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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 766
PUBYAC Digest 766
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: Circus bulletin board
by rose@missoula.lib.mt.us
2) Re: Westing Game
by Lakeviewbooklady@aol.com
3) Hat Day?
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
4) Teen Cult Resources
by "Esther Murphy" <emurphy@ala.org>
5) Stumpers: Family on a Hill & Girl Going to the Library
by Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
6) Stumper Solved: Elephant and boy
by "Theresa Hadley" <thadley1@qwest.net>
7) stumper: Mail monster
by Laurel Sharp <lsharp@mailbox.lpl.org>
8) Two stumpers
by Ginny LaJuene <ginny@lajuene.com>
9) Thanks re: Stumper - Children's adventures with horse
by "BALIS/PLS/SVLS Reference Center, SF Branch"
<srcsf@mindspring.com>
10) soda from faucet..one more time!
by "Gayle Richardson" <Gayle.Richardson@spl.org>
11) STUMPER
by Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
12) Stumper : fiction novel...?
by "Waerea Tosca" <t.waerea@ace.ac.nz>
13) Training for library staff working with children
by snorth@liswa.wa.gov.au
14) Fundraising question
by "Mary M. Schmidt" <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
15) Re: Discovery Packs
by erricoj@eiNetwork.Net (Judy Errico)
16) answers to trio of stumpers
by "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
17) comments and a question
by "Karen Brown" <brownk@ci.monterey.ca.us>
18) american girl program
by Michelle Ramsell <ramselmi@oplin.lib.oh.us>
19) RE: Time to read J books summary
by "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
20) Re: Teens vs. YA's--response
by "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
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From: rose@missoula.lib.mt.us
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Subject: RE: Circus bulletin board
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:09:35 CDT
We have a Circus Train bulletin board and the slogan is
"Reading Railroad".
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From: Lakeviewbooklady@aol.com
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Subject: Re: Westing Game
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:09:42 CDT
I'd be interested in what you end up with as a game. I've heard of a teacher
who read this out loud to her class and had them take notes along the way.
By
the end of the book, those with good notes could solve the mysteries.
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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Hat Day?
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:09:48 CDT
I recall that there used to be a National Hat Day/Week/Month, but when I
checked Chase's, all they have is a day for switching from felt to straw
and vice-versa. Do y'all have a special time of year (other than
Easter)
when you do Hat programs? I know you don't have to have a special time,
but it's always fun to announce, "Since it's National Week of the
Chapeau..."
Thanks!
Lin Look
Contra Costa County, CA
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From: "Esther Murphy" <emurphy@ala.org>
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Subject: Teen Cult Resources
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:09:54 CDT
Please pardon any cross-posting:
- - - - -
Greetings: I need some advice. I am looking for non fiction books about
teen cults, particularly those dealing with "Satan." I want books
about
people who have dealt with such teens in such groups. In our school we
have had to deal with a suicide involving a depressed teen-ager who was
also part of a so-called Satan cult. Thanks for your help. Please send
the answer to
elizabeth_frank@hotmail.com
Sincerely, Elizabeth Frank
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From: Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumpers: Family on a Hill & Girl Going to the Library
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:00 CDT
Hi Everybody,
We have two stumpers for you.
1) Family lived on a hill where it is always windy. They put rocks
in
their pockets. They polished them and townspeople wanted to buy them.
2) Girl going to the library gets people to follow her and reveals
story. Lost her book/ret. book goes through city.
Please excuse if these descriptions don't make any sense. I'm typing
this verbatim from a note taken by circ staff.
Thanks in advance,
Toni
Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
222 N. Jefferson St.
Papillion NE 68046
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us
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From: "Theresa Hadley" <thadley1@qwest.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper Solved: Elephant and boy
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Thanks so much to Laura Ling, Larel Sharp, Susan Carr, Leslie Auerbach,
Linda Anderson, Susan Anderson-Newham, and Lynne Miller for solving the
stumper about the Elephant and the boy (See original stumper request below).
It turns out that quite a few people fondly remembered this NPR piece, and
the book is actually adult non-fiction. It's "The Cowboy & The
Elephant" by
Malcolm MacPherson.
Thanks again, Theresa
Original stumper request:
I have a patron who is looking for a book that was featured on NPR
in the past 24 months. The gist of the story is: A young boy is given
an elephant. He names the elephant Amy. When the elephant becomes too
large to have at home, he gives Amy to the circus. Years later, the boy
attends the circus where "Amy" is performing. Amy comes over to the
boy
and puts her trunk around him - recognizing him after all that time.
Any ideas?
Theresa Hadley
Youth Services Librarian
Whatcom County Library System
5205 Northwest Road
Bellingham, WA 98226
360-676-7651
thadley1@qwest.net
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From: Laurel Sharp <lsharp@mailbox.lpl.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: stumper: Mail monster
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:12 CDT
Hello, Collective Brain--
Does anyone remember a picture book with a monster (rather like a
pterodactyl) delivering mail in a small town? The questing patron didn't
think it was Mercer Meyer or Dick Gackenbach monster-style, but sort of
like that. Could have been published late 70s/early 80s.
thanks!
Laurel
Laurel Sharp
Liverpool Public Library
310 Tulip Street
Liverpool, NY 13088
315 457-0310 x123
Fax 315 453-7867
lsharp@mailbox.lpl.org
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From: Ginny LaJuene <ginny@lajuene.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Two stumpers
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:18 CDT
Thank you to all the PUBYACers who came to the rescue;
Stumper #1: While camping with his family, a boy falls into toxic waste and
gains psychic powers.
Answer: Others See Us by William Sleator.
Stumper #2: The setting is a town on Earth. The residents are aliens
disguised as humans. The children don't know about their origins until
puberty.
Answer: The Dark Side of Nowhere by Neal Shusterman.
Thanks again for all of your help.
Ginny La Juene, Director
Altamont Free Library
105 Park Street
Altamont, N.Y. 12009
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From: "BALIS/PLS/SVLS Reference Center, SF Branch" <srcsf@mindspring.com>
To: "Pubyac" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks re: Stumper - Children's adventures with horse
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*Many thanks* to Kim Heikkinen and Jen Marin for identifying the book about
the wild carousel horse and time travel as _Ride a wild horse_, by Ruth
Christoffer Carlsen. It's exactly what we were looking for!
- Catherine Sylvia
BALIS/PLS/SVLS System Reference Center, SF Branch
c/o San Francisco Public Library
100 Larkin Street, 3rd floor
San Francisco, CA 94102
tel: (415) 552-5042 fax: (415) 552-5067
email: srcsf@mindspring.com
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From: "Gayle Richardson" <Gayle.Richardson@spl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: soda from faucet..one more time!
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:31 CDT
Of course, I didn't pay any real attention to the title to this stumper
produced on at least TWO previous occasions on PUBYAC, and now, tonight,
into my branch walks a patron requesting it. Can anyone supply? Here
are the clues:
Parents gone, babysitter either never arrives or else arrives
and
is very magical and laissez-faire....lots of unusual things happen,
among them soda pop coming out of a faucet.
Please reply directly to me.
TIA
Gayle Richardson
gayle.richardson@spl.org
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From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:37 CDT
Hi all, And the answer is--
The calf named Laloo and her mother named Mamoo appear
in There's
Nothing To D-o-o-o by Judith Mathews (Browndeer Press/Harcourt, c1999).
Thanx to Shanla Brockshire and lrogers@solla.net
for the answer.
The mother that keeps making mistakes might be Mother
Makes A Mistake
by Ann Dorer. We don't own it and it is o.p. so we can only hope this
answers the patron request. Thanx to Ruhama Kordatsky and Solina Marquis
for this answer.
Aren't PUBYACers amazing? - jeri
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@gcfn.org
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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From: "Waerea Tosca" <t.waerea@ace.ac.nz>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper : fiction novel...?
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:43 CDT
Kia ora,
We had a query on a fairly recently published novel but the person only =
had a few clues. The author of the novel is a woman and the story =
revolves around villagers who isolate themselves against the plague (the =
1700's the requestor thinks). A minister and his wife are key =
characters. Does anyone remember the author and title of this work?
A =
staff member recalls glancing at a review but has no memory of anything =
more specific. All replies welcomed.
Regards,
- tosca
Tosca Waerea (t.waerea@ace.ac.nz)
Lending Services
Sylvia Ashton Warner Library
Auckland College of Education
Private Bag 92601
Auckland, New Zealand
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From: snorth@liswa.wa.gov.au
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Training for library staff working with children
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:50 CDT
Hi
I'm from Western Australia and work with librarians from 238 public
libraries across the State. I'm working on a couple of training programs
to present to library staff in public libraries. This will include
basic
customer service skills to encourage all library staff (not particularly
young peoples librarians) to be more empathetic when working with children
and young adults as well as consulting young people about library rules,
services and resources. I would be very interested to hear from anyone who
has done anything similar.
Thanks
Sue North
Consultant: Library Advisory Services
Library and Information Service of Western Australia
Public Library Services
Alexander Library Building
Perth Cultural Centre
Perth Western Australia 6000
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From: "Mary M. Schmidt" <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Fundraising question
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:10:56 CDT
Dear Collective Brain-
My director has asked me to come up with a fundraising plan to raise funds
to
purchase a significant item for our new Children's Department following a
major building project. She would like the participation/donations of
elementary school kids to be the major focus, perhaps donating coins or
change? I thought the funds could purchase a display case for the
department.
Has anyone else done something similar, any suggestions? My best concept so
far is "Coins from Kids" but I'd like something that ties the library
into
the name of the program. Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly
appreciated. Reply to-
mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us
Mary M. Schmidt
Head of Children's Sevices
West Babylon Public Library
211 Rt. 109
West Babylon, New York 11704
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From: erricoj@eiNetwork.Net (Judy
Errico)
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Discovery Packs
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Hi Lori=2C =
We recently added discovery packs to our library=2E The parents and kids =
seem to love them! We charge a 5=2E00 deposit fee which is kept in a =
sepurate envelope at the desk=2E We put their name on the 5=2E00 with a =
post-it and they get it back when the pack is returned=2E We have a small=
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file box and each pack has it=27s own card with the contents listed=2E Wh=
en =
the pack is returned we check to see that all of the contents were =
returned and then the patron gets their 5=2E00 back=2E So far=2C only one=
or =
two little pieces have gotten lost=2E They have been out for about 1-2 =
months=2E
Judy Errico
Children=27s Librarian
the Community Library of Allegheny Valley
Broadview Blvd
Natrona Heights
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From: "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: answers to trio of stumpers
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:11:08 CDT
PUBYACcer's,
You all are great! I was able to get the title on one of these. It
was
unanimous! The book about the magician and the colors was The Great
Blueness and Other Predicaments by Arnold Lobel, copyright 1968 by Harper.
CIP: "When a wizard discovered that each color he invented for a
colorless world had a different emotional effect on people, he luckily
had an accident which resulted in red apples, green leaves, and yellow
bananas" (and the world was too beautiful to ever be changed again)
I have been told it is out of print. Several people mentioned that they
like to use this story in story hours.
One other person, Ellen Braby of the Santa Monica Public Library, was
able to give me the title of KERSTI AND SAINT NICHOLAS. This book is by
Hilda Van Stockum and published in 1940. She reported that here library
had a copy in Christmas storage.
The other book was an unknown.
Thanks for all your help!
Karen
~~~~~
Dear Giant Brain,
I have a patron interested in books from her and her children's past.
She has a great memory for plot! I hope you can help, since she
remembers none of the titles. Without the titles, I had to rely on my
memory and other staff members. We came up with nothing! These books
have probably been out of print for awhile. The lady's children are now
in their 30's.
Book #1 has three children who are bored. There is a troll named Tor who
lives in the toy box. I guess these kids go on an adventure drawn by
themselves. This book is of a Scandinavian background.
Book #2 she called Kirsty and St. Nicholas. She says the child was
very naughty in the book and had to talk with St. Nick.
Book #3 is about a magician who makes the world blue and everyone is sad,
then red and everyone is angry, etc. In the end he returns all the
colors to the world.
Your help in these is greatly appreciated!
TIA
Karen C. Gardner
Children's Services
Anderson Public Library
Anderson, IN 46016
kgardner@and.lib.in.us
:)
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From: "Karen Brown" <brownk@ci.monterey.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: comments and a question
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:11:14 CDT
Finally I have caught up on reading the old postings. I feel like I
can't come into a discussion until I'm up to date, and sometimes, when
I'm especially busy, I get several weeks behind.
First, I would like to comment on reading all the new books. I can't
because we have a nice budget and get lots of new books, but I do review
them all in some way. I am surprised; however, that no one mentioned
cds and videos. I do preview all of those, some even before they are
cataloged. These items cannot be browsed by the customer as books can.
It is important for me to know how songs and portions of the videos
might fit into the teachers' curriculum. Whether a particular song or
video will work for a parents' bibliotherapy question. Often with
videos I must make the difficult decision of whether to put it in J or
T. I can't imagine not knowing that Two of A Kind's "Love is A
Family"
is a song that includes a family with two mom's, children living with a
grandparent and a family with no kids at all. We get asked for this
kind of material a lot. I must know each of the activities on Preschool
Power's 8 video tapes, so that I can suggest one when a preschool
teacher wants to make tortillas or pinatas, for example. And how could
I answer a request for toilet training materials, without mentioning Hap
Palmer's song "Today I Took My Diapers Off" on the first Babysongs
video. There are some great reference tools on these topics, but they
do not take the place of knowing these collections.
I wanted to also make a few suggestions for storytime control. We take
three three week breaks per year. Before summer, after summer and
Winter Holiday season. That helps. Second, we use Shapes Etc.
notepads
as cheap name tags, kids and parents write names and tape them on. They
put them into pocket charts at the end of storytime "for next time".
Get twice the total number of different kids you expect during that
session. It's just a few dollars. Finally a Totline newsletter about
two years ago included some songs for gaining or regaining attention.
Email me if you'd like me to send you a copy. I agree that the hidden
prop is a great attention-getter. The best thing is if the puppet or
whatever is produced in a very quiet, even whispery way.
Now my question. I work in a medium sized public library, but I am
helping out a very small library. Those of you who work with a tiny
library, what kind of computer system can work for you? The only one I
have heard of is Follett, which is used by school libraries here. But
how about a town of 1000 or a church library or a small school? How
small can we go? How cheap can we get? When and how can a tiny
library
go beyond a few card catalog drawers? Is it possible? Who
should I
contact? I would really appreciate help with this.
Karen Brown
brownk@ci.monterey.ca.us
Youth Services Manager
Monterey Public Library
625 Pacific Street
Monterey, CA 93940
831-646-3744
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From: Michelle Ramsell <ramselmi@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: american girl program
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:11:20 CDT
Several weeks ago I requested ideas for an American Girl party. As usual,
you were all wonderful and quick to respond with great ideas. I have
compiled the ideas I received below. I hope that you will find them
useful!
Thanks again!!
Michelle McMorrow Ramsell
Head of the Children's Department
Tuscarawas County Public Library
121 Fair Ave NW
New Philadelphia, OH 44663
330-364-4474
At Mt.Greenwood lib.in Chicago, there is a Am.Girl tea party 3x a year. I
started the program 5 years ago, and it's still going strong. There is a
fancy sign-in book complete with a pink feather pen-, intro. activity
where
the girls sit in a circle and intro. themselves, 3 crafts,
snacks-in-between,
and a boistrious game of "Who's the Leader", (a girl scout game) to
top off
the afternoon. I'd be happy to send details...
Arlene F. Badillo
Beverly Branch Library
Chicago Public Library
amazontippy@aol.com
Hi!
We've done an American Girls party every year for the past few years with
good results! The librarians before me and I have done a tea party, a
quilting bee (featuring Kirsten), Molly's Lend-a-Hand (I unfortunately
don't have too many details about this one), Reader's Theater (taking the
script for Felicity in Six Plays by Pleasant Co.), and a games day
(featuring games from Kit's era).
Another suggestion: Look through the Birthday Party Theme book that
Pleasant Co. put out about the American Girls.
Have fun! I can't wait to hear what others will do (esp. since I haven't
planned mine for this year yet! hee hee)
:) ruhama
Ruhama Kordatzky
Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library
Burlington, WI
Hi Michell,
When I put together an American Girl program for the public library I rented
the dolls from Pleasant Co and put them on display. The dolls also come
with author tapes. I dressed up in a colonial outfit and brought many
antique items with me. I had set up small tables with pretty napkins and
bud vases with flowers. I made small finger sandwiches and decorated the
plates with fresh flowers. I also served fruit punch with an ice ring made
using fresh flowers.
I showed the girls the antique items and we played a game guessing what the
items were and for what they were used. I had the girls hand sew antique
colonial hats while I showed the author films. I also did book talks on
the
books and had a trivia game on the books. Ooh, and I also invited the
girls
to bring along their American girl dolls.
We all had a lovely time.
Hope you can use some of these ideas.
Deb
Hi Michelle,
I had an American Girl Party last month to celebrate
Women's History Month. I based it around the Samantha
doll. I advertised it as an intergenerational event,
inviting girls and their mothers and even grandmothers
(although I had only one grandmother). The first part
of the program, I shared several pages from the
"Welcome to Samantha's World" book. The book is great
with lots of pictures and things to talk about. I was
surprised how interested the girls were. I also
brought several things from home, like a stereoscope
that I had, an old dresser set, etc. If I do this
again, I hope to see about borrowing some items from
the local historical society. After sharing the book
and items, we made two crafts from the Samantha craft
book.
The program was well received and I plan on doing it
again next March with a different doll and time
period.
Good luck!
Genie DuPell,
Youth Services Librarian
Fayetteville, NY
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From: "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Time to read J books summary
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:11:26 CDT
Hear, Hear, Judy!
I'd never dream of calling someone "less than professional" if they
chose to spend non-work time with their children, or volunteering for
their church or synagogue, rather than reading J books... So why should
spending your personal time reading an adult novel be any different?
Frankly, if I had wanted a career that expected me to never be off-duty,
I'd have gone into a field like medicine or law, that pays accordingly.
It is bad enough that we are in a profession that compensates us so
poorly; there are so many out there who expect us to take our work home
with us and forsake our personal lives as well.
You go, girl!
Andrea Johnson
(speaking only for myself)
ajohnson@cooklib.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Czarnecki [SMTP:jczarnec@vml.lib.mi.us]
>=20
> Just a last note: A few people felt compelled to let me know that it
=
is a responsibility of a professional to read on their own time if the =
workplace does not provide such time, that you basically have to save =
the adult stuff for while you are on vacation. I am a professional, and =
I do realize that I must spend some of my own time reading material for =
the job. As a teacher I worked 50 hours a week for 40 hours of pay.
I =
apparently gave the impression that I don't read J books because I am =
not allowed specific time to do so at work. That is far from true; =
though I don't read every new book that comes in, I read several J FIC =
books a month, and I do read many of the JE books that come in, and I =
continually scan the new JNF. I personally cannot make time in my life =
outside of work to read 60 new J FIC books a month (not including series =
and SO pbks) and still read some adult books, and do all the other =
things in life that make it so much fun to live such as gardening and =
spending time with my family. I enjoy J fiction; there is some =
wonderful stuff out there, but being an adult, I also enjoy reading some =
of the wonderful adult stuff out there. I know doctors who don't just =
read medical journals and lawyers who read more than briefs so why =
should I only read J material? If J material is your reading =
preference, and complements your work, more power to you! But please =
don't look at me as less than professional if that is not my choice. =
Thank you!
>=20
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From: "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Teens vs. YA's--response
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I agree... I think compartmentalizing reading material into tiny age groups
is very limiting. It is the same complaint I have about Accelerated
Reader.
Older children and teens in particular are not always willing to cross an
age barrier, even if what they want is in children's room. I have gone
there to get books for teens who didn't want to be seen checking out
"children's books". I can imagine those same kids would have a
hard time
looking at "younger teen" books. The message is that you ought
to be
reading what we have collected here for you because everything else is too
young or old for you.
RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library
655 Main ST
Coshocton, OH 43812
740-622-0956
Visit See YA Around: a Web site for librarians who work with teens
http://www.cplrmh.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <ILefkowitz@aol.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Teens vs. YA's--response
> As I read the many responses to this great question, I was impressed by
> Diedre's thoughts. One that stood out for me was the fact that the
> children's room has many different levels of reading materials and nobody
> thinks twice about it. Having a book on getting your period alongside
books
> about basic body parts doesn't seem to upset anyone. However, having
a
> "younger YA" novel alongside Forever or a similiar more mature YA
novel
> upsets people. Makes you think a bit differently.
>
> As with the children's Department, there will always be books of various
> levels dealing with a multitude of issues. If this upsets parents,
then
> they need to take a more active role in observing what their children and
> teens are reading. It really isn't up to us as Librarians to separate
and
> compartmentalize reading materials according to the maturity of specific
> individual potential users. I hope that makes as much sense to everyone as
> it does to me.
> --
> Ilene Lefkowitz
> Reference Department Head
> Kinnelon Public Library
> ILefkowitz@aol.com
>
>
>
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