pcomello@sedonalibrary.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: School classes use of public library during school hours--policies
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:55:39 CDT

To all Youth Services Public Librarians:

I am interested in gathering ideas out there to help formulate some
guidelines to share with school teachers who want to bring their entire
class or portions of the class to the Public Library during school hours.
We have a new Charter school being constructed next door, and grades K-8
will soon move in.  I expect usage to go up greatly, which I am all in favor
of, but I want these kids to be able to be served as best possible.  The
school does not have their own library or librarian, and some of the classes
are within walking distance now and come over 2-3 times a week.  This is
besides many other schools who call to make appointments to bring their
classes.  We have very limited space; and will soon be in the midst of a
building expansion of the Youth area.

Have any other Youth Librarians experienced similar situations..or do any of
you have policies or guidelines that you have voiced/handed out to schools
to structure their visits somewhat?  Please respond personally to me, and if
there are a number of responses, I will share the summary of this
information on PUBYAC.

Thanks,
Pamela Comello, Head of Youth Services
Sedona Public Library
3250 White Bear Road
Sedona, AZ. 86336
1-928-282-7714
FAX: 1-928-282-5789

pcomello@sedonalibrary.org

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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: 3 little pigs
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Marie,  I understand your point, but is it our job to criticize what the
patrons are asking for?  I think not.  It is our job to provide the best
possible service in the most timely manner.  This patron is asking for
something very specific, and we are here to help provide it if at all
possible.  I know this list has been through this "discussion" before, but
it never fails to get my temper up when a librarian is judgmental of a
patrons request.

(stepping off my soap box now)

Lorie

Lorie J. O'Donnell
Jervis Public Library Children's Room
Rome, NY   13440

To teach is to learn again. -H. Jackson Brown

>
> Then just dont read it!!!
> I dont mean to <flame> anyone, but it burns me when adults who should know
> better, want to change traditional literature. OK for parodies, etc. but
if
> a story is upsetting to a child of a certain age, wait until the child is
> ready for the story. DONT make the story fit the child!

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From: joan blalock <jbisc2004@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: National Children's Book Week
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:56:24 CDT

National Childrens book week is a big deal in our
dept.  We have "celebrity readers" at our regular
storytimes(mayor,county council, local tv
personalities,county librarians)...a parade of
favorite book characters...and a special family
reading night with John Tudor (John Tudor Magician,
John Tudor, has created shows for youths to teach them
positive values. He also performs for adults and
companies.
http://www.tudormagic.com/)


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From: Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: 3 little pigs ...wolves eat them
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:56:48 CDT

I  agree - literature, movies, television etc should
not be watered down  for three year olds...Their
parents should be held accountable for withholding
some things until they are old enough or mature enough
to handle it.  And all adults should recognize that
children do not mature at the same magic age either.
Group programs can still be targeted toward a norm of
expectations and if a child is overly sensitive or
immature then that child can be held out or removed
and let the group move forward.   D F Slaton
"misspockets3@yahoo.com"
--- "P_Marie (Marie McDermed)" <P_Marie@KCLIBRARY.ORG>
wrote:
>  Then just dont read it!!!
>   I dont mean to <flame> anyone, but it burns me
> when adults who should know
> better, want to change traditional literature. OK
> for parodies, etc. but if
> a story is upsetting to a child of a certain age,
> wait until the child is
> ready for the story. DONT make the story fit the
> child!
>   I blame a great deal of this on Disney, but it is
> not completely his
> fault. Even Disney is shown to children who are too
> young and are upset by
> witches, scary scenes, etc. This does not mean we
> should change the movie
> and make it easier yet.  Disney films were intended
> for children about 8 yrs
> and up. They were for those children who could go to
> the movies on Saturday
> and sit through 2-3 hours alone. It is not Disney's
> fault that parents of
> today equate Disney with cuddly stuff.
>   We loose so much when the pigs who behave stupidly
> survive; when the evil
> stepmother does not dance to her de ath in red-hot
> shoes made of iron at Snow
> White's wedding, when Chicken Licken survives to
> reach the King, and on and
> on.
>
> previous message:
> A pre-K teacher came in asking for a version of The
> Three Little Pigs that is as close as possible to
> the
> original (i.e. no major variations, additional
> details, or parodies, etc.) but doesn't have the
> wolf
> eating the first two pigs. David McPhail wrote a
> nice
> one a few years back, but it seems to be out of
> print.
> I was hoping someon e might be able to recommend
> another well-written version. In the pig tales
> <grin>
> by Galdone, Marshall, Ziefert, and others, only the
> third pig survives, and the teacher is worried that
> some of the children might be a little disturbed by
> that.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> =====
> Rebecca Smith, recent MLS grad
> read2yourbunny@yahoo.com
>
> "It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly
> are,
> far more than our abilities."
> --Albus Dumbledore ( J.K. Rowling)
>
w

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From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: A to Zoo
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:57:24 CDT

Just yesterday I seconded someone else's recommendation of A to Zoo as one
of the most valuable children's reference books and finished by asking if
anyone knew if a new edition was coming out. Just this morning I got
something from bowker with new editions of A to Zoo and Best books for
children.
Just thought I would pass it on.
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org

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From: RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: AutoLibrarian Library Server 4.0
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:57:57 CDT


Dear all,
     I am a new elementary school librarian who went from automated back to
the card system.  I don't know when we will be automated, but it has been
talked about for the past few years, from what I have heard, to no avail.
     What I am wondering is about the AutoLibrarian Library Server 4.0 in
the Highsmith catalog.  It's only about $340, but I don't know anything
about it.  Has anyone out there experienced this?  How well does it work?
If we end up automating in 2-3 years, will it have been worth the price?
Will I be able to transfer the information from this system to another
automation system?  Any feedback whatsoever will be appreciated.  There is
a free Demo available, that we will probably send for.
     Thank you in advance for any comments that you have about this
product.
                             Rosemarie Grainer
                             CLVCS - Little Valley Elementary
                             rgrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org

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From: RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
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Subject: Good current books on countries of the world
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Dear all,
     It seems to be my day for requests.  As I am going through my card
catalog, I find that all my books on foreign countries are c. 1960's -
1970's.  What do you have that is a wonderful collection of books on
foreign
countries at a good price?  I am looking at World Almanac's Enchantment of
the World series.  I can get Set 1 now, and maybe 2 in a little bit, and
Sets 3 & 4 next year.  I want something for grades 4 - 6 that gives info
about places like Iraq, etc. (our copy is from 1962!)that is readable and
interesting for my kids.  I'm not asking for much, I know!!  :-)
     Does anyone have any suggestions or comments on this, or any other
series of country books that you feel would be appropriate for my kids?
     Thanks in advance for all your help.  I love this list.
     Take care and have a great day.
                        Rosemarie Grainer
                        CLVCS - Little Valley Elementary School
                        rgrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org

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From: C6329@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Tower Station for Game/Educational CDs
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:58:47 CDT

It is my understanding this question as already appeared on this listserv.
Unfortunately, I am new to this listserv.

The Youth Services Department at Matteson Public Library is looking to add a
station for game/educational cds with a tower.  It is my understanding there
is a new, top-of- the line tower available.  Can anyone supply me with the
details on the tower?

Also, it is my understanding there is a software that can be purchased to
clean up computers having game/educational cds.  Can anyone supply me with
the details on that software as well?

Thank you.

Carole Petro
Matteson Public Library
Matteson, IL

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From: Naomi Angier <naomia@multcolib.org>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Call for Outreach programs for YALSA committee
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:59:14 CDT

The YALSA Outreach to Young Adults with Special Needs committee is putting
together a booklet of library outreach programs for young adults and
library programs for young adults with special needs. If your library is
doing any programs for special needs young adults or outreach programs to
young adults who cannot come to the public library, we'd love to have your
program in our publication. Some of the types of programs we are talking
about are:
Programs for pregnant teenagers
Programs for teens in detention
Programs for teens with physical or mental disabilities
Programs for non-English speaking teens & immigrant teens
Programs for socio-economically deprived teens
Other?
Please include the name of the program, a brief description of the
program, and all relevant contact information (your name, name and address
of library, telephone number and email address for more information)
Please send the program descriptions to Naomi Angier at
naomia@multcolib.org or send them by snail mail to the address below.


Naomi Angier Librarian: Juvenile Justice Outreach
Multnomah County Library 205 NE Russell   Portland, OR  97212
(503)988-5412(v) (503)988-5441(f) naomia@multcolib.org

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From: "Taylor Lewis H" <taylorlh@lvccld.org>
To: "REFORMA" <reformanet@lmrinet.ucsb.edu>,
Subject: Professional Job Opportunities in Las Vegas Nevada
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:59:36 CDT

The Las Vegas-Clark County Library District is recruiting for:

YPL/CHILDREN'S SERVICES LIBRARIAN

Salary Range is $35,734 to $48,880 annually with a very attractive
benefits package.

Minimum Qualifications are a Master's in Library Science (ALA
accredited) and coursework in children's literature.

For complete information on this announcement, and other employment
opportunity view our web page at http://www.lvccld.org or contact the
Human Resources Department, 833 Las Vegas Boulevard North, Las Vegas,
Nevada 89101,  (702) 382-3493 ext. 280 between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.
PDT.  The Las Vegas-Clark County Library District is an Equal
Opportunity Employer, and proudly promotes diversity in employment.
Applications will be accepted until November 30, 2001.

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From: Valerie Worrell <VWorrell@sno-isle.org>
To: Greg Yorba <gyorba@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU>, Linda Frederiksen
Subject: Sno-Isle Regional Library Job Postings for the Week of October 16
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:59:57 CDT

Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a Librarian - Children's Services
position open at the Arlington Library in Washington State. Job #0181 Open
Until Filled. For more information and to obtain an application on this
employment opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
<http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
____________________________________________________________________________
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Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a  Managing Librarian III position open
at the Lynnwood Library in Washington State. Job #0157 Closes OPEN UNTIL
FILLED. For more information and to obtain an application on this employment
opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
<http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
____________________________________________________________________________
____________________________

Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a  Managing Librarian II position at
the Marysville Library in Washington State. Job #0167 Closes OPEN UNTIL
FILLED. For more information and to obtain an application on this employment
opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
<http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
____________________________________________________________________________
____________________________

Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a Librarian I - Substitute open for the
South Region Libraries in Washington State. Job #0194 Closes 10/17/01. For
more information and to obtain an application on this employment
opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
<http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
____________________________________________________________________________
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Thank you
Valerie Worrell
Sno-Isle Regional Library System
Human Resources Department
360-651-7004

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