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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 735
PUBYAC Digest 735
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: wild children in storytime
by "Lori Karns" <lkarns@rain.org>
2) Read aloud help thank you!
by "Brendle Wells" <bwells@mail.sacramento.lib.ca.us>
3) Young Adult Librarian Position at McKinney, TX
by "Lisa Bailey" <lbailey@mckinneytexas.org>
4) Re: wild children in storytime
by "Baker's" <bakernj@cbpu.com>
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From: "Lori Karns" <lkarns@rain.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: wild children in storytime
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:43:41 CDT
Hi, Kathy
All the management books in the world weren't as smart as my mom. Her
comments were wonderful as I struggled with my own kids and all the kids I
had in storytimes over the years. In a nutshell....
1. You have the inalienable right to have order in your family (and
storytimes).
2. Others depend on you maintaining that order for them to enjoy life and
thrive.
3. A two year old is sure he or she is the boss until someone else teaches
them otherwise.
4. We teach kids manners and enforce the behavior for their benefit, so they
will have friends and be accepted in other people's homes (or storytimes).
5. Two year olds learn social skills and self control at home. Not in
storytime, though we'd like to think they do.
So, I've started storytimes with the following message to all the parents
there...
"Thank you for bringing your children to storytime. As you know, this is a
time for all of us to share stories and enjoy each other's company. We have
a wide range of ages here, and not all children will have the skills to
participate. That's fine as long as they are not distracting others. If a
child IS disrupting the storytime, feel free to whisk them away (to the back
of the room or outside the storytime room). It happens all the time and
don't feel self-conscious about it. Likewise, I may ask you to help me
maintain order by removing a wiggly one from the group." (friendly smile)
If the parent doesn't maintain control, then I talk to them in private. I
have said something like the following..."I'm glad you and (kid's name)
have
made a point of coming to storytime. It's an excellent routine to establish
as early as they have the skills to participate. I've noticed that (kid's
name) is, right now, very interested in exploring the library and the
objects I bring to storytime - have you noticed that too? That's a wonderful
part of that stage of growth. But there are some other skills that he will
need to learn to continue attending, and so I'm asking for you to take the
lead and help him learn, maybe one storytime skill a week. Would you be able
to help me in that? Let's start with property rights. I noticed he is
coloring on other children's work, and he wants to play with the storytime
equipment. If you'll teach him at home, let's see how he does next week."
The next week - I praise for his good demonstration of the skills. I comment
to Mom how well he did. If he didn't, then I'll say "Do you think he may be
still a little young to learn that skill? If so, it might be better if you
wait to bring him to storytime until he's a little older." It would take a
hardened mom to insist on bringing a child, but if they did, I'd be more
frank and say - wait until he's three or four.
Sometimes I suspected there were learning disorders but I NEVER would tell
the parent. If the parent was asking for information, I treated it as a
reference question and gave information from the collection and referral
numbers to professionals in the field.
I hope this helps. I feel your pain.
Lori Karns
Ventura County Library
805 641-4449
lkarns@rain.org
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From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org
[mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Kathleen Gasi
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:03 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: wild children in storytime
Since I sometimes unintentionally lack tact, I need your help on how to
approach a storytime mom. First, allow me vent!! Today was the
Tuesday
storytime's first session for the spring, and the group would have been fine
with the exception of two little boys, ages 2 & 2 1/2 one of whom was
especially wild (interestingly the two families knew each other). Behavior
by the two included touching my props even though I politely indicated that
wasn't appropriate to the extent that my freckled frogs were without their
speckled log when it came time to do the flannel board, coloring other kids'
crafts and constant running around with mom chasing after (in all the
storytimes I've done, I've never seen a child make his mother look so
foolish!). The bottom line is, the one child is definitely not ready for
storytime. He paid no attention to any of the activities, stories or
otherwise, and distracted everyone else. For "PR" purposes I feel the
Mom
should be given another chance before being told for certain that her son
isn't ready to attend but I also want to nip this in the bud a.s.a.p
especially since I don't want the other families to get fed up and stop
coming (it was that bad). As the Mom of a 2 1/2 year-old, I know what
expectations are realistic and which aren't and this kid is way out of line.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO OR SAY (I'd like to talk to the mom BEFORE storytime next
week to make it clear that if he misbehaves again, there won't be a third
week. Thanks!
Kathy Gasi
Madison Public Library
Children's Department
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From: "Brendle Wells" <bwells@mail.sacramento.lib.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Read aloud help thank you!
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:43:48 CDT
Hello...
First, I want to thank all of those
who replied to my request for
read aloud help for my gig at the community faire. Below is a list of all
your suggestions.
What I ultimately decided to do came
from suggestions I got from
Pubyac. What I did was tell the story of the Three Bears (hey, they're a
family!) while volunteers from the audience acted it out. I thought it
would work best for the situation. I am happy to say that it went
fantastic. I couldn't have asked for a better Goldilocks!
Thanks again! You are all a
wonderful resource indeed.
Long Way from Chicago by Peck
Weird Parents by Wood
David's Father by Munsch
Wayside School by Sachar
Anything by San Souci
Tarantula in My Purse by George
Judy Blume or Beverly Cleary Books
Look Out Jack, The Giant is Back! by Birdseye (3 mentions!)
Vinegar Pancakes and Vanishing Cream by Pryor
Master Maid! A Tale of Norway
All About Sam by Lowry
Sorely Trying Day by Hoban
Secret Knowledge of Grownups
Sam and the Tigers
Sylvester and the Magic Pebble by Steig
No David! by Shannon
poetry from Shel Silverstein
Time Warp Trio books
Betsy-Tacy & Tib by Lovelace
Babushka's Doll by Polacco
26 Fairmount Ave by dePaola
Change of Plans by Benjamin
Ramona and her Father by Cleary
Mrs. Katz and Tush by Polacco
Three Wishes by Galdone
Anansi the Spider
Watson's go to Birmingham
Three Bears or Three Billy Goats Gruff--Act it Out!
Little Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly with props
Story of Babaji by Bannerman
Stone Soup by Brown
Old Thunder and Miss Raney by Darrow
book of Coupons by Morgenstern
Airmail to the Moon by Birdseye
Something Good by Munsch
Tooth Gnasher Superflash by Pinkwater
What Cried Granny! by Lum
Junie B Jones
Clarice Bean Books by Child
Table Where Rich People Eat by Baylor
Storytelling Princess by Martin
Bad Day at River Bend by Van Allsburg
Stray Dog by Simont
Brendle Wells
Youth Services Librarian
Carmichael Regional Library
Sacramento Public Library
bwells@sacramento.lib.ca.us
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From: "Lisa Bailey" <lbailey@mckinneytexas.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Young Adult Librarian Position at McKinney, TX
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:43:55 CDT
Please read and consider this great opportunity:
McKinney Memorial Public Library is looking for an enthusiastic and =
creative librarian to join our staff as Young Adult Librarian. This is =
a new position with full support from library administration. We seek =
someone who will get to know our youth, build the collection and =
programs, relate comfortably to both young adults and stodgy co-workers, =
and who can provide a high level of customer service to patrons of all =
ages.=20
Persons interested in applying will find the job description online at:
http://www.mckinneytexas.org/human/prof_tech/Librarian_I.htm.
Information on the application process is at =
http://www.mckinneytexas.org/human/application.htm.
Job #80-040802
THIS POSITION CLOSES MAY 3RD=20
POSITION: LIBRARIAN I - YOUNG ADULT LIBRARIAN
DEPARTMENT: Library
BASE SALARY $39,455/yr
=20
* SUMMARY OF DUTIES: Under general supervision, the purpose of the =
position is to provide professional reference assistance to customers at =
the public reference desk and to provide primary assistance in the area =
of young adult services, including programming and collection =
development. Employee in this classification performs professional =
library work. Position is responsible for assisting customers in the =
use of the library; coordinating young adult services and collection; =
evaluating and maintaining assigned areas; creating and compiling =
reference aids for customers; and planning and implementing young adult =
programs. Performs related work as required.
* PHYSICAL FUNCTIONS: Tasks involve the regular and, at times, =
sustained performance of moderately physically demanding work, typically =
involving some combination of climbing and balancing, stooping, =
kneeling, crouching, and crawling, and that may involve the lifting, =
carrying, pushing, and/or pulling of moderately heavy objects and =
materials (20-50 pounds).=20
* MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: Master's degree in Library Science or closely =
related field; supplemented by one (1) year previous experience and/or =
training involving library reference desk experience; or an equivalent =
combination of education, training, and experience. Proficiency in =
Spanish language desirable
=20
Thank you!
Lisa
Lisa Bailey
lbailey@mckinneytexas.org
Public Services Librarian
972.547.7305
McKinney Memorial Public Library
220 N. Kentucky St.
McKinney, TX 75069
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From: "Baker's" <bakernj@cbpu.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: wild children in storytime
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:44:01 CDT
I have been in the same situation as you. Here is what
I have done in the past:
At my first storytime I announce to the moms, dads,
grandmothers, caregivers, etc. that we strongly
encourage parent/caregiver participation in helping
with crafts etc. I also stress the fact that if your
child becomes a behavior problem to remove the child
from storytime as it is not fair to the other children that
want to listen to the story.
You may make a few parents angry but, oh well.
Sometimes I think they take us for granted and we
are used as babysitters while they go to other areas
of the library or run errands around town!
I hope this helps!
Nola Baker
Branch District Library
Children's Department
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From: "Kathleen Gasi" <kzalargasi2@hotmail.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: wild children in storytime
> Since I sometimes unintentionally lack tact, I need your help on how to
> approach a storytime mom. First, allow me vent!! Today was the
Tuesday
> storytime's first session for the spring, and the group would have been
fine
> with the exception of two little boys, ages 2 & 2 1/2 one of whom was
> especially wild (interestingly the two families knew each other).
Behavior
> by the two included touching my props even though I politely indicated
that
> wasn't appropriate to the extent that my freckled frogs were without their
> speckled log when it came time to do the flannel board, coloring other
kids'
> crafts and constant running around with mom chasing after (in all the
> storytimes I've done, I've never seen a child make his mother look so
> foolish!). The bottom line is, the one child is definitely not ready
for
> storytime. He paid no attention to any of the activities, stories or
> otherwise, and distracted everyone else. For "PR" purposes I feel
the Mom
> should be given another chance before being told for certain that her son
> isn't ready to attend but I also want to nip this in the bud a.s.a.p
> especially since I don't want the other families to get fed up and stop
> coming (it was that bad). As the Mom of a 2 1/2 year-old, I know what
> expectations are realistic and which aren't and this kid is way out of
line.
> WHAT WOULD YOU DO OR SAY (I'd like to talk to the mom BEFORE storytime
next
> week to make it clear that if he misbehaves again, there won't be a third
> week. Thanks!
>
> Kathy Gasi
> Madison Public Library
> Children's Department
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