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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 764


    PUBYAC Digest 764

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Library Patron Survey
by "Sandy Hartsel" <hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  2) RE: Circus bulletin board
by Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
  3) YA librarian job description
by Tara Rivera - OPL <trivera@oaklandlibrary.org>
  4) Flannelboard pattern book compilation
by nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com>
  5) New Staff Orientations?
by Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
  6) Re: Discovery Packs
by "Barbara" <bwilkie@connect.crlc.org>
  7) RE: ["] Book jackets on webpages
by "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@townofgreenfield.org>
  8) Re: YA ages
by <mneiman@cox.net>
  9) RE: Trolls, Fairies & Dragons...
by Jonya Pacey <jonya@selco.lib.mn.us>
 10) Re: no game policy
by Beth Gallaway <bethgallaway@yahoo.com>
 11) Re: Teens vs. YA
by "Rebecca Higgerson" <rhiggerson@mail.saclibrary.net>
 12) Re: E-mail newsletters
by "Rosemary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
 13) Re: no game policy
by Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
 14) Time to read J books summary
by Judy Czarnecki <jczarnec@vml.lib.mi.us>
 15) Tea Party Thank You
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 16) Re monster trucks
by "Pam Minarik" <pminarik@nsls.info>
 17) Children's software
by CGeeding <CGeeding@elizpl.org>
 18) Stumper: Elephant and boy
by "Theresa Hadley" <thadley1@qwest.net>
 19) Re: no game policy
by Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
 20) Separation Series
by lisajo@nwlink.com (Lisa Anderson, Children's Librarian)
 21) STUMPER
by "Betsy Johnson" <bljohnson@hdpl.org>
 22) Stumper: Whispering Town
by Teresa Salatino <teresas@wccls.lib.or.us>
 23) Stumper-nurse story anwered
by "Stacey Irish" <Stacey.Irish@cityofdenton.com>
 24) Good Storie Ideas Needed
by Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
 25) Re: Teens vs. YA's--response
by ILefkowitz@aol.com
 26) RE: : YA age category...
by "Clemens, Mary" <mclemens@cslibrary.org>
 27) STUMPER:  My Grandfather's Spectacles
by Michael Dell <MDell@epl.ca>

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From: "Sandy Hartsel" <hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: "PUBYAC" PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Library Patron Survey
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:10 CDT

Hello,

     Do you have a survey that you have had patrons fill out or sent a
survey in a library newsletter that has been helpful in evaluating your
library's services and what patrons want?
     If you could e-mail, fax or send me a copy, I would appreciate it. 

    Thank you.

Sandy Hartsel
Co-Librarian
Bettsville Public Library
P.O. Box 385  233 State St.
Bettsville, OH  44815

Email   hartsesa@oplin.lib.oh.us
Phone  419-986-5198
Fax     419-986-6012

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From: Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Circus bulletin board
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:16 CDT

How about something simple like, "Join the Circus"?

-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor Juvenile [mailto:taylorjuv@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:29 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Circus bulletin board


Help! I'm in need of a bulletin board slogan that goes along with a
circus train.

Angela
Taylor Memorial Public Library

_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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From: Tara Rivera - OPL <trivera@oaklandlibrary.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: YA librarian job description
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:22 CDT

Hi, all!

I'm a young adult librarian at Oakland Public Library who is part
of very new, innovative, and exciting initiative to increase the
quality of services towards young adults. There are various elements
to this including creating a new YA space, establishing new services,
and developing hot new programs. Right now, I'm in the process of
generating a new YA librarian job description for myself and am
researching like mad. I would heartily welcome any YA librarian job
description you might be willing to share. Anything...sky's the limit!
Please
feel free to contact me at trivera@oaklandlibrary.org. Thanks in advance!

in good cheer,
Tara

----------------------------
Tara Rivera
Teen Specialist
Oakland Public Library
trivera@oaklandlibrary.org
510.238.3850

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From: nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Flannelboard pattern book compilation
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:28 CDT

As promised....so many favorites out there!!!I It is going to be tough
making a decision! Thanks again, Nadine


I have used Judy Sierra's The Flannel Board Storytelling Book ed. 1 & 2 and
Multicultural Tales for the Felt Board, Finger Folk by Marilyn Lohnes
(enlarge and convert to flannel), Flannelboard Stories for Infants and
Toddler by Ann Carlson & Mary Carlson and Flannelboard Classic Tales by
Doris Lynn Hicks. I think they are all great, but my favorite is Judy
Sierra's Flannel Board Storytelling Book.

Here are some that I use often:Flannelboard Stories for Infants and Toddlers
by Ann Carlson and MaryCarlson ISBN 08389075982's Experience - Felt Board
Fun by Liz and Dick Wilmes ISBN 0943452198The Flannel Board Storytelling
Book by Judy Sierra  ISBN 082420932x

All of Judy Sierra's books.

My favorite flannelboard book is Judy Sierra's "The Flannel Board
Storytelling Book." (Wilson, 1997). However, I have to put in a pitch for a
great new book I've found -- it's called "FingerTales," by Joan Hilyer
Phelps. It's full of themes using felt finger or glove puppets, each
complete with other activities (including some flannelboards, crafts, and
movement activities) to make up a complete storytime. It's brand new from
Upstart, and it's my new favorite source book for storytime.

1. 2's Felt Board Fun Experience   by Liz & Dick Wilmes
ISBN 0943452198
2. Felt Board Fingerplays          by Liz & Dick Wilmes
0943452260
3. Flannleboard Stories for Infants and Toddlers
by Ann Carlson             0838907598


I have two favorite flannelboard pattern books - one's a few years old
and my all-time favorite, and one I just purchased this year.  My all-time
favorite, which appears to be out of print, is Literature Patterns by
Linda Milliken.  It has great images to go with favorite (but not overdone)
picture books.  It was published by Edupress and might be available
used somewhere.  My new pattern book is The Best of Totline Flannelboards
written and
compiled by Kathleen Cubley.  ISBN 1-57029-245-0 and copyright 2000.   It
has
good pictures and short stories/poems.

The one book in our collection is called A treasury of flannelboard stories
by Jeanette Graham Bay, published in 1995 by Alleyside Press, Fort Atkinson,
Wisconsin. .

I use flannelboard/magnetboard stories in every storytime.  Here are Some of
my favorites:-The Best of Totline Flannelboards.  By Kathleen Cubley.
Totline, 2000.-Felt Board Fingerplays.  By Liz & Dick Wilmes.  Building
Blocks, 1997.-A Treasury of Flannelboard Stories.  By Jeannette Graham Bay.
Alleyside Press, 1995.2's Experience Felt Board Fun.  By Liz & Dick Wilmes.
Building Blocks,1994.Alleyside Book of Slannelboard Stories.  By Jeannette
Graham Bay.Alleyside Press, 1991.The Flannel Board Storytelling Book.  By
Judy Sierra.  H.W. Wilson, 1987.

These are the ones I use the most:
Felt Board Story Times by Roxane Chadwick, Alleyside Press, 1997
Cooking Up a Story by Carol Elaine Catron, Denison, 1986
Super Story Telling by Carol Elaine Catron, Denison, 1986
MultiCultural Folktales: Stories to Tell Young Children by Judy Sierra,
Oryx, 1991
The next two books do not have stories in them, but have lots of patterns
that can be used for flannel board stories:
Big Book of Patterns 2 ed. by Kathryn Nider Wolf, Education Center, 1988
Big Book of Patterns 3 ed. by Cathie Carter, Education Center, 1991


My new favorite is Travel the Globe: Multicultural Story Times. It is by
Desiree Webber, et al and was published in 1998. It covers 14 different
countries/cultures. I'm glad you'll be compiling a list. I can't wait to get
it. Betty Gilchrist Huron Public Library

  nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com> wrote: Yaccers,

I am sure you all have favorite flannelboard/feltboard pattern books in
your professional collection. Would you please share the titles of your
favorite(s)? We need a new one...the two in our collection...are older than
my two assistant children's librarians!!!! I will gladly compile the list
and share with the group if you send your recommendations directly to me at
booklover32@yahoo.com

Thanks greatly!

Nadine



***********************************************************
                     Nadine Lipman
                Head of Children's Services
                  Waterford Public Library
                   Waterford, CT 06385
               email:  booklover32@yahoo.com

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From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: New Staff Orientations?
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:34 CDT


Does anyone have information on (and possibly a checklist form that you use
for) orienting new staff to your library and department? We are trying to
develop an organized orientation process for our library in addition to the
one already being conducted by our City. Right now orientations vary from
department to department and branch to branch and we all need to get on the
same track. Any help will be appreciated, including Word attachments with
sample forms you might have. Please respond to me directly.

Thanks,

Diane Tuccillo
Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator
City of Mesa Library
64 E. First St.
Mesa, AZ 85201
480-644-2735
Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us

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From: "Barbara" <bwilkie@connect.crlc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Discovery Packs
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:40 CDT


Hi,
I bought about 20 packs from Demco. I liked them. Parents reactions in some
cases have been different. Some of the packs have many parts so you have to
label them and give the parents an inventory sheet when it goes out. Staff
spend time counting parts and they are not happy. Then the call to the
patron to look for that missing piece. The Sound prints from the Smithsonian
Institute might work better for you. They are cheeper and they have 3 pieces
in each pack: an animal, a book, and a tape. A combination of both worked
well for us. Now I'm adding more bags and I'm doing them myself. Discount
classroom has great things to put in the packs and they are inexpensive.
Good luck.
Barbara Wilkie
East Hartford PL, CT

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From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@townofgreenfield.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: ["] Book jackets on webpages
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:47 CDT

Is someone who is going willing to post the answer to the list.  Not all of
us are so lucky as to be able to go.  :)

Lisa

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Judy Nelson <jnelson@pcl.lib.wa.us>
Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Date:  Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:55 CDT

For those of you attending ALA in Atlanta, a panel of publishers and editors
will answer this question and a great deal more on Saturday afternoon at the
YALSA program "Publishers, You Asked for It" a response to librarians
questions.  the program is sponsored by the Publisher's Liaison Committee,
and co-sponsored by PLA and AASL.

Judy T Nelson
Chair, Publisher's Liaison


--
Lisa Prolman
Assistant Reference/ILL Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
402 Main Street
Greenfield, MA 01301
(413) 772-1544
lprolman@townofgreenfield.org

All things considered, insanity may be the only reasonable
alternative.  -- saying from a button
--

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From: <mneiman@cox.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: YA ages
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:52 CDT

What? A 15 year old isn't a teen anymore? Isn't concerned with teen issues?
I don't understand the push to rush teens into adult fiction and elementary
school kids into YA fiction. Granted, a 17 or 18 year old should be moving
or moved into adult fiction, but a 15 year old still has a lot of time left
to be a teen, and there's a lot they can 1) enjoy and 2) learn from/in YA
lit.

Miriam


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Wrom: CJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWC
Date: 2002/05/16 Thu PM 03:29:17 EDT
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>

The Cuyahoga County system (suburban Cleveland, OH) went from YA to Teen
Services for just this reason. When you say "Teen" there's much less
confusion. (YA to publishers can mean a narrow range from 11-14!)

Janet


Yeah, but that -is- what YA is--isn't it?  I mean, once you're 15, why
would you be reading YA books especially?

Bonita

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~~~~~~ ~~~~~~
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT

The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my library.

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From: Jonya Pacey <jonya@selco.lib.mn.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Trolls, Fairies & Dragons...
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:11:59 CDT

Riddle games and scavenger hunts go over very well for this theme.

Jonya

 Jonya Pacey
 Cataloging and ILL Assistant
 SELCO (Southeast Libraries Cooperating)
 2600 19th St. N.W.
 Rochester, MN  55901
 Phone  507-288-5513
 Fax    507-288-8697

-----Original Message-----
From: Erin Helmrich [mailto:helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:31 PM
To: pubyac
Subject: Trolls, Fairies & Dragons...


Dear OH Great Ones,

I've searched the books, the websites, and more (and found lots of
great stuff) and now I'm turning to you
for your favorites -- out theme this summer is "fantasy" and I've got
programs on PETER PAN (pirates, fairies, mermaids etc.), one on TROLLS,
OGRES, and GIANTS and then finally one on DRAGONS.

I'm looking for craft/acitivty ideas for school age children that any of
you out there have done that you were proud of and would be willing to
share with me - I'm really looking for good DRAGON, FAIRY, MERMAID, GIANTS
and OGRE ideas...

TIA!  This should be a FUN summer!
Erin

****************************
Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth/Teen Services Librarian
Royal Oak Public Library
222 East 11 Mile Rd. 
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
PHONE: 248.246.3734
FAX:   248.246.3705
EMAIL: helmrich@tln.org  
*****************************

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From: Beth Gallaway <bethgallaway@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: no game policy
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:12:05 CDT

Dear Jeanine,
We have a "no downloads" policy.  About a year ago, we
stopped allowing downloading due to bandwith issues -
our connection can't support streaming video and allow
circ to check out books quickly, so we only allow
java/html games, and limit time on the internet to one
hour when others are waiting.
No downloading means no shockwave, so that prohibits
most gaming.  We also do not allow installation, so
patrons can't come in with CD-ROMS of any kind.

The children's room offers a separate computer with
some CD-ROM learning games on it, not connected to the
Internet.  They sign up kids for 30 minute slots and
also limit to one hour per day when others are
waiting.

We have 20 machines, and teens have priority on 14 of
them.   We also  dedicate 3 computers to research
only, 3 to word processoring for a fee, and 5 to the
online catalog.

Incidentally, we have more adults playing chess,
checkers, and gambling than teens or children playing
games.

Beth G.



=====
Beth Gallaway, YA Librarian
bethgallaway@yahoo.com
Haverhill Public Library
99 Main Street Haverhill MA 01830
978/373-1586 fax 978/373-8466

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From: "Rebecca Higgerson" <rhiggerson@mail.saclibrary.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Teens vs. YA
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:12:11 CDT

I'm coming in late to the discussion, but an informal poll at my library had
the majority of teens asking for our new book labels to say "YA" and not
"Teens."  They felt "teens" signified a specific age, whereas, "YA"
signified a maturity level.



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Katie Bunn <kbunn@farmington.lib.ct.us>
Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:49 CDT

>We designate books as "Teen" in our catalog.  Their space in the library
>is called "Teen Services" or "TeenSpace".  I agree that "YA" is a term
>that teenagers don't know means THEM!
>
>And thank you Gayle Richardson - I quite agree.  Let's encourage kids to
>be kids.  I wish it were not so difficult to buck the trend, however.  I
>mainly see middle schoolers - AND OFTEN YOUNGER - in our teen space and
>we are supposed to be serving grades 7-12.
>
>My own opinions, of course, and I have a lot of them!
>--
>Katie Bunn
>Teen Services Librarian
>Farmington Library
>Farmington, CT
>860-677-6866
>"People say that life's the
>thing, but I prefer reading."
>Logan Pearsall Smith
>
>

--
Rebecca Higgerson, MLIS
Youth Services Librarian
Sacramento Public Library
828 I St.
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916)264-2845
(916)264-2854 (fax)
--

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From: "Rosemary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: E-mail newsletters
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:12:18 CDT

I have used e-mail lists for over a year to keep teens informed about what's
happening at the library.  You can quickly write one letter and it goes to
lots of teens at once for free and you can send reminders at the last
minute.  You can add addresses to your list at any time and quickly delete
any that bounce back.  I can't think of any disadvantages.  the teens enjoy
getting the mail and some write back.  You can use it to ask for feedback...
surveys, materials suggestions, program evaluations.

RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Harding" <susanharding@email.com>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: E-mail newsletters


> At the Mesquite Public Library, we are going to try doing an e-mail
> newsletter with our summer reading club this year.  We're going to use it
> mostly to announce the programs for the upcoming week.  We're also going
to
> ask kids to write mini-reviews of books they read during the summer.
>
> Has anyone ever tried doing something like this?  What are the benefits
and
> pitfalls?
>
> Thanks,
> Susan Harding
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Email.com
> http://www.email.com/?sr=signup
>
>
>

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From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: no game policy
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:12:24 CDT

Jeanine,

I personally think this is a very poor idea.  We limit time to 120
minutes a day and leave it up to the users to monitor their activities.
Just the time limits alone have reduced the gaming and made it more
equitable for all use.  Staff time is so much more valueable than
monitoring who is doing what on the computer.  I agree with you that it
can be a slippery slope of monitoring every little thing.  We use SRI
timing software and it is excellent.  Good Luck!


On Thu, 16 May 2002, Jeanine Asche wrote:

> Do any of you have a "no game policy" for your public access Internet =
> terminals. Our director is thinking about letting one of our branch =
> libraries try this.  I have some concerns regarding staff time =
> monitoring terminals, limiting recreational pursuits of only one age =
> group (kids are really the only age group that play games), and that =
> this sets a precedence for us regulating Internet content. The flip side =
> is this library has an insufficient amount of terminals to keep up with =
> the high demand and they want their patrons to have easy access to the =
> many databases and information sites that are so often only found on the =
> Internet.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. We're meeting =
> Wednesday to discuss.=20
>
> Jeanine Asche
> Youth, Family and Literacy Service Manager
> asche@plsinfo.org
>

Rosalie Olds, Young Adult Librarian
King County Library System
Fairwood Library
Renton, WA

Life's too short to read bad books or drink bad wine!


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From: Judy Czarnecki <jczarnec@vml.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Time to read J books summary
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:12:30 CDT

I would like to thank all the people who responded to my posting in #753
regarding whether or not you have time to read J books on the
clock.  Though the results were no big surprise, there were some
interesting comments which sparked some things I'd like to see us try here,
such as writing reviews on books we do read and keeping them in a notebook
for our colleagues to read and use as a resource for reader's advisory, or
keeping new books on a cart behind the CREF desk for a few days so we can
all skim them.  Anyway, here is the summarization of the responses...

About 30 people responded, of which six gave a definite (or semi-definite)
amount of time they read at work each week:
1 reads for an hour (because they are on the preview plan)
2 read for about an hour and a half (1 reads all the new non-fiction and
JE on desk)
2 read for about 2 1/2 hours (1 is required to read several books a week)
1 reads for about 3 hours
Most of the above were on a "as time allowed" basis, and much was on desk
when it wasn't busy.

One person reported not being allowed to do any reading at work, one said
only skimming of blurbs and reading JEs was allowed, 3 were required to
read, 1 was encouraged, 3 reported they are allowed to read if they have
time, and 8 said they are not forbidden to read at work, but they have no
time with other work that had to be done.

Almost everyone said they read J books at home, mostly the J FIC or YA
novels.
1 person takes non-fiction home.
2 people take JEs (one has a young child at home).

Of those who mentioned reading at work:
12 read JE (though 2 were only to read them to find storytime reads)
5 read non-fiction, 1 skims
2 read J FIC, 4 skim
4 read journals

3 people mentioned that they read exclusively, or almost exclusively, J
books in their off-time.
2 people admitted that, like me, they read adult books also.  :-)

Those 5 who mentioned reading J FIC on their own time reported everything
from 2 per week to 20 per week (!).

At our library, our preschool specialist gets all his JE books read at
work.  I (children's services specialist) skim my new J FIC, but don't read
them at work.  I read them at home.  I do skim YA FIC when I am on the YA
desk, but that is infrequently.  I occasionally take one home to read, but
mostly concentrate on the J FIC.  I can work in reading a few JEs every
week.  Our teen services specialist skims her new YA FIC at work, and is
always reading them at home.  Our Youth Services Coordinator skims her J
and YA non-fiction at work.  We are all required to read journals at work
for the reviews, and are encouraged to read any pertinent articles such as
author interviews, etc.

A few people mentioned not having any time at work to read, and having busy
lives with kids, dependent parents, etc., so not having much time for
reading outside of work as well.  One librarian observed that she reads
less since beginning to work in a library because she's too busy to
read!  Ponder that one for awhile.  It's our job to recommend books to
kids, and as a kid in the 60's, I remember seeing my public librarians
reading books at the desk between patrons (this was in a big city), yet
most of the respondents don't really read at work-they don't have
time.  Have we taken on too many tasks as libraries change to fit society's
needs?  Shouldn't time to read, at least one novel a week, be inherent in
the tasks of a librarian/library associate?  I dislike bringing money into
it, because as in my last career as an elementary school teacher, and
currently as a library associate, I'm obviously not in this career field
for the financial rewards, but as an hourly wage-earner, everything I take
home to read is definitely off-the-clock.  There are a finite amount of
hours in the day. Yes, many of the books I read are enjoyable and I don't
mind using my time to read them, but some of the books I've read are not my
cup of tea.  I still feel I have to read them, but then they are taking
away time from what I would choose to read, or other things I want to
do.  One respondent mentioned lawyers and other professionals attending
functions off-the-clock because as professionals they needed to be
there.  Very true, but I'm not pulling down an attorney's salary, nor a
doctor's, nor even an engineer's.  How much time does one need to spend
reading off the clock to maintain the designation of "professional"?

Just a last note:  A few people felt compelled to let me know that it is a
responsibility of a professional to read on their own time if the workplace
does not provide such time, that you basically have to save the adult stuff
for while you are on vacation. I am a professional, and I do realize that I
must spend some of my own time reading material for the job.  As a teacher
I worked 50 hours a week for 40 hours of pay.  I apparently gave the
impression that I don't read J books because I am not allowed specific time
to do so at work.  That is far from true; though I don't read every new
book that comes in, I read several J FIC books a month, and I do read many
of the JE books that come in, and I continually scan the new JNF.  I
personally cannot make time in my life outside of work to read 60 new J FIC
books a month (not including series and SO pbks) and still read some adult
books, and do all the other things in life that make it so much fun to live
such as gardening and spending time with my family.  I enjoy J fiction;
there is some wonderful stuff out there, but being an adult, I also enjoy
reading some of the wonderful adult stuff out there.  I know doctors who
don't just read medical journals and lawyers who read more than briefs so
why should I only read J material?  If J material is your reading
preference, and complements your work, more power to you!  But please don't
look at me as less than professional if that is not my choice.  Thank you!

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Tea Party Thank You
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:28 CDT

Thanks to all who responded to my question about where to find cups for
a tea party I am planning! Most people asked staff to bring in cups or
had plenty of their own. I will probably be buying mine from Birthday
Express, which has them for a decent price. (Last time I brought in cups
from home one was broken and I haven't the time right now to search flea
markets, though may build up a sufficient stock in the future!) Thanks
again to:

Allison Enger, Brooke Roothaan, Christine Erickson, Donna Moran, Kathy
Graham, Lisa Sizemore, Mary Helen Sakellerios, Lisa Dowlings, Meb Ingold
and Sally Williams!

Sincerely, Melissa

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From: "Pam Minarik" <pminarik@nsls.info>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re monster trucks
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:35 CDT

Has anyone heard of a program "Monster Trucks"?  This program brings trucks
and large machines to library sites. Please send any information you have
to: pminarik@nslsilus.org  Thanks, Pam Minarik

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From: CGeeding <CGeeding@elizpl.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Children's software
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:41 CDT

Our libary would like to add more children's software to our network. Please
e-mail me if your library has any programs which are Windows 2000 network
compatible.

I posted a similiar message a few months ago...Before we changed the
operating system. The programs we had then..Magic School bus and Rabbit ears
don't  work... and the younger kids really miss them.

Thanks. I so enjoy the posting of this group!

Carolyn Geeding  cgeeding@elizpl.org
Elizabeth Public Library
Elizabeth NJ

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From: "Theresa Hadley" <thadley1@qwest.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Elephant and boy
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:47 CDT

I have a patron who is looking for a book that was featured on NPR
in the past 24 months. The gist of the story is: A young boy is given
an elephant. He names the elephant Amy. When the elephant becomes too
large to have at home, he gives Amy to the circus. Years later, the boy
attends the circus where "Amy" is performing. Amy comes over to the boy
and puts her trunk around him - recognizing him after all that time.
Any ideas?

Thanks,

Theresa Hadley
Youth Services Librarian
Whatcom County Library System
5205 Northwest Road
Bellingham, WA 98226
360-676-7651
thadley1@qwest.net

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From: Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: no game policy
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:52 CDT

We do, for the same reason. A small sign on the printer next to
each monitor says "no games" and when we point it out most
patrons most are okay with it. A few will grumble. We have
adults who play games also, especially chess and gambling. We
also appy the rule to them.
Christine M. Hill
Willingboro Public Library
One Salem Road
Willingboro NJ 08046
chill@willingboro.org
My new book! Ten Hispanic American Authors, Enslow, 2002
See reviews in May 1 Booklist and June School Library Journal!

Jeanine Asche wrote:
>
> Do any of you have a "no game policy" for your public access Internet =
> terminals. Our director is thinking about letting one of our branch =
> libraries try this.  I have some concerns regarding staff time =
> monitoring terminals, limiting recreational pursuits of only one age =
> group (kids are really the only age group that play games), and that =
> this sets a precedence for us regulating Internet content. The flip side =
> is this library has an insufficient amount of terminals to keep up with =
> the high demand and they want their patrons to have easy access to the =
> many databases and information sites that are so often only found on the =
> Internet.  Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. We're meeting =
> Wednesday to discuss.=20
>
> Jeanine Asche
> Youth, Family and Literacy Service Manager
> asche@plsinfo.org

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From: lisajo@nwlink.com (Lisa Anderson, Children's Librarian)
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Separation Series
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:57:59 CDT

 Dear Pubyacers,

 Has anyone purchased the new 2002 Separation Series by Janine Amos and
published by Steven Gareth Incorporated? The titles include Death, The
Hospital, Divorce, and Moving?  If so, do you feel they would be a quality
series to have?  Do they present the information in a reassuring manner that
will not scare the child going through one of these tragedies? Do they
consider the child's
  feelings and address the child's fears, anger, etc.?
  Thank you for taking the time to read this email and replying.

  Lisa Anderson
  Children's Librarian
  Burlington Public Library
  Burlington, WA  98233

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From: "Betsy Johnson" <bljohnson@hdpl.org>
To: "Pubyac@Prairienet.Org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:06 CDT

A patron sent this stumper to us.  Does it sound familiar to anyone?

I was looking for a
children's book about a little girl named Katrina and a doll that was
made especially for her as a birthday gift.  I think this book was
probably published sometime prior to the early sixties, as I remember
reading it when I was about 6 years old.  Is there some way to locate
this book without an exact title or author? Seems like a longshot!!
Thank you for your help.

Betsy Johnson
Children's Librarian
Malcolm Library
Henderson District, NV
bljohnson@hdpl.org

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From: Teresa Salatino <teresas@wccls.lib.or.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: Whispering Town
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:12 CDT

A woman came in looking for a picture book that she remembers reading to her
son 40 years ago.  She thinks the title might be "Whispering Town"  but I
couldn't find anything that matched (I also tried "Whisper Town", "The Town
that Whispered", and other variations).  What she remembers about the story
is that everyone in the town whispered until one day a boy shouted.  That's
about all I have to go on and I'm hoping that it rings a bell with someone.
If it does, please email me directly.  Thanks!

Teresa Salatino
Youth Services Librarian
Cedar Mill Community Library
Portland, OR
teresas@wccls.lib.or.us

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From: "Stacey Irish" <Stacey.Irish@cityofdenton.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper-nurse story anwered
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:19 CDT

For the stumper about a school nurse that was published several years
ago, the concensus seems to be the following:

Just Awful by Alma Whitley ; ill. by Lillian Hoban
Addison-Wesley, 1971
"James cuts his finger in the playground and is sent
to the school nurse."

My library patron thought that sounded like the title.  Unfortunately,
this book is not in print any longer and was only available at a library
in Melbourne, Australia through WorldCat.  I imagine it has been
withdrawn from many collections due to it's age.

Thanks everyone who responded!

Stacey

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From: Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Good Storie Ideas Needed
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:25 CDT

In addition to my job at the library I also work at a
daycare. I have been informed recently that this
summer I will be responsible for lesson plans for my
3-year-old  class.  It is a Christian based daycare
and our plan this summer is to focus on the fruits of
the Spirit.  I would like to use the two days that I
work to introduce the children to different cultures
by using stories and folk tales that incorporate the
Fruits of the Spirt in the lessons that they teach.
If anyone has any ideas for stories that would work
for each idea we will focus on I would love your help.
 The Fruits of the Spirit are:
Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness,
Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self-Control.

Thank you for your help,

=====
Suzanne Kirk
Henry County Public Library
172 Eminence Terrace
Eminence KY  40019
Ph 502-845-5682
Fax 502-845-4807
e-mail Suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com

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From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Teens vs. YA's--response
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:31 CDT

As I read the many responses to this great question, I was impressed by
Diedre's thoughts. One that stood out for me was the fact that the
children's room has many different levels of reading materials and nobody
thinks twice about it.  Having a book on getting your period alongside books
about basic body parts doesn't seem to upset anyone.  However, having a
"younger YA" novel alongside Forever or a similiar more mature YA novel
upsets people.  Makes you think a bit differently.

As with the children's Department, there will always be books of various
levels dealing with a multitude of issues.  If this upsets parents, then
they need to take a more active role in observing what their children and
teens are reading.  It really isn't up to us as Librarians to separate and
compartmentalize reading materials according to the maturity of specific
individual potential users. I hope that makes as much sense to everyone as
it does to me.
--
Ilene Lefkowitz
Reference Department Head
Kinnelon Public Library
ILefkowitz@aol.com

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From: "Clemens, Mary" <mclemens@cslibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: : YA age category...
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:38 CDT

Will someone please post a summary of this discussion?  We are going
into

a building program and may be redefining our department names.  I
accidentally

deleted the original post and early responses to this discussion.



Many thanks!



Mary Clemens

mclemens@cslibrary.org



-----Original Message-----
From: Luci Albertson [mailto:lalbertson@bedford.lib.nh.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:58 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: : YA age category...


I say "hear, hear" to Gayle Richardson. Since when were 6th graders on=20

the brink of adulthood? Is there not a huge difference between the=20

sophistication and life concerns of an 11-year-old and a 16-year-old? In


our library, we have taken an unorthodox approach and divided the=20

collection between Jr. High and High School. The latter are shelved in=20

the YA area bordering on Adult Services, whereas the younger group is=20

housed in the Teen section of the Children's Room. It seems to be=20

working well for both the patrons and their parents.

Luci Albertson

Bedford Public Library

Bedford, NH

luciart@hotmail.com


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From: Michael Dell <MDell@epl.ca>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER:  My Grandfather's Spectacles
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:58:44 CDT

Can any of you help us identify this book?  It is about a small girl and her
grandfather.  It might be called "My Grandfather's Spectacles" or it may
have "spectacles" in the title.  The girl looks around the living room with
her grandfather's eyeglasses on.   It's a picture book, black and white
drawings?, and one-two sentences per page.  Our customer read it in the late
1970's.


So far we have tried these keywords: spectacles, glasses, eyeglasses,
grandfather, grandpa, papa and variations and combinations of these.

We have tried A to Zoo, Bookfinder, What do I read next (online), Novelist,
the Library of Congress catalogue, the National Library of Canada catalogue,
Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Chapters/Indigo, and, of course, our own catalogue.


We are pretty sure that it's not one of these books (based on descriptions
as we don't have them here):
Spectacles by Ann Beattie
The Magic Spectacles by Lilian Moore
My Grandfather's Eyes by Patricia MacLachlan

We don't know about this book as we haven't been able to find a description:
Grandpa's Glasses by Annie M. G. Schmidt (translated from Dutch)

Any help or hints would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


Michael Dell
Manager, Children's Division
Stanley A. Milner Library
Edmonton Public Library
7 Sir Winston Churchill Square
Edmonton, AB T5J 2V4

mdell@epl.ca
780-496-7040
780-496-1885 (FAX)

http://www.epl.ca

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