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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 661


    PUBYAC Digest 661

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) re: Library card age/Thanks
by Amy Blake <ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us>
  2) shelving for picturebook/cassette bagged sets
by Kathleen Pine <KPine@epl.ca>
  3) Re: Age limit on library cards
by nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com>
  4) Re: Dinosaur craft ideas needed
by Nancy Berghoef <holnb@llcoop.org>
  5) Re: board books
by "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
  6) Newsletter request
by RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  7) RE: Age limit on library cards
by Tina Shelton <Tina.Shelton@cityofcarrollton.com>
  8) Re: Dinosaur craft ideas needed
by "Heather Robinson" <heather@elgin.net>
  9) RE: Clickart, Clip Art or Graphics for teen publicity
by crortvedt@apl.org
 10) Internet - multiple users???
by Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
 11) RE: board books
by "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
 12) Toll-free Dial-a-Story
by "Solina Marquis" <solina-marquis@attbi.com>
 13) Re: Dinosaur craft ideas needed
by Susan Fisher <sfisher@lib.williamson-tn.org>
 14) Stumper: Crab & Stingray
by Cathie Bashaw <missbook72@yahoo.com>
 15) Dr. somebody's Adventures? stumper
by Kristen Wiley <kwiley@lakeline.lib.fl.us>
 16) Central ordering
by Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
 17) Stumper:  Fatherless children
by Janis Marshall <janis.marshall@mpl.on.ca>
 18) Mailing address for postcards
by Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
 19) Stumper: Ghost in cemetary
by Kim Olson-Kopp <k.olson-kopp@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>

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From: Amy Blake <ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: re: Library card age/Thanks
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:17 CST

Dear Pubyacers,

Thank you to everyone who responded to my query about what age can a child
receive a library card.  Many of your responses brought up some factors we
had
not considered before.  No matter what we end up deciding your assistance
helped us to make a more informed choice.  Thanks Yacers!

Amy Blake
ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us

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From: Kathleen Pine <KPine@epl.ca>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: shelving for picturebook/cassette bagged sets
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:22 CST

Hi All,

We will be moving into a new building this summer and are having a difficult
time finding a good piece of shelving for our  picturebook/tape bagged sets.
I have seen the hanging racks in the supply catalogues but have been told
that the bags often fall off of these and get quite messy.  We would like
something that is practical but also neat and attractive, too.  I would
really appreciate any suggestions that anyone might have.

Thanks in advance,

Kathleen

Kathleen Pine
Youth Services Librarian
Southgate Branch
48 Southgate Centre
51 Avenue & 111 Street
Edmonton, AB T6H 4M6
Tel: (780) 496-8339
Fax: (780) 496-7007
kpine@epl.ca

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From: nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Age limit on library cards
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:28 CST

Hi Amy,
Our policy is that children can get a card when they can write their first
and last names on the registration card; sometimes we have children as young
as 3 getting a card!!!
Good luck....


Nadine


***********************************************************
                     Nadine Lipman
                Head of Children's Services
                  Waterford Public Library
                   Waterford, CT 06385
               email:  booklover32@yahoo.com

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From: Nancy Berghoef <holnb@llcoop.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Dinosaur craft ideas needed
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:33 CST

We're going to make "cerealosauruses" in a few weeks.  Cut out a cardboard
dinosaur shape- we're using bright orange, yellow and green.  The kids glue
a
variety of cereal to it.

Gretchen Krieger wrote:

> Hi Everyone-
>
> I am doing a "dinosaur" storytime for 3-5 year olds.   I was wondering if
> anyone has any unique craft ideas they like to share.
>
> Thanks,
> Gretchen Olearczyk
> Kenmore Branch Public Library
> Kenmore NY
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From: "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: board books
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:39 CST

Lorraine,
When I was at a branch, I put mine in white plastic crates on the floor =
where toddlers could reach them.  They were in no particular order. =
However, I did go through them from time to time and stack them so the =
covers could be seen and they could be rummaged through easily.  Also, I =
placed an item note in the record of each board book indicating "Board =
Book," so if we were looking for a specific title for a patron, we could =
tell right away that it was in one of the bins.  At the main library, they =
are put in small racks on top of the regular JP shelves, along with other =
smaller-than-usual books (like Noisy Nora, etc.).  We do not put notes on =
their records, thought, which makes it harder to find titles sometimes.=20

Cindy Rider
Young Peoples Associate Librarian.
Vigo Co. Public Library
Terre Haute, IN
crider@vigo.lib.in.us      http://www.vigo.lib.in.us/yp/yp.html

"It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular=20
level I'm really quite busy." -Unknown

>>> lgetty1969@yahoo.com 01/21/02 11:12AM >>>
Hello all,

I was wondering how other libraries shelve their board
books for young children.  Ours are in rather ratty
plastic stacking bins (just tossed in) that are at
least somewhat organized by call number (A-G; H-L,
etc).  But the bins are in bad condition - I'm not
satisfied with way they look and I don't like that the
books on the bottom bins are not very visible.  I need
to replace them, and I'm exploring my options.  Are
those of you who keep them on shelves satisfied with
that arrangement, or do they just slide all over the
place?  Do any of you use nicer containers, and if so,
what?

Thanks in advance,
Lorraine Getty
Forsyth Public Library
Forsyth, Illinois

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From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: Young Adult Library Services Association List <yalsa-l@ala1.ala.org>,
   "'tagad-l@topica.com'" <tagad-l@topica.com>,
   "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Newsletter request
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:44 CST

Hi, everyone...

I would like to collect a variety of newsletters intended for the young
adult audience to share at a conference session about writing YA
newsletters.  Online and paper versions are both needed.  If your
library newsletter has a page just for teens, that would be helpful
too.  If you would like to contribute, please snail mail a paper copy or
email a link to your Internet newsletter to me before the end of
February.

Thanks so much!
RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library
655 Main ST
Coshocton, OH 43812
honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us


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From: Tina Shelton <Tina.Shelton@cityofcarrollton.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Age limit on library cards
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:50 CST

Amy,

In our library system, a child of ANY age can get a library card.  However,
the parent is the person who fills out the application and decides if the
child can check out videos and have internet access.  Parental control is in
place for the child until the child turns 18 & is responsible for his/her
own card.  Also, we have circulation software that can tie the child's
account to the parent's account so the parent can keep track of potential
fines, etc.

If you have any other questions, let me know.

Tina

Tina Shelton
Youth Services Librarian
Frankford Village Library
Carrollton, TX
(972)466-4824
tina.shelton@cityofcarrollton.com

"Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings."
Heinrich Heine, from his play Almansor (1821)

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From: "Heather Robinson" <heather@elgin.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Dinosaur craft ideas needed
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:09:56 CST

Gretchen,

I have an adorable hat that the children put together with a dinosaur nose
and feet attached.  When do you need it?  If you've got a week or so I could
send you a sample.  It is always a hit whenever I make it with the little
ones.

Heather Robinson
heather@elgin.net
St. Thomas Public Library
St. Thomas, Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gretchen Krieger" <gkrieger91@hotmail.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: Dinosaur craft ideas needed


>
>
> Hi Everyone-
>
> I am doing a "dinosaur" storytime for 3-5 year olds.   I was wondering if
> anyone has any unique craft ideas they like to share.
>
> Thanks,
> Gretchen Olearczyk
> Kenmore Branch Public Library
> Kenmore NY
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com

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From: crortvedt@apl.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Clickart, Clip Art or Graphics for teen publicity
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:10:01 CST

We use "Art Explision:  600,000 images."  It's a set of 29 CD-Roms and was
very inexpensive, around $80.00.  The web site is
http://www.novadevelopment.com/mainus/products/aqw/index.htm.  I have had
more luck with teen graphics here than the microsoft clip art. 

Colleen Rortvedt
Young Adult Assistant
Appleton Public Library

-----Original Message-----
From: Ziman, Holly [mailto:HZiman@ci.burbank.ca.us]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:21 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Clickart, Clip Art or Graphics for teen publicity


Does anyone know of a good website or a great title that has good teen
graphics?  Our graphics dept. sometimes gets stumped when looking for
artwork or click/clip art for publicity flyers and posters, etc.
Specifically, we are looking for a teen at a microphone who is speaking --
shouldn't be too hard to find??  Thanks.

Holly Ziman, Burbank P.L.

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From: Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Internet - multiple users???
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:10:07 CST

Dear collective mind:

Our Youth Dept. is pondering changing our Internet policy to allow only
the individual actually signed up for the terminal to sit there (except
for a parent/child).  We've had various problems with groups of children
hanging out together and crowding the terminals.  We've discussed allowing
kids in certain situations to sit in groups, but there are obvious
problems - we don't want to invade privacy and ask the nature of their
inquiry, nor do we want to get a game of guessing which situations are
"ok" and which are not.  It seems easiest at this point to make a blanket
policy change.

Anyone out there wrestle with kind of policy?  ANy advice?  TIA

Erin

* # @ * # @ * # @ * # @ * # @ * # @

  Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth/Young Adult Services Librarian
Royal Oak Public Library
  222 E. 11 Mile Rd. 
  Royal Oak MI 48067

Phone: 248.246.3734
Fax:   248.246.3705
Email: helmrich@tln.org  

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From: "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: board books
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:10:12 CST

We place ours in a rolling compartmentalized cart at the end of the
regular stacks. It is not
kept in any particular order. There are two levels to the cart and all
of the books face
front, and can be browsed by flipping. Our lower level is less visible
as well, but we rotate
them from time to time. We use the same type of rolling cart for new j.
books also.
Laura Gruninger, Youth Services
Mercer County Library System, Lawrence HQ
Lawrenceville, NJ

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Lorraine Getty
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:12 AM
To: PUBYAC
Subject: board books


Hello all,

I was wondering how other libraries shelve their board
books for young children.  Ours are in rather ratty
plastic stacking bins (just tossed in) that are at
least somewhat organized by call number (A-G; H-L,
etc).  But the bins are in bad condition - I'm not
satisfied with way they look and I don't like that the
books on the bottom bins are not very visible.  I need
to replace them, and I'm exploring my options.  Are
those of you who keep them on shelves satisfied with
that arrangement, or do they just slide all over the
place?  Do any of you use nicer containers, and if so,
what?

Thanks in advance,
Lorraine Getty
Forsyth Public Library
Forsyth, Illinois

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From: "Solina Marquis" <solina-marquis@attbi.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Toll-free Dial-a-Story
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:22:52 CST

>From the St. Clair County Library Website at =
http://www.sccl.lib.mi.us/hdqrtrs/services.html#dialstory:

"St. Clair County Library is proud to present Dial-a-Story!  The Youth =
Services Department at the Library Headquarters has implemented a new =
outreach service, available around the clock, which enables callers to =
dial into the Library to hear a story. =20

Simply dial locally 966-9778 or toll-free 877-966-9778 from within St. =
Clair County to hear a short folk tale over the telephone.

 Each week a new story will be featured.  These stories are an =
entertaining addition to the many services that the Library offers for =
children of all ages.  Dial-a-Story is made available through the =
generosity of the Friends of the St. Clair County Library."

I tried the number and found a story!

Solina Marquis


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From: Susan Fisher <sfisher@lib.williamson-tn.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Dinosaur craft ideas needed
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:22:59 CST

We made hatchable dinosaur eggs!  First, blow up balloons with small
plastic dinosaur toy inside each one.  Then let the kids apply newspaper
strips moistened with papier mache glue and let dry for a day.  During
the week between storytimes, the staff added one more papier mache
layer, then the children painted the eggs at their next storytime.  Let
dry and "hatch" the eggs to discover the surprise within.  This was a
BIG hit with our kids!
Susan

Gretchen Krieger wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone-
>
> I am doing a "dinosaur" storytime for 3-5 year olds.   I was wondering if
> anyone has any unique craft ideas they like to share.
>
> Thanks,
> Gretchen Olearczyk
> Kenmore Branch Public Library
> Kenmore NY
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> http://www.hotmail.com

--
Susan Fisher
Bethesda Public Library
4905 Bethesda Road
Thompson Station, TN 37179
615.790.1887
fax: 615.760.8426
sfisher@lib.williamson-tn.org

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From: Cathie Bashaw <missbook72@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Crab & Stingray
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:23:08 CST

Hello,

A patron is desperately searching for the title of a
book that she recalls reading about 20 years ago.  She
remembers that there was a stingray named Nate the
Skate, and a crab who walked backwards named Nivram
(Marvin spelled backwards). If anyone out there has a
clue about the title of this book, please let me know.
Thanks!

Cathie Bashaw, Children's Librarian
Somers Library, New York
missbook72@yahoo.com

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From: Kristen Wiley <kwiley@lakeline.lib.fl.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Dr. somebody's Adventures? stumper
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:23:15 CST

Hi Pubyackers -

A library patron asks me about something she read as a child in the 60's
that she thinks is called "Dr. (insert name here) 's Adventures." It's a
series of short stories, she says, and she remembers one involving a
giraffe with a sore throat, one about a snail, and one about ducks. Any
takers?

Thanks -
Kristen Wiley
Groveland Library, FL

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From: Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Central ordering
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:23:22 CST


Regina Public Library has had centralized ordering of materials for about
8 plus years.  We have a Central library plus 8 branches of various sizes
for a community of about 180,000.

I think it works for us but I may be biased because I am Children's
Collection Coordinator!  I am responsible for all children's collections
in the system.  I see the publisher's rep's and all the catalogues and
send my selections to our Acquisitions dept.

We don't have children's librarians in the branches (sigh!) and our branch
librarians are very busy anyway.

I think the key to making this work is very open lines of communication
and a lot of flexibility.  I ask all staff to send me suggestions, notes
of items which need replacing or are missing etc.  I get emails, scraps of
paper, phone calls and stopped in the coffee room, all of which are great.
I attend program planning meetings, supervisors meetings and sit on as
many library committees as I can, so I can keep in touch with the pulse of
the place.  I also help out on the Central Children's Desk every day.   If
we need something in a hurry I will go out and buy it locally.
Also each branch can go and buy some of their paperbacks.
Where it does become difficult is weeding.  There is no way I can
personally weed nine collections, and the lack of children's librarians
really hurts in this area.

The other drawback is that you have to be really carefull that the
collection does not just reflect your own interests and biases.  With just
one person doing the majority of collection building this is a real
concern.

On the positive side:  almost everything is ordered pre-publication and
all copies at once.  This means we get most things as fast as possible and
it makes cataloguing and processing more efficient.  We also get better
discounts because of "the bulk buying."

I should also mention that we do the same thing with adult materials.  My
colleague is Adult Collections Coordinator and we both report to a
Collections Manager.  We work closely together on budgeting, collections,
weeding, etc.

Having a flexible budget also helps.  If I need more money for a
particular area or collection and can make a good case for it chances are
I will get it, even if "it wasn't in the children's budget."

I hope this helps.

If anyone has any questions I will be happy to answer them.

Claire Isaac
Children's Collection Coordinator
Regina Public Library
Regina, Saskatchewan
Canada
cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca

ph.  (306) 777-6034 fax  (306) 949-7260


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From: Janis Marshall <janis.marshall@mpl.on.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper:  Fatherless children
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:23:30 CST

I have a patron who is looking for picture book(s) dealing specifically
with the subject of children who have no fathers in their lives.  I am
going to ILLO Mom is single and I wish I had my father both of which I
found in A to Zoo.  I don't know if they will help but at least we will
have a look at them.  If anyone out there can think of anything else I
would appreciate it.  Thanks,

Janis Marshall
Milton Public Library
Milton, Ontario

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From: Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mailing address for postcards
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:23:36 CST

Thanks to everyone who has offered to send postcards.
I thought I posted my address earlier, but I guess it
didn't go through.

The Lebanon Public Library
104 East Washington St.
Lebanon IN   46052
Attn:  Christina Johnson

Thanks again!


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From: Kim Olson-Kopp <k.olson-kopp@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Ghost in cemetary
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:23:43 CST

Hi Everyone,

I have another stumper.  This one is from a patron who remembers reading
a children's novel about 10-15 years ago.  The front cover showed a
cemetery with a big statute/grave and a girl walking next to it.  The
story was about a boy who lived next door to the cemetery and he notices
this girl, who ends up being a ghost.

Any ideas will be welcome!

Thank you,
Kim Olson-Kopp
La Crosse Public Library
La Crosse, Wisconsin

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