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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 844
PUBYAC Digest 844
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: Library Card Swap
by bethany l tyler <btyler@mail.aacpl.net>
2) Re: Craft ideas for bedtime storyhour
by Hegquist <dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
3) Re: Wheels on the Bus Lyrics
by Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
4) RE: Gift Fund Policies
by "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
5) RE: weeding dinosaur books
by "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
6) Re: Golden Compass
by Janet Birckhead <jbirckhe@lmxac.org>
7) Re: storytime scheduling
by Nancy Thelen <nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us>
8) Re: Wheels on the Bus Lyrics
by Hegquist <dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
9) Junie B. Jones Quiz
by Joan Olson <joan.olson@nsanpete.k12.ut.us>
10) Re: weeding dinosaur books
by "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
11) Re: library cards
by "Barbara Osborn" <bosborn@triton.net>
12) Comic Book Workshop
by "Jessica Darcy" <jdarcy@townofgreenfield.org>
13) college students/tutoring
by "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>
14) Toddler Time Ideas (Long!)
by Susan Fisher <sfisher@lib.williamson-tn.org>
15) Junie B. Jones trivia
by "Christine Montgomery" <christine.montgomery@lpl.london.on.ca>
16) fiction that includes dialects
by "Swarthmore Children's" <swcsd@delco.lib.pa.us>
17) STUMPER - PixieTrink
by Nancy Schleh <nschleh@yahoo.com>
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From: bethany l tyler <btyler@mail.aacpl.net>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Library Card Swap
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:25:15 CDT
What a great idea. I would be happy to trade cards with anyone who sends
one. Thanks!
Bethany Tyler
Library Associate
Mountain Road Branch Library
4730 Mountain Road
Pasadena, MD 21122
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From: Hegquist <dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
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Subject: Re: Craft ideas for bedtime storyhour
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:25:22 CDT
Hi Christine! For my Sleepytime/Bedtime storyhour theme, my craft
was making night scene pictures by drawing with glue on black construction
paper and going over it with glitter. The children also drew on the paper
with chalk and had glow-in-the-dark star stickers. Good luck with
everything! The key is to have fun!!
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"Love, Trust, Faith...they are not equipped with lifetime
guarantees. They are blind as bats, but they are all we have."
~~~
Dana Hegquist
Children's Librarian
dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From: Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
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Subject: Re: Wheels on the Bus Lyrics
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This is reminding me of our storytime just last week. Our theme was
"Back
to School" and so we were singing "The Wheels on the Bus."
I asked if the
kids (3-5 year-olds) had any suggestions for verses that we could make up.
Two sweet little boys right up front had two brand new verses I thought you
all might like:
The boys on the bus go hit hit hit
-and-
The girls on the bus go pinch pinch pinch
So much for non-violence, huh?
Best,
Toni
Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion NE 68046
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us
Susan Ungham wrote:
> Dear Pubyackers,
> Susan Dailey's A Storytime Year has some good lyrics to "The Wheels on
> the Bus"
> suitable for a school bus version.
<snip>
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From: "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: Gift Fund Policies
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:25:35 CDT
Well, what we were taught is library school, and I think rightly, is that
the money's or donated materials should always fit your library's regular
collection development policy. Gifts should really have no special
conditions attatched to them. Donated materials should be given the same
consideration that purchased materials are given. There being no such
thing
as a "free" anything - processing time, shelf space, etc. JMO
Denise M. Pulgino Stout
Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Library
610-280-2672
dpstout@ccls.org
Why do dragons have long tails? They can't remember short stories!
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog,
it's too
dark to read." Groucho Marx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brenda Evans Childrens Librarian [SMTP:chroom@seidata.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:45 AM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Gift Fund Policies
>
> Hi, Oh Great Collective Minds,
> I have been asked to come up with a policy for the use of gift funds
> donated
> to the children's room. I have a few ideas, but would like to know what
> your
> policies are like. Could you please help me? Thanks.
> Brenda Evans
> Madison-Jefferson County Public Library
> 420 West Main Street
> Madison, Indiana 47250
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From: "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: weeding dinosaur books
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:25:41 CDT
Try the Weed of the Month Club at http://www.sunlink.ucf.edu/weed/
-- =
Dinosaurs were covered in March of 1998 (scroll down on the left side to =
find 1998). =20
Good luck!
Andrea Johnson
Cook Memorial Public Library
ajohnson@cooklib.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library =
[SMTP:murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:39 PM
> To: PUBYAC
> Subject: weeding dinosaur books
>=20
> Hello all,
> It's time to weed our dinosaur books! I seem to remember a discussion
> somewhere, sometime. Does anyone know of a good website or archive on
> the topic of weeding juvenile dinosaur collections? For example, is
> weeding by publication date too drastic, or not? Thanks!
> --Jendy Murphy
> Albany PublicLibrary
>=20
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From: Janet Birckhead <jbirckhe@lmxac.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Golden Compass
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:25:47 CDT
The Long Branch Free Public Library houses "The Golden Compass" and
its
sequels in Young Adult.
At our library, the cutoff for Young Adult is grade 7 (which, in practical
terms, usually means that books reviewed for grades 5-8 end up in
Children's,
books for grades 7+ end up in Young Adult, and books for grades 6-8 or 6-9
may
end up in Children's or in Young Adult, depending on which selector wants
the
title). I order for Young Adult and try to check with Dennis before
starting
a new series, to avoid unintentional overlap. (I think the
"Alice" books by
Naylor are the only intentional overlap.)
Jennifer Baker wrote:
> Quick survey...
> Where does your library house the book "The Golden
> Compass" by Philip Pullman?
> Children's or Young Adult?
>
> Please send responses to jbaker93711@yahoo.com
> Thank you!
> ~jennifer
>
> =====
> ~jenniferbaker
> "If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
> ~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the
Clones")
>
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From: Nancy Thelen <nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: storytime scheduling
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:25:54 CDT
Hi,
The schedule I use now roughly follows the school year calendar.
I do four sessions from September through May/June. Each session
is six weeks. I start the week after Labor Day for the first one.
This takes me to mid-October. The next session starts the first
week of November and ends just before Christmas. No stories are
done the week of Thanksgiving. The third session starts the week
that students return from Christmas break and goes until
mid-February. I take a break from storytimes in March to focus on
older kids. In my area, March is usually designated as Reading
Month in the schools. Spring break is around the first week of
April and so I start storytimes again the week after Spring
break. So far, it has worked well. This is the last session I do
and it lasts until mid-May. By that time, I am usually gearing up
for Summer Reading. The past few summers, I have held a drop-in
storytime for preschool-age 7. It hasn't been as well attended as
the other times, though I am not sure why. I do get a different
bunch of kids in the summer. I should probably also mention that
I am the only staff member in the "Children's Department" and am
in a small, rural library. I find this schedule works well for me
and the children that come to storytimes. I used to do 8 week
sessions, but found that scheduling them was harder.
--
Nancy Thelen
920 W. Michigan Ave
Three Rivers Public Library
Three Rivers, MI
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From: Hegquist <dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Wheels on the Bus Lyrics
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:34:34 CDT
Hi! I just loved the "Hurry Hurry Catch the School Bus" lyrics.
Can you give me the words to "Hurry Hurry Drive the Fire Truck"?
That
would also be wonderful for a transportation themed storytime that I do.
Thanks in advance. --Dana (Long Island, New York)
===========================================================
"Love, Trust, Faith...they are not equipped with lifetime
guarantees. They are blind as bats, but they are all we have."
~~~
Dana Hegquist
Children's Librarian
dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From: Joan Olson <joan.olson@nsanpete.k12.ut.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Junie B. Jones Quiz
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Hi oh great minds!
I am looking for a Trivia Quiz for Junie B. Jones. Random used to have
one but no longer posts it. Does anyone else out there have one they
would share? I would also be interested in getting any games, etc. on
Junie B.
Thank You,
Joan Olson
Spring City Elementary
450 E. 100 N. Box 159
Spring City, Utah
84662-0159
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From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: weeding dinosaur books
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:34:48 CDT
Thank you to all who suggested SUNLINK for weeding advice!
-Jendy Murphy
"Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library" wrote:
> Hello all,
> It's time to weed our dinosaur books! I seem to remember a discussion
> somewhere, sometime. Does anyone know of a good website or archive on
> the topic of weeding juvenile dinosaur collections? For example, is
> weeding by publication date too drastic, or not? Thanks!
> --Jendy Murphy
> Albany PublicLibrary
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From: "Barbara Osborn" <bosborn@triton.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: library cards
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:34:55 CDT
Fellow PUBYACERS,
Is it too late to participate? The library card display sounds good to me.
I will trade cards upon request.
Following is my library's address:
Barb Osborn
Allegan Public Library
331 Hubbard St.
Allegan MI 49010
My e-mail address is bosborn@triton.net.
Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: library cards
>ON my request for library cards my address ended up at
>the bottom of the e-mail instead of right after the
>message I wrote. My address is:
>Suzanne Kirk
>Children's Services
>172 Eminence Terrace
>Eminence KY 40019
>
>If you send me a card and would like one in return
>just include you address in the envelope. Thanks
>
>>
>
>
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From: "Jessica Darcy" <jdarcy@townofgreenfield.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Comic Book Workshop
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:35:01 CDT
Does anyone have a recommendation for an author or illustrator of graphic
novels and/or comic books who does workshops for children ages 8-15?
I have a listing for a professional colorist from Massachusetts named James
Brown - have any of you used him for a program? If so, what was the
program
like, and would you recommend him?
Any input would be greatly appreciated!
You can reply to me directly at jdarcy@townofgreenfield.org
and I will
compile information I recieve.
Many thanks,
Jessica
--
Jessica M. Darcy
Assistant Children's Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
--
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From: "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: college students/tutoring
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Greetings!
I'm seeking suggestions for working with local college students.
One of our local colleges would like to set up 'something' with the library
for some of their education students. They are thinking along the lines of
reading help, tutoring, homework help, etc. I'm not sure they know exactly
what they want, except 'whatever' we come up with will be on Saturday
mornings.
Has anyone done anything with local college students that has been
successful? Any words of wisdom, advice, suggestions? I'm looking
for
something relatively low maintenance (on my part) and thinking maybe basic
reading help or a reading buddies type of thing would work well.
Thanks for your help.
Cathy Chesher
Children's Librarian
Adrian Public Library
143 E. Maumee St.
Adrian, MI 49221
517-265-2265
cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us
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From: Susan Fisher <sfisher@lib.williamson-tn.org>
To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Toddler Time Ideas (Long!)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:35:14 CDT
I'm am very appreciative of all
the great suggestions. I wanted to share the ideas with the list, but
my computer will not allow me to do compilations, for some reason, so I
am summarizing all the ideas I received.
First, here are some suggestions of books to use as resources for
planning:
"Storytime Year" by Susan Dailey
"Toddle On Over: by Robin Davis
"Flannelboard Stories for Toddlers and Infants"
"Literate Beginnings" by Debbi Ann Jeffery
"What Works: Developmentally Appropriate Library Programs for Very
Young Children--New
York Library Association
"Theme-a Saurus"
"Felt Board Fingerplays"
"I'm a Little Teapot" by Jane Cobb
"Baby Games" by Elaine Martin
Flint Public Library's "Ring-a-Ring O' Roses"
Storytime Sourcebook by Carolyn Cullum
"FingerTales" by Joan Hilyer Phelps
"Fiddle-Dee-Dee"
Books for reading to toddlers:
Spot books
Daisy books by Jane Simmons
books by Donald Crews, Jez Alborough, Eric Carle
Five Little Monkeys
Brown Bear, Brown Bear
Music for toddlers:
"The More We Get Together"
Bean Bag Song by Hap Palmer
Bean Bag Rock by Georgiana Stewart
"If You're Happy and You Know It"
"Hands are for Clapping"
"Alabama, Mississippi"
"The Silly Dance Contest"
Hap Palmer's "Sally the Swinging Snake" CD
Suggestions:
To deal with "straying attention", bounces and tickles work well.
Call
out "everybody find a lap!" Bounce a puppet or stuffed animal on
your
knee to demonstrate. Some bounces:
"Father, Mother, and Uncle John"(bounce child on
lap to rhythm)
Father, Mother and Uncle John
Rode to the doctor one by one.
Father fell off(lean child in one direction)
Mother fell off
(lean child in opposite direction)
But Uncle John rode on and on and on. (bounce in upright position).
"Bounce Me"
Bounce me, bounce me, on your knees.
Bounce me, bounce me, pretty please
Bounce me, Bounce me here (lean child) and there (lean other way)
Bounce me, bounce me everywhere! (Lean child in a big
circle)
"Criss Cross Applesauce" (seat child on your lap facing away
from you)
Criss cross (draw a giant
pretend "X" on child's back)
Applesauce (squeeze child's shoulders)
Spiders crawling up your back! (run fingers up your child's back)
Cool breeze (blow on child's neck)
Tight squeeze (hug)
Now you've got the
shivers! (tickle child's belly).
Another attention-getter is to take out a stuffed bear
and
begin dressing him, but put clothes on the wrong places
(i.e.,
hat on foot, pants on head, etc.) and invite the
children to
help Mr. Bear. This can go along with Watanabe's
book, "How
Do I Put It One?"
Even the youngest child can help correct Mr. Bear and
it gets
them all involved.
One person blows bubbles on the children as they come
in.
Some people advise using same starting and ending songs
every
time, since little ones love repetition. Some
give
parent/caregivers a printout of songs and rhymes used
every
week, so they can sing them at home. Most
programs are about
20-25 minutes.
One person suggests bouncing bean bags on a
parachute--she
uses this to end her programs. In a variation of
that, I used
an old bedsheet and we bounced bean bags while we
chanted
"Five Little Monkeys" and when "one fell
off", I tossed a bean
bag off. Kids LOVED it!
Good luck to everyone who is trying a toddler program.
I've
had one so far, and had very favorable response from
children
and parents. I've intensively used all the
resources the list
suggested, and I appreciate everyone's responses so
much.
Susan
--
Susan Fisher
Bethesda Public Library
4905 Bethesda Road
Thompson Station, TN 37179
615.790.1887
fax: 615.760.8426
sfisher@lib.williamson-tn.org
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From: "Christine Montgomery" <christine.montgomery@lpl.london.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Junie B. Jones trivia
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I had asked for some sample Junie trivia and here's what I got:
(Thanks to Kerri Meeks and Jan Owens)
1. What does the "B" stand for? Beatrice
2. What is Junie B.'s bus driver's name? Mr. Woo
3. When did the first Junie book come out? 1992
4. How do you pronounce Junie B.'s brother's name? Ollie rhymes with
=
Jolly
5. How long does it take to write a book, have the illustrations =
completed and the book published? It really depends on the book. For
the =
Junie series, it takes at least a year.
6. How many years was Junie B. in kindergarten? 9
7. How many Junie B. books are there right now? 18
8. What is Junie B.'s "name" when she's in trouble? Missy
9. Do you know Grandpa Miller's first name? Frank
10. Which letter does Junie B. write best in kindergarten? O
11. What did Junie B. break in the Media Center and how? Sharpened a
red =
crayon with an electric pencil sharpener
12. Who are Junie's best two kindergarten friends? Grace and Lucille
13. What does Mrs. mean when she points at Junie B.'s chair? Sit down
14. Who takes care of Junie when Mother is at work? Grandpa or
Grandma =
Miller
15. What is Paulie Puffer's middle name? Allen
16. Where did Junie B. see Mrs. outside school? Grocery store.=20
17. What is Junie B.'s kindergarten room number? Nine
18. Who is the cheese man? School picture taker who makes you say =
"cheese"
19. What color are Junie B.'s eyes? Robin's egg blue with a hint of
=
lavender
20. Who told Junie B. there was a monster under her bed? Paulie
Allen =
Puffer
21. What is Junie's stuffed elephant's name? Philip Johnny Bob
22. Why is it good that her school picture turned out to be so bad in =
Junie B. Jones Has a Monster Under Her Bed? She knew it would scare away =
the monster under her bed. =20
23. What were Junie B.'s mittens made out of? Fake furry animals
24. What is the name of Junie B's first grade teacher? Mr. Scary
25. What did Junie B. take to show-and-tell in first grade?
Her new =
eyeglasses
26. Who is Mrs. Weller? School nurse
27. What is the "E Game"? An eye test
28. Who calls her Junie without the "B" and makes her mad?
May
=09
In which book does Junie B. Jones shoe fly off her foot during a race?
Junie B. Jones is Captain Field Day
In which book is there a school carnival?
Junie B. Jones and the Yucky Blucky Fruitcake
In which book does Junie B's class take a field trip to the farm?
Junie B. Jones Has a Peep in Her Pocket
In which book does Junie B. almost have an accident?=20
Junie B. Jones and the Stupid Smelly Bus
In which book does Junie B. get a baby brother?
Junie B. Jones and a Little Monkey Business
In which book does Junie B. wear a lot of hats to school to hide her hair?
Junie B. Jones is a Beauty Shop Guy
In which book does Junie B. spell grape juice on her clothes?
Junie B. Jones is A Graduation Girl
In which book are Junie B. school pictures taken?
Junie B. Jones Has a Monster Under Her Bed
In which book does Junie B. go to a wedding?
Junie B. Jones is (Almost) a Flower Girl
In which book does Junie B. see her teacher kissing in the grocery store?
Junie B. Jones and Some Sneaky Peeky Spying
In which book does Junie B. sleepover at Lucille's Nanna's house?
Junie B Jones is a Party Animal
In which book does Junie B. get glasses?
Junie B. , First Grader, (at last!)
In which book does Junie B. wear a princess collar and Cinderella gloves =
to school?
Junie B. Jones Loves Handsome Warren
In which book does Junie B. fix a toilet?
Junie B. Jones and That Meanie Jim's Birthday
In which book does Junie B find out she has a secret admirer?
Junie B. Jones and the Mushy Gushy Valentime
In which book does Junie B decide she wants to be a janitor when she grows =
up?
Junie B. Jones and Her Big Fat Mouth
In which book does Junie B get new mittens?
Junie B. Jones is Not a Crook
In which book is there a pet show at school?
Junie B. Jones Smells Something Fishy
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Christine Montgomery
Byron Branch Library
1295 Commissioners Rd. West
London, ON N6K 1C9
(519) 471-4000
Christine.Montgomery@lpl.london.on.ca
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From: "Swarthmore Children's" <swcsd@delco.lib.pa.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet. org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: fiction that includes dialects
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:37:44 CDT
A patron will be teaching a class to new teachers entitled "Cultural
Conflict". She is looking for children's fiction, for grades 1 - 3,
that
includes characters speaking in different dialects. The new teachers will
have urban classes with children of immigrants from all over the world -
Latino, West African, Eastern European, etc. and she wants them to have
literature available that reflects their different dialects. She would
appreciate any suggestions - this is definitely a question for a collective
of memories! Thank you.
Sharon Ford
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From: Nancy Schleh <nschleh@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC LIST <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER - PixieTrink
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:37:51 CDT
Hello Pubyaccers!
A patron is looking for a children's book with a character named "Pixie
Trink" who had red hair and freckles. The book would be at least 50
years
old. We have looked on NoveList, Google, Characters in Children's
Literature, Amazon.com, Index to Fairy Tales, & Encyclopedia of Fairies.
It is not Zeee by Enright (which was our best shot so far). Does this
ring a bell with any of you, O Wise Ones?
TIA
Nancy D Schleh, Youth Services Librarian
Chinn Park Regional Library
Prince William, Virginia
703.792.4860
nschleh@pwcgov.org
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