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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:58 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 762
PUBYAC Digest 762
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Circus bulletin board
by "Taylor Juvenile" <taylorjuv@hotmail.com>
2) Re: Ages for Young Adults
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
3) Timed Computer Access
by lrogers@sdln.net
4) Surveys
by "Sandy Hartsel" <hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
5) (no subject)
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
6) pizza wheel craft
by Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
7) Just for fun
by Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
8) E-mail newsletters
by "Susan Harding" <susanharding@email.com>
9) Re: Reading novels first
by bgilchri@sdln.net
10) Teens vs. YA
by Katie Bunn <kbunn@farmington.lib.ct.us>
11) RE: ["] Book jackets on webpages
by Judy Nelson <jnelson@pcl.lib.wa.us>
12) Public Hearing, ALA IFC's second draft of an LBoR
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
13) Sno-Isle Regional Job Postings for the Week of May 15, 2002
by Valerie Worrell <VWorrell@sno-isle.org>
14) no game policy
by "Jeanine Asche" <asche@plsinfo.org>
15) Discovery Packs
by "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
16) RE: CybraryN Software
by "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@townofgreenfield.org>
17) Trolls, Fairies & Dragons...
by Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
18) What to call "teens"
by "Anthony Bernier" <abernier@oaklandlibrary.org>
19) RE: Ages for Young Adults
by <mneiman@cox.net>
20) Re: Definition of "young adult"
by Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
21) Re: Storytime group behavior
by "Brendle Wells" <bwells@mail.sacramento.lib.ca.us>
22) ya vs. teen
by "Jennifer Stencel" <jstencel@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
23) FW: CybraryN Software
by Lisa Sizemore <Lisa.Sizemore@lfpl.org>
24) Teens vs. YA's--response
by "Deirdre Miller" <dlmm34@hotmail.com>
25) best single jobber for children's music?
by "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
26) Re: Stumper--Flies/bees and bread with jam
by Jeanfargo@aol.com
27) Stumper-Perky the skunk
by "Rebecca Cohen" <storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
28) Re: Autobiographies
by "Dawn Imada" <dawnimada@hotmail.com>
29) Personal Stumper!
by Bjh6677@aol.com
30) RE: : YA age category...
by Luci Albertson <lalbertson@bedford.lib.nh.us>
31) Two stumpers
by Ginny LaJuene <ginny@lajuene.com>
32) death of parent
by Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
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From: "Taylor Juvenile" <taylorjuv@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Circus bulletin board
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Help! I'm in need of a bulletin board slogan that goes along with a
circus train.
Angela
Taylor Memorial Public Library
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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Ages for Young Adults
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:01 CDT
Many libraries use the term Young Teens (YT) to refer to Middle School
collections and programs.
Young Adult is then used for High School age.
The needs, tastes, concerns, behavior issues, and materials are so
different that the two categories really deserve to be dealt with
separately.
Lisa Smith
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From: lrogers@sdln.net
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Subject: Timed Computer Access
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We use the Pharos system which also times out at one hour. We use it on 12
adult internet access computers and 4 young adult computers with games and
word
processing (no internet right now). Patrons are limited to one hour per day,
period. They choose the adult or YA computers. We have 4 youth computers
without Pharos on a 30 minute sign-up. They have both games and internet
access. We are soon moving to a brand new Youth Services wing and are
considering Pharos on all Youth Computers.
Linda Rogers Youth Services
Rapid City Public Library
Rapid City, South Dakota
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From: "Sandy Hartsel" <hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Surveys
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:12 CDT
Hello,
Do you have any surveys that you have given to patrons
or sent out
in newsletters that have been helpful in evaluating your library's services
and what patrons want?
If you could email me a copy of them, I would
appreciate it. Thank
you.
Sandy Hartsel
Co-Librarian
Bettsville Public Library
P.O. Box 385 233 State St.
Bettsville, OH 44815
Email hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us
Phone 419-986-5198
Fax 419-986-6012
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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:17 CDT
The Cuyahoga County system (suburban Cleveland, OH) went from YA to Teen
Services for just this reason. When you say "Teen" there's much less
confusion. (YA to publishers can mean a narrow range from 11-14!)
Janet
Yeah, but that -is- what YA is--isn't it? I mean, once you're 15, why
would you be reading YA books especially?
Bonita
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From: Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: pizza wheel craft
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:24 CDT
Boys especially might enjoy turning them into the circular
shields used by ancient Greek soldiers. We did this when we used
an Olympic theme for summer reading club. Would also suit a time
travel theme.
Christine M. Hill
Willingboro Public Library
One Salem Road
Willingboro NJ 080846
chill@willingboro.org
My new book! Ten Hispanic American Authors, Enslow, 2002
Reviewed in May 1, Booklist!
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From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Just for fun
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:31 CDT
Hello All,
At breakfast this morning my almost 7 year old looks up and says to
me
"Do you think I can have a Harry Potter birthday party this year?"
Thanks
to all your wonderful posts in the past I was able to answer
enthusiastically, even before coffee, sure we can make wands, and
chocolate frogs and play Quidditch.
Thanks for making me look so great! This party is a big deal to her
since we moved recently and the attendees will be mostly new friends.
Julie
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From: "Susan Harding" <susanharding@email.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: E-mail newsletters
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:37 CDT
At the Mesquite Public Library, we are going to try doing an e-mail
newsletter with our summer reading club this year. We're going to use it
mostly to announce the programs for the upcoming week. We're also going to
ask kids to write mini-reviews of books they read during the summer.
Has anyone ever tried doing something like this? What are the benefits and
pitfalls?
Thanks,
Susan Harding
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From: bgilchri@sdln.net
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Reading novels first
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I would like to read all the children's dep't. books first, but I catalog
too
many in one year to be able to do that. I, too, skim as many as I can.
I
also
rely on reader opinions. If kids ask for a particular genre, for example,
I
cover the titles I know first and then show them the ones I don't know but
hope
will be good reads. I always end with something like, "But I haven't
read
these, so when you finish this, please let me know if it's something I
should
be recommending to other kids, too." Sometimes I hear
back--particularly if
it
was a great book. Betty Gilchrist, Huron Public Library
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From: Katie Bunn <kbunn@farmington.lib.ct.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teens vs. YA
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We designate books as "Teen" in our catalog. Their space in the
library
is called "Teen Services" or "TeenSpace". I agree that
"YA" is a term
that teenagers don't know means THEM!
And thank you Gayle Richardson - I quite agree. Let's encourage kids to
be kids. I wish it were not so difficult to buck the trend, however.
I
mainly see middle schoolers - AND OFTEN YOUNGER - in our teen space and
we are supposed to be serving grades 7-12.
My own opinions, of course, and I have a lot of them!
--
Katie Bunn
Teen Services Librarian
Farmington Library
Farmington, CT
860-677-6866
"People say that life's the
thing, but I prefer reading."
Logan Pearsall Smith
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From: Judy Nelson <jnelson@pcl.lib.wa.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: ["] Book jackets on webpages
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For those of you attending ALA in Atlanta, a panel of publishers and editors
will answer this question and a great deal more on Saturday afternoon at the
YALSA program "Publishers, You Asked for It" a response to librarians
questions. the program is sponsored by the Publisher's Liaison Committee,
and co-sponsored by PLA and AASL.
Judy T Nelson
Chair, Publisher's Liaison
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What is the copyright situation for putting scanned images of book covers
onto a web page?, eg as part of a recommended books list. Do I have to ask
every publisher for permission?
Thanks,
Pam Gravenor
Children's and Young Adults' Librarian
Nelson Public Library
Private Bag 41
Nelson
New Zealand
pam.gravenor@ncc.govt.nz
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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Public Hearing, ALA IFC's second draft of an LBoR
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:30:01 CDT
A public hearing on the ALA Intellectual Freedom Committee's (IFC's)
second draft of an Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights on
privacy is scheduled for Saturday, June 15, 11:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m., in
the Georgia World Congress Center, B311. The second draft can be found
at
http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/draftprivacyinterpretation.html
The IFC currently plans to submit a final draft to the ALA Council at
its third session on Tuesday morning.
See also
Questions and Answers on Privacy and Confidentiality
http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/privacyqanda.html
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From: Valerie Worrell <VWorrell@sno-isle.org>
To: Greg Yorba <gyorba@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU>,
Linda Frederiksen
Subject: Sno-Isle Regional Job Postings for the Week of May 15, 2002
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Sno-Isle Regional Library System has an opening for Island Region Manager,
40 hours/week located at the Marysville Service Center in Washington State.
Job #0239 Open Until Filled - Consideration of applications will begin on
June 14, 2002. For more information and to obtain an application on this
employment opportunity, please visit our website at
http://www.sno-isle.org/employment/
or contact our Job line at (360)
651-7040.
_____________________________________________________________________
Valerie Worrell
Sno-Isle Regional Library
Human Resources
Phone: 360-651-7004
Fax: 360-651-7151
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From: "Jeanine Asche" <asche@plsinfo.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: no game policy
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:30:13 CDT
Do any of you have a "no game policy" for your public access Internet
=
terminals. Our director is thinking about letting one of our branch =
libraries try this. I have some concerns regarding staff time =
monitoring terminals, limiting recreational pursuits of only one age =
group (kids are really the only age group that play games), and that =
this sets a precedence for us regulating Internet content. The flip side =
is this library has an insufficient amount of terminals to keep up with =
the high demand and they want their patrons to have easy access to the =
many databases and information sites that are so often only found on the =
Internet. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. We're meeting =
Wednesday to discuss.=20
Jeanine Asche
Youth, Family and Literacy Service Manager
asche@plsinfo.org
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From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Discovery Packs
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Hello all,
My library has received a grant from a local foundation for the purchase of
Discovery Packs from DEMCO (http://www.demco.com/),
along with the oak
stand/rack to put them on. My question is this: has anyone added
these to
their collections? If so, please share your experiences, both positive and
negative. They will be coming in any day now, ready to circ, and I'd
reall=
y
like to hear from anyone who has experienced this.
Thanks
Lorie O'Donnell
Children's Librarian
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY 13440
odonnell@midyork.lib.ny.us
You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers.=A0 You can tell whether
=
a
man is wise by his questions.
- Naguib Mahfouz--=20
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From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@townofgreenfield.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: CybraryN Software
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:30:24 CDT
We are using it in both the adult and children's rooms with the same rules
applied: 1 hour on per day (we have it set to 12 hours before another
usage). The only real problem we've encountered in the Children's Room are
kids accidently logging themselves off and infrequently commplaining that
they didn't have enough time to type their paper, do their research, etc.
Unfortunately, we only have 2 stations in the Children's Room and three in
the main library, and there is usually a waiting list in both rooms. Other
than that we have been mostly satisfied.
Lisa
--
Lisa Prolman
Assistant Reference/ILL Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
402 Main Street
Greenfield, MA 01301
(413) 772-1544
lprolman@townofgreenfield.org
All things considered, insanity may be the only reasonable
alternative. -- saying from a button
--
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From: Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Trolls, Fairies & Dragons...
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:30:31 CDT
Dear OH Great Ones,
I've searched the books, the websites, and more (and found lots of
great stuff) and now I'm turning to you
for your favorites -- out theme this summer is "fantasy" and I've got
programs on PETER PAN (pirates, fairies, mermaids etc.), one on TROLLS,
OGRES, and GIANTS and then finally one on DRAGONS.
I'm looking for craft/acitivty ideas for school age children that any of
you out there have done that you were proud of and would be willing to
share with me - I'm really looking for good DRAGON, FAIRY, MERMAID, GIANTS
and OGRE ideas...
TIA! This should be a FUN summer!
Erin
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Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth/Teen Services Librarian
Royal Oak Public Library
222 East 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
PHONE: 248.246.3734
FAX: 248.246.3705
EMAIL: helmrich@tln.org
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From: "Anthony Bernier" <abernier@oaklandlibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: What to call "teens"
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Great conversation, all, on how to identify the right words to characterize
a complex group of people!
This question of what specific "term" is "correct" and when,
echoes, at
least for me, the ways in which other social groups have also changed what
we call them: women, African-Americans, workers (vs "laborers"), etc..
My own approach to this "YA Perplex" (to borrow Diana Herald's great
phrase), is to be situational about it. When in discussion with colleagues
or other library people I refer to "YA" or "Young Adults."
When in front of
younger teens (roughly 12-16, or so) I use the term "teen" because
when
you're 13 that's what you've been aspiring to since about 10. When
involved
with "older" teenagers I use the term "young people" or
"young adults"
because its at about that age they start shooting for the "Big A" the
"Adult" title.
I'm always open to correction if kids want me to refer to them in a
particular way. And here is where we get back to other social groups and
the need to remain open about language. Ultimately, we should call people
what they want us to call them.
But the most important thing, I'm sure all will agree, is that when
addressing youth (of any age) if we do it with respect I think we'll get the
benefit of the doubt every time.
Again, great discussion!
Anthony Bernier
Oakland Public Library
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From: <mneiman@cox.net>
To: "Susan Dailey" <obldailey@wellscolibrary.org>,<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Ages for Young Adults
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:30:43 CDT
Interesting that you should ask. When I first arrived at the library, going
on five years ago, the YA books were in one small section of the Children's
Department. They had a "JT" call number (Juvenile Teen?). Sometime
around
the time I arrived, the call number was changed to YA. This more or less
coincided with a new addition which included a Young Adult room. Many of the
JT call numbers still exist. Our YA labels are no longer available, so we
designed our own this winter. These say TEEN, and we decided that we would
change the call number when we started to use those. So our new books have a
TEEN call number. Yes, that means we have JT, YA, and TEEN all in the same
room! And the location code says "Young Adult". Whew! Of course, our
aim is
to change all the call numbers to TEEN, but I don't see it happening any
time soon.
Miriam
~~~~~~ ~~~~~~
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT
The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my library.
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From: Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
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Subject: Re: Definition of "young adult"
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I prefer teens--it sounds less condescending. Teens cannot legally
drink, smoke, vote, marry, etc. so they are not adults in any real
sense of the word. Why pretend?
The Grammatical arguement:
Adult is a noun and Young an adjective. It is incorrect to call people
who are NOT adults in the eyes of the law and society at large Adults
of any kind. I prefer Young Teens (age 11 to 14) and Older Teens (age
15 to 18).
The Librarian Arguement:
Also, if I am remembering correctly from my teaching days, "Young
Adults," as a subject heading in the ERIC database, means ages 21 to 36.
Dawn Sardes
YA Librarian
----- Original Message -----
From: Librenee@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:57 am
Subject: Definition of "young adult"
> Christy Jones raises a very important point. No one outside of the
> libraryworld calls teenagers "young adults." No one outside of
the
> library world
> knows what/who we're talking about when we use this term
> (including teens
> themselves). Why do we persist in doing this? I'm all for changing the
> library lingo - to what, I don't know. But surely there must be a
> better way
> to refer to this age group than with a term that the general populace
> assumes
> to refer to an older group of people. Perhaps the kids
> (teens/YAs/whatever)themselves could help us come up with a more
> apt moniker.
>
> And then, I'd like to see libraries start addressing the needs of
> real young
> adults (people in their twenties and thirties).
>
> Renee J. Vaillancourt
> Library Consultant
> 248A. N. Higgins Ave. #145
> Missoula MT 59802
> librenee@aol.com
> (406)777-1228 (phone or fax)
> *home office - please phone or fax between 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. MST*
>
>
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From: "Brendle Wells" <bwells@mail.sacramento.lib.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Storytime group behavior
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:30:55 CDT
Thank you thank you thank you!
Thank you to all who responded to my plea
for help with my suddenly
unruly storytimes. I got many excellent suggestions from the list
members--too many to summarize here. Many of you spoke from great experience
and it was wonderful to hear your thoughts most of all. It was also nice to
know that I am not alone!
Some of the most common suggestions made to me
included nametags,
using lots of wiggles, stopping completely if things get out of hand,
talking to parents--make sure they know the rules apply to them too, having
multiple storytimes, using special phrases to settle kids (1,2,3 eyes on me,
criss cross applesauce, etc), use volunteers for crowd control, and instead
of getting louder, get softer.
I already do some of these things--we can't
possibly add any more
wiggling! :-) --but I haven't tried stopping completely before. I think I
will definitely keep that one in mind. Name tags will probably be added
this summer when I get teen volunteers to help me...
One of the things that I think several of
you understood was that I
was already stressed and burned out on storytime. I have had only a couple
months off in the past two years. Most of that was not concurrent. I
am
trying to arrange a break before summer starts. It may or may not happen.
What I began to consider after several emails mentioned my stress was that I
might be the trigger for the difficult behavior. Kids may well be picking
up on my frustration and exhaustion. Several people reminded me that
storytime was supposed to be fun. It hasn't been fun for a few months for
me. I think this makes my need for time off all the more important.
Thanks again for your suggestions and
ideas. Keep sending them! I
am keeping a file of your wisdom to use in the future!
Brendle Wells
Carmichael Regional Library
Sacramento Public Library
bwells@mail.sacramento.lib.ca.us
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From: "Jennifer Stencel" <jstencel@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
To: <xyjones3@yahoo.com>
Subject: ya vs. teen
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:31:01 CDT
Akron- Summit County Public Library System (Akron, OH) is going through the
process of changing all the YA signs and stickers on the books to a Teen
label. When I asked my pages about how they felt about the change of
titles (mind you they are roughly Juniors and Seniors in HS) the said they
objected to being called or lumped as "Teens", they liked the YA title
better. These HS sampled said that they think of teens as 11-14 yr olds
(or
9yr. olds wanting to be so much older). One did say that she does consider
herself a Teen up until "nine-TEEN". But note, they hinted
that they were
not ready to jump into the Adult section once their ages ended the TEEN/YA
intended audience...("because once you turn 18 you are considered an
adult"). They are still enjoying reading the SVH Senior Yr books and
such.
But from a parent point of view: "teen" seems to be more
"understood" of
describing those 12- to 18.
I have a question- or maybe a comment... to add to this discussion: how
about we keep both titles - have a Teen section and a YA section. I KNOW I
KNOW- to divide and divide again!!!! I am thinking of the new
trend in
YA/Teen lit. which is pumping out Gossip Girls, Sloppy Firsts, Lady: My
Life as a Bitch ( how long do you think this one lasts!!) and other titles
many released under the MTV publications) which are really geared towards
upper high school ages and into the 20's. I do not feel comfortable putting
these in the Teen/YA section just because of the 6th graders (with very
protective parents) who (hopefully) do not have the comprehension/
experience of the heavy topics discussed within these titles- yet they are
titles that would interest the older teen age range. So, some I have kept in
teen, others I put in the adult collection. I guess where I am going
with
this is.... are teens/ya's jumping into the adult collection at or around
17- and up? Do they become scarce and if so why? Would they/ are they
venturing into the Adult collection to find these titles? Do you think
they
would feel more comfortable with a YA section geared more towards 18-to
what 22 (college age) which then we could put these would be very popular
titles in that section. Would we then keep this age group? Just a thought I
had, for what ever it is worth.
Take care all Teen/ Young Adult librarians!
Jennifer Stencel
Youth Librarian
Richfield Branch Library
Akron Summit County Public Library System
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From: Lisa Sizemore <Lisa.Sizemore@lfpl.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>,
Subject: FW: CybraryN Software
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:31:07 CDT
Hello, again! I've been receiving several questions on the dynamics of
CybraryN software, which I am unable to answer. If you'd like to find out
more about the program, here is the website...hopefully it can help!!
http://www.cybraryn.com/
One more thing...if your library currently uses CybraryN in their children's
department and you have a separate computer policy for the children's
section, I would love to see a copy of your policy. Thanks!! Lisa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lisa Sizemore
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:45 PM
> To: 'CHILD_LIT@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU'
> Subject: CybraryN Software
>
>
> Sorry if repeated on PUBYAC!
>
>
> Hello! Our library system has installed a program called CybraryN on the
> computer terminals in the Main Library's adult section. This program is an
> automated Internet/computer sign-on. Our adult section has much success
> with it thus far, it reduces the staff's work with dealing with sign-up
> sheets and also has decreased inappropriate Internet usage. The patron
> must enter their library card number on the computer screen before they
> are allowed access. The software then limits the user to one hour of
> computer use. After the hour has expired, you must wait six hours before
> you are allowed back on to the computer.
>
> Before we install the software in the children's department, we want to
> revise the policy and PR pieces for children.
>
> My questions:
> * Are any of you using CybraryN in your children's or YA department?
> * Can you tell me any of the pros or cons you've experienced?
> * What time limits do you have; are they long enough or too short?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Lisa Sizemore
> Supervisor of Main Library Children's Department, Bookmobile & Outreach
> Louisville Free Public Library
> www.lfpl.org/
> Phone: 502-574-1626
> Fax: 502-574-1833
> sizemore@lfpl.org
>
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From: "Deirdre Miller" <dlmm34@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teens vs. YA's--response
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:31:14 CDT
This is a great topic! Thank you for your impassioned response. I,
too,
feel that the YA designation is a bit artificial, and why not just be
straight up and say "teens"? I know that several other local
library
systems now refer to their formerly "YA" services as "Teen."
But, I beg to differ on the idea that the YA section has a negative
connotation for our teens, betwixt the ages of 11 and 18 (as my library
system so defines it.) Yes, we definitely do have to cover a wide age
range
of readers, from precocious 5th graders to high school seniors (gasp). And
yes, a huge range of reading interests and levels is included in this
"YA"
designation.
My YA area (I'm not bragging!) is very popular with teens, and preteens,
because I work very hard to make sure it supplies them with a broad and
diverse array of reading material, for ages 11 and up, icluding many
adult-level titles of interest to older teens. I do read and review
materials to be sure that they are of appeal to teens' many interests, and
that they aren't explicitly "adult" in terms of mature content.
I want the
high school seniors to find great adult books, classics, suspense, and
"YA,"
and also provide for the 6th graders who have outgrown what's available in
the Juvenile section, and want something more. I'm not embarrassed to
include _A Wrinkle In Time_ (and L'Engle's sequels to this classic tale),
all of Jacque's Redwall books, alongside mature novels such as Kingsolver's
_Poisonwood Bible_ and Crichton's _Timeline_ in my collection. I think of
my collection as a bridge between the J collection and the Adult, and I am
always a little thrilled when I see adults "grazing" and finding some
great
titles that they couldn't find elsewhere in the library....
Yes, 11-year-olds and 18-year-olds have vastly divergent reading
interests. Maybe, in an ideal library world, we will have separate
collections for "mature children/preteens" and "Teen/YA's";
but at this
time, I don't know whether that will happen. Don't forget, the Juvenile
books include Easy books, Readers (at several levels too!), Early Chapter,
and Juvenile fiction, covering several reading levels.
Perhaps we need to accept that YA (or "Teen") covers several reading
levels
too. And do our best to make sure that collection meets their many
developmental, intellectual, and entertainment needs. (And that we find
all
the "good books" for them!)
Cheers,
Deirdre Miller
Young Adult Librarian
Lake Forest Park Library, KCLS, WA
dlmm34@hotmail.com
* Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer *
"You teach a child to read, and he or her
will be able to pass a literacy test."
--George W. Bush
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From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: youthserv <youthserv@uhls.lib.ny.us>,
PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>,
"Child Lit (post)" <CHILD_LIT@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: best single jobber for children's music?
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:07 CDT
Is there a jobber who is particularly good for supplying children's
music on CD? Please reply to me. Thanks!
--Jendy Murphy
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From: Jeanfargo@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Stumper--Flies/bees and bread with jam
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:13 CDT
Hi Pubyackers--
Thank you all for your answer to my stumper -- I think I heard from every
state in the union, as well as from librarians in New Zealand and New South
Wales! The title of the book my patron is seeking is The Giant Jam
Sandwich,
and it's by John Vernon Lord. We have several copies in our system, and
I'll
order one for her, and one for myself, too! Sounds like a favorite for
people all over the world--thanks again!!!
Jean Fargo
Youth Librarian
Fruitville Public Library
Sarasota, Florida
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From: "Rebecca Cohen" <storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper-Perky the skunk
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:19 CDT
Dear Pubyaccers,
A patron seeks a beloved book from her childhood, 1930's/40's. The
juvenile
book, probably non-fiction, features a family of skunks, one of whom is
named Perky. They live on a farm with a human family that observes their
daily lives.
I have tried "A to Zoo", FirstSearch, and the Children's catalog as
well as
our own catalog.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Rebecca Cohen
Newport Public Library
Newport, Oregon
<storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
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From: "Dawn Imada" <dawnimada@hotmail.com>
To: lschloli@sdcl.org, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Autobiographies
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:25 CDT
Here are some suggestions:
http://www.sjpl.lib.ca.us/Kids/bklists/autobio_athl.htm
http://www.sjpl.lib.ca.us/Kids/bklists/autobio_auth.htm
http://www.sjpl.lib.ca.us/Kids/bklists/autobio_world.htm
http://www.sjpl.lib.ca.us/Teen/r-autobio.htm
Dawn Imada
San Jose Public Library
(408) 277-4874
dawn.imada@ci.sj.ca.us or dawnimada@hotmail.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Linda Schloegel" <lschloli@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: lschloli@sdcl.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Autobiographies
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:01:05 CDT
Hi,
If anyone still has the list of juvenile and young adult autobiographies,
would you send it to me please? After ordering several I misplaced the
list.
TIA,
Linda Schloegel
Children's Librarian
Lakeside Branch Library
Lakeside, CA
lschloli@sdcl.org
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From: Bjh6677@aol.com
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Personal Stumper!
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:31 CDT
Hello
I am a new librarian fresh from library school. I am trying to recall a
story that was told in one of my children's classes. It goes something
like
this: It is about a boy who buries himself alive with the help from his
friend. He does this I think to break a record or something. He uses a
tube
like a snorkel to breath. His friend leaves him over night. Meanwhile
early
the next morning a women comes to the cemetery to place flowers on all the
graves and she sees a freshly dug grave with no flowers on it. She feels
bad and places flowers in it's funny looking vase. The boy in the grave is
not able to breath. His friend is late to help dig him out of the grave.
That is all I remember except I know it was one of several stories with in a
book. I know there is at least one person on the listserv that went to
Indiana University that might help me also. Email me directly if you have a
suggestion.
Thank you!
Bethany Hayward
Young Adult Librarian
Broward County Libraries
South Regional Library
7300 Pines Blvd.
Pembroke Pines, FL 33024
7300
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From: Luci Albertson <lalbertson@bedford.lib.nh.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: : YA age category...
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:38 CDT
I say "hear, hear" to Gayle Richardson. Since when were 6th graders on
the brink of adulthood? Is there not a huge difference between the
sophistication and life concerns of an 11-year-old and a 16-year-old? In
our library, we have taken an unorthodox approach and divided the
collection between Jr. High and High School. The latter are shelved in
the YA area bordering on Adult Services, whereas the younger group is
housed in the Teen section of the Children's Room. It seems to be
working well for both the patrons and their parents.
Luci Albertson
Bedford Public Library
Bedford, NH
luciart@hotmail.com
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From: Ginny LaJuene <ginny@lajuene.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Two stumpers
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:44 CDT
Dear colleagues;
I have two stumpers from books that were readily available just five to
seven years ago.
Stumper #1 While camping with his family, a boy
falls into toxic waste
and gains psychic powers. A cousin had the same experience previously and
also has psychic powers.
Stumper #2 The setting is a town on Earth.
The residents are aliens
disguised as humans. The children don't know about their origins until
puberty...and many changes. An alien boy falls in love with a human girl.
Thank you in advance;
Ginny La Juene, Director
Altamont Free Library
105 Park Street
Altamont, N.Y. 12009
Literacy is the basis of citizenship.
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From: Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: death of parent
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:57:50 CDT
Hi!
We are having a problem finding a book for a young child. His father was
killed in a car accident Saturday.
He is only three years old, and the family is looking for picture books
about the death of a father.
Also, for some reason, the boy keeps saying that it's his fault that the
father died even though he is only three and was not even in the car.
We have tried a few books but most are just over his head. Most of the
books we have are deaths of grandparents, pets, mothers (dying of
illnesses, etc.)
I know that I have seen a simple picture book about the death of a father
where a girl is deciding whether to go to the funeral service, all the
relatives coming, walking into his empty room, etc. I just can't find it.
I have been through all of the books in our system under the subject death
and it is not jumping out at me. I checked Amazon.com and A to Z.
If you know the book I am talking about, or have any other suggestions I
would appreciate it.
Thank you.
mmp
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M. Marsha Parham
Flint River Regional Library
800 Memorial Dr.
Griffin, GA 30223
(770) 412-4770
(770) 412-4771 (fax)
parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us
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