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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 739


    PUBYAC Digest 739

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Change of "address"
by Sue Jones <sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
  2) Re: Evening Storytime
by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
  3) Re: Circulating Pop-up Books
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
  4) RE: Spirit
by "Watson, Sarah (LIB)" <SarahW@omaha.lib.ne.us>
  5) compilation of volunteer recognition (long)
by Nancy Thelen <nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us>
  6) Flannel Board Responses
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
  7) Evening Storytime Compilation List
by M Cinnella/Gulf Beaches Library <cinnelm@tblc.org>
  8) State Book Awards
by LunarHunk@aol.com
  9) Re: interviews
by "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
 10) music in storytime compiled answers
by Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
 11) RE: Recent "loading kids games on pc's"
by "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
 12) Teen Submissions online reponse
by Jeanne Lohfink <lohfink@wnpl.alibrary.com>

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From: Sue Jones <sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Change of "address"
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:37:16 CDT

Hello all,
 
       Just an FYI to let you all know that the owner/creator of "Big Cozy
Books", maker of book-shaped library furniture, has changed his website
address from a .com to a .net. It now reads:
 
www.bigcozybooks.net <http://www.bigcozybooks.net>
 
Keep an eye out for his new line of YA furniture.
You'll be able to meet Erik Olofson at ALA.
 
Sue Jones
Pleasanton Public Library, CA
Children's Services
(925) 931-3400 x 23

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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Evening Storytime
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I used to serve a treat at Pajama Story Time, but so many of the moms would
take the kids' cookies and save them for the next day, that I stopped.  Most
of the mom's didn't want their kids to have food and/or drink so close to
bedtime.  Also, so many of the kids have dairy allergies or intolerances
that I had to stop serving milk. I now serve lemonade at my programs where
treats are served (Countrytime makes some good mixes, like strawberry
lemonade, etc...)

Lorie
on 4/15/02 11:12 AM, Carrie Silberman at csilberman@nysoclib.org wrote:

> To add to what Carol said about bedtime stories, I also serve milk and
> cookies.  The kids love it!
> Carrie Silberman, Children's Librarian
> New York Society Library
> carrie@nysoclib.org
>

>From now on, I'll connect the dots my own way.
            - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)--

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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Circulating Pop-up Books
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:37:29 CDT


Hi, I'm at a tiny library, so my circulation figures
are pretty small.  I have a couple of hardcover pop-up
books which have each circulated 30 or more times with
only minor (easily fixed) damage.  They've held up
much better than I expected, and I'm thinking of
getting more.
Cathryn
Webster (NH) Free Public Library

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From: "Watson, Sarah (LIB)" <SarahW@omaha.lib.ne.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Spirit
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Donna,

I received as review copies two titles with Spirit of the Cimmaron as the
series:  Sierra and Bonita.  They show different horses on the front covers
so I'm not sure which (if either) is the book for the movie.  They're both
published by Dreamworks and distributed by Penguin Putnam.  According to
Ingram, a book called Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron will be published in
May (ISBN 0525467351 for the hardcover).  The two books I have are regular
chapter books (maybe 4th grade and up) while the picture for the Spirit book
looks like a picture book with 40 pages.

Sarah Watson
Children's Collection Manager
Omaha Public Library
(402) 444-4808
sarahw@omaha.lib.ne.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Ohr [mailto:donnalibrarian@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:20 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Spirit


All,

Does anyone know if the upcoming Dreamworks movie,
"Spirit:Stallion of the Wild Cimmaron" is based on a
book?

Thanks,

Donna Ohr
Librarian I - Children's Services
Rancho San Diego Branch
San Diego County Public Library


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From: Nancy Thelen <nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: "PUBYAC@prairienet.org" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: compilation of volunteer recognition (long)
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Thank you for all the responses. The information is quite useful.
The general consesus seems to be that food is very popular. Of
course there are more tangible gifts as well. Here are the
responses I have received so far.

Thanks again,
Nancy Thelen


 I have young adult volunteers in the summer that help for summer
reading club.  In the past years, I have held pizza parties at
the end of summer reading club.  Last year was a big hit with an
ice cream social.  I sent post cards, with an ice cream theme, as
invitations.  They could bring one guest and i asked for
reservations.  This is also when I presented them with letters
documenting how many hours they volunteered during the summer.  I
gave them a thank you gift and we had door prizes too!

 Rosalyn Reyna-Rodriguez  <rreynaro@ci.hurst.tx.us>
 Hurst Public Library
 901 Precinct Line Road
 Hurst, TX  76053
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Beth Gallaway <bethgallaway@yahoo.com>

We use teens in our computer area to do signups and help patrons
with printing, typing in URLs etc.  After 20 hours of service,
they get a certificate and Teen Cyber Center T-shirt.  Every
June, we hold a volunteer ice cream social - free food, door
prizes, and  another certificate for total of hours worked. I
made the certificates with Print Shop, and used my printer to
make iron on transfers for the t-shirt logos.
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I have worked at two libraries that recognized their volunteers.
Both had pretty much the same procedure.  One library had a nice
dinner on a Friday night (served by the staff in the library
meeting room) and my current employer has a very nice breakfast
at a local country club.  Each library gives the volunteers a
small gift as a token of appreciation.  In addition, the
volunteers are given the honor of having their name put on a
bookplate in the genre of their choice (doesn't cost the library
much--and has been very popular).  As each volunteer comes up to
receive their gift, the director says a few nice words about that
particular person's work and efforts at the library. The
volunteers appreciate the recognition each year.

Barb Fogec bafogec@yahoo.com
Franklin Public Library
9229 W. Loomis Road
Franklin, WI 53132
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We always host our volunteers at a breakfast here in the library
before it opens to the public at 10:00.  We usually do it in Feb
or Mar..This year it was on March 13.  Up until this year we had
it catered; however, this year the staff prepared it ourselves
and cut the cost in half.  Menu included cheese and spinach
strata, fruit, mini muffins (from a local bakery), coffee and
juice.  It was not a big effort on our part and the volunteers
were very impressed with our cooking skills!  We are a fairly
small town and have about 40 volunteers, 25 of whom attended.

Barbara K. Smith
Southern Pines Public Library
170 W. Connecticut Ave.
Southern Pines, NC 28387
(910)692-8235, Ext. 234
bsmith@mail.sppl.net
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Last year, our branch library had an after-hours dinner party for
all of our volunteers. Our decorating expert went all-out with a
Mexican fiesta theme and the staff contributed dishes for the
dinner. At the dinner, our branch  manager recognized each of the
volunteers and gave them each a certificate and and other goodies
(I can't remember now what they were). Everyone had a great time.
It may be that our Friends group helped to fund the dinner party,
but I'm not sure, since some of them were also recognized as
volunteers.

Beverly Bixler
bbixler@sanantonio.gov
San Antonio Public Library, TX
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For our teen volunteers, I show a video and we pig out on pizza.
For our adult (all senior citizens) volunteers, our director
hosts a lovely dinner annually in one of our meeting rooms, and
includes a gift certificate to a nice restaurant as an extra
thank-you.

Toni Reese  <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion, Nebraska
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us
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We invited our vounteers to the Christmas dinner given for staff
by the Board of Trustees.  We also give little gifts for
birthdays and National Volunteer Week.

Susan Engelmann  <suengelm@yahoo.com>
North Kansas City (MO) Public Library
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We have an annual luncheon (usually in June) for volunteers.  The
luncheon is catered and volunteers don't have to pay; however,
any staff who attend (and all staff who work with volunteers are
encouraged to attend) are required to pay.  The luncheon runs
around 1 1/2 hours and, besides eating, includes door prizes
donated by local businesses (for which only volunteers are
eligible) and a guest speaker who gives a 30-45 min. talk on
something of local interest (speakers have been an editor from
the newspaper, a rep. from the historical society, etc.).  The
volunteer coordinator also asks one volunteer from each
department/unit to be nominated as a "volunteer of the year."
The dept. head reads each citation and the volunteer is given a
nice certificate.  Finally, there are lots of freebies on the
tables for volunteers to take, including pens, pencils, pins,
buttons, and plants. The main problem we have had is that it is
difficult for some volunteers and staff to attend at lunchtime on
a weekday.  We have thought of switching  the event to evening or
weekend, but we still run into problems of holding the event when
the library isn't open . . . and nobody could possibly ever be
totally satisfied!  Another problem, especially with a lot of
older volunteers, is coming up with food that people on
restricted diets can eat. One faithful volunteer has never come
because of this.  All in all, though, most volunteers look
forward to the activity every year and enjoy spending time
together. Now, this is for a large county library with 9
branches.  On a smaller  level, many of the branches hold their
own volunteer celebration at other times of the year, usually in
the evening when the library isn't open. At least 2 branches do
this in February, one around Valentine's Day and one around Feb.
25 as a "late Christmas  party" (given that so many people are
too busy in December for such an activity).  These are generally
potluck dinners and much less casual than the luncheon described
above.
Ann W. Moore
Schenectady Co, NY Public Library
scp_moore@sals.edu
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We try to do something annually for our volunteers. One year we
filled "I love my library" plastic bags with a variety of
things...mug, pad of paper, pen, etc. and presented them to the
volunteers at the beginning of a library program celebrating
libraries (done during National Library Week). They also received
certificates. Child volunteers who help in the children's area
were  included in this presentation and bags for them were filled
wilth kid pleasing things. This year we had a luncheon. We
ordered trays of sandwiches, had salad, dessert, and beverage.
Staff acted as hostesses and waitresses. We also gave a music Cd
just released by a group with local connections (wife of one of
the members is one staff and grew up in the town). Child
volunteers weren't included in this, but we had a pizza party for
them instead. The most difficult thing is getting a time when the
volunteers can attend since they tend to have busy schedules. I
find acknowledging the children to be the most difficult since
they not only have their individual busy schedules, but also the
demands of their family.
Nancy Denman        <ndenman@ocln.org>
Head of children's services
Duxbury Free Library
Duxbury, MA 02332
781-934-2721 x115
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Here at Missoula Public Library we honor our volunteers each year
with a breakfast. I'm not sure how long it has been going on, but
many years (I've only been here 10 years).  I know the first year
I worked here the library staff made the food (very simple,
muffins, fresh fruit, the Friends paid for a large ham, juices,
etc.).  The last several years we have had it catered, sticking
with the "continental breakfast", though the last two years we
have added an egg dish. (Next year we are checking into having
one of the non-profit groups catering it, I think we could get
more for our money, and it would be supporting the community.) We
also give each volunteer a simple gift, this year it is a small
planter and seeds, last year it was a pocket calculator, and the
year before it was a nice travel mug.  We also pick one
outstanding volunteer each year (though a couple times we have
picked a group, like last year, we were trying for a mill levy -
which passed - and that whole commitee was named as the Volunteer
of the Year). The volunteer of the year is also recognized on a
placque, which lists all the V of the Y going back many years.

Rita Smith          rita@missoula.lib.mt.us
Missoula Public Library
301 E Main
Missoula, MT 59802
rita@missoula.lib.mt.us
406 721 2665
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lisajo@nwlink.com (Lisa Anderson, Children's Librarian)

The staff at our library is hosting a tea from 2-4 p.m. on April
26th. As you probably know Volunteer Week is April 21-27th.  We
made cute invitation cards using publisher and mailed them out
yesterday.  We will have tea, punch, finger sandwiches, and
dessert.
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We had a volunteer meeting that was really neat.  We are a REALLY
small library and have only a few members of the staff (and not
too many more volunteers).  Each staff member brought an
appetizer (we had the meeting at about 4 p.m.) and then we had a
little "get-to-know-you" session, where each volunteer shared
something that she thought no one else knew.  Then we had a
library "quiz" and trivia contest.  It was slightly corny, I
guess, but everyone had a lot of fun, and I think they'll look
forward to the next get-together

Curry Rose Hoskey
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd
Eastham, MA  02642-3109
jadwigapup@yahoo.com
w)508-240-5950
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I coordinate the volunteers at our library and every year around
Christmas the library staff puts on a huge dinner for them and
their spouses/family. We recognized them for their ours they have
individually volunteered and we donate a book in their name to
the library.  In the spring we have a luncheon and usually give
them a pin or a mug thanking them for their time.

Cara Romeo         <cromeo@sdln.net>
Community Services Librarian
Alexander Mitchell Public Library
519 South Kline Street
Aberdeen, SD 57401
605-626-7097
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We gather our faithful volunteers once a year at one of our
trustees homes on a local lake.  The trustees really do a nice
job of preparing a beautiful luncheon.  Our board chairman always
gives the volunteers an update on issues confronting the board
making the volunteers feel more a part of the process and I give
a talk of appreciation mentioning many by name and giving a brief
history of what they accomplished over the year.  Feedback is
always very positive.
Beryl
gafney@worldpath.net
Beryl/Gafney Library/Sanbornville

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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Flannel Board Responses
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:37:48 CDT

Well, I didn't need to worry about 1st and second
graders being too old for flannel board stories!
Thank you to everyone who shared their success stories
with me.  Several of you mentioned that you use
flannel boards even with fifth or sixth graders, or
older.  One of you said that no one is ever to old for
flannel boards.

Only a couple of respondants suggested that "audience
participation" would be needed with the older kids.

Some of the comments included:  flannel boards are not
used much in the schools, so have the benefit of
novelty; children are fascinated with the way the
figures stick to the board; many flannel board stories
are folktales, which are meant for all ages; don't be
too "cutesy" with the story or the figures with older
children; Judy Sierra's books on flannel board stories
received high praise from many of you.

Thanks again,
Cathryn/Webster Free PL

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From: M Cinnella/Gulf Beaches Library <cinnelm@tblc.org>
To: Pubyac Listserv <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Evening Storytime Compilation List
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:37:55 CDT

Hi again everyone!  Last week I asked for some ideas for an evening
storytime and boy, did I receive a TON of responses and A LOT of great
ideas!  Here's the breakdown of the responses I received:

-most evening storytime's last between 30-45 minutes
-many libraries use the same stories as they would for a daytime
storytime; the daytime and evening programs are identical
-having kids bring their teddies and/or wear their pjs seemed to be a
popular idea
-many libraries incorporate some type of goodnight story into the program
-singing lullabyes was popular
-starting times ranged from 6:30-7:00 pm
-"Family Storytime" was the #1 title, but other titles included
"Sleepytime Stories," "Twilight Tales," "Stories Under the Stars," "Books
for Bedtime"

I want to again thank everyone for their valuable input.  Your suggestions
and ideas were fantastic!  I will adapt everyone's ideas to my needs and
I'm sure my evening storytime will be a success.

Maggie :-)

Maggie Cinnella
Youth Services Librarian
Gulf Beaches Public Library
200 Municipal Drive
Madeira Beach, Florida 33708
727-391-2828 x202 (phone)
727-399-2840 (fax)

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From: LunarHunk@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: State Book Awards
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Hiya, All,

I am the chair of the Rhode Island Teen Book Award, which is in it's second
year this year.  We are looking to formalize things more with the selection
committee.  As a committee we select 20 20-25 titles that teens can read
over the year and vote for a winner each January.

I am looking to get some information about how other state book awards run
their selection processes and how their state awards are run in general.

How do people get on the committee?  How long do they serve?  Do you have a
formula for #s of reps from schools vs public librarians?

Do you have a copyright limit for the books selected? Are recommendations
taken only from the committee or do you get publisher preview copies for
some of the books?  Do the books have any other requirements for selection?

So you have a seal for  the winning books? How much does it take to make up
the tin seals that the libraries get for the winners?  I am thinking about
trying to right a grant to try to get money for the seals.

How do you go about contacting the winner and do you send anything to them
besides a letter?  We sent a letter to the writer and the publisher of the
book as well as a simple certificate that I made up and printed, which was
sent only to the author. Do you give anything else to the author?

Would it be possible to fax your most current list to me at (401) 949-0530?

We are hoping to formalize things with next year's list, and I figured I
could get a jump by learning how you did things. Thanks for any information
you can provide.

Aaron Coutu
Youth Services Librarian
Greenville Public Library

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From: "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: interviews
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Well, times have changed in 14 years, I'd say. I wonder what you CAN =
ask=20
that won't get you into trouble, but will still let you know if the =
interviewee is=20
a person you want to hire?
Cindy

>>> peskorza@yahoo.com 04/15/02 10:12AM >>>
 That's funny. I was just advised by our EEOD director NOT to ask that
question for a search I'm co-chairing.  Has to do with potential
discriminatory/equity issues--they could say they're planning to retire or
move or infer something that would impact their longevity in a position
which could then ultimately work against them in the selection process.
That was one that really surprised me, so I thought I'd just pass on that
alternate perspective.
Adela
  Cindy Rider <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us> wrote: One standard question seems =
to
be "Where do you plan to be in 5 years?" It's a good way to see if the
person HAS any goals, if the job is "just" a stopgap for them on their way
to bigger and better things, etc. I'm not saying that's wrong; it's just a
way to get them to talk. When I was asked
that question 14 years ago, I answered honestly saying, "I don't know." I
was going through a divorce, had a teenager and a toddler at home, didn't
know where I was going to live, etc. I just knew that I was good with
children(was a preschool teacher) and was service oriented; I would enjoy
doing storytimes, etc. I guess they liked my answer because I'm still here
and now I'm going to library school!

Cindy Rider
Young Peoples Associate Librarian.
Vigo Co. Public Library
Terre Haute, IN
crider@vigo.lib.in.us http://www.vigo.lib.in.us/yp/yp.html=20

"It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular
level I'm really quite busy." -Unknown

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From: Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: music in storytime compiled answers
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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:38:13 CDT

Sorry that I have taken so long to post the answers to our question about
how to find music cassettes/CD that have instrumental version of favorite
children's songs to use in storytime.  Several people have requested to
post back any anwers to the list.  So here goes -
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You can buy "split-track" recordings of lots of music.  One track has voices
and the other has music.  If they are balanced (just using the balance
button on most players), you have both or you can split it and have just the
music.  What is nice is that you can have some help getting started, and
then get rid of the words so that you can make up your own verses.  Most
places offer them, just look for "Split-track" on the description.  Leslie

Leslie Johnson
Children's Librarian
Golden Public Library
Jefferson County Public Library

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I would recommend a karaoke store.

Tina Hager
Youth Services Librarian
Carrollton Public Library, TX

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I wonder if there is a source for Karioke-type CD's with kids songs; it
sounds like that is what you need; Karioke is made to be sung-along to, but
no vocals are included.

Mary Helen Sakellarios
mhs@vpslibrary.org
Palm Springs Public Library

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During my tenure as a children's librarian I had the same problem. I solved
it by having my father play the tunes on the piano while I taped him. It
worked great. An added bonus was that I made copies of these tapes and now
have them as a reminder of him since his death.
Anyone with a bit of musical ability could do this using basic sheet music
if needed.
Good luck!

Maureen McKay, MLS
Public Services Supervisor/Assistant Director
Lambton County Library

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Since it's hard to find instrumental only cassetts or CDs, have you thought
about making one for your own use?

Check around and see if there is a music teacher (piano or guitar) who
could take on the project with his/her students.  Or if a local high school
music dept. could do something as part of a community service volunteer
program.  Being of a geeky turn of mind, I would probably make up a midi
file on my computer and then burn it onto a CD, but I know that not
everyone thinks that way.

The best thing about making your own is that you know what songs you do in
storytime and what order you sing them in so you don't have to worry about
cueing up the right song and skipping over the songs you never use.

Hope this helps,
Susan Harding
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Ella Jenkins' CDs often have tracks of both vocals with instrumentals
and instrumentals only.  My favorite of her CDs is "Early Early
Childhood Songs."  She plays guitar or ukelele and her simple
arrangements make it easy to follow and sing along.

Susan Ungham
Brunswick Community Library
Medina County District Library

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We had a similar question recently.  It seems that all or most of Joanie
Bartels' tapes contain a side with the words and a side with just the
music.  Most of the tapes have "Magic" in the title. Some of them are
"Morning Magic" and "Lullaby Magic."  Hope this helps.

Kym Lucas, M.L.S.
Brunswick COmmunity Library

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Hap Palmer's Early Childhood Classics is broken up into two parts.
Part I:  music with words
Part II:  music only


Dana Campbell, Youth Services Librarian
Corvallis-Benton County Public Library

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I know Hap Palmer has several that have instrumental only on one side and
him singing and the instruments
  on the other side.  However, it only appears on the cassette versions, not
the CD versions.

  Here are a couple that do that.

  Early childhood classics [sound recording] : old favorites with
                 a new twist / Hap Palmer.
  NOTE he does vary some of the traditional songs.
  Itsy bitsy spider -- Pat-a-cake -- I'm a little teapot -- Old
  MacDonald -- Touch your toes to your nose -- Circle songs : The
  mulberry bush ; Ring around the rosy ; Hokey Pokey -- Open shut
  them -- One, two, buckle my shoe -- Head, shoulders, knees and
   toes -- Bingo -- The elephant -- I'm glad I'm me -- Twinkle, twinkle
  little star -- The wheels on the bus -- Good-by song.

  Hap Palmer's holiday magic [sound recording]
  What a world we'd have -- Jingle Bells/Jingle song --Caroling,
  caroling -- The angel band -- Merry Christmas Santa -- Rudolph the
  red-nosed reindeer -- Chanukkah oh Chanukkah -- Things I'm
  thankful for -- The merry hula -- Feliz Navidad/Merry Christmas --
  The baby's carol -- We wish you a merry Christmas


  So big [sound recording] : activity songs for little ones / Hap
  Palmer.

  Here is another tape by Joanie Bartels which also has an instrumental only
side to it.
    Lullaby magic II [sound recording]
  Dream a little dream of me / W. Schwandt, F. Andree -- Goodnight
  sweetheart / R. Nobles, J. Campbell, R. Connelly -- Somewhere
  over the rainbow / H. Arlen -- Russian cradle song -- May I have
   the next dream with you / Harry, Charles & Henry Tobias -- German
  lullaby -- Sleepyhead / M. Ratner -- When you wish upon a star / L.
  Harline -- Sleep song / G. Nash -- Love me tender / E. Presley, V.
  Matson.

  Hope this helps some.

  Maeleah Gorman
  East Forest Park Library
  Springfield Library

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I talked with the children's librarian who orders our music.  She
showed me a catalog she uses, Educational Record Center (1-800-438-1637
to order).  The most recent issue, p. 12, shows a "New! 3-CD Set - The
Ultimate Kids Song collection.  All songs recorded in Split-Track
format for karaoke-style singalong fun.  Song lyrics included.  Ages
3-10.    $23.00"


p.27 has Toddler Tunes - 25 classic songs for toddlers - split track
format.

One more source -> Kimbo catalog.  She believes the title "Circle Time"
is a split-track style.

Hope this helps.
Judy Dishong
Birchard Public Library

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Try the Cedarmount Kids tapes and cds. They have two tracks, one with words
and one with out.  They are put out my Cedarmount music of Nashville TN.

Good Luck,
Joanie Arndt
Palos Heights Public Library

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Also, while we were looking for instrumental music, Faye Walker at our
libary in Barnesville found the site www.niehs.nih.gov.  Go to the site and
scroll down to the Kid's pages.  Kid's pages main menu has a site for
sing-alongs.  Most of the music is instrumental.  We don't know if we can
down load it to use in storytime but it is there.  NIEHS stands for
National Institute of Environmental Health Services.

Thank you so much for all your answers.  It is a great help.  PUBYAC is a
wonderful resource. mmp
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M. Marsha Parham
Flint River Regional Library
800 Memorial Dr.
Griffin, GA 30223
(770) 412-4770
(770) 412-4771 (fax)
parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us

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From: "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Recent "loading kids games on pc's"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:38:20 CDT

I might have been the one. Here is the summary I had written.
Laura Gruninger
Mercer County Library System
CD-ROM Efficiency Summary

Hi Laura - Here's how we did it-

In our children's room, we have four computers devoted to software, with
the
same 10 games on each PC. We rotate them once or twice a year (replacing
them with new stuff). We tried to use a tower and had LOTS of trouble
with
it -all kinds of CD errors - mostly (I think) because the software
designers
are making these CD games for home use and not for use over the network.
Most of the CD's need to be on the local drive during use, and just
couldn't
cope with being on a tower or being accessed through a network. A few of
the
programs we tried wouldn't work at all this way. I also noticed that
many of
the programs didn't even install anything on the  machine itself except
for
a shortcut - everything was on the CD. What we finally did to resolve
this
was to purchase something called CDCopier (or Virtual CD,depending on
which
version) which makes the computer think it's got 10 cdrom drives -I
think
you mentioned something like this in your email. We also purchased
larger
hard drives for those 4 computers, installed the program and then copied
each of the 10 CDROMS onto the PC. This solution has worked very well
-no
more strange error messages, or games that won't work/install correctly.
Here's the URL for more info about the product we purchased (this is a
newer
version): http://www.imsisoft.com -go to the "products" pull-down menu
and
choose Virtual CD v3.

If you have other questions about our experiences with using a tower,
and
with the virtual cd product, feel free to ask.

________________________
Michelle C. Miller Shutt
Technology Support Librarian II
Richland County Public Library
2001 Library of the Year
1431 Assembly St., Columbia SC 29201
http://www.richland.lib.sc.us
(803) 929-3445

RE:
Topic No. 1

Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:51:35 -0800 (PST)
From: "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
To: publib <publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu>
Subject: FW: CD ROM Towers vs. hard drive
Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10201061851330.20817-100000@sunsite.berkeley.edu>

>  We use Virtual CD which allows you to load the CDs on the hard drive-
it has
been working real well for us- The box says you can add up to 23 CDs (
I'm
not sure how large you need the  hard drive to be- we use it for
business
disks and have the Thomas register (with 16 disks)and several others
loaded.
hope this helps

Kathy Bloomberg-Rissman
Principal Librarian
Upland Public Library
450 N. Euclid Ave
Upland, CA 91786
909 931-4202
kbr@ci.upland.ca.us

We have bought a tower.  Am trying to understand site licenses.  This
has
been very confusing.  To add to confusion, have been on vacation since
before Christmas and have pretty much forgotten any info I thought I
understood. 

Christine

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:28:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Shelley A. DeLano <sadelano@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: Wayne County Grant -- Christine Gogolowski <chrisg@tln.lib.mi.us>,
     gsamra@tln.lib.mi.us, mckibben@tln.lib.mi.us, ntaylor@tln.lib.mi.us
Subject: CD ROM Towers vs. hard drive (fwd)

We're not alone with our questions.   sad

sadelano@tln.lib.mi.us
Shelley A. DeLano
Romulus Public Library

We have had a tower for over a year--the CDs that run on the tower are
not on the hard drive, but exist virtually--

However, we have had problems with the tower--not running certain CDs,
and then once when we installed an update, not running cds it ran before
without a problem--

Most recently our tower crashed and had to be sent back to the factory
meaning that we had no CDs on the computers at all--Susan259@aol.com

Hi Laura,

The software you are thinking about is called Virtual Drive.  I have an
old
pentium 1 with windows 95 and 3 of the MECC games on it, Africa Trail,
Maya
Quest and the Yellow Stone National Park.  That's all it had room for on
the
hard drive.  The software works! But having them on the system uses alot
of
bytes.  Hope this helps.

Amy Blake
ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us

At the San Antonio Public Library, each of our 20 locations has one
Kid's
Connect computer that was donated by Gateway. Our library's automation
department loaded 25 games onto each computer (the same games on all of
them). We do not rotate the games. We have had some problems with the
sound
cards going out so that the player could not hear the sound on the game,
but
I think that has been mostly rectified now (by our automation
department). I
do not know of any plans for changing any of the games that we now have
on
our computers. We have had them about a year and a half now, and I have
heard no complaints that we have not added any different games. Most of
our
regular game players go straight to their favorite games and are quite
happy
with them.
Beverly Bixler
San Antonio Public Library, TX Beverly Bixler [bbixler@sanantonio.gov]

Laura,
    We had towers for about four years.  Our biggest problem was patrons
removing discs.  They had to crawl under the table to do this, but it
happened fairly regularly.  Some disc would only play in the number 1
spot too.
    We've had them loaded on the hard drive for the last 3+ years and
have had very few problems.  We have 6 on the preschool computer and 7
on the elementary computer.  My TS person tells me they could probably
hold about 10.  These computers are over 2 years old so I'm sure
whatever you bought would have a bigger hard drive and therefore more
space.
    I'm afraid to remove the games that are on the computers, so we add
a new one every once in a while.
    Susan Lepore
    Coordinator of Children's Services
    Warwick Public Library
    Warwick, RI
    susanle@lori.state.ri.us

Laura,

I saw your posting on PUBLIB.  At our Business Library we have had
success
with loading commercial business databases such as ABI-Inform from
CD-ROM
onto Snap Servers.  Note that this is not graphics-intensive, multimedia
software which you are probably using.  The Snap Servers have been
described
to me as essentially very large hard-drives, and they appear to function
well in our Windows NT environment.  I don't know whether this is the
solution you alluded to in your posting.  If you want more details, let
me
know and I'll forward your question to the appropriate guru in IT.

Paul Otto, Assistant Business Librarian
Brooklyn Public Library, Business Library
280 Cadman Plaza West
Brooklyn, NY  11201
718-623-7009
p.otto@brooklynpubliclibrary.org


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Chris Burnett
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:41 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Recent "loading kids games on pc's"


Help!  Can the person who did this post forward the reply to me?  I
printed it out and gave it to our MIS department and lo and behold they
can't find it!  And, my copy is literally buried somewhere in this
Summer Reading mess I have going on...
It would be MUCH appreciated!  The program mentioned sure seemed like
the solution to our dilemna!



Chris Burnett
Youth Librarian
Casa Grande Public Library
449 N. Dry Lake Street
Casa Grande, AZ 85222
520.421.8710
cburnett@ci.casa-grande.az.us

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From: Jeanne Lohfink <lohfink@wnpl.alibrary.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Teen Submissions online reponse
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:38:27 CDT

Thank you to Annemarie Meyer and Colleen Rortvedt for their feedback on how
to accept original work by teens online.


I'm just working on this myself--and all of it is conceptual right now, as
I haven't physcially created the web site, or the forms. My $.02 though-- I
will check the submissions for profanity, but will leave all
grammar/spelling in the original form (unless it is an obvious typo, ie
"int he"). Right now we have a committee, and I think that we will be
rotating the responsibility of checking the content for appropriateness.
Plagerism, this is just too broad an issue. We can't possibly be
responsible for checking everything that comes to us, the scope would be
too large, it would be too time consuming, and would take away from
creating the content on the site. As to the issue of citing--I will just be
putting first names up on the site. I don't want to open children/teens to
having their full names exposed for everyone in the world to see. We will
also have a little caveat on the site saying something like:  Your
submissions will be posted on our web site, so please make sure that what
you write is appropriate for public viewing, and double check your spelling
and grammar--remember, many people will have access to your work. This
covers the implied permission to public, and hopefully will keep any 'ugly'
stuff in check.
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You are required to get parental permission if the child is 12 or under,
which rarely happens in our case since our programs are for teens in grades
7-12, but has happened!  We provide a line on out print form for parental
signature if the author is 12 or under.  On the web I call any students that
are in the 7th or 8th grades just to make sure they are old enough to not
require parental permission.

I do correct spelling, but generally not grammar.  If there is a question I
would contact the author to ask them if their grammatical error was
deliberate.

We identify the authors by first name and sometimes last initial.

To avoid the plagerism issue we have each person submitting entries click on
a button that says the entry is their own original, previously unpublished
work and that they grant the library permission to put it on the web page.

Here is the link to our online publication:
http://teen.apl.org/teenvoices.html.  We're still young and we learn with
each new edition, but it is so much fun reading the entries.


One thing you want to keep in mind is that with online forms the person
submitting has to have an email address to submit via the web page unless
you create a more complicated form.  I honestly don't know the nuts and
bolts of how this works, our Webmaster did one for our Teen Winter Librart
Program (http://teen.apl.org/wlp_registration.asp).  As you can see it's an
.asp file instead of an .html - you're welcome to look at the source code
and get out of it whatever would be helpful.  We have yet to do this type of
form for our online publication but I would like to as soon as there is
time.  We have trouble recieving submissions when the form is set up to work
only through html, espically with people with AOL accounts.  Frequently the
submission forms are blank and I have to ask them to just send me a regular
e-mail.  We had no trouble with the more complex form that we used for the
Teen Winter Library Program and I would recommend using that style if you
can.

We generally try to put everything online that we recieve as long as it
doesn't contain vulgar language.  So far that has not been a problem.  There
may be a day where the volume is too much to handle (I would love that
problem) but for now we make an effort to put everything up.  For the first
edition we had a contest with prizes and it was a good way to kick it off,
but I feel uncomfortable "rating" the work of young authors, espically since
we accept poems, essays, short stories, etc...  How can you compare such
diverse genres?  I think it is encouraging for the teens to see their work
in print and that's the most important thing.

Colleen Rortvedt
*********************************************************************
Jeanne Lohfink
Youth Librarian
Warren-Newport Public Library
224 N. O'Plaine Road
Gurnee, IL 60031
lohfink@wnpl.alibrary.com


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