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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 802


    PUBYAC Digest 802

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Lon Po Po
by "Myrna Sigal" <msigal@ansernet.rcls.org>
  2) Thanks for Mark Twain suggestions!!
by "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
  3) Circulating Comics
by "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
  4) Stumper
by <laanders@bellsouth.net>
  5) Any read-aloud Cat stories, gr. 4-6?
by "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
  6) Harry Potter Party
by Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
  7) Re: Teen Advisory Boards
by Ian McKinney <ianmck@tcpl.lib.in.us>
  8) Newsletter for Teachers
by "Karen Langridge" <klangrid@cooklib.org>
  9) Stumper - House surrounded by city
by Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
 10) Mystery Meal stumper
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
 11) Re: bookholder for bed
by Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
 12) Re: bookholder for bed
by Mary <mrc42@yahoo.com>
 13) RE: don't buy this puppet
by "Kathleen Gasi" <kzalargasi2@hotmail.com>
 14) SRP Incentives
by "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
 15) book clubs
by Paola.Ferate-Soto@ci.austin.tx.us
 16) Re: bookholder for bed
by "CDPL Children's Room - Debbie Clapp" <child2@cdpl.lib.in.us>
 17) Re: bookholder for bed
by Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>

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From: "Myrna Sigal" <msigal@ansernet.rcls.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Lon Po Po
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:36:33 CDT

A patron asked me an interesting question that has me stumped. In the book
Lon Po Po, Po Po means Grandmother. What does Lon mean?
Myrna Sigal
West Nyack Free Library
West Nyack, NY

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From: "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks for Mark Twain suggestions!!
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:36:41 CDT


Heartfelt thanks to the wonderful folks on this listserv.
>




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From: "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Circulating Comics
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:36:47 CDT


We bar code manilla envelopes.  You can write on the envelope itself
whatever you need to know - we have tried notes like 2 Superman or
Archie #56.  Either works fine in our case.  We rarely lose any, and if
we do, we consider them expendable since new issues come out regularly
to replace worn out/lost issues.
Carol Chatfield
Ilsley Public Library
75 Main Street=20
Middlebury, VT 05753
cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu

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From: <laanders@bellsouth.net>
To: PUBYAC@PRAIRIENET.ORG
Subject: Stumper
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:36:54 CDT

A co-worker has given me this query about a book read by the patron in the
70's, a present-day story, she thinks.  A girl must go to live in the
country, and then has to choose between returning to the city or staying in
the country.

Thank you for your help!

Linda Anderson, Nashville

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From: "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Any read-aloud Cat stories, gr. 4-6?
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Does anyone have a good suggestion for reading aloud a cat story for grades
4 through 6.  Can be a chapter from a book.  Thanks...

Sharon Castanteen
Children's Librarian
River Edge Public Library

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From: Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Harry Potter Party
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:06 CDT

My computer at work just died.  I had saved all the
Harry Potter Pary Ideas but did not back them up to a
disc.
Does anyone have a compilation they would send me?
Thanks!
Christina Johnson
Lebanon Public Libarary
marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com

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From: Ian McKinney <ianmck@tcpl.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Teen Advisory Boards
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:13 CDT

At 10:47 AM 6/25/02 CDT, you wrote:
>I am starting a Teen Advisory Board at our library.

Hi Gretchen,

Two things - first, an answer to your question: I do get some galley copies
from publishers, but I don't actually rely on my TAB reading and then
recommending - it's more that they are pretty in touch with what they like,
and they see things in bookstores and other places (the media as well) -
and also, lots of Teen Boards do a book buying trip at a local bookstore
(we've done that once). 

Second, in case no one has mentioned it yet, you might want to joing
TAGAD-L, an email discussion list for "Teen Advisory Groups - Advisor
Discussion."  To subscribe, send a blank email to
TAGAD-L-subscribe@topica.com.

--Ian

Ian McKinney
Young Adult Librarian
Tippecanoe County Public Library
765-429-0119
ianmck@tcpl.lib.in.us
http://www.tcpl.lib.in.us/ya/

Rizzo the Rat: You mean we came all the way out here for an egg?!
Pepe the Prawn: Sshh!  It could be filled with chocolate, okay?

(Pepe the Prawn's opinions are his own and do not necessarily reflect this
library's policy.)

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From: "Karen Langridge" <klangrid@cooklib.org>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>,
Subject: Newsletter for Teachers
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:20 CDT

Dear Librarians,

Thank you all very much for the following responses to my question. =20
Sample copies of newsletters were sent by Janice Borg
of Cook Memorial Public Library District,   Lynn Schofield-Dahl of Lake
Villa District Library, Jan Watkins of Skokie Public Library,  Irene
Wheeler of Indian Trails Public Library District, Becky Xavier of
Zion-Benton Public Library District, and an unnamed librarian (Dori
Middleton?) at Wayne County Regional Library for the Blind & Physically
Handicapped.  Good luck to everyone this coming school year!=20

Karen
----

Original query:

Hello, Sister and Fellow Librarians---

As a new school services coordinator, in August I'll send a newsletter
to teachers in my public library district.  Would you be willing to
share how your newsletters have been successful?

Please respond directly to me, and I'll submit your answers to
YLA-wired.  Any samples of your newsletters would also greatly be
appreciated.  Thanks!

Karen Langridge
School Services Coordinator
Cook Memorial Public Library District
413 N. Milwaukee Avenue
Libertyville, IL 60048
klangrid@cooklib.org
------

Responses:

 Hi, Karen.
  I am sending you the 4 issues of our Skokie School Connection Teacher
Newsletters by snail mail. (September, November, February, and May
issues.)  It did seem to make a difference this first year, as we
received more Assignment Alerts and more phone calls from teachers to
book visits and to ask about other services we do for teachers. We
promoted the newsletter at our Open House in the fall, as well as in our
Teacher Guide.

 Jan Watkins
 Head of Youth Services
 Skokie Public Library
 847-324-3151
---

Hi Karen,

I'm also relatively new as the school liaison at Glenview.

Will you be attending the Fall School Facilitators Meetings?  I'd love
to see some of your responses and the Fall meeting would be a great =
place
to share them.

We had a separate YS School newsletter some years back, but I'm planning
a different format and hope to send out at least 3-4 during the school
year.

Please let me know how yours works.

Helen Kowalczyk
School Liaison
Glenview Public Library
---

Hi, Karen.
I have found that most newsletters are ignored. Sad but true.
I have some teachers that are regular users, who frequently have
requests but the vast majority do not contact me at all.
this year I had a Teacher's Open House and distributed hundreds of
fliers to 11 schools and had 7 teachers come. (Even had lots of good =
food.)

Good luck.

Alice
---

Hi
We don't do a newsletter, but we do have a booklet that outlines out
services for area educators.  I'll send one over to you.

S. Lynn Schofield-Dahl
Head of Youth Services
Lake Villa District Library
1001 E. Grand Avenue
Lake Villa, IL  60046
847 356-7711 x 246
email  slynn@lvdl.org
---

    I send a monthly newsletter to all teachers in our district
announcing programs, services, and newsworthy items of interest to =
educators.
It is titled Teachers' Link. I deliver it to the secretaries who put it
in their mailboxes. I know that many teachers throw it away without ever
reading it but those who do take advantage of the information they find
there. I receive reserves for books I review, action on services
offered, and recently I was invited to serve on a school committe of =
teachers
promoting literacy projects. The newsletter helped teachers to know that
our goals are not unlike theirs and as a result of this publication we
have formed a partnership between the schools and the public library.
After I received my seat on the committee, we applied for a joint
literacy grant and received $19,000 to use to conduct a joint mentoring =
program
at the library in conjunction with our summer reading program. As =
witnessed
by our experience, a teacher newsletter can lead to bigger and better
service for your community!

Linda S. Slaninka
Swanton Public Library
Swanton, OH  43558
---

Hi Karen,
Here at Indian Trails Library we have a yearly newsletter which goes
out to the teachers in September.  Our newsletter is called "Indian
Trails Public Library District's School Services Guide for Teachers".
We have a get together at our library (usually the first week in
September) with the school librarians.  At this point we go over the
newsletter with the librarians along with signing up classes for some of
our visits to the schools.  At this meeting we also hand out these
newsletters for the librarians to take back to their schools to pass out
to the teachers.

The newsletter contains information regarding our book bag service,
institution cards, assignment alerts, classroom visits to the library
and visits/programs that we provide to the schools.  We visit every
school in our district and provide programs for grades K-7.

If you would like a copy of our newsletter, please let me know and I
can mail one to you.

Irene Wheeler

Irene Wheeler
Indian Trails Public Library
355 S. Schoenbeck Road
Wheeling, IL   60090
(847) 459-4100 ext. 251
iwheeler@itpld.lib.il.us
---

Hi,
 Each month we put an insert in our newsletter just for Educators. We
include all sorts of information usually based on something in the
 curriculum or what ever "Month of the ____" it is. Like Black History
Month etc.
It is very successful as we mail them to each teacher at the schools in
 the county and they are always coming in looking for stuff or
contacting  me about materials or services we offer.
Please check out our newsletter at our website (the website stinks but
the newsletter is good) at putnamco.lib.oh.us
 Traci

Traci Moritz
moritztr@oplin.lib.oh.us


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From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - House surrounded by city
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:26 CDT

A patron is looking for a book that I seem to remember being a previous
pubyac stumper. (Does the list have an archive where I could have
checked?)

Her description is as follows:
Story about a little pink or red house on a hill with trees and flowers.
Over time a city gets built up around it. The house is unhappy and moves
to another location.

The patron remembers reading this in the 1980s but thinks the book may
have been older. She does not remember the author or title.

Any suggestions will be most appreciated. Please reply directly to me,
and I will summarize for the list.

Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa CA
nbclsref@sonic.net

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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mystery Meal stumper
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:32 CDT

Years ago we attended a Mystery meal and I would like to do it for the =
older kids at our library. I remember that you would get a list of items =
to choose from for each course. I think you were allowed to pick 3 items =
off the list for each course. I remember ours was called a Hillbilly =
dinner and if you picked a pitchfork you got a fork. I think a lapcover =
was a napkin and staff of life was bread. Sometimes you would end up =
with food and have to eat with your fingers, other times you would have =
everything except food. Has anyone got a formula for one of these =
dinners? Thank You.
Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: bookholder for bed
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:39 CDT

I just bought one for my mother from SeniorShops in Salt Lake City.
Here's the address for the one on their web page:

http://www.seniorshops.com/bookholder.html
--
Becky Ann Smith
Youth Services Librarian
Logan Library, Logan, UT
bsmith@loganutah.org
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us


Brooke Roothaan wrote:
>
> I know someone out there has something that they either know about or
> use for reading in bed, I can't seem to find places to look.(I've tried
> Levenger's).What I'm looking for, or actually, a friend of mine is
> looking for is something to hold her book flat, while she reads in bed.
> She wants something that won't obstruct the view of the two pages as she
> reads, so, a book weight won't do. Also, it sounds like from what she
> tells me that she slouches, so it needs to be something that you don't
> need to be sitting totally erect for in order for it to work.
> TIA,
> Brooke Roothaan-
> Lincolnwood Public Library
> Lincolnwood, IL
> e-mail: brookelmroothaan@aol.com

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From: Mary <mrc42@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: bookholder for bed
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:46 CDT

please respond to the list - I'm 8 months pregnant
with carpal tunnel and would LOVE to have something
like that!

Mary Rogers
mrc42@yahoo.com

--- Brooke Roothaan <roothaan@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
wrote:
> I know someone out there has something that they
> either know about or
> use for reading in bed, I can't seem to find places
> to look.(I've tried
> Levenger's).What I'm looking for, or actually, a
> friend of mine is
> looking for is something to hold her book flat,
> while she reads in bed.
> She wants something that won't obstruct the view of
> the two pages as she
> reads, so, a book weight won't do. Also, it sounds
> like from what she
> tells me that she slouches, so it needs to be
> something that you don't
> need to be sitting totally erect for in order for it
> to work.
> TIA,
> Brooke Roothaan-
> Lincolnwood Public Library
> Lincolnwood, IL
> e-mail: brookelmroothaan@aol.com
>


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From: "Kathleen Gasi" <kzalargasi2@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: don't buy this puppet
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:53 CDT


I thought I sent this message the other day, but it hasn't come through yet.
Sorry if it ends up getting repeated.  I would like to know if anyone else
has used Folkmanis's cuckoo clock puppet successfully.  In the first posting
I sent, I warned about this "disappointing" puppet, but Robin responded that
she is pleased with hers.  Now I am wondering if maybe mine is simply
defective.  The cuckoo just won't poke out without getting all bunched up
and having to be forced out and I have to hold the clock with my other hand
so the clock doesn't get all distorted (but by the time I do all of this the
effect is ruined anyway).  And forget about the cuckoo popping in and out
quickly!  If anyone has any comments or tips for using it, please let me
know. I'm to the point where I'm ready to take it apart, cut the hole bigger
and add hard cardboard between the layers of fabric to help the clock hold
it's shape when the cuckoo pops out.  Thanks for your input!

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From: "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: SRP Incentives
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:37:59 CDT

We don't count minutes or books at all - we hand out a reading log, =
encourage the children to set their own goal, and then offer the same =
incentive to everyone in mid-August.  The past few years we gave tee =
shirts, but this year by popular demand it will be visors.  We call them =
"souvenirs" of the program, and to get one you need to come back with =
your log after a certain date to let us check your reading progress.  We =
have a few local sponsors who donate toward the souvenirs, so they don't =
cost us anything.
We have really good luck with this system, as you are competing only =
against yourself.  We frequently get logs mailed back from hundreds of =
miles away when kids are on vacation when souvenir day comes.
If we give out more logs than we have souvenirs, we tell the last batch =
of kids who sign up that they can't get the souvenir until the kids who =
have been reading all summer get one.  We've always had enough for =
everyone in the end, but that stops the creative folks who just drop in =
and copy titles in order to get the souvenir.
When I do school visits in the spring to promote summer reading, I make =
a point of saying that we are reading for fun;  choose books you enjoy =
and go for it.  We xerox extra pages to add to logs and praise them to =
the hilt for reading.
We don't miss the record keeping at all, and there are no squabbles =
about whether someone has read more than anyone else.
The first year we did this, people had a little trouble with the idea, =
but now we tell parents it's not about the bookkeeping, it's about =
enjoying the reading.  Our numbers remain consistently high, and the =
kids are proud of having earned the souvenir - which we see worn around =
town all the time.
Carol Chatfield
Ilsley Public Library
75 Main Street
Middlebury, VT 05753
cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu

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From: Paola.Ferate-Soto@ci.austin.tx.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: book clubs
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:38:05 CDT

Hi there,

I have recently joined this list and appreciate very much everyone's
comments and questions.

I am thinking about starting a book club for elementary school students. A
new law has passed that will not allow students to move on from 3rd to 4th
grade if they don't pass a state exam. Because of this, I would like to help
some very, very reluctant readers have a chance to improve their reading
skills and pass this test; however, I have never done a book club myself.

If you have experience running these, could you tell me:
What were the mechanics of your club?
How many sessions did you have?
How long were these?
Did you read together as a group or did you have incentives along the way
after book discussions?
What were your most successful titles?

Again, the club I am envisioning would be for very reluctant third grade
readers, who are not reading at grade level.

Please respond to me at paola.ferate-soto@ci.austin.tx.us

Thank you!
====================

Paola Ferate-Soto
Youth Services Librarian -- Austin Public Library
Serving: Cepeda, Oak Springs, St. John, University Hills and Windsor Park
Branches

3101 Oak Springs Dr.
Austin, TX 78702

Phone: 512.926.8669
Fax: 512.928-9719
E-mail: paola.ferate-soto@ci.austin.tx.us

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From: "CDPL Children's Room - Debbie Clapp" <child2@cdpl.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: bookholder for bed
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:38:11 CDT

A secret Santa (one who was SO secret, that I still don't know who it was
even after several years!) gave me a page holder.  It has four prongs that
keeps pages in place.  It is wonderful.  I have had MANY people ask me about
it and until recently could not give them any information.  I had searched
unsuccessfully for several years for another one-afraid that I would lose
this one and then I would be truely lost.  I had had no luck until recently
when my son found it advertised in a music catalog.  Evidently it is a tool
to help musicians keep their music open while playing.  The catalog that I
have seen it in is the Friendship House, Musical gifts, awards and Teaching
Aids.  They work very well, and they are cheap-about three dollars.

Debbie Clapp
Crawfordsville District Public Library
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brooke Roothaan" <roothaan@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:34 PM
Subject: bookholder for bed


> I know someone out there has something that they either know about or
> use for reading in bed, I can't seem to find places to look.(I've tried
> Levenger's).What I'm looking for, or actually, a friend of mine is
> looking for is something to hold her book flat, while she reads in bed.
> She wants something that won't obstruct the view of the two pages as she
> reads, so, a book weight won't do. Also, it sounds like from what she
> tells me that she slouches, so it needs to be something that you don't
> need to be sitting totally erect for in order for it to work.
> TIA,
> Brooke Roothaan-
> Lincolnwood Public Library
> Lincolnwood, IL
> e-mail: brookelmroothaan@aol.com
>
>

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From: Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: bookholder for bed
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:38:18 CDT


Here's a little something I came up with when I cared for my mom in my
pre-librarian life.  I went back to school after she left this life in
1990.

She had congestive Heart failure and toward the end was in bed most of
the time, reading.  When she complained about how holding the book open
was too tiring for her hands, I took a silver metal skirt/pants hanger,
with the little metal clips that slide to adjust for the size of
garment.  I would place the clips in each outer margin of the pages,
holding the book open so my mom could read.  One of those neck pillows
on her lap was perfect for helping to prop up the books.

Another little thing I thought up.  You know those little square soft
lunch coolers?

By unzipping the cover, and anchoring it between the matress and box
spring, my mom had a handy place to store her book, glasses, even her
spill-proof cup of water, hanging there, right where she could get to
it easily. 

anyway, I hope these suggestions help.

Dawn Sardes
Teen Services Librarian
Euclid Public Library
Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org
216-261-5300, ext. 138

"Libraries allow children to ask questions about the world and find the
answers. And the wonderful thing is that once a child learns to use a
library, the doors to learning are always open."
-Laura Bush, First Lady, June 2002


----- Original Message -----
From: Brooke Roothaan <roothaan@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
Date: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:34 pm
Subject: bookholder for bed

> I know someone out there has something that they either know about
> or
> use for reading in bed, I can't seem to find places to look.(I've
> tried
> Levenger's).What I'm looking for, or actually, a friend of mine is
> looking for is something to hold her book flat, while she reads in
> bed.
> She wants something that won't obstruct the view of the two pages
> as she
> reads, so, a book weight won't do. Also, it sounds like from what
> she
> tells me that she slouches, so it needs to be something that you
> don't
> need to be sitting totally erect for in order for it to work.
> TIA,
> Brooke Roothaan-
> Lincolnwood Public Library
> Lincolnwood, IL
> e-mail: brookelmroothaan@aol.com
>
>

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