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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 864


    PUBYAC Digest 864

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: What age is a YA?
by "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
  2) YA programs
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
  3) RE: What age is a YA?
by Lawrence Johnson <johnson@snap.lib.ca.us>
  4) ESL Compilation
by "Baraboo Children's Dept." <barch@scls.lib.wi.us>
  5) Homeschooling
by "Carol Sexton" <carol.sexton@charterbn.com>
  6) Re: Fall Festival
by "Janmarie Chatlosh" <J_chatlosh@fsd1.org>
  7) Re: Late storytime arrivals
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
  8) "We ain't got it" notes
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
  9) Technology programs for elementary age
by "Beth Zambito" <bzambito@poklib.org>
 10) Teen literary magazines: Thanks!
by "Henegar, Sharon" <SLHenegar@ocpl.org>
 11) RE: Fall Festival
by "Windon, Robyn" <rwindon@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
 12) RE: Storytime Theme
by "Kim Villasenor" <newmad@oplin.lib.oh.us>
 13) Sports stories
by "Nancy B" <nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org>
 14) RE: Programming for Special Needs Adults
by Mary Jean Hartel <hartelm@mail.clarke.public.lib.ga.us>
 15) Help! Knight Titles needed (juvenile novels only pls.!)
by "Miss Karen" <kidslib@plattsburghlib.org>
 16) Teen Mystery Night Scripts
by "Ramarie Beaver" <ramarieb@plano.gov>
 17) Re: What age is a YA?
by "P Stack" <p.stack@vlc.lib.mi.us>
 18) Adults With Disabilities Attending Children's Programs
by oneil <oneil@asbank.com>
 19) Post Job: LIBRARIAN II IN CHILDREN'S SVC.
by "Stephanie Kunkle" <kunkle@sonoma.lib.ca.us>
 20) apple puppet
by Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
 21) Windows 2000 and children's software
by "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org>
 22) Quote from YA Novels - update
by Greg Ullman <gullman@ci.covina.ca.us>
 23) (no subject)
by "Lane, Kristin" <klane@lib.sbcounty.gov>

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From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:11 CDT

This reeks of censorship.

g

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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: YA programs
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:18 CDT

Somewhat off-topic, our church divided the YA group into a junior high
and a high school group.

Bonita

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From: Lawrence Johnson <johnson@snap.lib.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: What age is a YA?
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:24 CDT

Our main target group is 7-12 graders.

Lawrence Johnson, Jr.
Young Adult Librarian
John F. Kennedy Library
505 Santa Clara St.
Vallejo, CA 94590
Phone: 707-553-5354
Fax: 707-553-5567
E-mail: johnson@snap.lib.ca.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Birckhead [SMTP:jbirckhe@lmxac.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:05 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?

Our library makes 7th grade the cutoff between the Children's Dept. and the
Young Adult Dept.

"Keener, Lesa" wrote:

> I am have started a YA booktalk for ages 13-18. It is the first program we
> have had for YA's and I am curious as to what age other librarries start
at.
> I only had two 13 year olds come the first time (yesterday was the first
> meeting) . I have had responses from 12 year olds but the literature says
> that you should be cleat that your program is only for YA's or it will get
> the reputation as a children's program and they will not come. Recently I
> read in Patrick Jones book that he considered 12 year old to be YA. He
> doesn't really say you should include them in YA programming, but that
kids
> are reading more advanced books these days. In another book 14. Before I
> consider changing my age limit what do other libraries consider YA.

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From: "Baraboo Children's Dept." <barch@scls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: ESL Compilation
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:31 CDT

Hello Everyone,

Here are the responses we received on our ESL question.  Hope they help.  I
e-mailed the person who said she might be willing to share a list of
titles...if that comes in I will post that too.

Thanks to everyone who offered their experience and knowledge.

Karen


Subject: YA interest for ESL

Karen,
I work with the English language learners at our high school (13% of its
3,200 population) as does the school librarian there, and we both build
collectionns for early English readers who are in their teens.
First, please consider the literacy of the teens in their home languages.
Some already have strong literacy skills while others are learning about
reading at the same time they are learning about English.
The high school and the public library both collect numerous picture books
that have sophisticated content (eg, some titles by Molly Bang, Alan Say,
etc.; titles that treat themes of suicide, alienation, etc.). Wordless
books are great, too, for building skill in following narrative flow.
Kids from many highly literate cultures have had little or no experience
with anything except adult literature, simply because books for children
and teens aren't part of that culture. Introducing teen novels to this
group is really rewarding because they have never read anything like it and
are eager to read. (Speak, by Laurie Halse Andersen, for instance, doesn't
seem to be particularly "easy" reading but the story is so compelling that
our ELL 3 and 4 students rip right through it.
We also have a program, Earphone English, that supports reading through
listening to audiobooks, either while tracking the words in print,
beforehand or after, or not at all. Again, with teens, the ability to think
abstractly is different from what it is in younger children, so being able
to "unfold" a story with their ears is more sophisticated than it is for
their younger siblings.
Books to avoid are ones featuring very young (prepubescent) characters who
are immersed in American pop culture; the combination of disparity in age
and experience makes the book uninviting. Carolyn Coman's What Jamie Saw,
on the other hand, while featuring a very young (8-year-old) character,
places him in a culture that is not overflowing with so many commodities
that HE is unaware of them.
I could go on and on. Maybe you just want a list?
Francisca


Karen,
Please share your results. We get this question, too. Some of the New True
Books have filled the bill, but I would love to hear other suggestions.
Vanessa

Hi, try this page on the PLA website:
http://www.pla.org/resources/resources.html "The Resources for Adult New
Readers Committee of PLA's Library Services Cluster is pleased to offer its
list of Top Titles for Adult New Readers." The most recent list is from
2000.
Also, check with your local literacy/adult basic education center for ideas.
Peace,
Jean


Subject: ESL books

We've been running a National Connections program for a few years with ESL
adults. We've found biographies at a 3rd or 4th grade level to be the best
materials because it helps them feel less like they're reading children's
materials and stimulates great discussions. We've done series on civil
rights leaders, American patriots, sports heroes and are currently working
on American artists and composers using the Getting to Know the World's
Great Artists series by Venezia. This was originally a National Endowment
for the Humanities program and started in Vermont where it appears to still
be going. Check out their site for more info.
http://www.vermonthumanities.org/connections/connections.htm
Good luck!
Amelia


Youth Services Staff
Baraboo Public Library
230 4th Ave., Baraboo WI  53913
Phone: 608-356-6166   FAX: 608-355-2779
barch@scls.lib.wi.us

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From: "Carol Sexton" <carol.sexton@charterbn.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Homeschooling
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:37 CDT

We too have an ever growing # of homeschooling families. There are
several things I have done or do with them.  I have a parent's corner in
the Jr room that holds MANY homeschooling resource books and magazines.
On our bulletin board is a list of people who home school and other info
useful to them. Each February I have a homeschool awareness week and ask
for work to display on the main floor and in our community room, and
other info too. I do tours and internet usage workshops with them and
many are involved in Storytime/ Toddler Tales....I did do a weekly
program keeping the children occupied while the parents were able to use
the library uninterrupted, but the attendance was low so I haven't done
this for awhile.....I also use the older homeschooled ( age 11 and up)
as volunteers....
Carol Sexton
Pulaski Co

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From: "Janmarie Chatlosh" <J_chatlosh@fsd1.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Fall Festival
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I have done apples on string.  The students have to go after one apple
only.  This can be done with lollipops also.

>>> lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us 09/19/02 02:23 AM >>>
I am doing a fall festival as an afterschool program in Oct. I will have
=
stations and do some crafts and some games. Although the traditional =
bobbing for apples comes to mind I have a problem with the germ factor?
=
Has anyone done a variation of this. I thought about giving each child =
an individual bowl of water with an apple and whoever grabbed theirs =
first won. There's also the apple on the string game but we don't have a
=
good place to hang them (and it's more fun getting your face wet! ). Any
=
suggestions would be appreciated.=20
Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: Loralee Armstrong <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Late storytime arrivals
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:51 CDT

This is a real problem, in that you must balance the quality of the
program with public relations.

One compromise I have heard of, is that latecomers are admitted BETWEEN
books.  After the librarian finishes the first story, she opens the door
to see if there are any latecomers waiting.  (A room with a window
facilitates this since the librarian can see latecomers waiting).

The problem with refusing entry to people only a few minutes late, is that
the librarian on the desk winds up in a confrontation.  The patron rarely
just quietly accepts not being admitted. 

Just the other day we had someone arrive at 10:40 for a program that began
at 10.  She made a huge fuss "We were held up at the Doctor and I PROMISED
my son we'd go....".  The program was largely free-play, so late
admittance wasn't a problem.  However, there was no way she was going to
meekly accept not being admitted.

If anyone has a win-win solution to this one, I'd love to hear it!

Lisa Smith
lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us

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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: "We ain't got it" notes
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:23:57 CDT

Did I post this before?  Sorry,if so.


Ours reads:
******************************************

To the teacher of (name)
_____ Your student
_____ Your student's parent

came to the Euclid Public Library looking for material about

_______________________________________________________________ .

This person was not able to obtain the necessary materials because:

_____ All material on the subject is checked out of the library.

_____ Several schools have the same assignment.

_____ There is no material on the appropriate reading level.

_____ We are unable to provide more than 2 books on one subject for a
school assignment.

_____ Other __________________________________________________________

            __________________________________________________________
           
            ___________________________________________________________

Euclid Public Library
Children's Services Department
Linda Spear, Department Head


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We use "other" a lot. 

Bonita

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From: "Beth Zambito" <bzambito@poklib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Technology programs for elementary age
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Hi all,
Some of the programs that I conduct at my library includes teaching
elementary-aged children, usually 4-6th graders, how to use MS Word and the
Internet in one-hour workshops.
I'm looking to expand such technology or computer offerings, but am having
difficulty thinking of new program ideas.
Any suggestions or program ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Beth

Beth M. Zambito
Children's Librarian
Adriance Memorial Library
93 Market Street
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 485-3445 x3329
bzambito@poklib.org

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From: "Henegar, Sharon" <SLHenegar@ocpl.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Teen literary magazines: Thanks!
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Thanks to those who sent me suggestions for literature-oriented magazines
for teens.This seems not to be a real hot area of publishing; we received
two suggestions: Teen Ink (material written by teens, and we already
subscribe to this one) and Cicada (related to Cricket etc. and reputed not
to fly off the shelf!). I've passed these along to the branch manager who
requested the info.

Sharon L. Henegar
Coordinator of Children's Services
Orange County Public Library
1501 E. St. Andrew Place
Santa Ana, CA 92705

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From: "Windon, Robyn" <rwindon@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Fall Festival
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:24:17 CDT

For my Halloween party, I am doing a "Dangling Doughnuts" game - you tie
several doughnuts onto a stick with dental floss or string, hold it or
position it above the kid's heads (so that the doughnuts are at mouth
level), and whoever eats their doughnut first (without using hands) wins.
You can also blindfold older kids, for more of a challenge. Since this is
similar to the apple on the string, though, you may not want to try it.
Robyn E. Windon
Intermediate/Teen Librarian
Mogadore Branch
Akron-Summit County Public Library
144 S. Cleveland Ave
Mogadore, OH 44260
330-628-9228

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From: "Kim Villasenor" <newmad@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Storytime Theme
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:24:26 CDT

We have a book "Look What I Did with a Leaf!", it shows collages that were
made of leaves.  We have done it before with real leaves and also with
leaves we have cut out using unusual colors.  ISBN 0-8027-8216-7, author
Sohi, Morteza E.  Have fun!

Kim Villasenor
New Madison Public Library
PO Box 32
142 S. Main St.
New Madison OH 45346
937-996-1741
937-996-1473 (fax)
www.new-madison.lib.oh.us <http://www.new-madison.lib.oh.us>  (website)
newmad@oplin.lib.oh.us <mailto:newmad@oplin.lib.oh.us>  (email)

"Not every child has an equal talent or an equal ability or equal
motivation, but children have the equal right to develop their talent, their
ability, and their motivation."  John F. Kennedy

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From: "Nancy B" <nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Sports stories
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:31:50 CDT

Elementary teachers in my local chapter of the Reading Council have asked
for recommendations for sports stories.   Their students have read Matt
Christopher' books until they are in shreds.  Does anyone have suggestions
for other good authors?

Nancy Bostrom
Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library
Lewistown, MT

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From: Mary Jean Hartel <hartelm@mail.clarke.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Programming for Special Needs Adults
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:31:56 CDT

Hello to all, I'm sorry I missed the original posting so I may be way off
base.  At our library I do once a month programming for adults with special
needs.  As the parent of a teen with Down Syndrome I understand that not
everything you say will be understood, but getting out into the community
and seeing/hearing something different is ALWAYS good.  Ocassionally,
someone will surprise you and laugh or cry in the right spot.   I generally
do the same stories I would for middle and high school students.  We always
start with introductions even the adult caregivers and me!  Then depending
on what story I'm going to tell there's another question I ask.  For
example, if I'm telling Wylie and the Hairy Man I might ask them if they're
scared of anything.  There will be some individuals who cannot/won't talk.
I go right ahead and talk to them anyway.  Remember too that the adult
caregivers enjoy a good story!

So, bottom line, don't be afraid to offer a program separate from children's
programming...but using the same material--ask the adult caregivers (either
family or caregivers what would be good).  Adults with special needs are all
along the continuum of expressive and receptive language skills (just like
the rest of us!)

If you have questions, please feel free to e-mail me at my new address
mjhartel@athenslibrary.org

Mary Jean Hartel The early bird gets the worm,
Young Adult/AV Librarian But the second mouse gets the cheese.
Athens Regional Library
2025 Baxter Street
Athens, GA  30606
hartelm@mail.clarke.public.lib.ga.us
706/613-3650, ext. 323
FAX 706/613-3660

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From: "Miss Karen" <kidslib@plattsburghlib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Help! Knight Titles needed (juvenile novels only pls.!)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:32:02 CDT


Oh learned colleagues:

I am looking for title suggestions of juvenile fiction books for a =
teacher to read aloud to her third grade class with the theme of =
knights. Some other good read alouds beside Lloyd Alexander and Tamora =
Pierce.  Any suggestions would be welcome!

Karen

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From: "Ramarie Beaver" <ramarieb@plano.gov>
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Subject: Teen Mystery Night Scripts
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Do you have a devious mind? Do you like to solve mysteries?
The Teen Activities Committee from the Plano Public Library System has =
posted our past Teen Mystery Night scripts as well as other original =
mystery scripts on our web site.    Check it out at: =
http://www.planolibrary.org/children/TeenMysteryResource.htm

We at PPLS want to provide a forum for information-sharing about teen =
mystery nights.  If you have any original scripts that you would like to =
share with your colleagues, we will gladly post them on our site.  =
Contact Libby Whitcomb at libbyw@plano.gov with comments or =
contributions.    =20

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ramarie Beaver
Public Services Librarian--Children's
C.A. Parr Library
6200 Windhaven Pkwy.
Plano, TX 75093
972.769.4300
www.planolibrary.org
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From: "P Stack" <p.stack@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
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Just my two cents worth.  We do ours by the local schools.  Middle
school here starts at sixth grade so our YA is sixth grade thru 12th
grade.  In the summer the soon to be sixth graders have the option of
which program they would like to go to.

We found once the kids hit middle school, they don't want to be in
the children's program or involved with "the little kids".

Hope this helps.
**********************************************************************
Run

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From: oneil <oneil@asbank.com>
To: PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children
 <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Adults With Disabilities Attending Children's Programs
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I have had adults with disabilities from the Work Activity Center attend
a story hour regularly as a helper. One came with her mother who also
helped with the activities, and the other two were able to be
independent enough to come by themselves.

These adults with special needs were able to be a real help, passing out
papers, modeling finger play actions for the children. One even did
magic tricks( removing coins from the ears of the preschoolers). The
special needs adults loved having a (volunteer)job and felt very
enthusiastic about participating.

The children really looked forward to the special adults coming.

Sally O'Neil
oneil@asbank.com
Eunice, Louisiana

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From: "Stephanie Kunkle" <kunkle@sonoma.lib.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Post Job: LIBRARIAN II IN CHILDREN'S SVC.
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POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT
SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY
Santa Rosa, CA 95404

POSITION TITLE:  Librarian II in Children's Services

SALARY RANGE:  $45,011 - $54,683 annually

CLOSING DATE:  5 p.m., October 15, 2002


DEFINITION
Under general supervision, provides professional children's library
services, including reference, reader's advisory, collection
development, and performs related work as assigned.

TYPICAL DUTIES
* Answers reference questions.
* Gives readers advice.
* Prepares bibliographies.
* Gives library instruction.
* Selects books; selects and organizes non-book materials.
* Visits classrooms.
* Prepares and conducts children's programming.
* Works with new information technologies to provide information and
assist the public.

KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITIES 
* General knowledge of books and other library materials.
* Knowledge of juvenile books.
* Thorough knowledge of modern library purposes, procedures and
techniques.
* Applicants should possess a specialized knowledge of children's
materials and work with children.

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS
Education and Experience 
* Graduation from a college or university approved by an accrediting
association of more than statewide standing, plus the possession of a
graduate library degree from a school accredited by the American Library
Association. 
* Two years of appropriate professional experience following completion
of graduate degree.

APPLICATIONS:
Apply with resume and application to: Administration Office, Sonoma
County Library, Third and E Streets, Santa Rosa, CA 95404.  To obtain an
application, e-mail kunkle@sonoma.lib.ca.us or call Stephanie @
707.545.0831, ext. 553.

SELECTION PROCESS:
The most qualified applicants will be scheduled for a written exam and
an oral interview on which final selection will be based.

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From: Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: apple puppet
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:32:37 CDT

I have a small apple puppet with a green worm that pokes his head out. It
is really cute, but I have never found a story or fingerplay that I can use
with it.  Ususally I just introduce my apple storytime with it.  I am doing
the apple storytime for my tour groups during the month of October and
would love to do something else.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
mmp



**************************************
M. Marsha Parham
Flint River Regional Library
800 Memorial Dr.
Griffin, GA 30223
(770) 412-4770
(770) 412-4771 (fax)
parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us

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From: "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Windows 2000 and children's software
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:32:44 CDT


For those of you in libraries that have received computers from the Gates
Foundation with Windows 2000 or who have other computers with Windows 2000,
I would like to know what children's software programs you have found to
load onto them.  I am having a hard time finding programs for Windows 2000.
We are also going to purchase some other new computers and are debating
whether to get them with Windows 2000 so they will all be the same or
whether to get them with Windows XP instead.  I do not see many children's
CD-ROMS out there with XP either, but I assume there will be more and more.
Any suggestions about which way we should go?  Titles of programs that work
with 2000 (I do have 5 or 6 good ones selected)?

Thanks,
Rae Kozloff
Anacortes Public Library, WA
raek@cityofanacortes.org

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From: Greg Ullman <gullman@ci.covina.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Quote from YA Novels - update
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:32:51 CDT

A couple weeks ago, I said:

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I'm thinking of posting a "quote of the week" from a recommended Young Adult
novel on the wall in my Young Adult area to act as a teaser and get them to
read the book.  Preferably a humorous line from the book, so that even if
the book isn't available right away, they will look forward to visiting the
YA area and reading a new joke each week.  Has anyone already compiled a
list of humorous or memorable lines from current YA novels?
-- Greg Ullman
Covina Public Library (Calif.)


I'd like to thank Melissa MacLeod, Megan Vanderhart, Rob Reid, Susan Dailey
and Martha Coons for responding with contributions.

I'd also like to thank Deirdre Miller, Meghan Kennedy, Diana Martin,
Michelle Mallette, Jeanne Lohfink, Susan Dunn and Curry Hoskey who didn't
have any contributions, but wrote to support my idea and wanted to know the
results.

So far, I have the following quotes and suggestions (in no particular order)
that were sent in by the five contributors.  Please send in more if you have
them.  THANKS!!!

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 (towards the end there was a section that made me laugh out loud when a
piece of her hair snaps while she is trying to seductively run her hand
through it)
Angus, Thongs and Full Frontal Snogging by Louise Rennison

(many quotable sections, some included on back cover)
The Gospel According to Larry by Janet Tashjian

"'But I'm afraid there's no such thing as what you call love, old friend.'
Bostock braced himself, and Harris continued. 'It's only an instinct, old
friend, nothing more than that. It's like-like blowing your nose. You have
to do it, and you feel better when you've done it.'"
The Strange Affair of Adelaide Harris by Leon Garfield

"The hearse was Henry's idea."
-- The Shadow Brothers by A.E. Cannon

" Meeting Harris would never have happened were it not for liberal
quantities of Schlitz and Four Roses."
Harris and Me by Gary Paulsen

"Out at the city limits, there's this sign that says: WELCOME TO CLAYPITTS,
PEARL OF THE PRAIRIE and if you'd believe that, you'll believe anything."
-- Don't Look and It Won't Hurt by Richard Peck

"Sometimes, when I stand back and take a good look, I think my parents are
ambassadors from hell."
-- "A Brief Moment in the Life of Angus Bethune" from Athletic Shorts by
Chris Crutcher

"The meek don't inherit the earth, I don't care what the Bible says. The
meek inherit the shaft."
-- Dinky Hocker Shoots Smack by M.E. Kerr

"Lord, I've said it before and I'll say it again: You sure made some
mistakes when You made me. Surely to my soul I must have moss growing in my
head where my brains should be."
-- Where the Lilies Bloom by Bill and Vera Cleaver

(no specific quote)
No More Dead Dogs by Gordon Korman

"Miss Vesper Holly has the digestive talents of a goat and the mind of a
chess master.  She is familiar with half a dozen languages and can swear
fluently in all of them."
-- The Illyrian Adventure by Lloyd Alexander.

"I never knew you can think you understand what it means to live in this
world, what it smells like and looks like and feels like on your skin and in
your heart, and then, in less time than it takes to get your hair done, you
can look up at a whole different sky, and realize that all this time you
didn't even know who you were, much less stop to wonder."
-- Life is Funny, by E.R. Frank

"Before the day Gingerbread first talked to me, I'd a long time forgotten
about laughing, but the second after he said his own name right out loud, I
remembered again."
-- Life is Funny

"The laughter had changed her whole body.  She felt like water, fluid and
sparkling, and smiled as he touched the grass tip to her lower lip."
-- Before Wings, by Beth Goobie

"In the wet and dark, nothing moved except the memories in Adrien's head."
-- Before Wings

"This word "COLLEGE" is in my house,
and you have to walk around it in the rooms,
like furniture"
-- Make Lemonade by Virginia Euwer Wolff

"This highly sophisticated technique for not getting called on [in class]
involves just enough head movement, facial expression and note-taking
enthusiasm so that Mrs. Moonface will not think I am trying to hide from
her, combined with just enough of a blank poker face and a dead-fish gaze so
that she will also not think I am trying to trick her by appearing
overeager."
-- You Don't Know Me, by David Klass

"The first practice of the new season was fifteen minutes away, and Corey
felt like a rodeo bull trapped in one of those little gates, eager to
charge."
-- Players, by Joyce Sweeney

"I want to hold Scarlett's hand, but mine are sweaty.  I should have used
deodorant on them.  Maybe one day I'll invent a hand deodorant and market it
to guys like me who want to get rid of their wet palms."
-- When Zachary Beaver Came to Town, by Kimberly Willis Holt

"I walk right down the middle of the steps.  I am not really part of that
group, but I am not not part of it.  I am independent.  Carla would give
anything to be standing there, smoking, with that crowd.  She embarasses me
the way she walks so slowly and looks around, hoping to be asked."
-- Harley Like a Person, by Cat Bauer

"There is a sprinkling of losers like me scattered among the happy
teenagers, prunes in the oatmeal of school."
--Speak, by Laurie Halse Anderson

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From: "Lane, Kristin" <klane@lib.sbcounty.gov>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:32:59 CDT

A few weeks ago I posted to several lists asking about rebinding graphic
novels. I've compiled the responses I got. Several other people asked me to
pass on the information I received. I think we have decided "not to decide"
at this point.  Many of the alternate suggestions below sounded pretty good
and when we get some time to think about it (HA!) we'll give some of them a
try.  Kristin Lane

Now for the responses:
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What I try to do if at all possible is purchase graphic novels/comics from
Ingram and have them sent to their Heckman Bindery to be permabound right at
the start if they are paperbacks. Ingram only charges $3.50 per book after
giving their usual 40% discount. Otherwise the books fall apart pretty fast.
If Ingram doesn't carry the graphic novel, then I still don't have much of a
solution. We laminate everything and put reinforcing tape inside the front
cover. Since our collection is also rather new we haven't been able to
assess its durability too well yet.
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I've used a comb binding machine. For it and the supplies for the rebinding
it cost about $100 with our discounts to Office Max (or Depot--I can never
remember which one we go to). Our first rebound manga graphic novel fell
apart last week. It circulated 15 times since the rebinding. So I was
pleased with it. The rebinding takes about 10-15 minutes to do.
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We do not re-bind them because they cost more to rebind.  However, when we
purchase them through BWI , we can purchase them in the BWI Bound
(reinforced spin) volume.  They do last a little longer than normal wear and
tear.
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We don't rebind...just don't have the staff or volunteers to justify ... we
do reorder.  I will look forward to finding out what other systems are
doing, we are just a lone library.
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We have a very large GN collection; we have about 650!. Most of these we
send to Houchen Bindery before they are ever put out for patrons. We figure
this extra cost is part of having a GN collection. Also, some GN are
available in hardcover. Titles in our GN collection circ about 12
times/year. Some titles have 60 or more circs and they look fine. We highly
recommend using a regular hardcover binding. Another thing to consider: If
you spiral-bind, where will you place a spine label? The few items we have
in our nonfiction collection that have spiral bindings create havoc with
shelving.
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We do rebind those graphic novels which are printed with enough gutterspace
to allow this.  However, we don't spiral bind and try to avoid that method
with most materials because (1) spirals are hard to shelve, especially side
by side with other spirals; (2) spirals are pulled out of shape in
backpacks, and (3)pages rip from spirals in the turning process.
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The Gail Borden Public Library (Elgin, IL) has all graphic novels bound. We
decided to do this because most of them are fairly thin & we were concerned
they would be damaged in the book drops. This books receive high use; we
feel it is worth the approx. $4-5 it costs to have these books bound. BTW,
the library does own a spiral binding machine.
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We use a heavy duty stapler and laminate to increase the shelf-life of our
graphic novels...and it does dramatically improve their durability.  We do
it to every item as it arrives (don't wait for it to fall apart).  Three
staples (at least 1/2'' staples) at the edge of the front cover, gently
hammer down the backs (yeah, hammer)  then mylar laminate over the entire
cover. It works!....and it looks good.  We got our Swingline heavy duty
stapler from Office Depot for about $65 (that was with our discount).  Good
quality glossy mylar rolls are available through Highsmith or Demco; cheaper
but fine matte rolls through Office Depot. I'd heard about the spiral
binding too; someone at the YALSA preconference mentioned it.  Might be a
cheaper option, actually, since you don't do until they fall apart.  But
we've had great success with our method, and support from admin for the
supplies. Our way also requires more labor...but our teen volunteers love to
do it.
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We experimented with rebinding graphic novels as your email described.  It
was not successful.  Those few we tried sat on the shelf and did not circ
plus due to not having a sufficient inside margin, we lost some of the
graphic when put through the spiral binding machine.  Too much staff time
was utilized in the process.  We now use 3" book tape and tape all spines of
graphic novels.  They hold up much better and the spine stays intact much
longer.  Graphic novels are not intended for multiple uses and pages come
loose easier than in book formats.
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The problems with rebinding with spiral binding are: 1) The cost of the
staff time to do it, unless you get volunteers. Until you try it, you won't
realize just how slow it can be. 2) The rebinding will eat into the art in
many volumes. 3) Spiral binding doesn't shelve well, especially if they end
up adjacent to each other. 4) Spiral binding is not all that durable under
heavy usage. Holes rip, coils come out and have to be redone, etc.I don't
say you can't do it, only that these four pitfalls should be considered.
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Any rebinding methods require a certain amount of "gutter" space to secure
the pages.  The spiral bindings do not tend to hold up well in cookbooks,
and other areas of the collection.  Plus, they are hard to re-bind later. On
a very tight budget, one possible solution MAY be a stapler designed to
staple 100+ pages, plus various sizes of staples.  We have a Stanley
Bostich's Model B310 HDS [costs about $35-40.00 for the stapler and not too
much for the various sizes of staples by the box of 500-1000+].  We have
used this for trade paperbacks and some goosebump books that we did not want
to invest $10.00 to have re-bound professionally, but wanted to try to get
more use out of them.  Granted, the staples that misfire are harder to
remove (good needle nose pliers preferred in conjunction with the standard
staple removers), and the prongs may need to be bent down a little more so
they do not catch on things (when a slightly larger staple would have been a
better choice). This has worked well for us.  Also, we can re-staple in
another place if the pages become weak where the staples were placed.  You
can not do that re-binding a spiral without encroaching more on the gutter.
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Have you considered the possibility of using a "plastic comb" binder that
someone else owns?? In our area the County School Bd. maintains a "center"
where Ellison die cut machines, poster size laminators, paper cutters that
can handle a ream of paper at a time and a gadget to glue stacks of scrap
paper into note pads, etc., etc., are available. You pay for supplies you
use. You might want to ask around. I don't know if stores like Kinko's the
people who copy things, would have binding service available or not. You
could try a "trial run"--bind the collection at one branch and see how it
goes. There are also firms that re-bind books I mean hardbound books. Their
busy season is during the Summer when they re-bind textbooks for schools.
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Our middle school library rebinds graphic novels using a spiral binding
machine.  For our school library needs, it works fine.  I would think a
public library would find it highly useful to extend the life of the graphic
novels. I have a parent volunteer who does it, it doesn't take long, and the
binding lasts very well.


Kristin Lane/Library Associate
Youth Services
San Bernardino County Library
104 W. 4th St.
San Bernardino, CA  92415-0035
(909) 387-5737; fax: (909) 387-5736
klane@lib.sbcounty.gov

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