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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 590


    PUBYAC Digest 590

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Stumper:  Intelligent Hamster
by "Campbell, Dana" <Dana.Campbell@ci.corvallis.or.us>
  2) stumper: day of the dead
by "Nancy B." <nancyb@mt.net>
  3) Stumper
by David Mignerey <d.mignerey@lanepl.org>
  4) stumper
by Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
  5) Question from School Library Journal: Summer Reading
by "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
  6) Sno-Isle Regional Library Job Postings for the Week of October 23
by Valerie Worrell <VWorrell@sno-isle.org>
  7) RE: sotry hour kits for distribution
by Kathy Maio <kmaio@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
  8) RE: a Halloween Complaint
by "Carla Smith" <smithca1@metronet.lib.mi.us>
  9) Favorite Reference Resources: Compilation
by Janet Eckert <jcape52@yahoo.com>
 10) RE: Halloween complaint
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 11) Halloween objections
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 12) Re: Budget survey for MLS school-please help!
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 13) How do you select children's materials?
by Ashley Larsen <ashwynne@yahoo.com>
 14) RE: Halloween Complaint
by Beverly Bixler <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
 15) Teen Programming (Brief Survey)
by "Sarah Prielipp" <seprielipp@hotmail.com>
 16) Re: Subliminal?? Little Critters Construction
by Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
 17) Re: Halloween Complaint
by Paulalef@aol.com
 18) Re: Halloween complaint
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 19) Compilation-Big Kids Storytime Ideas
by Chris Burnett <cburnett@coralville.lib.ia.us>
 20) Junie B. Jones party...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
 21) RE: halloween crafts, games, ... (fwd)
by JoAnne Dearin <dearin@noblenet.org>
 22) Re: 3 little pigs
by Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
 23) RE: Halloween complaint
by Andrea Terry <cavgrads97@yahoo.com>
 24) Word Processing
by lrogers@sdln.net
 25) Re: stortytime name
by "Kathy Crawford" <kathy_crawford@hotmail.com>
 26) stumper: hands are not for hitting
by Rita Hunt Smith <RitaHuntSmith@DERRYTOWNSHIP.ORG>
 27) Stumper
by "Jennifer Lindsey" <jlindsey@libraryweb.org>
 28) Military titles for the young
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 29) Stumpers (2)
by Sue Jones <sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>

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From: "Campbell, Dana" <Dana.Campbell@ci.corvallis.or.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper:  Intelligent Hamster
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:40:11 CDT

I have a patron looking for a short story that was included in a grade 9
literature text.  All she can remember about the story is that the format of
the story is told in journal format in which a scientist reports about an
experiment he has done to make a hamster more intelligent.  He is so
successful the hamster becomes a genius.  Does this short story sound like
anything any of you might be familiar with?  I was wondering if it might be
an excerpt from a kid's book that someone might know.

Dana Campbell, Youth Services Librarian
Corvallis-Benton County Public Library
645 Monroe Ave.
Corvallis, OR  97330
541-766-6784
Fax:  541-766-6481

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From: "Nancy B." <nancyb@mt.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper: day of the dead
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:40:38 CDT

Oh Collective Brain,

A patron is looking for a story where a grandmother tells her =
granddaughter? about the meaning of Nov. 1st in Mexico, the Mexican =
version of All Saints' Day.  She thinks the book was published somewhat =
recently, and might be a picture book but she was not sure.  Does this =
ring a bell with anyone? =20

Thanks

Nancy Bostrom, Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library
Lewistown, Montana=20
nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org

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From: David Mignerey <d.mignerey@lanepl.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:41:02 CDT

Greetings,

There are several legends/tales of how a god or hero is caught in some re=
al
nasty trap but escapes by tricking some far more stupid god/hero into tak=
ing
his place. Can anyone recal the name of a participant in such a short sto=
ry or
book?


Thanks!

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From: Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: stumper
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:41:28 CDT

The following stumper came from one of our member libraries.  A patron
wants a book that was read to her in a college class within the last
several years - so the story may be new.  The patron called it an
inspirational children's story.  It's about a child who can't read.  Her
grandmother is trying to teach her to read, and the grandmother puts a drop
of honey on the pages of the book.  The grandmother says the honey is the
sweetness the child will know when she finally learns to read.  I have no
idea.  We have tried doing searches but I'm not even sure if it is a book.
The college professor is no longer teaching at the school so we can't ask
him.
Has anyone heard of anything like this?
**************************************
M. Marsha Parham
Flint River Regional Library
800 Memorial Dr.
Griffin, GA 30223
(770) 412-4770
(770) 412-4771 (fax)
parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us

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From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Question from School Library Journal: Summer Reading
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:17:41 CDT

Folks-- Hi from SLJ. I'm working on a piece for the magazine about summer
reading programs that involve community outreach, & I'm looking for examples
of libraries that either take their summer reading programs out of their
buildings (to childcares, recreation centers, summer school programs, etc.)
or promote summer reading programs among groups that aren't traditional
participants in summer programs (lower-income, homeless, immigrants, or any
other non-traditional group). If you're doing a program like this, or if you
know of someone doing a really excellent program of this kind, could you
please let me know about it?

Thanks very much, W

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Walter Minkel, Technology Editor, School Library Journal
www.slj.com * wminkel@cahners.com * 212-463-6721 * fax 212-463-6689

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From: Valerie Worrell <VWorrell@sno-isle.org>
To: Greg Yorba <gyorba@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU>, Linda Frederiksen
Subject: Sno-Isle Regional Library Job Postings for the Week of October 23
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:18:11 CDT

Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a  Managing Librarian III position open
at the Lynnwood Library in Washington State. Job #0157 Closes OPEN UNTIL
FILLED. For more information and to obtain an application on this employment
opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
<http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
____________________________________________________________________________
____________________________
Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a Librarian - Children's Services
position open at the Arlington Library in Washington State. Job #0181 Open
Until Filled. For more information and to obtain an application on this
employment opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
<http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
____________________________________________________________________________
____________________________

Thank you
Valerie Worrell
Sno-Isle Regional Library System
Human Resources Department
360-651-7004

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From: Kathy Maio <kmaio@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
To: 'Betsy Stroomer' <BetsyS@cityoflafayette.com>
Subject: RE: sotry hour kits for distribution
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:18:32 CDT

There is a felt educational product company called The Storyteller
Their web site is www.thestoryteller.com
Toll free phone is 1-800-801-6860.
They have a lapboard 12" x 16" in 3 colors--blue, teal, and purple
as well as other larger flannel boards. The lapboard is $8.95.
Kathy Maio


-----Original Message-----
From: Betsy Stroomer [mailto:BetsyS@cityoflafayette.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Kathy Maio
Subject: sotry hour kits for distribution


Hi Kathy-

In your message about your story hour kits, you mentioned lap flannel
boards.  Can you tell me where you found them?  When we were putting kits
together a couple of years ago, I found lap size velcro boards (covered with
the same fabric as the velcro aprons) at Lakeside Learning Store, but when
we went back for more, they told us they were no longer available.  I'd love
to find a source for flannel or velcro boards in this size.

Thanks so much!

Sincerely,
Betsy
betsys@cityoflafayette.com

Betsy Stroomer
Head of Children's Services
Lafayette Public Library
Lafayette, CO  80026

www.cityoflafayette.com

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From: "Carla Smith" <smithca1@metronet.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: a Halloween Complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:18:51 CDT

Hey Pubyac People,

In all of my years as a good Catholic child and adult, I can never =
remember Halloween being considered a Christian holiday let alone a =
Catholic one.  It is before All Saints day but it is not a holiday for =
catholics.  Halloween is way to fun to not enjoy.  It's like one of the =
only times where you can really be someone else and not get in trouble for =
it.  For the record, I remember my non-Christian friends also running from =
house to house and begging for candy to.  If you don't like it don't =
participate.  Lighten up, people!

later,

Carla Smith
Southfield Public Library

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From: Janet Eckert <jcape52@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Favorite Reference Resources: Compilation
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:19:17 CDT



 Dear Fellow PUBYACers,
A BIG THANK YOU to all of you who contributed recommendations to my request
for your favorite reference resources for students in grades 1 through 12. I
have created a PDF file of the compiled listing which is located on the
Western Massachusetts Regional Library System website at
http://www.wmrls.org/ce/notes/ref.PDF

I continue to receive recommendations and, for this reason, will update the
PUBYAC list as this compilation of favorite reference titles grows. I
greatly appreciate your time and consideration and hope that you enjoy this
list.

Sincerely,

Janet Eckert

Youth Services Consultant

Western Massachusetts Regional Library System

jeckert@wmrls.org

FAX: 413-247-9740



Sincerely,

Janet Eckert

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Halloween complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:19:40 CDT

Whoa Nelly!
I'm having a hard time with this one. I was more or
less with you for the first half but then you took a
hard left somewhere and got COMPLETELY off topic.  I'd
really like to go off since you've seriously opened up
a major can of worms that I'm sure A LOT of us could
go off on for a LONG time.

However I am not going to because as discussed before
and fairly recently, this is NOT the proper forum for
discussions on politicial matters or religion. So as
much as I am BURNING to get into it here I am going to
take the high road and urge everyone else to back off
of this one before it gets out of hand.

Take it somewhere else,
Jennifer Baker
Fresno Co. Library
--- Donna Slaton <misspockets3@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank YOU VERY MUCH Susan Dailey, I agree whole
> heartedly.  Sharing in the joy of holidays
> celebrated
> by the MAJORITY  of our public should not be a
> stressful issue for staff nor should we disappoint
> the
> average child because --one-- somewhere-- might not
> feel comfortable. If we do not celebrate their issue
> because we are celebrating a COMMON holiday or event
> in our country, we have nothing to apologize for.  I
> truly feel that we should welcome with open arms
> those
> people who sincerely wish to come to America to make
> a
> better life for themselves and their children.  But
> at
> the same time remembering that they came here
> because
> of what was better, we should not try to make them
> feel at home by covering up WHAT IS America so as
> not
> to hurt their feelings and trying to make America
> like
> their homeland.  If they want to live there and do
> things that way...let them go back.
> Libraries and librarians should provide information
> about all cultures to all cultures.  But storyhour
> is
> not about validating some multicultural parents
> method
> of raising their child, but of stimulating the use
> and
> joy of books and information at the library. ==
> COMMON
> holidays to the majority in America are not villans
> here.  Attitudes of those who do not want to offend
> one but do not care if the offend the majority are
> the
> big problem. It is really time that the SILENT
> MAJORITY SPOKE UP.   This country was FOUNDED BY
> people WHO BELIEVED IN GOD.  From the Declaration of
> Independence  and on to the National Anthem and the
> money we spend...GOD is recognized as the preminent
> DIETY OF THIS NATION, FOUNDED "UNDER GOD". Those who
> were not born here KNEW THAT WHEN THEY CAME.  We
> should not have to change our lives and our sacred
> honor to suit them.
> The Founding Fathers were CHRISTIANS who did not
> want
> a law making one denomination of Christians superior
> to another.  But anyone who reads the biographies
> available in our public libraries would be able to
> understand that the first amendment was not about
> who
> is God or is he the right one, but that laws should
> not prevent me OR YOU from worshipping Him in OUR
> OWN
> chosen manner.  The First Amendment does not say
> that
> I cannot worship him in public or that an elected
> official cannot.  It says that laws may not
> 'ESTABLISH" only one religion and not allow others
> to
> be practiced.
> Celebrating Christmas, Halloween or any other
> holiday
> at the library does not PREVENT any one from
> celebrating their own.  It only provides information
> and celebration IF THEY CHOOSE TO COME.  Some people
> do not come to storyhour when it rains, but that
> does
> not mean that we should not have it on rainy days
> because some will not come.  To others that is the
> best day to have something special to do.  WE SERVE
> THOSE WHO COME IN TO THE LIBRARY.   That does not
> mean
> to say that we should not encourage the others to
> come.  We should encourage them to come but not dump
> a
> group of patrons we already have to secure a
> possible
> one we have not met yet.  And ultimately, as with
> each
> facet of library work in this huge WONDERFUL COUNTRY
> of ours, our own community standards prevail over
> the
> national fad at the time whatever it is because that
> is the COMMUNITY WE SERVE.
> "And Yes these views are my own and do not reflect
> those of the Library Board or Staff"
> DONNA SLATON, CHILDRENS LIBRARIAN
> MUHLENBERG CO. PUBLIC LIBRARIES
> CENTRAL CITY, KY  42330
>
>
>


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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Halloween objections
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:20:00 CDT

I decorate, put out book displays, and incorporate Halloween into
storytimes.  Most families like it and the ones who don't do not seem to
be militant about it, at least in my area.

However, I think the "multi-cultural holiday" mention has left some
impression that people who object to Halloween are immigrants.  In my
experience the people who object to Halloween as being Satanic and evil
have been both American and Christian.  Jehovah' Witnesses, for example,
do not celebrate holidays such as Halloween and Christmas.

Lisa Smith
lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us

(The compromise I worked out with myself:  I decorate for Halloween,
Thanksgiving, and Valentine's Day.  In December I do winter and in April I
do spring. Ditto with craft programs.)


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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Budget survey for MLS school-please help!
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:20:20 CDT

Hi Jennifer - we get our reading logs, posters and certificates from our
regional library system for free so I don't have to worry about that cost
(and can't estimate how much it would cost). I print several hundred
calendars for my library, costing about $50 at Staples. Otherwise, I order
plastic bags and bookmarks and T-shirts (for staff and 4 for prizes) from a
company - which comes to about $30. For prizes, McDonald's, a recreation
complex, a pizza parlor and two ice cream vendors give coupons, which I
raffle off every week. I would estimate those at a worth of about $1100. I
run a weekly craft night apart from regularly scheduled storytimes, and the
cost on those is picked up by the Friends or by a group associated with the
Elementary School - this year cost about $200. Hope this helps, Melissa,
Carver Public Library mmacleod@sailsinc.org

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From: Ashley Larsen <ashwynne@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: How do you select children's materials?
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:20:42 CDT

Hi!
 
I'm on a task force for our county libraries to help
redesign the selection process for juvenile materials.
 In order to make our process more efficient, we'd
like to look at examples of how other public libraries
evaluate and order books for children.  Would any of
you be willing to send me a brief description of how
this works in your library? 

For example, do you select books based on review
sources, preview copies, or both?  Do you order the
books before they are published or after?  How do you
handle requests for materials you don't already own?
How do you handle series?  Any information you can
give me will be helpful. 
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Ashley
 
Ashley Larsen
Community Services Librarian
Woodside Library
3140 Woodside Road
Woodside, CA 94062
650-851-0147

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From: Beverly Bixler <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Halloween Complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:21:06 CDT

How funny: I also had "fundamentalist" parents who allowed us three girls to
trick-or-treat and gave us presents under the Christmas tree labeled "From
Santa Claus." I also ate way more sugary cereal than I probably should have.
Also funny: I am definitely NOT a vegetarian, but I tend to avoid the
"killing the turkey" type fingerplays at Thanksgiving. I am more likely to
use a "Pilgrim" fingerplay, or perhaps a fingerplay that is about feasting
in general (where the food is already dead.)
Beverly Bixler
San Antonio Public Library, TX

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From: "Sarah Prielipp" <seprielipp@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Programming (Brief Survey)
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:21:25 CDT

Hi.  I am looking for information about teen programs from other libraries.
My questions are listed below:

1.  What age ranges do you serve for teen programs? (E.G. Do you have
programs for 12-14, 15-17, 12 and up, etc.?)
2.  How often do you offer teen programs (1/mo.or 2/mo., etc.)?

Thank you in advance.  I will compile results to the list, so please respond
directly to me at seprielipp@hotmail.com

*********************************************************************

Sarah Prielipp
Youth Services Associate
Veterans Memorial Library
Mount Pleasant, Michigan

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"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it is hard
to read." -- Groucho Marx


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From: Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Subliminal?? Little Critters Construction
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:21:51 CDT


--- The Little Critter website www.littlecritter.com
has a screen where you can send an e-mail to Mercer
Mayer.  Why not go straight to the top and ask the
author?

Susan Engelmann
North Kansas City Public Library

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From: Paulalef@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Halloween Complaint
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:22:15 CDT


Hi, all!
I wasn't planning to jump in on this, but thought you might be interested in
an experience we had some years ago. A number of parents wanted to look at
the books we used for Halloween and other holidays, so we agreed. Next some
of them wanted to look at all the books we were planning to read for the
entire series. OK, we said yes, but they would have to come in weekly
because
we don't always choose the books way in advance. We also tend to carry about
twice as many books as we can use because we don't want to be stuck in case
we need to switch gears. Most of them were fine with this. One mother,
however, began to insist that she have right of refusal on all books and
other activities we used in any program in which her children were enrolled
-- and here we drew the line. I told her she could examine what we had
planned and decide for herself whether or not she would have her children
participate, but the programs were planned according to our professional
judgment for the benefit of all the children enrolled. This was a decision I
made as department head, even though I was not the storyteller. She still is
not happy with me, perhaps six years later, but that is her choice. We try
to
select themes and materials appropriate to the children we serve and are
proud of the programs we do, but I have to warn everyone that right of
refusal for a patron's child can quickly escalate into a demand for
censorship rights. We still show our materials to anyone who wants to see
them, but with the understanding that this is to allow them to make
decisions
for their own child only.

Paula Lefkowitz
Parsippany (NJ) PL

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Halloween complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:22:38 CDT

Wow - should I even bother to respond to this email? I can't help it.
Donna - you seem to be under the impression that the complaints are coming
from non-Christian immigrants when in fact every complaint I have had here
has come from Fundamentalist Christians who have spent their lives in this
country. You talk about people going back to their own countries if they do
not like the way things are here, it's the "Red-blooded Americans" who are
"saving this country" from all the rest of us heretics (i.e. - non
Christians).
You wrote:
"It is really time that the SILENT MAJORITY SPOKE UP. This country was
FOUNDED BY people WHO BELIEVED IN GOD.  From the Declaration of Independence
and on to the National Anthem and the money we spend...GOD is recognized as
the preminent DIETY OF THIS NATION, FOUNDED "UNDER GOD". Those who were not
born here KNEW THAT WHEN THEY CAME.  We should not have to change our lives
and our sacred honor to suit them."
If I may write in caps at this pint - WOW! - I am almost speechless -
almost. Mostly I am scared, and while I will not change my "sacred honor" to
suit "them"  - whoever that may refer to? - I also could not ignore your
inflammatory rhetoric. Are you representative of the "SILENT MAJORITY?" I
sure hope not.

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From: Chris Burnett <cburnett@coralville.lib.ia.us>
To: "'treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us'" <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>,
Subject: Compilation-Big Kids Storytime Ideas
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:23:08 CDT

Hi!  Finally I had a moment to gather up some stuff. Following are the two
responses I received to my long ago inquiry on Storytime Ideas for Big Kids.
So sorry for the delay!  I posted in June and that seems like yesterday!

>From Paticia Kelley at the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh's Brookline Branc
h
Books:
Possum Come a'Knockin' - Van Laan
Twist with a Burger, Jitter with a Bug - Lowry
The Napping House - Wood
Big Wolf and Little Wolf - Denslow (tell them to join in on the howling)

Participation Songs:
"The Beaver Song"  (I let them pick the animals to imitate and get some
weird ones...peacock, tarantula...)

>From Leslie Johnson at the Golden Public Library in Golden, CO:

Sweet Clara and the Freedom Quilt - Hopkinson
The Keeping Quilt - Polacco

She brought in a large quilt and talked about how it was made/types of
quilts.

>From me:

Margaret Read McDonald's version of the traditional Pawnee Tale, Baby
Rattlesnake's First Rattle can be found in her book published in 2000 by
August House, called Shake It Up Tales:  Stories to SIng, Dance, Drum & Act
Out (a treasure trove!).  Using her version and the adaptation by Lynn
Maroney, told to her by Te Ata, Baby Rattlesnake; I added in the shakers and
the puppet (have done without the puppet and works equally well) and viola!
Truly fun for me and the kids.  I am about to an Outreach series with the
Theme of snakes and will be telling this gem 8 times in the next few weeks!

Another resource book I love for this age is Crazy Gibberish by Naomi
Baltuck.  Lots of fun participation stuff that works great even if you
don't/can't memorize it!  Little Rap Riding Hood, for example.  They clapped
and I read-GREAT!

A recent theme was Hey Diddle Diddle: The Story Behind the Rhyme! I used
Janet Steven's new book And the Dish Ran Away with the Spoon, Over the Moon
by Rachel Vail and Moonstruck:  The True Story of the Cow Who Jumped Over
the Moon by Gennifer Choldenko.

Other ideas would be the various spin-offs of traditional tales with wolves
such as Three Little Pigs or Goldilocks, such as, Beware of the Bears by
MacDonald.

Hope this helps to inspire. I run across new stuff everyday and as I prepare
to move on I am taking notes!

Sincerely,
Christine Burnett

Chris
"A library is a most congenial place for happily-ever-aftering." ~ Karen
Hesse

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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
To: OPLINLIST@EPICURUS.OPLIN.LIB.OH.US, PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Junie B. Jones party...
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Has anyone out there done a Junie B. Jones party?  I'd like to plan one for
maybe after the first of the year.  I'd like ideas, games, etc.

Thanks in advance!

Barbara Scott
Children's Librarian, Bucyrus Public Library
Ohio Reading Program Manual Editor


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From: JoAnne Dearin <dearin@noblenet.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: halloween crafts, games, ... (fwd)
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Quit a few people e-mailed privately to forward the directions for the
Halloween Door Hanger.  Thanks to Elaine Morgan of Portland, OR I was able
to get the directions for our craft day of Saturday.  Here are the
directions if any one else is interested in it.  We made a sample today
and it really came out cute!

JoAnne

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JoAnne Dearin, Children's Librarian
Peabody Institute Library, Danvers Massachusetts
dearin@noblenet.org
North of Boston Library Exchange

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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:57:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elaine Morgan <elainem@multcolib.org>
To: JoAnne Dearin <dearin@noblenet.org>
Subject: RE: halloween crafts, games, ... (fwd)

I hope this is the craft you are looking for.
elm

Elaine Lesh Morgan, Youth Librarian Rockwood Branch Library
Multnomah County Library 17917 S.E. Stark St.
(503) 988-5396  fax (503)988-5178 Portland, OR  97233
elainem@multcolib.org

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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:51:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Theyer Hillary <HTheyer@TORRNET.COM>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org, 'Michelle Gabbard' <smgabbs_2@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: halloween crafts, games, ...

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The craft I have done for three years is Halloween doorknob hangers. You
need:

Black and orange wide yarn, about 3 feet per child
Halloween shapes on black, orange, grey and white construction paper, at
least 4" wide and high (cookie cutters are good for these, you can get cheap
plastic shapes such as a pumpkin, witch, ghost, bat, cat, etc.)  Three
shapes per child, two sides of each so two pumpkins, two ghosts, and two
cats for example.
Elmer's (White) glue.  Glue sticks and rubber cement don't work.
Crayons or markers

They color one side of each shape.  They lay three shapes colored face down
in a vertical line, put glue on them, lay the yarn down them with the glue,
then glue the other shapes back to back, leaving most of the unused yarn at
the top.  Tie a slip knot in the top, and a simple knot in the bottom to
keep the yarn from unraveling.  It is meant to hang on a doorknob to welcome
trick-or-treaters.

This is difficult to describe, I wish I could e-mail a sample!  I have had
great fun with this one, and I recommend cutting the yarn and the shapes out
ahead of time.

For games, I play "Pin the Nose on the Jack O' Lantern"

Hillary Theyer

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From:  Michelle Gabbard
Sent:  Wednesday, October 18, 2000 6:14 PM
To:  pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject:  halloween crafts, games, ...

Hello!

We are trying to pull all of the details for our Halloween party for
1st
through 3rd grades together.  I am just not happy with any of the
craft
ideas that we have came across.  Is anyone else tire of pipe cleaner

spiders?  So I was wondering if any of you have some ideas that you
would
share.  I am also interested in games.

Thank you



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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: 3 little pigs
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I certainly stock Clifford and some Franklin; I stand by my personal
policy of having Disney fairy tales only in the video collection. --
Mary Ann

> On another note, I did buy the Disney versions of
> things because parents and children often asked for
> them. When a child comes up and asks me for the Little
> Mermaid I always ask if they mean Ariel or just a
> mermaid story. Usually the answer is Ariel but you
> never know. If that's what the child wants, who am I
> to judge?
>
> I think not buying something that is popular just
> because we, the almighty trained, skilled and educated
> librarians, don't think it's appropriate "literature"
> is censorship.

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From: Andrea Terry <cavgrads97@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Halloween complaint
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:24:51 CDT

Ok, I've kept my devoutly PC mouth shut (fingers
still?) until now, listening and appreciating
everyone's input on this subject.  And yes, I do
decorate a bit spooky for the month of October (giant
5' garbage bag spider on my celing with black crepe
paper legs), but not for "Halloween."  I make spooky
crafts, have a Pumpkin Painting activity, but do not
specify that we are celebrating Halloween, Christmas,
Easter, Chaunukah, Ramandan, Kwanzaa, whatever.  I
enjoy the holidays, but don't single out any
group--ie, no Christmas crafts, but we do make
decorations that could be put on a Christmas tree.  No
Easter egg decorating, just egg decorating.

  I do not appreciate this discussion becoming
Christian discussion and saying that those who don't
like everything about this country, including its
holidays, should go back to the country they have left
(presumably for good reasons).  I find that to be over
the line.  And just because our Founding Fathers were
Christians doesn't give us the right to exclude groups
in our programs and decorations by making them
specific to Christian (or other groups) holidays.  We
are not department stores or retail outlets.  We are
public servants (although there are days we all wish
we weren't, I'm sure!) obligated to welcome everyone
and make no one that has acceptable behavior feel
uncomfortable.  Retail stores capitalize on
holidays--that's their job, making money.  Our job is
to be welcoming to all and non-denominational,
non-predjudice and non-segregational.

I'll jump off my soap box.  Thanks for listening.
Anyone who has a response to this, please contact me
in person--cavgrads97@yahoo.com

=====
Andrea Terry
Juvenile Services Librarian
Libby Memorial Library
Old Orchard Beach, Maine
cavgrads97@yahoo.com

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From: lrogers@sdln.net
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: Word Processing
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:25:22 CDT

I'd really appreciate your thoughts and experience with this.
We will soon have four computers with Word 2000 and educational games in our
YA
section.  I'd like to hear from those of you who provide word processing for
your patrons. What kinds of problems have you encountered? We plan to have a
guide telling them how to start (new or download from floppy), save to a
floppy, and print. Other than that, we will provide a "Word for
Dummies" type reference book. We are hoping for the Librarian equivalent
of "Life Guard NOT on Duty". Do you have problems with documents
"disappearing"
onto the hard drive instead of the floppy?  Do you keep those documents for
a
day, week, month? Any and all information welcomed!
Thanks, Lala Rogers

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From: "Kathy Crawford" <kathy_crawford@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: stortytime name
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Our program for this age group is called Primarily Fun.

Kathy Crawford
LaRue County Public Library
kathy_crawford@hotmail.com

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From: Rita Hunt Smith <RitaHuntSmith@DERRYTOWNSHIP.ORG>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: stumper: hands are not for hitting
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Had a patron in today who works in a city school district with a program
called "Hands are not for Hitting."  She visits primary classrooms and does
activities and shares stories about non-violent conflict resolution.  She is
particularly interested in stories about hitting.  We have exhausted our
resources here--does anyone have a favorite book on bullies or hitting?
Please note that the characters must be ethnically diverse and the book
cannot foster gender stereotypes.  We have already suggested The Ant Bully,
Bootsie Barker Bites, Yoko, Chrysthanthemum, Hooway for Wodney Wat, Just a
Bully, and the early readers by Tookie Williams among others.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Rita

Rita Hunt Smith
Children's Librarian
Hershey Public Library
701 Cocoa Ave
Hershey, PA
ritahuntsmith@derrytownship.org

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From: "Jennifer Lindsey" <jlindsey@libraryweb.org>
To: "Pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:26:30 CDT


Hi All,

I have a patron who needs a picture to illustrate the point that not all =
things are as they appear. An example she gave me was Ed Young's Seven =
Blind Mice where the blind mice thought parts of the elephant were =
actually other things. I consulted A to Zoo and didn't have much luck. I =
was hoping someone could come up with some additional titles. Thanks in =
advance.

Jenn Lindsey

Jennifer L. Lindsey
Children's Services Librarian
Seymour Library
Brockport, New York 14420
(716) 637-1050        Fax (716) 637-1051
jlindsey@libraryweb.org

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Military titles for the young
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:26:59 CDT


Thanks to all who responded to my call for titles for young children who =
have a parent in the military. I asked for books that didn't involve =
combat or weapon descriptions and these were some suggestions. One =
woman, who is the spouse of someone in the navy, wrote a list of books =
that she has used with her children, dealing with separation anxiety as =
well as the military issue.

Soldier Mom by Alice Mead
My Father is in the Navy by Robin McKinley=20
Operation: Homefront by Caroline Cooney=20
A Special Family Friend and a New Adventure by Hoffman and Sitler
All Kinds of Families by Norma Simon
If You Listen by Charlotte Zolotow=20
The Goodbye Painting by Linda Berman
All Those Secrets of the World by Jane Yolen
Dads at a Distance: An Activities Handbook for Strengthening Long =
Distance Relationships
Moms Over Miles: An Activities Handbook for Strengthening Long Distance =
Relationships
The Kissing Hand by Audrey Penn=20
Mommy, Don't Go by Elizabeth Crary
I'll See You When the Moon Is Full by Susi L. Fowler
My Daddy's in the Navy" by Raquel Anne Gleason

http://www.militaryfamily.com/militaryshop/media_Detail_layout.asp?media_=
id=3DCB&ngroup_id=3D124
has a collection of coloring books that touch on many
topics for military children

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From: Sue Jones <sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumpers (2)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:27:29 CDT

Hello Friends,

These two series descriptions didn't ring any bells here, so I am appealing
to the collective memory of PubYac.

1)  Three children spend a an idyllic summer at a cabin by a lake, not
knowing that the water is magical. If they hold hands and make a wish, they
are transported somewhere. Another sequel had this same trick working over a
simple bucket of magical lake water. Patron thought there were at least 6
books in the series.

2)  A medieval series where a young girl, a commoner, discovers that she is
of royal blood after she sees a painting of a royal person who looks just
like her. She finds that she has also been separated from a brother
(possibly a twin) and the series involves her seeking her birthright and
finding this brother.

Thank you all for any suggestions offered.

Sue Jones
Pleasanton Public Library
(925) 931-3400 x 23
sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us <mailto:sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>

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