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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:08 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 612
PUBYAC Digest 612
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: children's cd-rom software
by CCullum621@aol.com
2) School Liaison Listserv?
by Sarah McGowan <smcgowan@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
3) Re: Help with Lapsit program.
by "Laurence Yamazaki" <reinedecoeur@hotmail.com>
4) Grinch Christmas party
by <bkworm@mindspring.com>
5) storytime thems
by "ldhodges" <ldhodges@cox-internet.com>
6) Hi-Low for Teens II
by "Rebecca Higgerson" <rhiggerson@mail.saclibrary.net>
7) stumper - one eye, no nose
by "Crystal Faris" <cfaris@nassaulibrary.org>
8) Re: children's cd-rom software
by Eric Norton <enorton@scls.lib.wi.us>
9) RE: Help with Lapsit program.
by "Barron, Stacie" <StacieB@mail.jefferson.lib.la.us>
10) Snowman stories
by "Elaine Moustakas" <elainem9@hotmail.com>
11) Help with lapsit program
by Valerie Laukhuf <laukhuva@oplin.lib.oh.us>
12) RE: Help with Lapsit program.
by "Lynnette Schoshke" <lschoshke@salpublib.org>
13) Accelerated Reader
by <bkworm@mindspring.com>
14) back with dream job listing
by hbaugh@carmel.lib.in.us
(Hope Baugh)
15) Read-alouds compilation
by "Swan, Susan L." <SLSwan@ptlibrary.org>
16) science fiction HELP?!!!
by "Bloedau, Linda" <LBloedau@ci.oak-ridge.tn.us>
17) children's literature awards
by Susan Rhodes <unx2968@instruct.langara.bc.ca>
18) Thanks - CD software
by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
19) book discussion ideas for 5th/6th
by "Taylor Juvenile" <taylorjuv@hotmail.com>
20) STUMPER
by Kerry Preece <kapreece@scls.lib.wi.us>
21) RE: PUBYAC digest 611
by DGPL Junior Room <dgjrrm@sls.lib.il.us>
22) Re: children's cd-rom software
by "Charlyn Watch" <cwatch@plymouth.lib.mi.us>
23) kids vote, respect books & Narnia too
by "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
24) Purchasing non-print materials
by Robyn Lupa <rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us>
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From: CCullum621@aol.com
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Subject: Re: children's cd-rom software
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:07:07 CST
I have just bejun preparing to circulate children compouter software and I
am
using Crimson.
It was recommended by another librarian who began with this company.
Carolyn
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From: Sarah McGowan <smcgowan@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: School Liaison Listserv?
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:07:42 CST
Does anyone know of a listserv for librarians who are school liaisons or
who do a lot of work with schools?
Thanks,
Sarah McGowan
Lincolnwood Public Library
Lincolnwood, Illinois
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From: "Laurence Yamazaki" <reinedecoeur@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Help with Lapsit program.
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:08:05 CST
I work at a branch of the New York Public Library where I hold a lapsit
program once every two weeks and a weekly story time. I found
that scheduling the lapsit and the story time on different days works best.
Good luck.
Laurence Yamazaki
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From: <bkworm@mindspring.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Grinch Christmas party
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:08:26 CST
Our library will be holding its second Grinch Christmas Party this year.
The Grinch will be back by popular demand. Did anyone out there do a
grinch
party last year?? If so, I would be open to new ideas for crafts.
I have
some things from a website, including a Grinch mask and tree ornaments, but
I would like to add something new. We will be doing a Grinch cake walk
again this year, if anyone is interested. Last year I cut green Grinch
footprints out of posterboard and numbered them for the children to follow
around the room for the cakewalk.
Thanks!
Mary Jones
Bailey Cove Public Library
Huntsville, AL
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From: "ldhodges" <ldhodges@cox-internet.com>
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Subject: storytime thems
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Hello all!
I am looking for some fresh themes for storytime. Does anyone have a
theme
that you and/or the kids particularly enjoy? I am planning both
toddler and
preschool storytimes, so themes appropriate to either would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Lori
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Lori H. Fritz
Reference/Youth Services Librarian
College Station Public Library
1818 Harvey Mitchell Pkwy. South
College Station, TX 77845
ldhodges@cox-internet.com
Phone: 979-764-3416
Fax: 979-764-6379
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From: "Rebecca Higgerson" <rhiggerson@mail.saclibrary.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Hi-Low for Teens II
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:09:10 CST
On 11/13 I posted the following:
We are in the process of creating a reading list for hi-low fiction and
non-fiction for teens. Twenty or so titles will do it. I'll be happy
to
share the list. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Rebecca
Then our email system crashed and I didn't receive any of your responses.
Please respond to me personally, if possible.
Thanks again!
--
Rebecca Higgerson
Youth Services Librarian
Sacramento Public Library
828 I St.
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916)264-2845
(916)264-2854 (fax)
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From: "Crystal Faris" <cfaris@nassaulibrary.org>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper - one eye, no nose
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A first grader is looking for a book that was read to his class by a guest
the Friday before Halloween. He describes the book as a scary story
with a
spooky tree and a little girl with one eye and no nose. If you have
any
suggestions as to the title, please send them to me at the email address
below and the first grader and his librarian will be most grateful.
Thanks much -
Crystal Faris
Youth Services Manager
Nassau Library System
900 Jerusalem Ave; Uniondale, NY 11553
516-292-8920 ext. 230
cfaris@nassaulibrary.org
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From: Eric Norton <enorton@scls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: children's cd-rom software
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:10:06 CST
Lori:
I tend to start each year by visiting my local Staples, Wal-Mart and K-Mart
and picking up what I can directly. Otherwise, I buy many things
through
the Library Video catalog. They have a large selection and seemed to
be as
cheap or cheaper than the other catalogs that I was getting. In the
last
few catalogs that I have received from the Reading Rainbow folks, I notice
that they now are offering a few cd-roms. I haven't tried them out yet
but
Levar and associates do some very fine work on video so I am expecting the
cd-roms to be well done also.
Eric Norton
Head of Children's Services
McMillan Memorial Library
Wisconsin Rapids WI 54494
enorton@scls.lib.wi.us
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From: "Barron, Stacie" <StacieB@mail.jefferson.lib.la.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Thanks Melissa. I've gotten a lot of response to my question. I
am going
to move them to different days and see how that works out. If it
doesn't
then I'll try something else. After reading all the responses I've
decided
that the best thing to do is keep them separate. Thanks to everyone
that
sent me a response to my dilemma. It really helped me out.
Stacie Barron
Children's Librarian
East Bank Regional Library
Metairie, LA 70001
-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa MacLeod [mailto:mmacleod@sailsinc.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:19 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Help with Lapsit program.
I could list 100 reasons not to put lapsit and preschool storytimes
ogether - I would suggest moving them to different days to curtail
your
current problem.
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From: "Elaine Moustakas" <elainem9@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Snowman stories
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Hello PubYac! :-)
You are always so wonderfully helpful with requests and I just know you'll
pull through this time too.
I've been asked to do a Snowman story time for 3 & 4 year olds for the
town's newcomer's club. I'm thinking I can sneak in a couple
snow-related
stories that are not necessarily snowman stories. I've been searching
for
some great stories and I've found a couple
(Snowballs by Lois Ehlert, Snow by Uri Shulevitz), but so many I'm running
across seem too long and uninteresting for this age group. Are there
any
good short, rhyming or repeating lines snow/snowman stories out there?
Any
suggestions would be *greatly* appreciated!
Please send your replies to elainem9@hotmail.com.
Thank you!
Elaine
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From: Valerie Laukhuf <laukhuva@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:11:10 CST
Our library, Putnam County District Library, has a toddler and preschool
story time. I have discovered that I must keep toddler time short in
order to hold their attention. Toddler time runs no more than 20
minutes. I include short picture books, fingerplays, share time,
songs,
and puppets. I do not provide crafts. Mainly because their
attention
span is too short. Also, I would rather share quality literature.
I usually ask parents to leave the room for both toddler time and
preschool story time. This is good separation for both parents and
children. However, I have a couple of young ones that the parents
stay,
but the idea seems to work pretty good.
Toddlers and preschoolers love storytimes. So, I usually have full
registrations. Registration is required with limited amounts. I
have
to set a limit because I am the only one available for the program.
Besides, it is easier to deal with a smaller group. I can provide
better service to the children.
Good luck to you!!
Valerie Laukhuf
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From: "Lynnette Schoshke" <lschoshke@salpublib.org>
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The perimeters for your lapsit program may need to be changed. We have
our
age for the lapsit storytimes set for birth to 18 mo. This seems to
work
rather well. The older ones do tend to
wander around some during the session but as a whole it is not that
disruptive. At times I have to remind myself that it is not important
that
they sit still but the goal is to introduce them to storytime and allow them
social time with their peers. You are absolutely correct that two i/2
hour
programs back to back are way to much for young children. Their
attention
spans are not that long and it could be nothing but frustration for them and
for the parent. Another thing that we do is schedule our lapsit
storytimes
on days we do not have regular storytimes already scheduled. We have
three
storytimes each Tues., Wed. and Thurs. so the lapsit is scheduled for Mon.,
or Fri. or Sat. This helps to eliminate the problem of parents trying
to
schedule too many things for their little ones to do in one day. I
hope
this helps you. Lynnette
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From: <bkworm@mindspring.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Accelerated Reader
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:11:58 CST
My thanks to the librarian who recently wrote such a clear, concise argument
against Accelerated Reader. I have seen many of the same problems.
My main
concern about AR is the number of schools in Alabama using it as a grading
tool. It was never designed this way. It is so wrong for a
student's
grades to be affected by AR. I don't think that the company condones
this,
but they also do not actively discourage it. I am also concerned about
the
seemingly arbitrary nature of the grade-level rankings of the books.
What
logical person even imagines that you can pinpoint a book's readability to
the tenth decimal point????? Not to mention the fact that the book's
appeal
for certain age groups is not even considered. Most reading experts will
tell you that there is no realiable method for determining the reading level
of a fiction book. Frye Readability Scale is used maily for textbooks,
and
can't be applied to fiction at all. Have the creators of the AR
program,
Advantage Le!
arning Systems, proven beyond doubt that their method for leveling books is
accurate?? If so, I would like to see the evidence.
Mary Jones
Huntsville, AL
These opinions do not necessary reflect those of my organization.
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From: hbaugh@carmel.lib.in.us
(Hope Baugh)
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: back with dream job listing
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:12:24 CST
Dear PUBYAC,
I haven't been on this list for several years, for one reason or another.
But now I'm back because:
1) My wonderful former boss, Mari Hardacre, who used to skim PUBYAC and
forward on to me the things most pertinent to my job as YA librarian, has
just now started a new job as a YA librarian in Ohio, in order to be closer
to her mom, who is having severe health problems. Everyone here at the
Carmel Clay Public Library (Carmel,
Indiana) is really going to miss Mari. I hope those people in
Cleveland
Heights know what a wonderful librarian they're getting!
2) Pending Board approval on 11/26, I am now the Young Adult Services
Manager
here (Mari's old job.) So now it will be up to me to skim PUBYAC and
forward on the most pertinent bits to my successor. (Or she/he can
skim it
for herself. That's okay, too.)
'Speaking of successors, below is the official ad for my old job, straight
off
our website at http://www.carmel.lib.in.us.
If you're interested,
please feel free to email me with any questions you might have. There
are
many hidden perks, including:
* a VERY supportive director and Board plus pro-YA staff in other
departments,
* excellent part-time YA staff (you and I would be the two fulltime people
in the YA department),
* opportunities for professional development,
* a physical work environment made of rich, beautiful materials and filled
with natural light that comes complete with a wonderful array of bright,
articulate teens after school,
* your own desk, your own computer, your own phone...and time off the
public desk in which to work with them!
* and more.
It feels good to be back on PUBYAC. I look forward to hearing from
you.
Best wishes,
Hope Baugh
Young Adult Librarian - posted 11/14/01
The Young Adult Librarian assists young adult patrons in locating and
obtaining materials and information, selects and maintains assigned
collections, and develops and implements programming for junior high and
high school students. Specific responsibilities include:
* providing reference and readers' advisory services primarily related to
the young adult collection;
* instructing or assisting patrons in using the library's online catalog
and electronic databases;
* developing and maintaining a high quality collection of young adult
literature;
* providing programs, creating displays, developing brochures, and
contributing to newsletters and other publications;
* conducting outreach and providing programs in local schools;
* planning, coordinating and/or assisting with young adult programs such as
summer reading, Teen Library Council, author visits, speakers, field trips,
etc.;
* contributing to the Young Adult page of the library's Web site.
To qualify for this position, candidates must have a Masters degree in
Library or Information Science from an institution accredited by the
American Library Association and prior experience in a library, school, or
other youth-serving organization. Demonstrated knowledge of young adult
literature and electronic resources, computer skills, excellent
communication abilities, and a strong customer service focus are also
required. Candidates must be able to work a varied schedule including day,
evening and weekend hours. To apply, please submit a resume and cover
letter to:
Human Resources
Manager, CCPL, 55 4th Avenue SE, Carmel, IN 46032
Fax: 317-571- 4285
Email: cwenz@carmel.lib.in.us
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From: "Swan, Susan L." <SLSwan@ptlibrary.org>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Read-alouds compilation
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Sorry this has taken so long for me to put together. Here is the
compilation I promised and my original question.
>>In our school district, parents of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd graders are
asked
to come in as Mystery Readers, one a week, >>throughout the year.
The
parents are always asking me for recommendations of something
appropriate they can read in >>15-20 minutes. I have my own
personal
favorites and have given most of them out. What would some of you
recommend?
Susan Swan
Peters Township Public Library
slswan@ptlibrary.org
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Dear Susan,
I have found that first and second graders have loved The Napping House
by Audrey Wood and A Promise is a Promise by Rober Munsch. Actually,
just about anything by Robert Munsch goes over well (as there is often a
refrain or a cumulative effect). A book I've found to be very
successful with third through fifth grade is The Selkie Girl by Susan
Cooper. Students have been transfixed by it. Mordecai Gerstein's
The
Wild Boy has also been a great hit for older students-Grade 3-6. The
latter two books are more serious in tone.
Kelly Kowalchuk
Patricia Polacco's books would just about fit that bill, but you have to
share the pictures.
The first couple of chapters of a longer book would be good, like
something by Beverly Cleary.
Fairy tales.
I'm stymied.
CW
Without a doubt...KING BIDGOOD'S IN THE BATHTUB (Audrey Wood)...
Peace and blessings,
Cathy Norman
Youth Services Librarian
Fairport Harbor Public Library
335 Vine St. Fairport Harbor, OH 44077
I get this question a lot, too, and unless they are looking for
something specific, I always recommend fractured fairy tales. I love
to
read these out loud to kids, but they are usually just a little too
sophisticated for my preschool storytimes. However, they are perfect
for 1st-3rd grades; the humor is usually right on their level, and they
love being able to recognize the elements of familiar stories. Some of
my favorites are:
Little Red Cowboy Hat by Susan Lowell (she has 3-4 others)
True Story of the 3 Little Pigs by Jon Sczieska
Three Little Wolves and the Big Bad Pig by Eugene Trivizas
The Frog Prince Continues by Jon Sczieska
Fanny's Dream by Caralyn Buehner
Hope this helps! I'll be interested in seeing the compilation.
Sue
Sue Ridnour
Children's Services Manager
Flower Mound (TX) Public Library
972.874.6153
Hi Susan-I can sympathize with your parents looking for read alouds!
Many years ago, on my 1st library job, I inherited a weekly 15 minute
radio show, and I was forever looking for material to use. I'm sort of
glad I was young and ignorant about copyright, since that would probably
have slowed me down even more! Anyway, I'd like to recommend Elizabeth
Enright's books. In all of them, there are older people who tell stories
about things they did when they were kids, and these made good read
aloud excerpts. For instance, the fishing story that Mr. Titus tells
Oliver in (I think!) Then There were Five.
Sharon
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Sharon Henegar
Coordinator of Children's Services
Orange County Public Library
I am also frequently asked for read-alouds for elementary classes, and I
look forward to your compilation of responses.=20
Can you open attachments? Here are my working-files (not proofed yet.)
Let me know if you would rather I cut and paste them back to you.
<<Read Aloud First Grade.doc>> <<Read Aloud Third
Grade.doc>> <<Read
Aloud Fourth and Fifth Grades.doc>>=20
<<Read Aloud Second Grade.doc>> <<Read Aloud Chapter
Books.doc>> <<Read
Aloud Kindergarten.doc>>=20
Elizabeth Murphy=20
Youth Librarian=20
Spicewood Springs Branch=20
Austin Public Library=20
8637 Spicewood Springs Rd.=20
Austin, TX 78759=20
(512)258-9282=20
fax (512)331-4435=20
elizabeth.murphy@ci.austin.tx.us=20
(You'll need to e-mail Elizabeth directly as attachments won't come
through on the mailing list. Her lists are fabulous! --Susan
Swan)
I've always liked reading aloud Liza Lou and the Yeller Belly Swamp by
Mercer Mayer (1976).
Celeste Fong
Librarian
South Ontario Branch Library
2403-D Vineyard Ave.
Ontario, CA 91761
(909) 395-2251
Fax: (909) 930-0836
Thanks for all your suggestions and your willingness to share!
Susan Swan
Peters Township Public Library
slswan@ptlibrary.org <mailto:slswan@ptlibrary.org>=20
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From: "Bloedau, Linda" <LBloedau@ci.oak-ridge.tn.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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oh, ye great ones......
recently got a zinger from a parent asking us to PLEASE update our juvenile
science fiction ---- what should we have? any "must-haves" in your
opinion?
thanks!
LJB
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From: Susan Rhodes <unx2968@instruct.langara.bc.ca>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: children's literature awards
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A class project has us developing an in-class website for children's
literature awards. Are there any bibliographies or lists of the awards
available worldwide, so we can decide how broad or narrow a scope we
should have?
Thanks for your help.
Please answer off list to unx2968@instruct.langara.bc.ca.
Susan Rhodes
Library Technician Program
Langara College
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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks - CD software
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Thanks to everyone who responded to my request. The overwhelming
winner was
Library Video Company with Crimson Multimedia coming in at a close second.
The others mentioned were School Library Journal and Children's Software
Revue.
Again, thanks to everyone! And a happy holiday to all who celebrate
it.
Lorie
Lorie J. O'Donnell
Jervis Public Library Children's Room
Rome, NY 13440
To the uneducated, an A is just three sticks.
-----Winnie the Pooh
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From: "Taylor Juvenile" <taylorjuv@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: book discussion ideas for 5th/6th
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Dear Great Brain,
I need some ideas for good books for my mother daughter book club.
I have used Tuck Everlasting, Journey, Shiloh, Long Way from Chicago,
Because of Winn Dixie, Ella Enchanted, The Facts and Fictions of Minna
Pratt, Running out of Time, Hey,World, Here I am, Letters from Rifka, and
Nory Ryan's Song. The girls are 9,10,and 11.
Any Ideas? I also need to get the book in paperback, so it can't be too new.
Thanks!
Gloria Adams
Please e-mail me at taylorjuvj@hotmail.com
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From: Kerry Preece <kapreece@scls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:06:29 CST
My first stumper request. A patron remembers having his teacher read a
book to the class when he was in about 3rd or 4th grade. All he
remembers
about the book is that it is about a girl living on an island, in the
Phillipines?, she goes to visit another island for a couple of days and
when she returns to her island everyone else has been killed in a war.
She
befriends a dog/wolf and he saves her from danger. He seems to think
the
title has something to do with the word Abalone or that the girl's name is
Abalonia or something like it. I would appreciate it if anyone out
there
had any information about what this book may be. Thanks. Please
respond
off list.
Kerry A. Preece
Youth Services Librarian
McMillan Memorial Library
Wisconsin Rapids, WI 54494
(715) 423-1040
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From: DGPL Junior Room <dgjrrm@sls.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
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I have a stumper for the collective mind!
A patron has been looking for this book for several years: what she
remembers is that a tailor is given a patchwork coat to repair (she thinks
velvety blue?) and she thinks that at the end he didn't finish it and maybe
had to trade it for something that somehow ended up with someone in need.
She remembered that it was beautifully illustrated. It is
not "Joseph
Had a Little Overcoat" or "Clancy's Coat".
If you have any ideas, please email direct to the address below.
Thanks in
advance for your help!
judy
Junior Room Staff
Downers Grove Public Library
1050 Curtiss Street
Downers Grove, Illinois 60515
dgjrrm@downersgrovelibrary.org
630.960.1200
fax: 630.960.9374
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From: "Charlyn Watch" <cwatch@plymouth.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: children's cd-rom software
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:07:15 CST
LIBRARY VIDEO COMPANY is our favorite catalog source here at Plymouth
District Library: 1(800) 843-3620. Our other favorite source is
COMPUSA in
a nearby city. Have fun! Char Watch, Youth Services Librarian.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: children's cd-rom software
> Hi everyone,
>
> A quick question. Do you have a favorite catalog or source for
purchasing
> children's CD-ROM software?
>
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
>
> Lorie
>
> Lorie J. O'Donnell
> odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us
> Jervis Public Library Children's Room
> Rome, NY 13440
>
> Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus
handicapped.
> - Elbert Hubbard
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From: "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: kids vote, respect books & Narnia too
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:07:43 CST
Hello, all! Hope you had a special holiday. The following
messages were
lost in cyberspace sometime last week so I'm re-posting.
1- Hello, again! A woman was in last week looking for books that her
4th
grade daughter could read. She's going through a period of being very
disrespectful to her parents & other adults. The mom was looking
for books
that showed characters respecting each other or ones that dealt with respect
being an admirable thing. We looked at the Children's Book of Virtues,
and
she took it, but is looking for more substantial stuff. Any ideas?
You can
respond to me directly & I'll post any answers I get. TIA.
Have a great
week.
2- Hello, all! Happy Children's Book Week. We just had the kids
vote
(10/29-11/9) for their favorite books & authors. We told them that
the
favorite book did not have to be by their favorite author. I explained
that
A Christmas Carol is my favorite book, but Beverly Cleary is my favorite
author. :O) 88 kids took us up on it & these were the
results. I thought
you'd be interested:
1- JK Rowling was voted the favorite author for 9-12 year olds
2- Marc Brown was the favorite author for 5-8s
1- R.L. Stine was the 2nd favorite author for 9-12s
2- Dr. Seuss was the 2nd favorite author for the 5-8 year olds
1- EB White was voted the 3rd favortie author for 9-12 year olds
2- Else Minarik was voted the 3rd favorite author for 5-8s
1- Harry Potter won the vote for favorite books for 9-12 year olds
2- Clifford was the big winner as the favorite book for 5-8 year olds
1- Charlotte's Web took 2nd for favorite book for 9-12 year olds
2- Mary Kate & Ashley won 2nd place for favorite book for 5-8 year olds
We made a display of the winners books with ribbons on them. We'll
also
have a certificate printed up for each of the first place winners & will
be
mailing them out to the appropriate authors. On Saturday there will be
a
program for the kids with readings from these authors/books.
Have a great week! Let me know if you have any questions about the
above.
Take care,
3- In a few weeks (December 1) I will be having a Narnia program. We
were
going to Mad Libs a passage from one of the books, play some charades, and
then go on a treasure hunt. Any other ideas on things we can do?
What have
you done at your libraries? The treasure hunt items as well as the
charades
words will likely be the same. I may throw in the option of having
them
draw the words instead of acting them out if it's easier for them. As
usual, I'll post responses. Thanks!
Now you're caught up. Thanks for reading this. Take care!
Richard :)
Richard Bryce
Senior Children's Librarian
West Milford Township Library
973-728-2823
bryce@palsplus.org
"To want in one's head to do a thing, for it's own sake; to enjoy doing
it;
to concentrate all of one's energies upon it- - that is not only the surest
guarantee of it's success. It is also being true to oneself."
(Amelia Earhart, in Sky Pioneer)
"So many things have made living and learning easier. But the
real things
haven't changed. It is still best to be honest and truthful; to make the
most of what we have; to be happy with simple pleasures and to be cheerful
and have courage when things go wrong"- Laura Ingalls Wilder
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From: Robyn Lupa <rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'yalsa-bk@ala.org'"
<yalsa-bk@ala.org>,
Subject: Purchasing non-print materials
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:08:18 CST
I posed the following question to PUBLIB, PUBYAC, and YALSA-BK. Here are the
compiled responses:
I am investigating how and why public libraries purchase non-print materials
for older young adults (10-12 grade, or 16-18 years old).Non-print materials
include: DVDs, videos, music CDs and software. If you have experience with
these acquisitions, I would appreciate your insights on selection tools
used, how and where these items are shelved, and their popularity within
your library. Please respond to me personally at: rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us
* I just wanted to let you know that I use www.libraryvideo.com
to
select (and usually order) materials such as videos and CD-ROMS (they also
have DVD and I believe audio books but we use Recorded Books for that). I
find the site easy to use, you can make carts to print, fax, or send via
email, and also save for future reference, the people I have been in contact
with there are always nice and helpful (even when we have had to return
damaged materials...no problems at all!), you can also sign up for a
collection management program where they keep track of what has been ordered
from your library, and one of the best features is that they have reviews
&
recommendations on their site, like if it is an award winner, etc.
* Why do we buy these materials? Because teens want them and because
it also sometimes brings teens in who might otherwise not use the library.
What do we use for selection tools - everything we can get our hands on:
magazines aimed at teens, Billboard charts, teen patron suggestions, etc. At
SFPL's Main Library, I have VHS, CDs, tapes, books-on-tape in my Teen
Center's collection. These are small collections with huge teen appeal
(especially anime videos and music).
* I am not a youth librarian, but I can tell you that we do have a
budget in our library for AV materials for youth. Why purchase? We figure
that since they're library customers, too, we should have things that
interest them. I buy adult AV materials, and I like to get suggestions of
hot musical groups and hip movies the young adults are interested in. Our
VHS/DVD collection is split into 2 parts: JUV VC or JUV DVD, which are
generally half hour shorts and Disney cartoons, and plain old DVD or VHS.
These are for adults or family. Movies purchased for teens are shelved in
this area. The same for CDs. There is a section for kids CDS, which does
include a CD POP collection. Some CDs, like Backstreet Boys, N Sync, &
Jennifer Lopez, are put into the JUV CD area. Shelved right next to JUV CDs
are adult CDs. Kids can look for their faves in the adult POP or RAP or
JAZZ/BLUES as well.
* We purchase lots of YA books on tape and CD. They weren't
circulating from special displays in the YA Reading Room (which is a
browsing paperback collection and internet access terminals). So, we
moved
them to the same area the J fiction books on tape/CD were and they go out.
Often checked out by families for car trips--occasionally for YA's with
reading problems and assignments due.
* All of the CD's that I have in my collection are from donations. I
have a binder in the YA section where teens can add items that they would
like me to order. They wanted CD's more than anything so that is what I
spent the money on. We don't have a budget for CD's for adults or teens so
there are hardly any CD's for adults. The CD's are never in in the YA
section. They are always checked out. I have about 50 to 75 CD's. We had a
make-up artist come and give makeovers for teens. All of the money the
make-up artist made she donated to me for the YA section. Videos are in the
same boat. No budget. I do buy them with book money though. I usually get
videos on eating disorders, driving, more educational than entertaining.
DVD's aren't even a consideration. The CD's are performers like Destiny's
Child, Back Street Boys, Britney Spears, and Mandy Moore.
* I purchase CD's and videos for our YA area. At the moment, the CD's
don't circulate (we have five listening stations), but they will as soon as
we get shelving to place them in. I get most of my titles as suggestions
from my Teen Advisory Board, which this year and last year has members in
grades 7-11. I also keep an ear open for reviews of movies which seem to
have teen appeal. These reviews include newspaper and magazine reviews and
word of mouth. I also use the Internet Movie Database extensively. There is
an area in which members may rate movies. The votes are broken down by age
and gender. So if a significant number of people under 18 have positively
rated a movie, I consider it strongly. If someone on my TAB suggests a movie
and I find that very few teens have voted on it, or that the rating is
pretty low, I generally use that as a guideline. As for CD's, I try to talk
to the kids who come in, especially kids who using the listening station. I
ask them for suggestions and tell them they can leave me a list. I've gotten
several responses that way. I also use more traditional "Top 25"
or "Top 10"
lists.
* As an answer to your question, I purchase recent and the most
popular music CD's for our library which are always in demand. The kids like
them because usually they only like one or two songs and it saves them
money. By having them at our library, I notice that after a while the kids
check out the magazines and eventually even books!
* I have a pretty sizeable collection of CD's in my YA collection, and
it generates the most circulation for sure. I started it a couple of years
ago from nothing, and have had a great time with it, relying primarily on my
Teen Advisory Committee to help me with selection. They're a 12-member
group of middle and high schoolers, and have shown good judgment about
recommendations. After initial debate about whether or not to include
parental advisory albums, I decided that I would, although some stuff is
just plain too raunchy or offensive for me. Actually, some of the kids were
more conservative than I was about that issue of whether to buy
"cleaned-up"
versions. Other selection tools I use are patron requests (both kids and
adults), brainstorming with classes I visit, CD reviews by teens in our
local Sunday paper, good old Amazon, and my 22-year old son. So you can see
that it's all a bit serendipitous--and fun too. I haven't had any
complaints, knock on wood. It's probably only a matter of time. But
the
fact that we have such an eclectic mix of music represented really appeals
to the teens who come into the library, and many who only come in to use
email and chat end up borrowing CDs and thinking of the library differently
as a result. I could send you a list of what we have if you're interested,
although it quickly becomes out of date because of loss and new purchases. I
have the CDs in baskets, randomly, near the teen magazines. They're
cataloged, but it doesn't make any sense for us to try to keep them in
order, and I think patrons enjoy browsing through them as much as anything.
* I will respond to your initial question with some basics about what
we do in the St. Charles Parish Library system. For reference purposes, we
are a public library system composed of four branches (with a fifth under
construction) and one bookmobile, serving a semi-rural population of
approximately 50,000 people in the greater New Orleans area. The only
non-print resources currently in our collection are audiobooks on CD and
cassette, videos on VHS only (though we are actively contemplating DVD), and
our computer workstations, which include internet access, subscription
databases and a variety of installed software. The software came pre-loaded
as part of Gates Library Foundation Grant, so we had little to do with the
selection of those titles, aside from deciding to either accept or deny
them. Before the advent of that GLF grant however, we already had a few
public workstations in each branch to provide internet access, and were
actively considering adding some reference titles and office applications in
response to patron requests. The number of requests we were getting at that
point were obviously just the tip of the iceberg in terms of interest and
popularity. Even just focusing on teens, and disregarding the extensive use
by adult and child patrons, these workstations would get frequent use during
the after-school hours and weekends. It is difficult to say exactly how much
of the workstation use is divided between software applications vs. general
internet vs. subscription databases, especially since often there is a
combination of the three within a patron session, but the most popular
applications among the teens are Microsoft Word and Encarta Encyclopedia. We
are just now coming to the end of the grant period, and will begin
evaluating which applications to retain and which to drop or perhaps add to
our current array. Obviously there are no shelving concerns with this
format, since we only provide access to them on our workstations and do not
circulate them for home use.The subscription databases are identified,
evaluated and acquired by a subdivision of our state library (i.e.,
Louisiana Library Network), though that body does accept and solicit
feedback on the products currently included in the suite and requests for
future additions. These database titles include:
Bowker's Books In Print
Ulrich's International Periodicals Directory
Ancestry.com (genealogy)
EBSCOhost (general interest periodical articles)
Facts.com (news digest & almanac)
World Book Online Encyclopedia
Poem Finder (poetry index & info)
ProQuest (local newspaper articles)
SIRS Researcher (social issues articles)
SIRS Discoverer (elementary version of Researcher)
SIRS Government Reporter (articles by & about govt.)
SIRS Renaissance (arts & humanities articles)
GaleNet Discovering Collection (in-depth content in various
subjects)
Literature Resource Center (literary bio & criticism)
Scribner Writers Series (literary bio & criticism)
Twayne's Authors Series (literary bio & criticism)
Biography Resource Center + The Complete Marquis Who's Who
General Reference Center Gold (general interest periodical
articles)
Health Reference Center-Academic (health/medical articles)
General BusinessFile ASAP (business articles & profiles)
Expanded Academic ASAP (scholarly journal articles)
National Newspaper Index (major national newspapers)
Since there is obviously a huge scope of coverage here, we don't yet
see any need to supplement this suite. We do get statistics on local usage
of some of these but those numbers are obviously not age-specific. No
shelving concerns here either. FYI, we don't currently filter internet
access on any of our workstations, though we are looking into it in case
CIPA holds up in court. For audiobooks I generally select titles based on
local school reading lists, interest in the print version, specific
requests, and ALA's annual Notable Recordings list. To evaluate the audio
versions themselves, especially if there are multiple recordings of the same
title, I usually look for reviews via the online Books In Print, Amazon.com
and/or vendor websites (predominantly reprints from _School Library
Journal_, _AudioFile_ and _Kliatt_). In cases where I can locate no reviews,
or if the reviews do not indicate a clear preference, I check to see if
there is an audio sample from the title in question on the publisher's web
site (Books-On-Tape and the Random House imprints are pretty good about
having excerpt available for download). Due to the likelihood of crossover
interests (in both directions) we shelve teen and adult audiobooks
interfiled together, but we do put a hot pink "YA" spine-label on
the teen
titles for quick identification. It's probably not surprising that
audiobooks are popular among teen patrons but unfortunately we do not
currently separate circulation statistics for audiobooks by age group.
Finally, for videos, I follow similar identification and evaluation
procedures to those I use for audiobooks, but also regularly read _Video
Librarian_ for current releases. _Video Librarian_ also offers an online
access option to which I we will begin subscribing with our annual renewal,
which I anticipate will be an excellent database of searchable reviews for
backlist titles. Since we don't collect Hollywood releases as a general
rule, that narrows down the field quickly. Although I do pursue many
different outlets, my single favorite vendor is Library Video Company
because of their excellent online catalog which consistently includes
excerpts (and sometimes full-text) of reviews from a variety of sources, as
well as indicators of awards won. We also handle the shelving of
teen-oriented videos in the same way we do audiobooks and, while the
popularity of video is evident from anecdotal experience, usage statistics
are similarly not age-specific.
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At the same time, I posed questions to individual library systems. Here are
the compiled responses:
I recently posted a question to PUBYAC, PUBLIB, and YALSA-BK which reads:
I am investigating how and why public libraries purchase non-print materials
for older young adults (10-12 grade, or 16-18 years old). Non-print
materials include: DVDs, videos, music CDs and software. If you have
experience with these acquisitions, I would appreciate your insights on
selection tools used, how and where these items are shelved, and their
popularity within your library. Please respond to me personally at:
rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us
I wanted to write to you specifically, since I noticed that you highlight
the availability of non-print materials on your teen website. I would
greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond to a few questions:
* Are non-print materials for YAs shelved in your young adult room or
area? Are they near the YA print collection?
* Only Audio Books (tape and CD) are shelved near the YA book
collection. Videos, Games and CDs are shelved at the front of the
library
near the Circ Desk with materials for all ages in the same format. We do not
have Games yet, collection in process!
* We shelve non-print with YA--that is: Books on tape, YA
non-fiction and feature videos. The music CD's for YA are shelved with
the
adult collection which is right next to our YA room.
* Videos are virtually all educational videos and are
cataloged and interfiled with our nonfiction collection. They are easy
to
spot because they, unlike books, have a hot pink dot on the spine that says
"YA." Recorded books, CDs, and Computer software are each on
designated
shelves near entrances to the department.
* Yes, all YA materials are together. The audiotapes and
audio-CD's are shelved with the videos on face out shelves. They are flanked
by music CDs and a display shelf. Print materials are across the room (only
12 feet away) and paperback spinners are a mere 3 feet away.
* If so, how do you distinguish non-print items as YA vs.adult? Do you
purchase duplicate copies of some items for both collections?
* CD's are shelved by category, then alphabetical by author
(or title, for collections or soundtracks). Most teen interest items
are
pop-rock or soundtrack. Other categories are Classical, Instrumental, Jazz,
Country, Vocal, Children's, World, and Misc. We purchase duplicates of
popular items, such as Britney Spears. We have yet to have a parent complain
about a CD their teen has checked out. No videos are designated YA, although
we purchase many that appeal to that age
* The YA material has a YA sticker and is designated in the
computer in order to find it. Yes we do purchase some duplicate
titles.
* All YA material has a Y at the beginning of the spine label.
In the catalog, it is designated YOUNGADULT as its location. Only YA
materials are shelved in the YA department, so distinguishing it from adult
materials is not a problem. All our non-print materials also have a
hot
pink dot on the spine, above the spine label, so it is immediately obvious
to circulation staff that it belongs to our department. Duplicates...Yes, a
few. We no longer buy music on cassette at all. Every 2 months,
we buy one
copy of each item on the Billboard Top 100 list (that we don't already own
from the time before), and the adult department for music also buys multiple
copies. Branches also buy those items. Videos are mostly one or
the other,
as are recorded books. Computer software is often owned in both
places.
* All YA materials have a bright Demco YA sticker on them,
both on the spine and on the lower left hand corner. I occasionally buy
duplicate materials. For example, there is a copy of The Lord of the Rings
series on audiobook to anticipate the movie.
* Which, if any, are the most popular non-print formats with your teen
patrons?
* ALL non-print formats are popular! Start with CDs to draw
teens in, then add other formats, such as games or videos. Books on CD
are
increasing in popularity.
* I haven't purchased any DVD's yet. I would like to purchase
Books on CD but the variety of choice is small so far for YA title. Most
popular formats: CDs and videos. Hard to really know since we haven't
purchased DVDs yet. My 22 yr. Old only thinks in terms of DVDs. While my 17
yr old still at home is willing to put up with videos.
* CDs
* Hands down would be the music CD. In the two years since I
started working there, that has been the most requested material. I began
the collection with 15 last year and through scrimping and saving, we now
have over 100, but unfortunately almost one third is already gone - stolen
or not returned. There are never very many in and the suggestion box is
crammed weekly with requests for more music CD's.
* How are these materials acquired (for example, by a collection
coordinator, by YA librarians, by the library manager)? What selection tools
are used?
* I write orders for YA CDs, Games, Audio Books, and have
final purchasing power. I give recommendations to the Reference librarian
who purchases videos & DVDs. We order CDs & Videos & DVDs
online, via ACE
OneStop. Budgets are as follows: CD: $3000; Audio Books $1000; Games $1000;
Videos/DVD??? We purchase these items because they are in demand, and we are
a popular materials library. My personal philosophy is to give teens
what
they want and solicit their ideas and input as often as possible. Selection
Tools: For CD collection development, I look for reviews in teen magazines,
like Teen People, Seventeen, Rolling Stone, etc. I use Baker & Taylor
Spotlight, MTV's website, and Billboard to see what is popular, and when
release dates are for specific CDs. I also invest some time in watching TRL
on MTV and listening to local pop radio to get a feel for what is popular
and what I should consider adding to our collection. Patron requests are
weighed heavily, but I pride myself in knowing my clientele and having
orders in for new materials before they get requested. I purchase new albums
by familiar artists over newer debut albums, and only buy PA (explicit
lyric) versions of CDs. For Audio Books, I use reviews in journals:
Booklist, VOYA, etc, as well as sources such as catalogs and amazon.com.
Games are selected by popularity, by request, by reviews in game magazines
like POC Gamer, Nintendo Power, Electronic Gaming Monthly and catalogs, such
as Crimson Multimedia. For videos/DVD, popularity and requests take
precedence. The ordering librarian has catalogs and review sources at
her
disposal. We have been getting lots of requests for anime, and have
sectioned off a section for anime videos like Sailor Moon, Ranma 1/2, Oh My
Goddess, and Dragonball Z.
* I share the collection development of non-materials with the
reference. I buy all the books on tape and videos
* By YA librarians. Selection tools used: Booklist, Billboard
Top 100, School Library Journal, Publisher's Weekly, publisher's marketing.
* Music CD's - teen recommendations, what I hear on the top
five at five on WCYY, the local alternative radio, or what is hot in Rolling
Stone and Spin magazine and then I throw in a few of my faves - Morphine,
Beatles, Tori Amos, and see if they get checked out. Yup they do. Also I buy
radio edit from our local music store, Bull Moose, - the manager loves
us
because no one else will buy it. He is also a great source for what to buy.
I found they give us a far better discount than Baker and Taylor and I
strongly feel we should support local businesses where possible. Audio's -
AudioFile reviews, SLJ, and usually I buy mostly Listening Library or
Recorded Books anyway so I can count on the production being good. Don't
even bother buying abridged. I buy a mix of CD and tape. Video's - Our
library has no money for videos so the few I have bought have been sure hits
- Ever After, Romeo + Juliet, stuff I know has staying power. Mostly I
depend on donations. I hope this changes. I only buy Rated pg-13 and lower.
I use SLJ and VOYA reviews when I get grant money to buy topic videos -
health, college, etc. Also I plan to purchase both video and DVD when I get
a budget.
* Please include any other insights to collecting non-print materials
for young adults that I may have forgotten to ask. Thanks so much for taking
the time to respond.
* Our library used to circulate software but the theft rate
was very very high. We may reconsider in the future. I'd like to buy
Nintendo and other video games used and start a collection but the budget is
up in the air. Don't know when it will be settled. The Friends had planned
on purchasing portable CD players to be for borrowing and in house use but I
still haven't heard what is up with that. Our library opened in 1999 so some
things are still being debugged. I mostly rely on professional reviews for
books and on popular opinion for popular items, like the graphic novels and
the A/V items.
Robyn Lupa
Head, Children's Services
Jefferson County Public Library - Arvada Branch
Arvada, Colorado
(303) 205-1585
rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us
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