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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 583
PUBYAC Digest 583
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Read aloud program
by John Simpson <jsimpson03@SNET.Net>
2) RE: Appropriate touching
by "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
3) Re: Children's Room Features
by Library Lovers <LibraryLovers@calibraries.org>
4) Appropriate touching
by "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
5) Re: [RE: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT]
by David Mignerey <d.mignerey@lanepl.org>
6) People Counters to Collect Statistics - Input wanted
by "Marilyn Nykiforuk" <marilynn@cclib.org>
7) Re:Story Hour Kits for Distribution
by "Barbara Beckett" <b_beckett@hotmail.com>
8) Collecting Refence Question Statistics - How do you do it?
by "Marilyn Nykiforuk" <marilynn@cclib.org>
9) Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids (fwd)
by "Martha Edmundson" <Martha.Edmundson@cityofdenton.com>
10) fire drills during storytime
by "Karen Vollmar" <KVOLLMAR@waukesha.lib.wi.us>
11) Re: Appropriate touching
by "M. Mills" <mmills@stic.lib.tx.us>
12) RE: Good current books on countries of the world
by "Barron, Stacie" <StacieB@mail.jefferson.lib.la.us>
13) Are Snorks related to Smurfs?
by spann <spann@students.uiuc.edu>
14) Craft Question
by Sandy Belfi <sbelfi@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
15) Re: National Children's Book Week
by Elizabeth A Fernandez <efad@juno.com>
16) Web page design
by Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
17) Three Little Pigs
by "Jackie Marquardt" <jmarquar@timberland.lib.wa.us>
18) library sleepovers
by Jill Hinn <jhinn@amber2.jefferson.lib.co.us>
19) Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids (fwd)
by Laurie Magee <magee@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG>
20) Halloween Complaint
by Kim <kok@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>
21) Re: Appropriate touching
by "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
22) Re: Appropriate touching
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
23) RE: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
by "Gwendolyn Haley" <ghaley@kcls.org>
24) Re: holocaust bib
by Adela Peskorz <peskorza@yahoo.com>
25) Teen surveys to share?
by Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
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From: John Simpson <jsimpson03@SNET.Net>
To: goodnightmoon@connix.com, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Read aloud program
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:12:06 CDT
Thanks to all who sent suggestions. My staff voted for "Chapter
by Chapter"
as
the group's name.
Martha Simpson, Stratford (CT) Library
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From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: Appropriate touching
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:12:28 CDT
Linda-- Ah, now here's an issue that resounds deeply for me, as a 20+ year
male children's librarian. Although the _vast_ majority of parents were
great, & encouraged a male working with kids, I realized early that some
parents grew nervous with a man who (oh, dear) chose a career working with
children. There were several incidents in which I approached kids in the
library picture book area and asked them if they were looking for anything
special--behavior that would have been considered appropriate and normal for
a female children's librarian--and parents nearby swooped over and asked me
who I was. I was never so happy as the day that my library system started
providing badges for the staff, so that I wore a clear tag that "I work
here!"
I did thousands of toddler & preschool storytimes--& had a great
time doing
them. I always invited parents to join us in the storytime room, so that
there was never any suspicion of... well, anything (I have a loud voice that
comes from years of doing puppet shows, so I never had any trouble
projecting over chatting parents). If kids came up and hugged me, I hugged
them back, but I never initiated the hug. I don't think any female
children's librarian has ever had to be concerned about these issues, right?
Due to reports in the media, and an underlying suspicion that there must be
something "odd" about a man who chooses to work with kids, I
openly told
everyone that I chose working with kids because I loved the creative freedom
that working with kids brings. (That doesn't mean, however, that it isn't
wise to "model" proper behavior on the job, just as we model the
best way to
read a book aloud, or tell a story.) I'd be happy to talk about my
hard-learned "best practices" over e-mail, if you're interested.
--W
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Walter Minkel * Technology Editor, School Library Journal * www.slj.com
wminkel@cahners.com * (212)
463-6721 * fax (212) 463-6689
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Goff [SMTP:lgoff@lakeline.lib.fl.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:50 PM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Appropriate touching
>
>
> Dear Group Minds,
> As children's librarians in a public library
setting, how much can
> we touch our patrons and still be appropriate? In
storytimes, can we
> hug the children, put a hand on their backs, hold their hands, and let
> them sit in our laps. Can we put an arm around a parent or even hug
> them?
> What if we're talking about a male
children's librarian? Can he be
> "touchy feely" with the kids and parents or is that a
definite no-no? I
> could really use your group advice on this topic.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Linda Goff
> Youth Services Coordinator
> Lake County Library System
> Tavares, FL
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From: Library Lovers <LibraryLovers@calibraries.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Children's Room Features
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:12:51 CDT
I had the honor of a preview walk thru tour of the NEW
expansion of the Cerritos Library. As part of the team
the hired a "Theme Park" designer -- I predict this library
will change how libraies are designed!
"...The first floor will also house a newly redesigned and enlarged
children's room with an expanded collection of 80,000 books, more reading
and study space and features designed to mesmerize young readers. A
floor-to-ceiling saltwater aquarium, swimming with hundreds of colorful
fish and sea creatures, will separate the room from the lobby and a group
of giant books will mark the doorway.
With the theme "Save the Planet," the room will be an interactive
learning
environment, featuring a full-size replica of a Tyrannosaurus Rex dinosaur
fossil, a rain forest, multimedia learning centers and a video monitor that
lets young readers see themselves against a backdrop of changing literary
and historic characters..."
Check it out online at
http://library.ci.cerritos.ca.us/expansion.html
MAKE SURE you visit "Photos and renderings" at
http://library.ci.cerritos.ca.us/expansion/photointro.html
Stephanie Stokes
"Library Media & PR Online"
http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/content/p100400a.shtml
At 10:00 PM 10/16/01 CDT, you wrote:
>Hello Everyone!
>
>I have a fun project for anyone who's willing to
>participate.
>
>My library is in the *very* beginning stages of
>planning a new Central facility. At this point in the
>game the sky's the limit. We are suppose to throw any
>and all possibilities at the consultants and then they
>will determine what is actually doable.
>
>I would like to know what your top 3 features would be
>for a library Children's Room if you could have
>anything you wanted. If you have a newer facility I'd
>really like to hear about new trends and ideas, but
>I'll take ideas from anybody with a wild imagination
>(I might finally get my chocolate bridge!).
>
>Also if you have anything that you absolutely HATE and
>would remove/change if you could, I'd like to know
>that too.
>
>If any of you high-tech people have pictures of
>existing features you love/hate that you could email
>I'd love to see them.
>
>Thanks in advance! If I get anything that seems worth
>sharing, I'll post it.
>
>Jennifer Baker
>Fresno Co. Library
>jbaker93711@yahoo.com
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
>http://personals.yahoo.com
>
>
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From: "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
To: "PUBYAC\\: PUBlic librarians servi" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Appropriate touching
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:13:09 CDT
Since all of my story hours are "family", the parents are in the
room =
with the children. I have at least one child a year who insists on =
sitting on my lap during part of a story hour. The child's choice.
I =
will occasionally put a child in my lap to prevent distraction, crazed =
parent etc. Just the other evening I picked up a weeping three year
old =
to distract her from her wet butterfly painting. She immediately =
stopped weeping, the mother smiled gratefully, and I looked like a =
miracle worker. I'm not just a different pair of hands and a different
=
voice.
The point of this rant is...I think touching is very important. I
think =
we have gotten away from good touches because of the very good =
information about bad touches etc. BUT...BUT...but you have to be
aware =
and sensitive to the child and the adults. Some kids hate being =
touched. Some parents hate having other adults touch their kids.
You =
have to be aware of those things. You have to know your patrons and =
your community. =20
Peace and Blessings,
Cathy Norman
Youth Services Librarian
Fairport Harbor Public Library
Fairport Harbor, OH 44077
*Of course my opinions are my own...
Who else would want them?*
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From: David Mignerey <d.mignerey@lanepl.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org, pubyac@prairienet.org
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: [RE: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT]
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Greetings,
I think that there is obviously a disproportionate fear of children and t=
eens
viewing porn. However, I would be careful about trying to paint all Chris=
tians
and conservatives with a broad brush. Librarians seem to have a self defe=
ating
attitude about many issues that tends to alienate moderate and even liber=
al
types. We paint ourselves into ideological corners.
Here is an idea. Each Library or system could establish a configuration
benchmark for workstations that is reset every evening at closing. Perhap=
s we
could hire some enterprising or disadvantaged teens who would do this wor=
k to
learn more about computers.
Regards,
Dave M
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From: "Marilyn Nykiforuk" <marilynn@cclib.org>
To: <fl-lib@florida3.dos.state.fl.us>,
Subject: People Counters to Collect Statistics - Input wanted
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:14:11 CDT
Currently our library system is not using door counters to count the number
of people that enter the library. Over the years we have held a
bi-annual
survey for one week to determine the number of people entering the library.
For one week a greeter (library volunteer) sat at the front door greeting
all library patrons and in the process counting them. We then used
these
numbers to calculate how many people annually used the library. As you
can
see it is not totally accurate, very labor intensive and has also resulted
in being annoying to regular library patrons. Thus, we would like to
purchase people counters.
I have collected information on 7 companies that make and sell people
counters. They are Chambers Electronics, MWalker Co., Plescon, Salco,
Q-Scan (Elmech Co), Sentrymaster, and Watchman Electronic Products. I
am
interested in knowing:
What people counter you are using?
What are the positive and negative experiences you have had with the
product? For example, is the counter regularly malfunctioning?
Is the
counter easy to use? Etc.
Would you recommend this product to somebody else?
Any other information you would like to offer would be appreciated.
I am willing to share this information with everyone on the list. You
may
email me at marilynn@cclib.org
Thank you.
Marilyn J. Nykiforuk
Citrus County Library System
marilynn@cclib.org
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From: "Barbara Beckett" <b_beckett@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re:Story Hour Kits for Distribution
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:14:38 CDT
Hello
I have enjoyed reading all your comments over the last year.
This is my first request for help.
Our library system would like to put together Story Hour Kits for ages 3-5
to loan out to the public and organizations such as nursery schools and
outreach programs. Each kit would include books and instruction
booklet
with: songs and fingerplays, activity and craft ideas. Has anyone
tried
doing anything similar? I would appreciate any suggestions you could
offer.
Some questions I have are: How was the program promoted, what was included
in the kits, and who did you loan them to?
Thank You
Barbara Beckett
Children's Services
Lambton County Library
Wyoming, Ontario
e-mail b_beckett@hotmail.com
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From: "Marilyn Nykiforuk" <marilynn@cclib.org>
To: <fl-lib@florida3.dos.state.fl.us>,
Subject: Collecting Refence Question Statistics - How do you do it?
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:15:09 CDT
Hi again,
I have one more question. I guess you could say we are refining our
statistic collection process.
We have relied on our bi-annual survey, which is held for one week in April
and one week in October, to determine the number of reference questions
asked at each of our libraries. During these weeks all staff keep
track of
the number of reference questions they are asked. They do this by
placing a
tick mark on a sheet of paper. All sheets of paper are collected at
the end
of the day and tallied. By using the law of averages, we determine how
many
reference questions are asked annually. We would like to refine our
reference statistics process. Any input you can provide would be
appreciated.
I am interested in knowing:
How often do you collect reference statistics - daily, weekly, monthly, or
just annually?
What is your process for collecting statistics? Such as ticks on a
blank
piece of paper that are totaled at the end of the end of the day or a
standard reference question form used daily and divided into such categories
as Informational Questions, General Reference Questions and Advanced
Research Questions.
Who handles the collection of statistics?
Do all library workers know how to record reference statistics?
Any other information you are willing to provide is appreciated. If
you
have statistic sheets, you can either email them to me or send via snail
mail.
Email is marilynn@cclib.org
Any information I collect will be shared.
Thank you.
Marilyn J. Nykiforuk
Citrus County Library System
425 W. Roosevelt Blvd.
Beverly Hills, FL 34465
marilynn@cclib.org
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From: "Martha Edmundson" <Martha.Edmundson@cityofdenton.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids (fwd)
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The 6th edition of A to Zoo is out. We received our copies last week. This =
is definitely one of my favorite reference tools.=20
By the way, this title should be ordered from Greenwood Publishing Group, =
not Bowker. We were told that Bowker was not carrying the youth titles??
Martha
Martha Edmundson
Coordinator of Youth Services
Denton Public Library
502 Oakland Street
Denton, TX 76201
940/349-8572
940/349-8260 (fax)
martha.edmundson@cityofdenton.com
>>> jrines@ocln.org 10/16/01
09:51PM >>>
I second this. Ours is so well used the binding is craking, does anyone
know if a new edition is on the way?
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org=20
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:02:33 CDT
From: children@wlaf.lib.in.us=20
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Subject: Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids
Quoting Janet Eckert <jcape52@yahoo.com>:
It has to be A to Zoo. It is so hard to find subjects for picture
books =
in
the
catalogue. Some have them, but most do not. This wonderful
resource =
gives
us
a starting place.
Pam Koehler
West Lafayette Indiana Public Library
>
> Dear Fellow PUBYACers,
> What is your favorite reference
tool - whether book or CD or video
> or
> website? I am compiling a list of "Librarians Favorite
Reference Tools
> for
> Kids (grades 1 to 12)". My goal is to feature this
compilation as a
> part of
> a workshop on basic reference for chidren. In addition, I will
include
> a
> summary of the compilation of this list within my regional library
> systems
> newsletter titled WRapper*. Please send me your recommended
title(s), a
> sentence or two about the title, and your name and library at
> jeckert@wmrls.org. I
promise to compile your recommendations and share
> them
> with this list. Many thanks for your help.
> Sincerely,
> Janet Eckert
> Youth Services Consultant
> Western Massachusetts Regional Library System
> jeckert@wmrls.org=20
> WRapper is available via the web at
> http://www.wmrls.org/wrapper/index.html=20
>
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From: "Karen Vollmar" <KVOLLMAR@waukesha.lib.wi.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: fire drills during storytime
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:15:58 CDT
In response to Steven Engelfried's query about fire drills during =
storytime: If you plan to do it during preschool storytime, how about
=
doing it toward the end of a storytime about safety? At least they
would =
be in a "safety" frame of mind! I have done a safety
storytime during =
Fire Prevention Week (it was more lighthearted than it sounds!). Used
=
books like OFFICER BUCKLE AND GLORIA and NO DRAGONS FOR TEA. I'd be
happy =
to share details about it, if you wish.
I would be really concerned about the parents panicking, especially if =
they are not in the same room as their preschoolers during storytime, so =
some notice might be appropriate?? There may even be parents who don't
=
want their children to be part of a fire drill or who would want to =
discuss emergency procedures with their children ahead of time. I'm
not =
sure how to approach it with them without "tipping them off." =20
I think this is a topic which we, as children's librarians, should give =
some thought to. A real fire could happen at any time in our
libraries. =
This question deserves a lot of discussion! =20
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From: "M. Mills" <mmills@stic.lib.tx.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Appropriate touching
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:16:26 CDT
I find this situation really difficult because children will run up behind
me wherever I am in the building and grab my legs from behind to hug me
sometimes, almost bowling me over. Their parents don't mind this, and
I
extricate myself with as much dignity as I can and still let the child know
that I am not upset with them showing affection in this manner. I try
not
to be too familiar with them, especially in daycare storytime situations,
because I want them to be independent and not be "looking for hugging,
etc.
affection" from others who might not be kid-friendly. I even have
children
who edge themselves up into the reference desk chair upon which I am
sitting, planting themselves in my lap during the time I am helping other
patrons. Their parents let them do this without a qualm, and while I
appreciate their trust and love, I still find it a difficult situation
because I don't want the child to be upset when I push them off my lap.
I
very carefully and with affection ask the particular child not to sit in my
lap because I am at work and I have to jump up and down to answer peoples'
questions. Fortunately, this kind of affection disappears as the
children
get older and/or find another child with whom they can play. Until
then, I
treat every child who approaches me with dignity and respect. This is a
really difficult topic with no easy answers.
Linda Goff wrote:
> Dear Group Minds,
> As children's librarians in a public library
setting, how much can
> we touch our patrons and still be appropriate? In
storytimes, can we
> hug the children, put a hand on their backs, hold their hands, and let
> them sit in our laps. Can we put an arm around a parent or even hug
> them?
> What if we're talking about a male
children's librarian? Can he be
> "touchy feely" with the kids and parents or is that a
definite no-no? I
> could really use your group advice on this topic.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Linda Goff
> Youth Services Coordinator
> Lake County Library System
> Tavares, FL
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From: "Barron, Stacie" <StacieB@mail.jefferson.lib.la.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Good current books on countries of the world
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We just got in a series at our library that seems really good. It's
called
A Ticket To.... These books are rather informative. They usually
start off
with a large picture of a map of the country in color. The information
in
there tells about geology, history, family life, government, religion and
customs. There are several books in the series. I checked and it
seems the
price is fairly reasonable. The copyright date is 2001.
The countries listed in the series are:
Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Costa Rica, Egypt, France,
India, Indonesia, Israel, Jamaica, Japan, Kenya, Madagascar, Mexico,
Nigeria, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa,
Venezuela and Vietnam.
Stacie Barron
Children's Librarian
East Bank Regional Library
Metairie, LA
-----Original Message-----
From: RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
[mailto:RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Good current books on countries of the world
Dear all,
It seems to be my day for requests. As I am
going through my card
catalog, I find that all my books on foreign countries are c. 1960's -
1970's. What do you have that is a wonderful collection of books on
foreign
countries at a good price? I am looking at World Almanac's Enchantment
of
the World series. I can get Set 1 now, and maybe 2 in a little bit,
and
Sets 3 & 4 next year. I want something for grades 4 - 6 that gives
info
about places like Iraq, etc. (our copy is from 1962!)that is readable and
interesting for my kids. I'm not asking for much, I know!! :-)
Does anyone have any suggestions or comments on
this, or any other
series of country books that you feel would be appropriate for my kids?
Thanks in advance for all your help. I love
this list.
Take care and have a great day.
Rosemarie Grainer
CLVCS - Little Valley Elementary School
rgrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
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From: spann <spann@students.uiuc.edu>
To: Beverly Bixler <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>,
pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Are Snorks related to Smurfs?
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Good day everyone!
Some of you might be familiar with these cartoon series, and have some idea
of
what the relationship may or may NOT be between the Snorks and the Smurfs.
I received this question from a patron at the library and have researched
some
cartoon databases. What I would like to first find is if these series
are
produced by the SAME company (e.g., Hanna-Barbera, etc.) and then, if so,
who
are the contacts to ask about the relationship.
The patron thinks it's obvious that these characters are not related since
their sociological communities are different. I would contend that
that
does
not necessarily mean the characters are not related somehow.
Nonetheless,
we
need some kind of proof.
Many of you are on the pulse of the cartoon world; so I appreciate any
feedback you can provide this week.
Thank you!
Julia Spann
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From: Sandy Belfi <sbelfi@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Craft Question
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Hi All:
Does anyone know where I can purchase white paper lunch bags? I have
checked our craft stores, but to no avail.
Thanks
Sandy belfi
--
Sandy Belfi
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion, NE 68046
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From: Elizabeth A Fernandez <efad@juno.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: National Children's Book Week
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:21:49 CDT
Can you explain what the YOung friends of the library is - do they pay
dues? what is their role in the community?
Thanks,
Elizabeth
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:52:49 CDT lrogers@sdln.net
writes:
>We are doing a Mystery Afternooon for 3rd-5th grade using a Double Dog
>Mystery
>and the Young Friends of the Library (6th-12th graders). We will
have
>a
>Doughnuts with Dad PreSchool and probably younger) evening storytime.
>Our
>special event we hope will be Charlie Williams, the Noise Guy, on
>Saturday
>for
>a Grande Finale!! During the week we will have a "Guess the number
of
>gummy
>bears in the jar" Contest. Prizes will be the Travelin/ Bears we
used
>in our
>Summer Reading Prpgram.
>
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From: Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Web page design
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:22:41 CDT
For those of you who design a web page:
What are you favorite sources for desktop themes,
icons, and ideas.
Thanks,
Christina Johnson
Lebanon Pub. Lib.
Lebanon IN
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From: "Jackie Marquardt" <jmarquar@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Three Little Pigs
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:23:14 CDT
I have to disagree with those who say we shouldn't change the story to
fit our needs.
The Three Little Pigs is a folktale, from an oral tradition. The
wonderful thing about the oral tradition is that it is fluid, and the
details changed from teller to teller.
Just because we've started printing some of those versions doesn't mean
we can't have many different variations.
Folklore belongs to folk, and that's us!
Jackie
Youth Services Librarian I
Olympia Timberland Library
jmarquar@timberland.lib.wa.us
> Then just dont read it!!!
> I dont mean to <flame> anyone, but it burns me when adults who
> should know
> better, want to change traditional literature. OK for parodies,
> etc. but if
> a story is upsetting to a child of a certain age, wait until the
> child is
> ready for the story. DONT make the story fit the child!
> I blame a great deal of this on Disney, but it is not completely his
> fault. Even Disney is shown to children who are too young and are
> upset by
> witches, scary scenes, etc. This does not mean we should change
> the movie
> and make it easier yet. Disney films were intended for children
> about 8 yrs
> and up. They were for those children who could go to the movies on
> Saturdayand sit through 2-3 hours alone. It is not Disney's fault
> that parents of
> today equate Disney with cuddly stuff.
> We loose so much when the pigs who behave stupidly survive; when
> the evil
> stepmother does not dance to her death in red-hot shoes made of
> iron at Snow
> White's wedding, when Chicken Licken survives to reach the King,
> and on and
> on.
>
> previous message:
> A pre-K teacher came in asking for a version of The
> Three Little Pigs that is as close as possible to the
> original (i.e. no major variations, additional
> details, or parodies, etc.) but doesn't have the wolf
> eating the first two pigs. David McPhail wrote a nice
> one a few years back, but it seems to be out of print.
> I was hoping someone might be able to recommend
> another well-written version. In the pig tales <grin>
> by Galdone, Marshall, Ziefert, and others, only the
> third pig survives, and the teacher is worried that
> some of the children might be a little disturbed by
> that.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> =====
> Rebecca Smith, recent MLS grad
> read2yourbunny@yahoo.com
>
> "It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are,
> far more than our abilities."
> --Albus Dumbledore ( J.K. Rowling)
>
>
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From: Jill Hinn <jhinn@amber2.jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: library sleepovers
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Hi all!
We are plannning to have a sleepover in the library sometime in Februrary.
The two of us that are planning the event have never done one before and so
would like some advice from those of you that are experienced! Our
theme is
going to be indoor camping and so we plan on telling some (slightly scary)
stories around a psuedo-campfire. And we will do some type of craft
and
will eat s'mores. What we were wondering about is what you think is a
good
age for this? We were originally thinking 4th to 6th grade, but then
wondered if they would think they were "too cool" to spend the
night in the
library. We also had a question about the number of parents per
children.
What is a good number? We don't want to have too many or not enough
adults.
I would appreciate any advice on the matter and any ideas for interesting
things to do during the evening! Please reply to me off-list and I
will
compile all the answers.
Thanks in advance!
Jill Hinn
Belmar Children's Library
Jefferson County, CO
jhinn@jefferson.lib.co.us
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From: Laurie Magee <magee@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Favorite Reference Tools for Kids (fwd)
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:24:20 CDT
The ad just came for the new edition from Bowker-Greenwood. 2001,
0-313-32069-1. $75.00 Laurie
--
Laurie Magee
Head of Children and Family Outreach Services
Oshkosh Public Library
106 Washington Avenue
Oshkosh WI 54901
920-236-5207 Fax 920-236-5228
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From: Kim <kok@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Halloween Complaint
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:24:55 CDT
Hi Everyone,
Recently, our children's department has received a few complaints
regarding Halloween. One dealt with decorations--the patron believed
we
should not have any Halloween decorations in the library. The other
dealt with storytimes--she thought we should not have storytimes that
were Halloween-based.
Has anyone received these types of complaints before? I would really
appreciate some advice about this subject.
Thank you!
Kim Olson-Kopp
La Crosse Public Library
La Crosse, Wisconsin
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From: "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Appropriate touching
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:25:28 CDT
Although I am generally a hugger, I try to always let the child initiate =
any touching done. If the kids really want to give me a hug, I welcome
it =
readily, especially if the parent is there, too. This has not been
easy =
for me, but I have become so accustomed (at work, anyway) to NOT touching/h=
ugging kids that when one initiates the contact, I am often taken by =
surprise! In truth, it makes the hug all that much better.
I just try =
to make sure I am approachable by the kids and let them take the lead.=20
One exception: If a child is endangering himself and/or equipment =
(standing on a chair and banging on a computer key board, for example), I =
will head that direction and lift the child from the situation and gently =
place him on the ground. If I'm lucky, the parent has come to
investigate =
by this time. I don't like to think about how often a parent is not =
forthcoming (to reprimand the child or me--take your pick!).
At the end of Toddler Time, I do have a puppet that gives the children =
"kisses," and many children hug the puppet. Some shy away
even from that, =
and I try to remember which don't like the contact (not very successfully, =
alas!).
Beverly Kirkendall
Library Manager--Youth Services
Hurst Public Library
Hurst, TX
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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Appropriate touching
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:26:06 CDT
Linda - the first thing that comes to my mind is this: if you have to ask
then there is probably something wrong. As far as touching goes, a hand on a
parents back when they are in the way, a high five for a child, a touch on
the head or even a hug (which, indidentally, I can recall doing only a
handful of times in the past two years, despit how much I gush affection
verbally) are all benign, but hugging parents seems a little odd. The only
time I embraced an adult here was when they confided in me they had been
suffering from cancer and she bagan to cry. I have never put my arm around a
parent or wanted to hug them at any other time, and I am not a staunchy
woman. As for the gender - I think it matters not in degree of contact
allowed - woman should not be "touchy feely" either - I think that
term is
weird and just hearing it makes me uncomfortable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Goff" <lgoff@lakeline.lib.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:50 PM
Subject: Appropriate touching
>
> Dear Group Minds,
> As children's librarians in a public library
setting, how much can
> we touch our patrons and still be appropriate? In
storytimes, can we
> hug the children, put a hand on their backs, hold their hands, and let
> them sit in our laps. Can we put an arm around a parent or even hug
> them?
> What if we're talking about a male
children's librarian? Can he be
> "touchy feely" with the kids and parents or is that a
definite no-no? I
> could really use your group advice on this topic.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Linda Goff
> Youth Services Coordinator
> Lake County Library System
> Tavares, FL
>
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From: "Gwendolyn Haley" <ghaley@kcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:26:39 CDT
I have followed this discussion with some interest, as a fairly new
librarian. While a student in library school, I would have heartily
agreed
with Mr. Minkel--that it's just not happening, as I had not encountered many
individuals viewing pornography in any of my previous library work
experiences. Boy have my eyes been opened! I started my current
post in
May of this year, and was amazed at the amount of very graphic, hard-core
pornography that I have been personally exposed to in the last 6 months.
While I understand and agree that filters are not very effective, nor
desireable in most cases, I confess that I am stymied by this problem.
We
have many individuals, both teens (especially teens!)and adults viewing
pornography on a daily basis. This has not abated with the
installation of
our new time-out software that limits patrons to two sessions of interent
time per day. We ask patrons to use privacy screens if another patron
objects to their viewing material, and many patrons just automatically ask
for them. I have one patron, a teen, who routinely skips school and
then
spends his morning here at our library viewing pornography.
The major problem I have with this use of our computers is that
often the
porn-sites "seize" the computer, resetting the homepage from our
library
system to the porn site. On more than one occasion, I have led a
patron to
a computer, helped them log on to the interent with their library card, only
to be confronted by a very close-up image of oral sex or some other image.
To say that this is upsetting to both the patron and myself would be a huge
understatement. On one occasion, it was two 10 year old boys that got
a
real eyeful. I went home in tears and was ready to quit after that
incident--because I felt like I had just robbed them of some of their
innocence. We have come up with a fix that automatically resets the
homepage, not always, but most of the time. However, this issue has
become
a major one at our library, and very upsetting to some of the staff,
particularly those of us that must reset the page and then explain to an
angry patron why they or their child were just treated to such images.
I
should mention that we have 4 computers in the children's area, all of which
are filtered and therefore will not allow access to email, chat, and many
other useful internet sites--the other 20+ are unfiltered.
I am curious as to what kind of internet use policies/software/technology
(and how do you enforce a use policy without hovering over each and every
user?) other libraries have used to turn their library back into a library
from an adult bookstore/video lounge. I am, quite honestly, sick to
death
of having to deal with this stuff.
Just my own thoughts,
G. Haley
Children's Librarian
King County Library System
ghaley@kcls.org
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From: Adela Peskorz <peskorza@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: holocaust bib
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:27:09 CDT
I can think of some great titles off the top of my head, but a better route
might be the following website, a great list created by a YA librarian Karen
Simonetti:
Do You Know? Will You Remember? Books and Websites About the Holocaust for
Young Adults: http://www.euronet.nl/users/jubo/holocaust.html
Hope this helps!
Adela Peskorz
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From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
To: tagad-l@topica.com, PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen surveys to share?
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:27:43 CDT
Message being sent to multiple lists. Please excuse the duplication.
Our medium-sized library (Main and 2 branches) is preparing a teen surv=
ey
and planning teen focus groups. The main information we hope to
collec=
t is
how our library's currently used by teens, what we can do to attract mo=
re
teen users, and how we can better serve teens already using our library=
.
We're particularly interested in surveys gauging teen area layout and s=
pace
preferences, teen programming preferences, and teen collection preferen=
ces
and use. Additionally, we'd like to measure how teens use adult
collections and areas of the library.
We're aware of professional materials that address issues of surveying
teens (Patrick Jones, etc.), but we'd like to hear from libraries that =
have
completed teen surveys and focus groups so we can get a
"hands-on" approach.
Have you surveyed teens and would you be willing to share your survey
instrument with us? Have you used teen focus groups and can you share
=
your
experience and advice about such groups with us?
We're curious about methods of surveying used. What formats did you
us=
e?
What worked and what
didn't? Was a web page survey more effective than a paper survey?
Did=
you
involve schools? How long did you conduct your survey? Were the
resul=
ts
useful? How large were your focus groups? What trends were
revealed? =
Any
other comments about a project like this?
Anyone with survey or other information they can generously share, plea=
se
directly email Diane Tuccillo, Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator, at
Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
or call 480-644-2735.
Thanks in advance,
Sandy Rizzo, Business Reference Librarian
Mesa Public Library
64 E. Main Street,
Mesa, AZ=
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