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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 588
PUBYAC Digest 588
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Halloween Complaint
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
2) Re: 3 little pigs
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
3) Re: Budget survey for MLS school-please help!
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
4) Long list of Family Night ideas
by Frannie Savel <savelf@yahoo.com>
5) RE:storytimes and siblings
by Frannie Savel <savelf@yahoo.com>
6) RE: Halloween complaint
by Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com>
7) Re: Halloween Complaint
by Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com>
8) Re: Good current books on countries of the world
by RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
9) Re: [Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT]
by David Mignerey <d.mignerey@lanepl.org>
10) Re: HALLOWEEN DOOR HANGER
by dearin@noblenet.org
11) RE: Halloween Complaint
by Sue Ridnour <SRidnour@flower-mound.com>
12) Gov. Docs for Kids
by Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
13) White paper bags
by Ann Secter <rnsecter@lilrc.org>
14) Subliminal?? Little Critters Construction
by Barbara Tack <tackba@oplin.lib.oh.us>
15) RE:Halloween complaints
by "jannis mindel" <jamindel@rcnchicago.com>
16) Re: Craft Question
by Diana Hollingsworth <dhollingsworth@htls.lib.il.us>
17) Halloween costume ideas needed
by Teresa Salatino <teresas@wccls.lib.or.us>
18) Re:Story Hour Kits for Distribution
by "Elizabeth Lai" <elai@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
19) Re: Halloween Complaint
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
20) Re: Halloween Complaint
by HFL_LISA@stls.org
21) Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
by Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
22) RE: Craft Question
by Teresa Pierce <tpierce@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
23) Re: People Counters
by Marilyn Nykiforuk <confidence_gives_strength@yahoo.com>
24) Resetting Computers to a pre-set configuration
by Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Halloween Complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:20:12 CDT
Hi Kim...I was just going to send this to you directly
but I decided to be brave and send it to the whole
list...
It seems to me that Halloween is a cultural holiday.
We don't have many holidays in this country that are
more or less "American", so I think we should
celebrate it.
You can always use the more "benign"
decorations--pumkins, bats, etc.--and stay away from
witches and ghosts. You can do storytime that way too.
We usually do a cats & bats theme around Halloween
that is lots of fun. Stay away from scary stories but
stick with the theme. If you want to do a witches
program (I used to work with someone who loved doing a
witch program every year, she even dressed up as a
witch for storytime) just give the kids and parents
ample "warning" with flyers and announcements that you
plan on doing it so they can either talk to their kids
about it or decide not to come that week.
We are a public facility but we can't be so sterile
and PC that we lose the fun of celebrating our
cultural. I find most Thanksgiving fingerplays
offensive because I'm vegetarian and I don't like
rhymes about wacking off turkey heads. But I still do
them. Would this same person complain to department
store directors when they decorate for the holidays?
Probably not, so why are we expected to behave
differently?
Maybe this is just me reacting to my fundamentalist
parents' denying me the fun of Halloween, Santa Claus
and sugar cereal--Now that I can do my own grocery
shopping, I finish off a box of Coco Pebbles at least
every other week. Sadly I missed out on the years when
they had cool prizes in the boxes--but I can take that
up with my shrink. I say be courteous and
compassionate but don't water down your program so
much that you can't have fun with it.
Jennifer Baker
Fresno Co. Library
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: 3 little pigs
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:20:37 CDT
This just reminded me of something we used to do at my
old library...
When we purchased a fairy tale that had been adapted
it went into the Easys. If it was a (more or less)
traditional telling of the tale we put it in the 398s.
On another note, I did buy the Disney versions of
things because parents and children often asked for
them. When a child comes up and asks me for the Little
Mermaid I always ask if they mean Ariel or just a
mermaid story. Usually the answer is Ariel but you
never know. If that's what the child wants, who am I
to judge?
I think not buying something that is popular just
because we, the almighty trained, skilled and educated
librarians, don't think it's appropriate "literature"
is censorship. Sadly although I "moved up the ladder"
when I took my new job a year ago, I also moved into a
larger system and gave up some of the control over my
collection I had working in a smaller library. Here I
am not allowed to buy Franklin and getting Clifford on
the shelf was a major coup. And sadly, if the child
means Ariel, I can't help them because we don't have
it.
Thanks for the rant opportuntity.
Jennifer Baker
Fresno Co. Library
--- Mary Ann Gilpatrick
<magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
wrote:
> If your library buys adapted fairy tales, then you
> provide them when asked.
> If
> your selection policy is not to buy greatly
> simplified versions, they are
> not
> there to provide..
>
> I do not buy or add Disney versions of classic fairy
> tales, as the children
> would never, ever, read the many beautiful versions
> of these stories we
> have.
> The Disney Version is in the video collection, where
> it belongs.
>
> Mary Ann Gilpatrick
>
>
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Budget survey for MLS school-please help!
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:21:00 CDT
what do you consider part of SR budget? Just
programming? Prizes? Printing of flyers, logs, etc.?
Also do you want to include money that is donated or
from Friends groups or just money that is provided by
your organization? If you want to include it all, do
you also want to put a value on other items donated
like prizes or free TV/radio spots?
I personally think it's very important to put a TRUE
value on SRP. Many administrators don't have a clue
what goes into putting on a good program or how much
work we put into finding outside support. If we say we
do it with $1000 but we received $5000 worth of prizes
and $2000 worth of free advertising and we didn't
include the amount we spent on flyers, etc., we aren't
giving a true picture of what we do, how much it's
worth or how hard it is.
At the library I used to work at our organization
didn't provide ANY budget for SR programming. What we
had came from State partner organizations, Friends and
local donations. It always irked me that our City got
to take credit for such a fantastic program when they
did nothing to support it other than pay my salary and
printing costs for flyers.
Jennifer Baker
Fresno Co. Library
--- Jennifer Fay <j_fay84103@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I'm doing a project for my MLS degree which
> includes making a summer
> reading program. My library spends over $1000 (we
> serve a population of
> 35,000) on SR, but my partner's library spends $225
> (she serves 12,000).
> Obviously we need some help finding an average!
> Please tell me your budget
> for summer reading and the size of your population,
> and feel free to send it
> to mypersonal address so we don't clog up the
> listserv. Thanks!
>
>
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From: Frannie Savel <savelf@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Long list of Family Night ideas
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:21:18 CDT
Hello Everyone,
Thank you to those of you that gave me great ideas
for Family Night, a storytime for the entire family.
Sorry it took me so long. I pasted them in, because
some had some many great details, you won't want to
miss. Here they are:
The programs that we have done are a movie night
with
short films of children's books such as Curious George
that we order from our state library; craft night with
2 crafts, one simple and the other a little more
complicated that the parents can help with; holiday
celebrations with books, finger plays, songs, and a
short simple puppet show; pajama story time where the
kids are invited to wear their pj's. These have
worked the best for us. We have Family Fun Night only
once a month because we have a very small staff.
Please post any good ideas you receive. I have found
the families seem to really enjoy coming to the
programs together. -- Rachel Pirkel
As the kick-off to our summer bedtime storytime series
last summer, I tried a Family Storytelling night, and
it was so fun I plan to
do it annually. We get all ages at bedtime storytime,
but mostly 3 to 8 year-olds, and for the Family
Storytelling night, I asked
parents and grandparents to stay (there were many
grandparents!)
First I read Tomie de Paola's The Baby Sister and
book-talked the 26 Fairmont Ave books as a form of
memoir. Then I told a
story my parents used to tell me about my childhood
(an embarrassing one). Then I asked the family groups
to take about ten
minutes to tell each other stories from their own
childhoods or their kids' early years ( I gave them
the story starter of "most
embarrassing moment")
Then they worked on some crafts as a family. They
used paint stir sticks and scraps of yarn and fabric
and markers to make
stick puppets of each family member (wide wood craft
sticks work too). I was lucky enough to have a large
supply of cigar boxes
and each family decorated one using magazines and
collage stuff, and this became their story box. I
handed out a list of story
starters or topics and the adults cut them apart and
put them in the box. Then they could start a family
tradition of picking from
the box and sharing their family stories.
I also had available lists of interview questions
for kids to use with Grandparents, and family trees to
fill in and color. Our
program ran an hour, but you could shorten it.
Just off the top of my head, some good "share
together" stories:
For Little Guys:
Guess How Much I Love You (McBratney)
Why Do You Love Me (Baynton)
Hug (Alborough)
For older kids:
I Love You, Stinky Face (and sequels)(McCourt)
Tell Me Something Happy Before I Go to Sleep (Dunbar)
Pete's a Pizza (Steig)
10 Minutes Til Bedtime (Rathman)
Tuesday (Weisner)
Something from Nothing (Gilman)
(these last three have great illustrations to pour
over) ---Elizabeth Murphy
When I did a family storytime program I included
songs/fingerplays,
stories--one of which was a flannelboard or puppet
story--and a short,
literature-based video (like the ones Weston Woods
produces).
Everything
revolved around a theme, so it was easy to display
related books for
participants to look at. I usually had a variety of
materials ready to
present and then decided what to actually use when I
saw the ages of
those attending. --- Ann More
We have a family night at our library. We pick a
theme each week then
read
some stories and after have a small craft. --- Stacy
Barron.
I haven't had a family time as a public librarian, but
in my previous
life
as a school librarian, we held a family night at our
school for
students in
K-1 and their families.
We had considerably more time than you do (@90 minutes
- 6:30 - 8:00
p.m.).
We had the kids come in their pajamas with sleeping
bags, stuffed
animals,
pillows, slippers, etc. We offered milk and cookies
and had guest
readers
every half hour (guest readers included me, our
principal, and a
policeman
who was the father of one of our students. He came in
uniform and read
Officer Buckle and Gloria.) In between the guest
readers, parents were
to
read to their children.
I set out lots of books for parents to choose from and
kept the milk
and
cookies in one area of the gym so as to minimize
damage to floor and
books.
Everyone had a great time. It was the best event for
the littlest
effort and
was just wonderful PR!--- Jane Smith
There is a very good book of activities, books, poems,
and songs, etc. for family storytime called Family
Storytime:
Twenty-Four Creative Programs for All Ages by Rob
Reid. ---Susan Ungham
We have
three books with songs and fingerplays interspersed
for 25-30 minutes
of fun. The last book we use puppets to retell the
story or interact
with us and the book in some way. --- Stacy Irish
Enjoy!
Frannie Savel
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Frannie Savel
Youth Services Librarian
Cranberry Public Library
Cranberry Township, PA
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From: Frannie Savel <savelf@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE:storytimes and siblings
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:21:36 CDT
Dear Ally,
Only our Family Storytime are siblings allowed to
come. Actually the whole family comes. I also have
an Infant Storytime 0-23 months, Two-year-old
Storytime, and Daytime Storytime (3-5). The
caregivers stay with the infants and two year olds.
Daytime kids do not have the parents with them. Only
the children that are the specific ages can come. No
older or younger siblings. That's why we have the
Family Storytime. Do I have problems? Only when I
first began. The worst was a women had her son call
me a "Mean Lady". We have the policy in our flyers
and signs. When I make the annoucement that a
storytime is about to begin I mention only the
specific age group.
Good luck,
Frannie
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Frannie Savel
Youth Services Librarian
Cranberry Public Library
Cranberry Township, PA
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From: Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Halloween complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:22:01 CDT
Thank YOU VERY MUCH Susan Dailey, I agree whole
heartedly. Sharing in the joy of holidays celebrated
by the MAJORITY of our public should not be a
stressful issue for staff nor should we disappoint the
average child because --one-- somewhere-- might not
feel comfortable. If we do not celebrate their issue
because we are celebrating a COMMON holiday or event
in our country, we have nothing to apologize for. I
truly feel that we should welcome with open arms those
people who sincerely wish to come to America to make a
better life for themselves and their children. But at
the same time remembering that they came here because
of what was better, we should not try to make them
feel at home by covering up WHAT IS America so as not
to hurt their feelings and trying to make America like
their homeland. If they want to live there and do
things that way...let them go back.
Libraries and librarians should provide information
about all cultures to all cultures. But storyhour is
not about validating some multicultural parents method
of raising their child, but of stimulating the use and
joy of books and information at the library. == COMMON
holidays to the majority in America are not villans
here. Attitudes of those who do not want to offend
one but do not care if the offend the majority are the
big problem. It is really time that the SILENT
MAJORITY SPOKE UP. This country was FOUNDED BY
people WHO BELIEVED IN GOD. From the Declaration of
Independence and on to the National Anthem and the
money we spend...GOD is recognized as the preminent
DIETY OF THIS NATION, FOUNDED "UNDER GOD". Those who
were not born here KNEW THAT WHEN THEY CAME. We
should not have to change our lives and our sacred
honor to suit them.
The Founding Fathers were CHRISTIANS who did not want
a law making one denomination of Christians superior
to another. But anyone who reads the biographies
available in our public libraries would be able to
understand that the first amendment was not about who
is God or is he the right one, but that laws should
not prevent me OR YOU from worshipping Him in OUR OWN
chosen manner. The First Amendment does not say that
I cannot worship him in public or that an elected
official cannot. It says that laws may not
'ESTABLISH" only one religion and not allow others to
be practiced.
Celebrating Christmas, Halloween or any other holiday
at the library does not PREVENT any one from
celebrating their own. It only provides information
and celebration IF THEY CHOOSE TO COME. Some people
do not come to storyhour when it rains, but that does
not mean that we should not have it on rainy days
because some will not come. To others that is the
best day to have something special to do. WE SERVE
THOSE WHO COME IN TO THE LIBRARY. That does not mean
to say that we should not encourage the others to
come. We should encourage them to come but not dump a
group of patrons we already have to secure a possible
one we have not met yet. And ultimately, as with each
facet of library work in this huge WONDERFUL COUNTRY
of ours, our own community standards prevail over the
national fad at the time whatever it is because that
is the COMMUNITY WE SERVE.
"And Yes these views are my own and do not reflect
those of the Library Board or Staff"
DONNA SLATON, CHILDRENS LIBRARIAN
MUHLENBERG CO. PUBLIC LIBRARIES
CENTRAL CITY, KY 42330
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From: Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Halloween Complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:22:23 CDT
HOW MANY DID NOT COMPLAIN, AND WHY WAS ONE COMPLAINT
ENOUGH TO CHANGE WHAT THEY GET FROM THE LIBRARY?
Donna Slaton, Children's Librarian
Muhlenberg Co. Public Libraries
Central City, KY 42330
--- Barbara Osborn <bosborn@triton.net>
wrote:
> Yes, had one complaint. Decided to do Halloween
> stories only during the
> week of Halloween and announced other storytime
> themes for the month of Oct.
> to the parents. Now they can come or not come with
> foreknowledge.
> Barbara G. Osborn, Children's Librarian
> Allegan (MI) Public Library
> bosborn@triton.net
> (616) 673-4625
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kim" <kok@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>
> To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:24 AM
> Subject: Halloween Complaint
>
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Recently, our children's department has received a
> few complaints
> > regarding Halloween. One dealt with
> decorations--the patron believed we
> > should not have any Halloween decorations in the
> library. The other
> > dealt with storytimes--she thought we should not
> have storytimes that
> > were Halloween-based.
> >
> > Has anyone received these types of complaints
> before? I would really
> > appreciate some advice about this subject.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Kim Olson-Kopp
> > La Crosse Public Library
> > La Crosse, Wisconsin
> >
> >
>
=====
Donna Slaton
Children's Programmer II
Muhlenberg Co. Public Libraries
Central City Public Library
108 E. Broad St.
Central City, KY 42330
misspockets3@yahoo.com
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From: RGrainer@cattlv.wnyric.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Good current books on countries of the world
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:22:45 CDT
Mary,
Thanks for the suggestion to get company reps to
bring examples to
us. I think that I will get those countries that my teachers say that
they teach (in the most current edition possible). Then I will look
over
the different books and see which series I would prefer to get more books
from when I add more to the collection. I will see about getting in
touch with the company reps in the area, too, but we are very much out of
the way (plus I don't have a phone to use in the library), so this may be
a more difficult task than it would seem.
Thanks again and have a great day.
Rosemarie Grainer
Little Valley Elementary Campus
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From: David Mignerey <d.mignerey@lanepl.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: [Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT]
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:23:08 CDT
Greetings,
Do you have a "patron behavior" code. There are probably local
statutes t=
hat
can be enforced. I say utilize the law and throw the book at them.
"Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
wrote:
> Not only have we had problems with people looking at pornography,
sites=
> producing multiple windows that open several more when you close one
an=
d
> erasing homepage settings, but we have also had more than one
complaint=
> about people masturbating while doing it. In fact, I actually had to
pu=
t a
> no trespassing on a young male recently after he was caught
masturbatin=
g
> (after being warned several times about patron complaints) at the
compu=
ter.
> I think it is a problem that we do encounter and that privacy screens
a=
nd
> filters do not solve anything. It is disturbing for the library staff
a=
nd
> for patrons. Sadly enough, it is even more disturbing to have to wait
a=
nd
> "catch someone in the act." I don't have any solutions, but
since you a=
sked
> how often we encounter a problem - all the time.
> =
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From: dearin@noblenet.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: HALLOWEEN DOOR HANGER
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Thanks to Elaine Morgan from Portland, Oregon for the directions to
the Halloween hanger. And the others for their suggestions. Elaine
sent me the original post!!! We are going to do this craft on
Saturday and if it is totally successful we will be adapting it to
other 'quick' crafts for different months of the year.
Once again a great big THANKS....you guys on the
listserv are
GREAT!!!
JoAnne
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:31:39 CDT JoAnne Dearin wrote:
> Hi
> A while back there was a suggestion on a
Halloween Craft that
> you
> color cut out Halloween shapes and glue them to yarn to make a
> door
> hanger. THe person who posted the craft said it was easy and very
> popular
> with the kids. WELL I am hoping to do the craft next Saturday
> (Oct
> 27) and have done all the cut outs on the Ellison
> machine....printed out
> the craft (then deleted it from my e-mail) and gave the directions
> to my
> assistant as she will be working that Saturday. In the meantime
> she lost
> the directions. If anyone out there has saved them and could
> forward them
> to me I would appreciate it or if the original poster can repost I
> would
> be most appreciative. I have an idea of what should be done, but
> would
> like the reassurance.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> JoAnne
>
> --
> JoAnne Dearin, Children's Librarian
> Peabody Institute Library, Danvers Massachusetts
> dearin@noblenet.org
> North of Boston Library Exchange
North of Boston Library Exchange (NOBLE)
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From: Sue Ridnour <SRidnour@flower-mound.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Halloween Complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:23:50 CDT
I was a little surprised to see Halloween characterized as a Christian
holiday; for an excellent overview of its origins, check out the History
Channel's website:
http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/halloween/index.html
Although I believe this thread start out discussing holiday programs, I have
especially appreciated reading the comments on decorating and displays.
We
always hear that merchandising techniques help circulate books, but it is a
challenge sometimes to come up with something that won't offend or exclude
anyone. I don't think anyone has yet suggested that if holiday
displays are
a problem in your community, you can always stick to the four seasons!
Sue
Sue Ridnour
Youth Services Manager
Flower Mound Public Library
Flower Mound, TX
972.874.6153
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeri Kladder [SMTP:jkladder@gcfn.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 12:22 PM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: Halloween Complaint
>
<To non-Christians--that's Jewish and Muslim patrons--Halloween
> is a Christian holiday based on Christian beliefs just as Christmas and
> Santa Claus and Easter and Easter bunnies are Christian.>
>
>
>
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From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Gov. Docs for Kids
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:24:09 CDT
Can anyone recommend their favorite websites for government information
for children of all ages?
Thank you
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org
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From: Ann Secter <rnsecter@lilrc.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: White paper bags
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:24:30 CDT
White paper bags are available from ABC School Supply @ 11.55 per
hundred. Their telephone number is 1-800-669-4222.
Ann Secter
Bryant Library
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From: Barbara Tack <tackba@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Subliminal?? Little Critters Construction
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:24:53 CDT
Oh collective brain,
I apologize if this question was already asked.
A patron called in saying that a gun appears in the tool bucket on page
5 of Little Critters Construction, by Mercer Mayer. She claims to have
recalled a while back that the picture was intended to be a joke and not
appear in the book. She did say that some books were printed with the
gun anyway. I did review the book and a gun does appear in the bucket.
Does anyone out there know if the gun is supposed to be there or is this
patrons claim true? The book is copy righted with a 1987 and 1998
copyright date, and little boys do play with toy guns so it is very
possible that the gun is just one of the little critters toys.
I am trying to gather information so I can inform my staff and any other
patrons if this concern comes up again.
You can answer to the list or to me personally if you wish.
My e-mail address is
tackba@oplin.lib.oh.us
TIA
Barbara Tack
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From: "jannis mindel" <jamindel@rcnchicago.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE:Halloween complaints
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I work in an extremely diverse neighborhood in Chicago. We put up Halloween
decorations every year and as far as I know have not received a complaint
yet. If we did, I would respect that. I'm Jewish and have never had a
problem with the holiday of Halloween as I do not perceive it as a Christian
holiday, anymore. It's around Christmas that the problem arises. I have been
in public libraries, my own included, where Christmas decorations go up
without any other holidays being represented. I'm not sure what the answer
is. Including everyone or nothing at all. I've always felt slightly left out
around the Christmas holidays wherever I've worked. At Christmas time we try
and make our story times and holiday programs center around everyone in the
neighborhood.
Jannis Mindel
Edgewater Branch
Chicago Public Library
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From: Diana Hollingsworth <dhollingsworth@htls.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Craft Question
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:25:38 CDT
Sandy,
If you have a local Sam's Club (connected to Wal-Mart) or any other type
of bulk purchasing store you would probably find white lunch bags there.
I've purchased them from Sam's and they weren't too expensive. Hope
this
helps.
Diana
Sandy Belfi wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Does anyone know where I can purchase white paper lunch bags? I
have
> checked our craft stores, but to no avail.
>
> Thanks
> Sandy belfi
>
> --
> Sandy Belfi
> Sump Memorial Library
> Papillion, NE 68046
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From: Teresa Salatino <teresas@wccls.lib.or.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Halloween costume ideas needed
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:25:59 CDT
Dear All:
Last year, I believe, someone posted a great listing of halloween costume
ideas relating to storybook characters. If that person is still on
this
listserv, or if someone else has it, could you please send it to me or post
it again? I am in desperate need of some inspiration!
Thanks so much,
Teresa
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Teresa Salatino, Youth Services Librarian
teresas@wccls.lib.or.us
Cedar Mill Community Library
12505 NW Cornell Road
Portland, OR 97229
(503) 644-0043
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From: "Elizabeth Lai" <elai@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re:Story Hour Kits for Distribution
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:26:23 CDT
Suggest you contact "Storysacks" www.storysacks.nald.ca.
I don't know who =
is the US rep but there is an office in Montreal contact Frances (514) =
332-6736 email frsdg@cgocable.ca=20
Good Luck
>>> b_beckett@hotmail.com
10/19/01 01:14am >>>
Hello
I have enjoyed reading all your comments over the last year.
This is my first request for help.
Our library system would like to put together Story Hour Kits for ages 3-5
to loan out to the public and organizations such as nursery schools and
outreach programs. Each kit would include books and instruction
booklet
with: songs and fingerplays, activity and craft ideas. Has anyone
tried
doing anything similar? I would appreciate any suggestions you could =
offer.
Some questions I have are: How was the program promoted, what was included
in the kits, and who did you loan them to?
Thank You
Barbara Beckett
Children's Services
Lambton County Library
Wyoming, Ontario
e-mail b_beckett@hotmail.com=20
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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Halloween Complaint
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:26:44 CDT
You say you have not had any problems by publicizing in advance..yey you
also say because of the complaints of a few parents you stopped doing
holiday programs, birthdays etc. I incorporte Hanakuah, Kwwanza and
CHristmas into our Holiday party. Should one not wish to celebrate
any of these particular things then they are free to chose NOT to
attend. Just as I am free not to read the romance novels we have,
the hunting books, or the the Lehay Arrmageddon is on it's way books
that we have. During the fall I have had a trivia program, back
to school, autumn, poetry and a pizza program. I will also be having
a Halloween Haunt and a Halloween storytime. If you do not eat pizza,
play trivia, like poetry or celebrate Halloween feel free to not
attend any program. But for one to dictate the offerings for many
seems censorship of the worse kind to me. And where do you draw
the line?
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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Halloween Complaint
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:27:05 CDT
Wow...you seem to take this very personally COnnie. Has it ever
occurred
to you that CHristmas decorations are not a reminder about it not being
a particular groups time. It is rather a celebration of a large groups
of
peoples culture. Not just religion. If you are traveling in a
country
that is celebrating Ramadan they are NOT telling you that you are unwelcome
because your're not a Muslim. It is simply part of the culture.
When I
lived in NYC I never felt left at Passover or Hanukah. It was
wonderful
my friends were celebrating..and chose to include me at times. It is
not
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From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org, ghaley@kcls.org
Subject: Re: INTERNET FILTERS: A PUBLIC POLICY REPORT
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:27:32 CDT
Dear Gwendolyn,
Since it sounds like this is a constant problem at your library, you
might want to consider using a program like DeepFreeze of your problic
machines. DeepFreeze resets the computer to a preset configuration each
time it is rebooted. It takes a bit of configuring, but does really
simplify the problem of removing unwanted stuff that a user has
downloaded (accidentally or on purpose).
Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System
nbclsref@sonic.net
All opinions in this message are my own, and do not represent those of
my employers.
Gwendolyn Haley wrote:
>
> I have followed this discussion with some interest, as a fairly new
> librarian. While a student in library school, I would have
heartily
agreed
> with Mr. Minkel--that it's just not happening, as I had not encountered
many
> individuals viewing pornography in any of my previous library work
> experiences. Boy have my eyes been opened! I started my
current post in
> May of this year, and was amazed at the amount of very graphic,
hard-core
> pornography that I have been personally exposed to in the last 6
months.
> While I understand and agree that filters are not very effective, nor
> desireable in most cases, I confess that I am stymied by this problem.
We
> have many individuals, both teens (especially teens!)and adults viewing
> pornography on a daily basis. This has not abated with the
installation
of
> our new time-out software that limits patrons to two sessions of
interent
> time per day. We ask patrons to use privacy screens if another
patron
> objects to their viewing material, and many patrons just automatically
ask
> for them. I have one patron, a teen, who routinely skips school
and then
> spends his morning here at our library viewing pornography.
> The major problem I have with this use of our
computers is that often
the
> porn-sites "seize" the computer, resetting the homepage from
our library
> system to the porn site. On more than one occasion, I have led a
patron
to
> a computer, helped them log on to the interent with their library card,
only
> to be confronted by a very close-up image of oral sex or some other
image.
> To say that this is upsetting to both the patron and myself would be a
huge
> understatement. On one occasion, it was two 10 year old boys that
got a
> real eyeful. I went home in tears and was ready to quit after
that
> incident--because I felt like I had just robbed them of some of their
> innocence. We have come up with a fix that automatically resets the
> homepage, not always, but most of the time. However, this issue
has
become
> a major one at our library, and very upsetting to some of the staff,
> particularly those of us that must reset the page and then explain to
an
> angry patron why they or their child were just treated to such images.
I
> should mention that we have 4 computers in the children's area, all of
which
> are filtered and therefore will not allow access to email, chat, and
many
> other useful internet sites--the other 20+ are unfiltered.
> I am curious as to what kind of internet use
policies/software/technology
> (and how do you enforce a use policy without hovering over each and
every
> user?) other libraries have used to turn their library back into a
library
> from an adult bookstore/video lounge. I am, quite honestly, sick
to death
> of having to deal with this stuff.
>
> Just my own thoughts,
> G. Haley
> Children's Librarian
> King County Library System
> ghaley@kcls.org
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From: Teresa Pierce <tpierce@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Craft Question
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:27:58 CDT
Hi, Sandy - I buy my white paper bags from our local, albeit, small-town
pharmacist! Don't know if this helps you or not, just my 2cents!
Teres
Pierce, Western District Library, Orion, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Belfi [SMTP:sbelfi@monarch.papillion.ne.us]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:18 AM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Craft Question
Hi All:
Does anyone know where I can purchase white paper lunch bags? I have
checked our craft stores, but to no avail.
Thanks
Sandy belfi
--
Sandy Belfi
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion, NE 68046
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From: Marilyn Nykiforuk <confidence_gives_strength@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: People Counters
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:28:23 CDT
Thanks.
This company seems to be the leader in this area.
--- Carol Chatfield <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
wrote:
> Ours came from Mark Walker Company. We have one on
> each entrance and
> have had no trouble with them since they were
> installed about 18 months
> ago.
> Hard statistics are wonderful when it comes budget
> time!
> Carol Chatfield
>
> --
> Carol Chatfield
> Youth Services Librarian
> Ilsley Public Library
> 75 Main Street
> Middlebury, VT 05753
> (802) 388-4369
> cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu
>
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From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Resetting Computers to a pre-set configuration
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:28:45 CDT
>David Mignerey wrote:
> Here is an idea. Each Library or system could establish a configuration
> benchmark for workstations that is reset every evening at closing.
At one library where I work, we are using a program named DeepFreeze
that automatically resets each computer to a pre-set configuration each
time it is rebooted. If you have each patron shut down or restart the
computer when they are through using it, anything they've downloaded
will simply go away and leave things clean for the next person.
The program takes a bit of configuration, but if set up and maintained
properly it can be much more efficient than dealing with constant
problems or hiring somebody to manually reset each machine every night.
Jean Hewlett
hewlett@usfca.edu
All opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employers.
David Mignerey wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I think that there is obviously a disproportionate fear of children and
teens
> viewing porn. However, I would be careful about trying to paint all
Christians
> and conservatives with a broad brush. Librarians seem to have a self
defeating
> attitude about many issues that tends to alienate moderate and even
liberal
> types. We paint ourselves into ideological corners.
>
> Here is an idea. Each Library or system could establish a configuration
> benchmark for workstations that is reset every evening at closing.
Perhaps
we
> could hire some enterprising or disadvantaged teens who would do this
work
to
> learn more about computers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave M
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