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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:05 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 862


    PUBYAC Digest 862

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Late storytime arrivals
by Loralee Armstrong <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
  2) Storytime Late Arrivals / Special Needs Adults
by "Wagner, Jenifer" <Jenifer.Wagner@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US>
  3) RE: What age is a YA?
by "Jessica Mize" <JMize@wpl.lib.oh.us>
  4) Re: Late storytime arrivals
by Diane Macklin <dmacklin@sympatico.ca>
  5) Re: What age is a YA?
by Christine Dalgetty <dalgettyc@bpl.on.ca>
  6) Ohio libraries---record retention policy
by "Tricia Bohanon" <bohanopa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  7) Re: What age is a YA?
by "Olivia Spicer" <ospicer@loudoun.gov>
  8) Re: Storytime Theme
by "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
  9) RE: Phonics Recommendations
by "Becky Davis" <bdavis@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
 10) Re: seed help
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 11) Re:Elsie Dinsmore
by donna scott <storywoman41@yahoo.com>
 12) RE: What age is a YA?
by Nicole Marcucilli <nmarc@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
 13) Shapes Storytime (LONG)
by Kerry.Rake@ci.austin.tx.us
 14) Re: Easy Reader core collection?
by Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
 15) Re: Storytime Theme
by Joan Olson <joan.olson@nsanpete.k12.ut.us>
 16) Re: Phonics Recommendations
by "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
 17) RE: a sorry-we-didn't-have-it form or note
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
 18) monster bag puppet pattern
by Kindt_CA <Kindt_CA@co.brown.wi.us>
 19) Re: special needs adults in storytime
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
 20) Science Fair Workshop
by Steffens@libcoop.net
 21) Re: What age is a YA?
by Janet Birckhead <jbirckhe@lmxac.org>
 22) Re: Science Fair Workshop
by "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
 23) Re: Late storytime arrivals
by "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
 24) Children's Librarian job annnoucement
by "LibraryAdmin" <Libraryadmin@ci.berkeley.ca.us>
 25) scavenger hunts
by Tammy Federspiel <tfeders@esls.lib.wi.us>

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From: Loralee Armstrong <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Late storytime arrivals
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Quoting Rosa Rigotti <rsrigotti@yahoo.ca>:

> Hello People,
>
> How do you deal with parents and children arriving
> late for storytime programs? 
>
> At one of our branches, some families are notorious
> for this, arriving as much as 20 minutes late.   We
> find that latecomers really distract the flow of
> storytime and it takes some time to settle everyone
> down again. 
>
> I am just wondering if anybody had any ways of dealing
> with this problem successfully or do you simply let it
> go?  We have talked to the parents who are late, but
> they don't seem to get it.
>
> Does anybody use a policy that if you don't show up
> within 10-15 of storytime start time, you can't join
> the group?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Rosa
>
>
> Rosa Rigotti
> Essex County Library
If you have storytime in a separate room just lock the door.  I had
quite a problem last year the same way but after giving each parent a
letter that stated quite clearly (but politely) that latecomers would
NOT be admitted and locking the door five minutes after we started,
the problem cleared itself.  My storytimes only run for half an hour
so anyone coming in more than five minutes late missed a sizable
portion of the session.  Plus I run storytimes back to back with only
a ten minute break between the toddler and the pre-schoolers so we
really need to run on time.

Loralee Armstrong
Tacoma Public Library

"Meddle not with dragons for thou art crunchy and taste good with
catsup"

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From: "Wagner, Jenifer" <Jenifer.Wagner@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Storytime Late Arrivals / Special Needs Adults
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I'm responding to both threads--bear with me.

Latecomers will always be coming.  I let them in.  I don't acknowledge their
arrival, however, because that is even more disruptive to the program.  I do
half-hour programs and people have arrived twenty-five minutes late.  They
definitely don't get much out of coming but at least they are then in the
library to select books to read to their children on their own.  I always
start programs on time (no waiting for at least five minutes after the
stated start) because it is a disservice to people who are present to delay
the start (or run over the stated end time) as there are many people who
have other things they must do like meet a kindergarten bus or pick-up or
drop-off another child and they deserve the program they planned on
attending.  So much for rant number one.

I've had special needs adults come to open programs.  I have no problem with
it though I prefer it if they attend programs that are designated as "all
ages" or "family programs" because it doesn't seem right to bring adults to
programs labeled as ages 2-5.  I, too, believe we must
accommodate/acknowledge both the fact that the programs are enjoyed but also
are they "age-appropriate".  It is merely semantics but really--adults are
adults no matter their intellect!

Feel free to object to these, my personal opinions.

Jenifer Wagner, Librarian
Dakota County Library, Heritage
20085 Heritage Drive
Lakeville, MN  55044
Phone: (651) 365-3219
e-mail: jenifer.wagner@co.dakota.mn.us
fax: (651) 365-3209

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From: "Jessica Mize" <JMize@wpl.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: What age is a YA?
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I try to market mine as grades 6-12.  I actually had a 10 year old sixth =
grader sign up for summer reading.  Never thought I'd have to worry =
about kids that young!

Jessica Mize
Young Adult Librarian
Westerville Public Library
126 South State Street
Westerville, OH  43081
614-882-7277 x127 (desk)
614-882-4160 (fax)
jmize@wpl.lib.oh.us <mailto:jmize@wpl.lib.oh.us>=20
http://www.wpl.lib.oh.us/teens.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: M. Neiman [mailto:mellifur@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:46 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?


Our YA area is for students in grades 7-12. That means that twelve
year-olds are included, since 7th graders are often 12 going on 13.

Miriam


At 11:39 PM 9/16/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I am have started a YA booktalk for ages 13-18. It is the first program =
we
>have had for YA's and I am curious as to what age other librarries =
start
at.
>I only had two 13 year olds come the first time (yesterday was the =
first
>meeting) . I have had responses from 12 year olds but the literature =
says
>that you should be cleat that your program is only for YA's or it will =
get
>the reputation as a children's program and they will not come. Recently =
I
>read in Patrick Jones book that he considered 12 year old to be YA. He
>doesn't really say you should include them in YA programming, but that =
kids
>are reading more advanced books these days. In another book 14. Before =
I
>consider changing my age limit what do other libraries consider YA.

M. Neiman
neiman@glasct.org
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT
http://www.wtmlib.com

The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my =
organization.

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From: Diane Macklin <dmacklin@sympatico.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Late storytime arrivals
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:53:01 CDT

I used to wait 5 minutes to start my storytime but running back to back
classes meant each class started progressively later.  My programs now
start promptly and all stragglers are welcome.  I continue to read or sing
while motioning the latecomers into the group.  I find most are apologetic
and enter with as little disruption as possible.  I now also leave the
storyhour room door open hoping to attract new participants.  At first I
worried about bolters but it has never been an issue and parents are
usually lurking nearby.   Anyone peeking in is welcomed into the room.
Although their age may not be appropriate for that particular program they
are usually polite enough to stay until the end when I can talk to them
about other, more age appropriate, programs we offer.
More disruptive to me are my Tales for Two's storytimes where a group of
friends register then chat with each other during the program instead of
interacting with their child.

Diane

Rosa Rigotti wrote:

> Hello People,
>
> How do you deal with parents and children arriving
> late for storytime programs?
>
> At one of our branches, some families are notorious
> for this, arriving as much as 20 minutes late.   We
> find that latecomers really distract the flow of
> storytime and it takes some time to settle everyone
> down again.
>
> I am just wondering if anybody had any ways of dealing
> with this problem successfully or do you simply let it
> go?  We have talked to the parents who are late, but
> they don't seem to get it.
>
> Does anybody use a policy that if you don't show up
> within 10-15 of storytime start time, you can't join
> the group?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Rosa
>
> Rosa Rigotti
> Essex County Library
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

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From: Christine Dalgetty <dalgettyc@bpl.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
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> We are trying to deal with this issue at our library as well (Its on our
agenda for
thursday actually!)  We are a medium sized public library whose children's
department has
traditionally served up to grade 9.  What we are finding is that with
developing a YA
colection with programs, av collections etc our users are younger than we
had thought.
Our teen card is for grades 9-12 but our teen users are much younger. With a
facility
expansion planned in the next 2 years we need to identify the user group and
allocate
space and resources accordingly. Our staff seem reluctant to encourage
younger yYAs to
use the YA collection because of the "adult themes" that a lot of the
material deals
with.  Also our YA collection includes 14+ videos and we have an ongoing
discussion about
whether they are appropriate for YAs.  Our selectors will not purchase CDs
with parental
warnings on them for this reason and as a result our CD collection does not
reflect what
they really want. I would love to hear some feedback on this issue,either on
the list or
email at dalgettyc@bpl.on.ca
Thanks,
Christine Dalgetty
Youth Services
Burlington Public Library
Burlington, ON
CANADA

I am have started a YA booktalk for ages 13-18. It is the first program we
> have had for YA's and I am curious as to what age other librarries start
at.
> I only had two 13 year olds come the first time (yesterday was the first
> meeting) . I have had responses from 12 year olds but the literature says
> that you should be cleat that your program is only for YA's or it will get
> the reputation as a children's program and they will not come. Recently I
> read in Patrick Jones book that he considered 12 year old to be YA. He
> doesn't really say you should include them in YA programming, but that
kids
> are reading more advanced books these days. In another book 14. Before I
> consider changing my age limit what do other libraries consider YA.
>

Christine Dalgetty
Youth Services
Burlington Public Library
2331 New Street
Burlington, ON
L7R 1J4
(905)639-3611 x 132

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From: "Tricia Bohanon" <bohanopa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Ohio libraries---record retention policy
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:53:15 CDT

Hi!  I am interested in instituting a record retention policy in our
library.  Would anybody working at a library in Ohio with a policy in place
be kind enough to fax or email a copy to my attention?  It would be very
much appreciated. 

Tricia Bohanon, Director
Grafton-Midview Public Library
983 Main St.
Grafton, OH  44044
www.grafton.lib.oh.us
440-926-3317 (p)
440-926-3000 (f)
bohanopa@oplin.lib.oh.us

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From: "Olivia Spicer" <ospicer@loudoun.gov>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:53:38 CDT


Our systems starts all YA programs at age 12.

Olivia I. Spicer
Youth Services Librarian
Loudoun County Public Library
Rust Library
380 Old Waterford Rd.
Leesburg, VA 20176
Tel: 703-771-5624
ospicer@loudoun.gov

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From: "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
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Subject: Re: Storytime Theme
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:54:30 CDT

Hi Leverne,

A favourite  autumn craft of mine is to make different shapes  and colors =
of leaves on construction paper. Cut them out and hand them to the kids =
with an outline of a tree truck. The kids them paste on the colored leaves =
and presto, they have an autumn tree.

A faourite song is "Autumn Leaves are falling down" by Sahri and Jerry =
Talllon" If you need the words, please e-mail me.
Hope it helps
Patricia
>>> pac@spart.spt.lib.sc.us 09/17/02 12:39AM >>>
Hello, I'm thinking of doing a storytime theme based on
trees and leaves. Can anyone suggest books, fingerplays, and crafts =
suitable
for children ages 3-5.
Leverne McBeth
levernem@infodepot.org=20

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From: "Becky Davis" <bdavis@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
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Subject: RE: Phonics Recommendations
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Hello Christine

Please share any recommendations your receive.

Thanks
Becky Davis
Librarina
bdavis@ascpl.lib.oh.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Christine Neirink [mailto:c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us]
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:39 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Phonics Recommendations


Hi ... If any of you know of a good phonics series or phonics
workbook, I would really appreciate your e-mailing recommendations to
me.  Our system is looking to improve its phonics collection.

Thanks very much (And I will be happy to share the recommendations I
receive with any of you who might be interested).

Christine Neirink
Youth Services Coordinator
Bay County Library System
c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: seed help
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:54:43 CDT

The Surprise Garden by Zoe Hall has a great chart in the back. We made
oversized seeds out of felt and had the kids match them to the right
vegetable for a storytime. It was great fun, and the book is available in
BigBook format as well. Good luck!
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From: "P Stack" <p.stack@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: seed help


> Hi Pubyac-ers,
> Do any of you great minds out there know of a book for second graders
> that would help them identify seeds?  It's not just garden type of
> seeds.  Our whole second grade is doing this and of course the
> teacher didn't check to see if we had any books.  I realize it can't
> help me this year but at least I'll be ready for next year.  TIA.
>
> **********************************************************************
> Run
>

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From: donna scott <storywoman41@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re:Elsie Dinsmore
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:54:50 CDT

Hi, we have the Sugar Creek Gang series in our system.
 I read one when they first showed up, just to see,
and it is average writing, not bad.  The series is
about a group of boys solving mysteries, Christian
fiction, so it certainly fills a slot.  Hope this
helps.
Donna Scott
Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library
Tampa, FL
--- marthajack@att.net wrote:
> "We have had a patron request to add the following
> series' to the
>  children's collection:
>  Elsie Dinsmore
>  Trailblazers
>  The Sugar Creek Gang
>
>  Is anyone familiar with any of these series?  How
> is the overall quality
>  of the writing?"
>
>
> I'll never forget my mother telling me about reading
> these when she was a
> little girl, and describing in great detail how
> Elsie's father wanted her to
> play the piano (to show off to some of his friends)
> but she refused because
> it
> was a Sunday and she knew it was wrong to play on a
> Sunday, so he made her
> sit
> on the piano bench all day until finally she fainted
> from hunger and
> exhaustion! Quite an impression it made on my mom
> and on me too, 50 years
> later!
>


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From: Nicole Marcucilli <nmarc@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
To: Amber McCrea <mccrea.amber@als.lib.wi.us>
Subject: RE: What age is a YA?
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:54:56 CDT

I wish my YA's included this age group!  In my library it is high
schoolers only, ages 14 and up.  They are a great group, but hard to reach
so I agree, if you can reach them in middle school or so, that is the best
in terms of YA programs and such.

Nicole Marcuccilli, YA Librarian
Glenview (IL) Public Library

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Amber McCrea wrote:

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> Leesa,
>
> Those 12 year olds are exactly who you want to be in your programs if you
> are just starting a YA program.  12 year olds are more enthusiastic about
> library events and just love to be included in the YA section.  More
> importantly, next year when they turn 13 you will have a ready base of
word
> of mouth publicity which when dealing with YA's is the most important type
> of publicity.
>
> Amber McCrea
> Youth Services Librarian
> Beloit Public Library
> Beloit, WI
>
>

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From: Kerry.Rake@ci.austin.tx.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Shapes Storytime (LONG)
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Thanks to all of you who sent responses to my question about activities and
books for a shapes storytime.  As requested by several folks, below are the
responses that I received.  A few people attached documents or offered to
fax information, but I did not want to put their addresses in this email,
lest they be swamped with requests that they can't handle.  If you sent me
information like an attachment or a fax and you would like to offer it to
other people, then please go ahead and email the list with your information!
=)

Kerry Rake
Youth Librarian
Austin Public Library
3101 Oak Springs Dr.
Austin, TX 78702
(512) 926-8669
kerry.rake@ci.austin.tx.us <mailto:kerry.rake@ci.austin.tx.us>


The You Can Count on Mother Goose program uses Taking a Walk/Caminando which
is bilingual and The Shape of Things.  After reading the books, we give the
children cut-outs of various shapes and go on a shape walk looking for
shapes in the library.  It's a lot of fun.  It makes a good parent and child
activity.


One that I find very easy to do with toddlers is "Clancy the Clown" from the
now defunct Kidstuff magazine.  I cut out a mouth, hair, eyes, and different
shaped noses.  I ask the kids to find his perfect nose.  We go through a
green triangle, blue square, etc..then we find a perfect red circle.  Of
course, this is going under the assumption that all clowns have perfect red
noses! ;)
I think there might have been a catchy rhyme but I just talk my way through
it.
Hope it helps.

For my toddlers program on shapes, I cut out different shapes in flannel and
then handed them out to the children.  I would then ask for the squares to
come up, the circles, etc. asking the children to tell me what color their
shape was.  The parents and kids really liked participating with the flannel
board.

I have a very simple flannelboard with group participation.  Cut out enough
felt shapes for each child to recieve one.  I have 7 pink squares, 7 red
triangles, 7 yellow stars, 7 orange circles and 7 blue rectangles (I usually
have between 25 and 35 kids participating).  I walk through the group and
let each kid pick out the shape they want.  The kids like to choose their
own, but if it is easier for you, just hand them out.
Sing to "The Farmer in the Dell"
Who has a shape today?
Who has a shape today?
Who has a pink square?
Who has a shape today?

Then the kids with the pink square comes up and puts them on the flannel
board.  Continue through all of the shapes.  I make sure to call out the
color as well as the shape so that those kids who aren't as familiar with
the shape can go by the color.  This works really well, is easy to make.


You could do the "Three Corners" fingerplay:
My hat it has three corners,
Three corners has my hat.
If it did not have three corners,
It would not be my hat!

(sort of silly, but at least it introduces triangles!)
As for books, try these:
_The wing on a flea_ by Ed Emberley
_Sea shapes_ by Suse MacDonald
_Fire engine shapes_ by Bruce McMillan
_Round is a mooncake_ by Roseanne Thong
_Snuffle's house_ by Daphne Faunce-Brown
_Word Bird's shapes_ by Jane Moncure
Hope this helps!

Hi.  This is a rhyme I made up to go with very simple flannel pieces that
should be self-evident:
A star of green
a circle of pink
a purple rectangle
what do you think?

A square of red
a triangle of blue
a yellow diamond
just for you.

Here are some websites that have ideas for a shapes story hour:
http://www.atozkidsstuff.com/shapes.html
<http://www.atozkidsstuff.com/shapes.html>
http://www.icomm.ca/daycare/cardsi13.html#CIR1450
<http://www.icomm.ca/daycare/cardsi13.html#CIR1450>
http://www.hummingbirded.com/number_shape.html#shapes
<http://www.hummingbirded.com/number_shape.html#shapes>
http://www.stepbystepcc.com/themes2.html
<http://www.stepbystepcc.com/themes2.html>
http://www.storyplace.org/preschool/activities/readinglist.asp?id=37
<http://www.storyplace.org/preschool/activities/readinglist.asp?id=37>


I had a lot of fun doing this storytime last year.
>From what I can recall (I am not at work today and do not have the program
in front of me),

I used the book "Round as a Mooncake" by Roseanne Thong- beautiful book and
the kids loved it.
I cut out circles, shapes and squares, etc. and passed them out to all the
kids. Then I sang a song
Where is circle where is circle (to the tune of Where is Thumbkin?) and
asked all the kids with circles, squares, etc. to hold their shape up and
sing when it came to their shape.

The children had great fun with this!

I did a shape collage- cut out all types of shapes in brightly colored paper
and had the kids do a collage on black paper- Their creativity with such a
simple craft was truly amazing!!

The parents remarked this was one of their favorite storytimes as well.

I do several children's programs as well as storytime for toddlers.
I just did a storytime on shapes and the following are the books I used:
What Am I?  by N.N. Charles
It looks like spilt milk. ( on flannel board ) by Charles G. Shaw
Squarhead by Harriet Ziefert
Pezzettino by Leo Lionni
...we also played games of shapes with plastic fruits to compliment the What
am I? book, a Fisher Price game called Oreo Matchin' Middles, where you have
to match the shapes of the oreo middles.  And made different cookie shapes
like stars, moons, hearts, etc.
I hope these helped at least a little bit.



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From: Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Easy Reader core collection?
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Thank you to everyone who responded to my question about an easy-reader
core collection.  Several people suggested "Beyond Picture Books," which
does include a core collection of easy-readers, but is somewhat dated
(1995).  Many libraries apparently have their own lists of recommended
books in this category, but there doesn't seem to be a standard resource
for this topic except for "Beyond Picture Books."

I appreciate the help!
--
Becky Ann Smith
Youth Services Librarian
Logan Library, Logan, UT
bsmith@loganutah.org
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us

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From: Joan Olson <joan.olson@nsanpete.k12.ut.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Storytime Theme
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:01:39 CDT

Hi,
    We did a project where we cut out the shape of a maple leaf.  Added a
foam
peanut with a pipe cleaner wrapped around it for atennas and a small pom pom
for the head.  Hope this helps.
Joan

pac@spart.spt.lib.sc.us wrote:

> Hello, I'm thinking of doing a storytime theme based on
> trees and leaves. Can anyone suggest books, fingerplays, and crafts
suitable
> for children ages 3-5.
> Leverne McBeth
> levernem@infodepot.org

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From: "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
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There is a great series called Wonder Books which uses photography to
illustrate. This makes them visually appealing, plus  the photos are
highly supportive of the text which helps the child see the context in
which the language is being used.  This series is color coded on the
back and spine to indicate what part of phonetic structure each book
refers to.  Consonants, long and short vowel etc.

Another good point to this Seris, the long and short vowel sounds are
separated into their own books, ex. 'Ben's Pens' for the short sound of
E and 'What a Week' for the long sound. This gives the child a chance to
focus on one sound at a time, unlike other series that interchange the
two sounds in one story.  Blends (sh, wh, ch, th) are given their own
books as well. 
I know I must sound like an advertisement but these books a re really
good!  They are the first thing that I give parents who come in looking
for phonics supported text. :)


Beth McFarland
Youth Services
Westland Area Library
Columbus Ohio

>>> c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us 09/17/02 12:39AM >>>
Hi ... If any of you know of a good phonics series or phonics
workbook, I would really appreciate your e-mailing recommendations to
me.  Our system is looking to improve its phonics collection.

Thanks very much (And I will be happy to share the recommendations I
receive with any of you who might be interested).

Christine Neirink
Youth Services Coordinator
Bay County Library System
c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us

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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: a sorry-we-didn't-have-it form or note
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We use a very similar form in our system.

Kim Dolce
Port Orange Regional Library
Port Orange, FL

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From: Kindt_CA <Kindt_CA@co.brown.wi.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: monster bag puppet pattern
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Does anyone have the pattern to a Monster paper bag puppet that was in the
*very old*, now defunct Kidstuff magazine???  I was with Fingerplays "Sleepy
Monsters" and "Ten Little Monsters" and there were also little finger
puppets.  I would be most appreciative.

Thanks.  You can reply or simply fax it to me.

Clare Kindt
Children's Services Coordinator
Brown County Library
Green Bay, WI

FAX 920-448-6253

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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: special needs adults in storytime
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:04:29 CDT

We struggle to get teen programs attended. One year we had a cartooning
class that we very specifically advertised for junior high/ high school. We
had a caregiver call to register her special needs adult to attend. I
explained that it was especially for attracting a teen audience and that we
had already turned down another adult who wanted to attend. I also told her
that if we had enough interest we would have a program for other age groups.
She then asked if the person could come and be the cartoonist assistant. At
this point I  felt like I was being pressured but I told her I couldn't
assign the artist an assistant with out his approval. I did not turn the
woman down because she was a special needs but because she did not fit the
age requirements but I'm not sure I convinced the caregiver. I also turned
down a younger child who wanted to attend. My point being that sometimes
even if we would personally like to make a exception, we need to stick to
the announced age limits. Just my opinion.

Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Steffens@libcoop.net
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Science Fair Workshop
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:04:36 CDT

We had a Science Saturday last year that was very well recieved. We
planned about 6 stations, including activities that would appeal to
different age levels. We had a smoking volcano (dry ice and paper
mache), magnets (you can make up games with paper plates), made a magnet
with nails, wire, batteries, etc. A patron came in with an excellent
rock collection, and we added a bowl or small polished rocks to give
away. Dinosaur tracks across the floor with worksheets of the same theme
took over one corner.  A 20 oz pop bottle filled with cooking oil and
finely cut fine steel wool pads was fun when used with a magnet so kids
could see the filings move. Seal the bottles!! We used our collection of
science books and simple experiments and the internet for ideas.

It was fun for kids, parents, and staff.

Susan
Shelby Township Library

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From: Janet Birckhead <jbirckhe@lmxac.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:04:42 CDT

Our library makes 7th grade the cutoff between the Children's Dept. and the
Young Adult Dept.

"Keener, Lesa" wrote:

> I am have started a YA booktalk for ages 13-18. It is the first program we
> have had for YA's and I am curious as to what age other librarries start
at.
> I only had two 13 year olds come the first time (yesterday was the first
> meeting) . I have had responses from 12 year olds but the literature says
> that you should be cleat that your program is only for YA's or it will get
> the reputation as a children's program and they will not come. Recently I
> read in Patrick Jones book that he considered 12 year old to be YA. He
> doesn't really say you should include them in YA programming, but that
kids
> are reading more advanced books these days. In another book 14. Before I
> consider changing my age limit what do other libraries consider YA.

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From: "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>,<mmoody@vigo.lib.in.us>
Subject: Re: Science Fair Workshop
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We offer two annually and are probably going to three this year. We =
collaborate with the district science coordinator and three teachers, two =
elementary and one junior high that do the presentation. I start off with =
a run down of library resources, path finders, etc. and then they cover =
how to be sure your project is an experiment and not a demonstration (no =
volcanoes), how to plan and put together a successful project, how to do =
research and then give a slide show with good and bad examples. We have =
about 150 people per program, it's very popular, and we actively collect =
materials to supplement the meager resources at our school libraries. We =
have 23 elementary schools in our district, and a few of them do not =
participate in science fair or hold their fairs "off season" so there is =
less demand for resources. We actually hire an additional page from =
January to March, just to handle the reshelving.

Amelia J. Shelley
Manager, Children's/Young Adult Services
Laramie County Library System
2800 Central Avenue
Cheyenne, WY  82001
(307)634-3561, ext. 151
ashelley@larm.lib.wy.us

>>> mmoody@vigo.lib.in.us 09/16/02 10:39PM >>>
Has anyone on the list ever had a Science Fair Workshop for parents and=20
children? If so would you be willing to share what you did and what you=20
thought about the outcome?

You may reply via the list or privately.

Thanks,
Mary Moody
Vigo County Public Library

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From: "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Late storytime arrivals
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We used to have a policy in place and a sign that we poste on the door
to the program room that stated 'Storytime in progress  do not enter'.
It worked pretty well, we had the occasional parent try to get in but
they were usually stopped at the door by whomever was assigned to be at
the desk that night and politely told that we don't admit latecomers.
It only happened a few times. 

 We have since opened the program room by taking out an entire wall.
This works much better, now if we have late comers, they are much less a
distraction to the rest of the group because they don't have to open and
close a door, just come in to the area and have a seat. 


Beth McFarland
Youth Services
Westland Area Library
Columbus Ohio

>>> rsrigotti@yahoo.ca 09/17/02 12:40AM >>>
Hello People,

How do you deal with parents and children arriving
late for storytime programs? 

At one of our branches, some families are notorious
for this, arriving as much as 20 minutes late.   We
find that latecomers really distract the flow of
storytime and it takes some time to settle everyone
down again. 

I am just wondering if anybody had any ways of dealing
with this problem successfully or do you simply let it
go?  We have talked to the parents who are late, but
they don't seem to get it.

Does anybody use a policy that if you don't show up
within 10-15 of storytime start time, you can't join
the group?

Thanks for your help,
Rosa


Rosa Rigotti
Essex County Library

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From: "LibraryAdmin" <Libraryadmin@ci.berkeley.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Children's Librarian job annnoucement
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:05:01 CDT

CHILDREN'S LIBRARIAN POSITION IN BERKELEY CALIFORNIA

The Berkeley Public Library seeks an enthusiastic, innovative, and =
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Situated between rolling hills and the San Francisco Bay, Berkeley is a =
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This particular position is assigned to the Central Children's Library =
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facility. We have big plans but need a part-time (32 hours/week) Children's=
 Librarian to help us put these ideas into action.

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Applications are due by October 21, 2002.

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From: Tammy Federspiel <tfeders@esls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:05:08 CDT

Hi Alison and everyone_ I have a scavenger/treasure hunt at least twice a
year for my school age programs.  This summer during Mysteries @ the
Library we did this treasure trackers program.  I split the clues up so
each team had 4 clues due to time constraints.  Hope it inspires some plans
for you!  Tammy

1.  I am (the librarians or children's) favorite author- she likes me a
whole bunch...
Look in the easy readers, my name is Robert _ _ _ _ _ _!

(munsch)

2.  Kids int he Kitchen, look no further than this
Find great recipes that are too fun to miss!

(clue taped to shelf in kids cookbook area)


3.  It's summer and time for wings to open wide
Find the kids butterfly books your next clue is inside.

(clue in kids butterfly books area)

4.  I have a photographic memory--to remember I say "click"
Find my books for your next clue, it's not a trick.

(cam jansen books by David Adler...which we have previously read some of
during the program)

5.  July 31st is the big birthday celebration
we are having a party that will be lots of fun
Look for his picture as large as can be
your next clue lives behind this magical he

(poster of Harry Potter)

6.  This is where you signed up for the Summer library program fun...
Your finished slips are recorded here when you are done.

(the table that has the file box of kids folders)


7.  I'm a monkey who is always curious
Sometimes I've been known to make people furious.

(curious George)


8.  Merry Christmas, Happy Halloween
This is where Holiday books are seen.

(juv. HOliday section)

9.  Kids magazines are very cool, give them a whirl
Look here to see the latest American _ _ _ _!

(American Girl Magazine)

10.  Each book has a home.  Where do the Arthur books live?
Find this special shelf and a new clue I'll give.

(either Arthur chapter books or easy readers)

11.  When your hands and eyes are busy or you're going on a trip
I am an awesome form of "reading" with no pages to flip.
This library has me for grown ups and for kids of all ages
You need to use your ears instead of turning pages
Look for the ones You would be interested in
Your next clue awaits you...find it and win!

(the juv. books on cassette)


12.  Do you want to find the truth about which products are the best?
It's hard to know when commercials try to sell you all the rest.
How can you pick the right thing out of millions and billions?
It's easy!  Just read the kids magazine called _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ !

(zillions)

13.  What does the word Evidence mean?  When you find this definition
You will go onward with your mission!

(big dictionary on stand)

14. whew!  detective work is hot, but it's not the worst
Where can we go to quench our thirst?

(bubbler or water fountain to those of you not is Wisconsin!)

15.  Back to the beginning for your last clue
Under a place to sit, hidden from view.
Gather round the table where snacks you eat
Find your last clue and assemble the paper sheet.

(in addition to each clue a puzzle piece that formed a message was at each
clue site.  When the kids put the puzzle together it formed a message to
tell them where the treasure was.  I usually have a basket of chocolates
and a drink such as capri sun for the group to share.)

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