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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 866
PUBYAC Digest 866
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: apple puppet
by JANE BAIRD <lijhb@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us>
2) Stumper
by "Carol Lo" <Carol.Lo@spl.org>
3) Hermie the Worm poem--Oops!
by holnb <holnb@llcoop.org>
4) RE: What age is a YA?
by "Susan D. Carr" <scarr@wpl.lib.oh.us>
5) RE: stumper
by Jeannette Whitworth <JWhitworth@sno-isle.org>
6) Popular mystery series
by Jeanette Larson <larsonlibrary@yahoo.com>
7) Do you have these videos in your collection?
by Stacey Boycik <stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
8) Rowling/Potter news
by R Smith <read2yourbunny@yahoo.com>
9) Re: Sports stories
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
10) YA Definition
by "Mary K. Chelton" <mchelton@optonline.net>
11) CLEMATIS by Bertha B. and Ernest Cobb
by oconnellr@carnegielibrary.org
(Rebecca O'Connell)
12) Re: apple puppet
by holnb <holnb@llcoop.org>
13) Community Profiles
by "Mary K. Chelton" <mchelton@optonline.net>
14) Re: Late storytime arrivals
by "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
15) Re: storytime latecomers
by "Kate Pappas" <Kate.Pappas@spl.org>
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From: JANE BAIRD <lijhb@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: apple puppet
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:14:35 CDT
I would use this with the book "Very Hungry Caterpiller".
Jane Baird
Anchorage Municipal Libraries
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From: "Carol Lo" <Carol.Lo@spl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:14:42 CDT
We are looking for a book for a patron whose mother-in-law has a book of
poetry but the cover and title page are missing. She had the book by
1939. Some of the names of the poems are:
If I were a one-legged pirate
Autumn
Whale
Choosing Shoes
A Kitten
Bunches of Grapes
The Sunday Bonnet
The Branch
The Organ Grinder's Garden
We welcome your ideas. Thanks.
Best,
Carol
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From: holnb <holnb@llcoop.org>
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Subject: Hermie the Worm poem--Oops!
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:14:49 CDT
OOPS!
I replied to the inquiry for a poem to use with an apple/worm
puppet.
I also mentioned the craft that I did with my storytimers.
It
should have read that they glued a green LEAF (not apple!) to the apples
cut out of red posterboard.
NB
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From: "Susan D. Carr" <scarr@wpl.lib.oh.us>
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Subject: RE: What age is a YA?
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:14:56 CDT
how so?
-----Original Message-----
From: Grace Slaughter [mailto:gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:23 PM
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Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
This reeks of censorship.
g
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From: Jeannette Whitworth <JWhitworth@sno-isle.org>
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From: Margaret Korenski [mailto:MKORENSKI@vigo.lib.in.us]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 8:34 PM
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Subject: stumper
A patron is looking for a book she read as a child approx. 25 years ago.
It
was about an inner city family (she's thinking New York) with 5 daughters
living in the 1920-1940 era. The family is Jewish and the story takes you
through a year of their holidays and traditions. She believes the title
had
something to do with "In a Row" but I have tried "Five in a
Row" and "All in
a Row" to no avail. Any ideas will be appreciated. Thank You!
mkorenski@vigo.lib.in.us
Margaret
I think that this is one of the series by Sydney Taylor. That particular
book's title is Five of a Kind, I believe. There are several other titles in
the series.
Jeannette Whitwrot
Childrens Librarian
Snohomish Library
jwhitworh@sno-isle.org
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From: Jeanette Larson <larsonlibrary@yahoo.com>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Popular mystery series
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:08 CDT
Which mystery series for kids are currently popular in
your library? I'm taking a poll to find the top ten
or so for any age children. Please respond to me, not
to the list and I'll post the compilation. Thanks!
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Jeanette Larson
Youth Services Manager
Austin Public Library
P.O. Box 2287
Austin, TX 78768-2287
512-499-7405
larsonlibrary@yahoo.com
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From: Stacey Boycik <stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Do you have these videos in your collection?
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Hi eveyone-
I was wondering if anyone had the following videos in their
collection: Goofy's Field Trip Series (includes _Planes_, _Trains_,
and _Ships_) and Minnie's Science Field Trip Series (includes _Johnson
Space Center_, _The Living Seas_, and _San Diego Zoo_). Both series
are from Disney Educational, and produced in the late '80's. If you
own any of these, are they still valid, or are they outdated in any
way? Please reply off-list.
Thanks!
Stacey Boycik
Assistant Children's Department Head
Wadsworth Public Library
132 Broad Street
Wadsworth, OH 44281
Phone: 330-335-1295
Fax: 330-334-6605
E-Mail: stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us
Web: www.wadsworth.lib.oh.us
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From: R Smith <read2yourbunny@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Rowling/Potter news
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:21 CDT
I just came across some news at the ACHUKA site
(Sept. 21):
http://www.achuka.co.uk/index2.html
J. K. Rowling has announced both that she is
three months pregnant, and that she is much
further advanced with the fifth Harry Potter than
many of her fans feared. According to an
interview in The Times, there is still a
possibility the book will appear before
Christmas.
For the full interview & feature online:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-421325,00.html
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Rebecca Verrill Smith, recent MLS grad
Lesley Ellis School Library
read2yourbunny@yahoo.com
"It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are,
far more than our abilities."
--Albus Dumbledore ( J.K. Rowling)
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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org>,<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Sports stories
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:27 CDT
Try these authors:
Dan Gutman
Fred Bowen
Thomas Dygard
Dean Hughes
Hank Herman
Emily Costello
Kim Dolce
Port Orange Regional Library
Port Orange, FL
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Elementary teachers in my local chapter of the Reading Council have asked
for recommendations for sports stories. Their students have read
Matt
Christopher' books until they are in shreds. Does anyone have suggestions
for other good authors?
Nancy Bostrom
Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library
Lewistown, MT
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From: "Mary K. Chelton" <mchelton@optonline.net>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: YA Definition
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:34 CDT
The official YALSA definition of "young adults" is "people who no
longer see
themselves as children but whom society does not yet see as adults." For
research and enumeration, YALSA says that these are people ages 12-18, which
was the working definition in the national fast response surveys in 1994 and
1997 that documented services to YAs. Historically, the service has
emphasized the move from children's services into adult, but in planning
programs, you have to think about the fact that there are developmental
differences within the adolescent age group. Patrick Jones' new book from
ALA, New Directions in Young Adult Services, explains this very nicely.
Mary K.
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Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Associate Professor
Graduate School of Library & Information Studies
Queens College
65-30 Kissena Blvd.
Flushing, NY 11367
(718) 997-3667 voice; 3790 office; 3797 fax
mchelton@optonline.net
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From: oconnellr@carnegielibrary.org
(Rebecca O'Connell)
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: CLEMATIS by Bertha B. and Ernest Cobb
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:41 CDT
Hi,
A patron is looking for a book from her childhood. The main character
may be named Clematis, and she may be an orphan. The patron remembers
a part of the story in which Clematis has to wear black stockings.
I know, it's not a lot to go on.
We found entries for CLEMATIS by Bertha B. and Ernest Cobb in several
ref books and catalogs, but I can't find a description of the book.
It was written in the late nineteenth century, but reissued in 1955.
I've tried Fiction, folklore, fantasy & poetry for children,
1876-85 :
author index, illustrator index, title
index, awards index
and the Library of Congress catalog as well as several histories of
children's literature and the Osborne collection catalog.
Are you familiar with this book? Could it be the one our customer is
looking for?
(It was on a rare books website for $125.00, but no plot summary was
available!)
Thanks,
Rebecca O'Connell
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
(412)622-3122
oconnellr@carnegielibrary.org
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From: holnb <holnb@llcoop.org>
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Subject: Re: apple puppet
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:48 CDT
I just did an apple storytime and used this poem:
HERMIE THE WORM
Hermie the worm got hungry one day,
He found a sweet apple and nibbled away.
He nibbled and tunneled
Until the day was done,
And then popped his head out
And said, "Isn't this fun!"
This would work well with your puppet....I had to be creative and made a
large
apple with a hole in it and a worm finger puppet to poke out of the hole.
For a craft I had red apples all cut out of posterboard.
Each had a
hole
for a worm to poke through. The children had to glue a green apple to the
stem
and clue a copy of the poem to the back. Then I drew eyes and a mouth on
their
pointer finger to be "Hermie".
Good luck!
Marsha Parham wrote:
> I have a small apple puppet with a green worm that pokes his head out. It
> is really cute, but I have never found a story or fingerplay that I can
use
> with it. Ususally I just introduce my apple storytime with it.
I am
doing
> the apple storytime for my tour groups during the month of October and
> would love to do something else. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> mmp
>
> **************************************
> M. Marsha Parham
> Flint River Regional Library
> 800 Memorial Dr.
> Griffin, GA 30223
> (770) 412-4770
> (770) 412-4771 (fax)
> parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us
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From: "Mary K. Chelton" <mchelton@optonline.net>
To: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu,
PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>,
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Subject: Community Profiles
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:15:55 CDT
Hi Everybody! I need your help.
One of the assignments in my young adult services class is to prepare a
community profile of the library's YA population, and the class goes nuts
every year because they hate digging around in statistics, hate the fact
that the boundaries of many statistical categories don't match what they
want, can't figure out what they all mean, etc., despite all my attempts to
explain.
My purpose in continuing this unpopular assignment is to immerse them in
these sources and make them think about what they mean and how they can help
a librarian think about the service community and trends in it, beyond what
they may only see at the service desk all day, or be told by the people
hiring them. I also point out that every branch manager in every system I've
worked in had to do such a profile and that having this skill was useful. I
also point out that they should probably do it for libraries where they are
seeking employment. I always did, just as a check on what I might be getting
into and how to evaluate what people told me.
Having said all that, I was wondering if any of you have recent community
profiles that you have compiled and would share with me to share with the
class? If so, I would be very grateful if you would mail a copy to the
address below or email one to me as an attachment.
Any comments on this subject for me, or for sharing with the class, are also
welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Mary K.
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Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Associate Professor
Graduate School of Library & Information Studies
Queens College
65-30 Kissena Blvd.
Flushing, NY 11367
(718) 997-3667 voice; 3790 office; 3797 fax
mchelton@optonline.net
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From: "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Late storytime arrivals
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I know locking the door would not go over in our library, and
I'm
surprised considering fire safety issues, that it would be allowed in any
public area.
I used to wait a few minutes before starting the programs,
but have
stopped doing so (unless the weather has caused most people to be late).
Since my programs are for the children under three, I find that if I don't
start promptly, I lose their attention more quickly than is customary with
the age group. Also as a coworker once pointed out, it doesn't seem fair
to
penalize those who show up on time by waiting for those who don't.
I visited a library once and noticed that they have a sign on
their
story time door that said something like: "Story time has started.
Sorry
we missed you. Hope to see you next week!"
I don't know how I would feel about that here, but I do think
it depends
on what your patrons are used to. I'm sure that to implement a policy
where
there wasn't one would cause problems in the beginning, but eventually the
public would get used to it. \
Clare Meehan
Carol Stream Public Library
Carol Stream,IL
clare329@earthlink.net
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>From: Loralee Armstrong <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Re: Late storytime arrivals
>Date: Thu, Sep 19, 2002, 12:52 AM
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>
>
> If you have storytime in a separate room just lock the door. I had
> quite a problem last year the same way but after giving each parent a
> letter that stated quite clearly (but politely) that latecomers would
> NOT be admitted and locking the door five minutes after we started,
> the problem cleared itself. My storytimes only run for half an hour
> so anyone coming in more than five minutes late missed a sizable
> portion of the session. Plus I run storytimes back to back with only
> a ten minute break between the toddler and the pre-schoolers so we
> really need to run on time.
>
> Loralee Armstrong
> Tacoma Public Library
>
> "Meddle not with dragons for thou art crunchy and taste good with
> catsup"
>
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From: "Kate Pappas" <Kate.Pappas@spl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: storytime latecomers
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Until I had problems with a huge group, I always had an open door.
Usually the latecomers would be in a configuration of
one-adult-plus-one-or-two-chidlren, and they would come in very quitely
and respectfully and sit at the back and it was no problem.
Then one summer I ended up with a group of fifty who came in a big
yellow school bus and were usually fifteen minutes late. I'd be halfway
thorugh my half-hour program, and everyone would be happy, and then all
of a sudden, this HUGE crowd would come surging in, giggly and
chattering and looking for seats.
After a couple sessions of this, all the other day cares and caregivers
complained--and justifiably so, in my opinion. So we plotted. We decided
to be like the symphony. I'd have the door open for five minutes past
the posted starting time, and anyone could come in during the greetings,
flannel board story and song. After that the door would be closed.
Period.
Latecomers would be allowed in during the stretch breaks between
stories, but they could no longer come in right in the middle of a
story.
I called everyone, just to be fair, so all would know and so the one
"bad" group wouldn't feel singled out. And then we posted signs on the
door, and held firm. My "regulars" gladly volunteered to take turns as
doorkeepers so that I could stay at the front of the room.
Sure enough, we started the next time at 10:30, closed the door at
10:35, and at 10:45 there was the whole group outside the door. They had
to wait until the story we were doing was finished, and then when we
were singing a song, the door was opened and they were allowed in.
After a few times of this, the group would either come early, or not
at all.And our sessions were not spoiled in the middle by disruptive
intrusions.
Once summer was over, the group quit coming, and now I leave the door
open again, and latecomers creep quietly in, in groups of two, three, or
four, and sit unobtrusively and politely at the back. And there is no
problem with that at all.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, you have to establish rules which
fit your situation. Fifty loud people coming in fifteen minutes late is
different from a few sneaking quietly in the back!
"K8" @ Rainier Beach Library, Seattle WA
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