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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 884


    PUBYAC Digest 884

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Collection Development question
by <sdgriner@iupui.edu>
  2) Re: Reporting child abuse
by <laanders@bellsouth.net>
  3) Re: Are librarians mandated reporters? (was Re: Abusive Parents
by Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
  4) YA Mysteries- Responses (long)
by "G Gallagher" <gglibrarian@hotmail.com>
  5) 2 Stumpers--Uncle who "tames" niece and Boy who won't sleep
by "Allison J. Enger" <aenger@monroe.lib.mi.us>
  6) late storytime arrivals
by Miriam Boots <Miriam@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us>
  7) Homework Centers
by MEUCHEL Aimee D <Aimee.D.Meuchel@ci.eugene.or.us>
  8) apple puppet responses (long)
by Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>

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From: <sdgriner@iupui.edu>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Collection Development question
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:06:26 CDT

Hi again everyone,

I need some more help. I am in graduate school for library science now
and I have to create a collection development plan around a certain
subject. My subject is musical theater for children or anything having
to do with it. What are some review sources that I can use for
selection purposes. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Stu Griner
Warsaw Community Public Library
310 East Main Street
Warsaw, IN 46580
574-267-6011
sgriner@wcpl.lib.in.us

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From: <laanders@bellsouth.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Reporting child abuse
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:06:32 CDT

I believe it is the law in Tennessee that anyone report suspected child
abuse.  I think it can be done anonymously.

Linda Anderson, Nashville
>
> From: gabe <gabeny13@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2002/10/08 Tue AM 11:12:45 EDT
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: Reporting child abuse
>
> It would seem to me there is no LEGAL question
> here having anything to do with being a library
> employee.  It would appear to me tht any private
> citizen who suspects a child is being abused
> should report it, period.  Let the proper
> authorities investigate.  Does not seem like this
> should entail a policy from ones workplace.  If I
> suspected a child was being abused whether he
> came to my storytime or played with my children
> or was in our scout troop, soccer team etc., I
> would report it. All of the thngs you mentioned,
> physical injuries, signs of neglect etc., are
> legitimate reasons to make some attempt to
> protect the child.  If one would only report it
> because your workplace requred it there are a lot
> of children that would continue to be abused.
> This seems a moral question to me not a
> procedural one.
>
> L. Dowling

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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Are librarians mandated reporters? (was Re: Abusive Parents
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:06:40 CDT

I've said it before, but it bears repeating: ask your local Child Protective
Services in for an in-service training. Ours says that they build up a
picture
based on information from a wide variety of (preferably) unrelated
sources. --
Mary Ann


>
> in Wisconsin I know that we are not and they aren't in Illinois either (my
> wife worked for the State of Illinois for several years) but that doesn't
> mean that they aren't in your state.  The best bet is to contact the
agency
> responsible for child welfare in your state.  They can also tell you how
to
> report abuse.  In Illinois there was a hotline that anyone could call but
> here in Wisconsin the first step is to call local law enforcement.
>
> >Just wondering, are librarians mandated reporters of child abuse?  I
> >know I was as a teacher, but am unsure of public librarian status.
>

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From: "G Gallagher" <gglibrarian@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: YA Mysteries- Responses (long)
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:06:47 CDT

Thanks to everyone who responded to my call for mysteries to appeal to 11-16
year old boys!  I've compiled a list of responses (trying to eliminate
duplicates):

Authors include:

Jay Bennett
Agatha Christie
Caroline Cooney
Robert Cormier
Lois Duncan
Alan Ferguson
Sue Grafton
Tony Hillerman
M.E. Kerr (Fell series)
Joan Lowery Nixon
Richard Peck
Willo Davis Roberts

Series that were suggested include:

The Three Investigators (sometimes called Alfred Hitchcock's The Three
Investigators) by Robert Arthur (and several other authors)
The Johnny Dixon books by John Bellairs
The P. C. Hawke Series by Paul Zindel (some titles: The E-Mail Murders, The
Slaying of the Shrew and The Square Root of Murder)
The danger.com Mysteries by Jordan Cray (some titles: Gemini7, Firestorm and
Shiver)
Brother Cadfael Series by Ellis Peter


Some individual titles suggested were:

The Demon in the Teahouse Dorothy Hoobler
The Ghost in the Tokaido Inn Dorothy Hoobler
For Mike by Shelley Sykes
The Boy in the Burning House  by Tim Wynne-Jones
Never Trust a Dead Man by Vivian VandeVelde
The Killer's Cousin by Nancy Werlin
Following Fake Man by Barbara Ware Holmes
How to Disappear Completely and Never Be Found by Sara Nickerson
Point Blank and Stormbreaker by Anthony Horowitz
The house with a clock in its walls by John Bellairs
Say Hello to the Hit Man by Jay Bennett
Tom Swift by Victor Appleton

Books by Eric Wilson:
The lost treasure of Casa Loma
The Ice diamond quest
Code red at the supermall
The Green Gables detectives
Summer of discovery
Murder of the Canadian


Suggestions with summaries:

Someone Was Watching - David Patneaude.  When his baby sister
disappears from the river near their summer home, eighth grader Chris
fights the assumption that she has drowned and uncovers evidence that
something entirely different has happened to her.

The Body of Christopher Creed - Carol Plum-Ucci.  Torey Adams, a high
school junior with a seemingly perfect life, struggles with doubts and
questions surrounding the mysterious disappearance of the class outcast.

Silent to the Bone - E. L. Konigsburg.  When he is wrongly accused of
gravely injuring his baby half-sister, thirteen-year-old Branwell loses
his power of speech and only his friend Connor is able to reach him and
uncover the truth about what really happened.

Ruby in the Smoke - Philip Pullman.  In nineteenth-century London,
sixteen-year-old Sally, a recent orphan, becomes involved in a deadly
search for a mysterious ruby.

Escape From Fear - Gloria Skurzynski.  1) Mysteries in our national
parks ; #9  While at St. John National Park in the Virgin Islands for a
seminar on coral reefs, the Landons help a wealthy thirteen-year-old to
find his birth mother, who he believes is in danger.

Nightmare - Willo Davis Roberts.  When a falling body strikes Nick's
car as he drives under an overpass, the police call the man's death a
suicide, but Nick suspects murder and finds his life in danger when he
tries to investigate.


P.C. Hawke was the most frequently mentioned of the above suggestions.
Thanks!


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From: "Allison J. Enger" <aenger@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: 2 Stumpers--Uncle who "tames" niece and Boy who won't sleep
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:06:55 CDT

Hello,

I am hoping someone will recognize these two books.  Our network is having
problems today, and I am having no luck with the resources I have available.

First Stumper:

Patron thinks the title may be "Beast Master" or "Beast Tamer" it is about a
girl (niece) who moves in with her Uncle and his family.  Her uncle is known
as the beast tamer as she is wild and he is able to control her. Our patron
thought it may have one a Caldecott or Newberry in the last 5 years, I
showed her the winners for the last decade and none of the titles sounded
right.

Second Stumper:

A little boy won't go to sleep and he begins to daydream. At some point he
realizes his daydreams are actually dreams and he is asleep. There may be a
character called the Dream Maker or Sandman who helps him sleep.

Our patron remembers both of them from within the last five years.  We can't
check our catalog, at the moment, so I am hoping these snippets sound
familiar.

Thanks for the help,

Allison

Allison J. Enger, MSLIS
Community Librarian
Dundee Branch Library
(734) 529-3310 phone/fax


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From: Miriam Boots <Miriam@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>, Beckyt@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us
Subject: late storytime arrivals
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:07:02 CDT

Hi all,
I have been following this thread and we all seem to be dealing with
similar problems. This is always very reassuring!
I do have latecomers too, but we have an open door policy and I continue
with the program (if during a song or fingerplay, I may say "we are glad
you are here").  The only time I close the door (and it is not locked
during storytime from either side) is during Baby Storytime (children
birth to 18 months) when the little ones tend to "escape" and that is
the only one I request be just parent/caregiver and baby (siblings etc.
are welcome at all of the other programs).
One thing that has helped me and I use often is to say "your storytime
may begin after mine does (tell them it is OK to arrive late) and your
storytime may end before mine does (give them "permission" to leave)".
Sometimes this helps with an upset child or a storytime with lots of
distractions- sometimes the parent doesn't realize it's OK to leave
early. I try to be very supportive and helpful to my storytime parents-
I'm always so happy that they come to programs!
Miriam Boots
Children's Librarian
St Tammany Parish Library, Louisiana
Miriam@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us

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From: MEUCHEL Aimee D <Aimee.D.Meuchel@ci.eugene.or.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Homework Centers
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:07:09 CDT

The City of Eugene, Oregon is opening a new downtown library at the end of
this year.  Within our new Children's Center we will have a
homework/research/computer center (as yet unnamed).  We are wondering how
other libraries have set up this type of area.  If you have an area as
described, please email me with any pertinent information.  Some of our
questions include: do you use CD-ROMS (if so, what types?), do you provide
homework help (if so, does staff do this or volunteers?), and what types of
books/resources are located here?  Please provide me as much information as
possible, including any considerations we need to make and any advice you
may have!  Please email me directly, not the list!

Thank you so much for your response,
Aimee

Aimee Meuchel
Youth Services Librarian
Eugene Public Library
Eugene, OR
(541) 682-8480

"Very senior librarians...once they have proved themselves worthy by
performing some valiant act of librarianship, are accepted into a secret
order and are taught the raw arts of survival beyond the Shelves We Know."
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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From: Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: apple puppet responses (long)
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Date: Wed,  9 Oct 2002 17:07:16 CDT

I sent the following request:

I have a small apple puppet with a green worm that pokes his head out. It
is really cute, but I have never found a story or fingerplay that I can use
with it ...  Does anyone have any suggestions?

There were so many, many suggestions.  The following is a cut and paste
list.  I hope that I didn't forget anyone.

Thanks
mmp

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I have 2 of these and I use them with "Way up high in the apple tree, two
little apples smiled at me. I shook that tree as hard as I could. Down came
the apples. Mmmmm!! Were they good!"
You could also use it in an "I Spy" game on Food or Trees or Fall.

Hope this helps.
Sue

Sue Albert, Children's Librarian
DeWitt Community Library
3649 Erie Blvd. East
DeWitt, NY 13214
(315)446-3578
skalbert@dreamscape.com

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In an apple red and firm
I found a wiggly wiggly worm
Good morning, I said, how are you today?
But the wiggly worm just wiggled away!

Kids love it- I use it every year with that apple puppet!
Judy
"Judy Keesan" <jkeesan@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>

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Just made this up sung to Muffin man.  You could add some wiggly eyes and
turn the apple into an apple man.

Have you met the apple man,=20
the apple man, the apple man,
have you met the apple man,
and his wormy friend.

The apple man he loves to read
loves to read, loves to read,
the apple man he loves to read
to his wormy friend

The apple man is glad you came,
glad you came, glad you came,
the apple man is glad you came,
and so is his wormy friend.

Tina Hager
Youth Services Librarian
Carrollton Public Library, TX

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My favorite 3-year-old girl taught me this:
(to the tune of "Mary Had a Little Lamb")
Johnny had an apple,
An apple,
An apple,
Johnny had an apple,
With a green worm inside!

Hope this helps!

Curry Rose Hoskey
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd
Eastham, MA  02642-3109
jadwigapup@yahoo.com
w)508-240-5950

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I have a similar puppet. I've used:

(to the tune of "Where is Thumbkin")
Where is little worm?
Where is little worm?
Here I am.
Here I am.
How are you today sir?
Very well I thank you.
Crawl away...
Crawl away...

(and the little worm crawls back inside the apple.)
Have fun!

Kristin Arnett
Pierce County Library System
University Place Library
3605 Bridgeport Way W.
University Place, WA 98466
253.565.9447

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Hi,
    I use Katya Arnold's That Apple is Mine with the apple/worm puppet as
well as the following rhyme:
        I saw an apple on the ground.
        It looked delicious, red and round.
        I picked it up to take a nibble.
        Oh my goodness, there's a worm in the middle!

Another possibility is:
        There was a fuzzy caterpillar who wiggled all around.
        One day she saw a bright red apple lying on the ground.
        "Oh, I love apples," said the caterpillar,
        And opened her mouth wide.
        Then she munched and crunched and lunched right through that apple,
        And peeked out the other side.

Regards, Susan

Susan Porter
ssporter@attbi.com

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I do an Apple theme storytime, and own the same finger puppet.  Here are
three rhyme/fps that could go with it.

WIGGLY WIGGLY WORM
(Tune:  The Farmer in the Dell)
The wiggly, wiggly worm
The wiggly, wiggly worm
The wiggly, wiggly, wiggly worm
Is wiggling in the apple.

HERMIE THE WORM
Hermie the worm got hungry one day,
He found a sweet apple and nibbled away.
He nibbled and tunneled
Until the day was done,
And then pupped his head out
And said, "Isn't this fun!"

SEE MY APPLE  (My favorite, and the kids (and moms) like it)
See my apple, red and round.
  (show plain apple side)
I picked it up from off the ground.
 (pretend to pick apple)
But wen I went to take a bite,
  (pretend to bite into apple)
Look what gave me a terrible fright!
  (wiggle worm out of apple and show)

Carol Janoff                      cjanoff@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us
Librarian I
Mesquite Branch Library
Phoenix, AZ

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I just did an apple storytime and used this poem:
   HERMIE THE WORM

   Hermie the worm got hungry one day,
   He found a sweet apple and nibbled away.
   He nibbled and tunneled
   Until the day was done,
   And then popped his head out
   And said, "Isn't this fun!"

This would work well with your puppet....I had to be creative and made a
large
apple with a hole in it and a worm finger puppet to poke out of the hole.
     For a craft I had red apples all cut out of posterboard. Each had a
hole
for a worm to poke through.  The children had to glue a green apple to the
stem
and clue a copy of the poem to the back.  Then I drew eyes and a mouth on
their
pointer finger to be "Hermie".
    Good luck!

holnb <holnb@llcoop.org>

OOPS!
    I replied to the inquiry for a poem to use with an apple/worm
puppet.
    I also mentioned the craft that I did with my storytimers.  It
should have read that they glued a green LEAF (not apple!) to the apples
cut out of red posterboard.
   NB

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I would use the apple puppet with The Very Quiet
Cricket by Eric Carle.  There is a worm munching its
way out of an apple.

Hope this helps,
Amy Brown

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Here is one I have used--
       I found an apple all shiney and red
       It looked so delicious to me.
       I opend my mouth to take a big bite
       Uh-oh!  What did I see?
       A little hole all soft and brown
       That apple had something inside!
       I opened it up and a worm looked at me
       With a frin on his face a mile wide!

Loralee Armstrong
Tacoma Public Library

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I have the same puppet, and here is the rhyme I use:

Shiny red apples, hanging on a tree (hold the puppet up high)
Whoosh! went the wind, and one fell on me (lower the puppet to "hit me" on=
 my=20
head)
I picked it up and I started to laugh,
'Cause I found a surprise when I cut it in half.

Until the very last line of the poem, I keep the worm side turned away from=
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the kids.  Then it's a big surprise when I turn it around and they see the=
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worm wiggle.

Hope this helps!

Jill Dempsey Baurichter
Children's Librarian
Kenton County Public Library

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This is a wonderful website for help with StoryTime planning.  It has a
unit on apples and some of the activities/poems, etc. involve worms.

http://www.hummingbirded.com/llp.html

Best,

Toni

Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian

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Okay, I've got one of those apples with worm puppets, too, & have wondered
what to do with it. Thanks for the poems.

Now I got inspired and re-wrote an old classic to go with it, for a
preschool story time:
   The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
   They crawl in the apple and out your mouth.
   All up your arm they wiggle and wriggle,
   Around your neck they make you giggle.
   You pick them off, and put them down
   In a pile of dirt they'll find a new home!

Ta-da!
Isobel Drysdale
Pueblo, CO

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Ideas for worm:
As a "Bookworm," the worm could talk about any favorite books.

The worm could talk to the apple or to you about favorite food books.

The story "Widemouthed Frog" features a worm. You could use the worm to
introduce the story.  "Did you ever eat a FLY!!!???  Would you like to?
Would you like to hear a story about a FROG that eats FLIES???"  or "You
don't eat WORMS, do you?  I HOPE NOT!!!  There's a bird in this story
that eats WORMS!!!  Can you BELIEVE it?  You wouldn't eat me, would
you??  OH, GOOD!"

You could teach children this fingerplay to perform for the worm.

Little Wiggle Worm...
The Eensy-Weensy Spider
 The little wiggle worm                        (wiggle pipe cleaner
worm)
 Went crawling underground.               (wiggle worm under hand)
 Down Came the rain;                         (wiggle fingers downward)
 Soon mud was all around.                  (open arms wide)

 Rain filled the tunnels                         (open hand; move
fingers together)
 And pushed out the little worm.                (push worm through other
hand)
 So the puddles on the ground              (make an O with hand)
 Were the only place to squirm.            (wiggle worm into O)

My FAVORITE apple saying is: "We know how many seeds are in an apple,
but no one knows how many apples are in a seed." (This is good for
teachers and librarians and daycare workers who work with children.
They don't know how much good (apples) will result from all the "seeds"
they are planting in these young minds.)

Enjoy your worm!
 Mary Gonzalez <marycgon@lmxac.org>

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Hi,
I have a version of "Herman the Worm"=20
Just see if it is what you want

Sitting on the fence chewing my bubble gum
chum  chum chum  (boucing up and down)
Playing with my Yo-Yo=20
Wee, wee  (play with yo-yo)
And along came Herman the Worm
and he was this big (show about an inches with your fingers)

Sitting on the fence, chewing my bubble gum
...
...
and along came Herman the Worm
and he was this big ( show about 6 inches with your hands)
I said Herman what happened
He said I ate my sister.

Sitting on the fence, chewing my bubble gum
...
..
And along came Herman the worm
 and he was this big (show 12 inches with hand )
I said Herman what happened
He said I ate my brother

...
(go through as many family members as you want, getting bigger and bigger=20
but end with)

Sitting on the fence, chewing my bubble gum
..
...
And along came Herman the worm
and he was this big ( show an inch, again)
I said Herman what happened
He said :I BURPED


I hope this helps, Patricia
"Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>

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I also have the following poem that someone sent me.  I can't find the
original e-mail with their name.
This was copied for storytime.  mmp
A Wiggly Worm

(sung to the tune of "Boom! Boom! Ain't It Great to Be Crazy?")

Chorus
Yum! Yum! Don't you know I love apples?
Yum! Yum! Don't you know I love apples?
Red and green and yellow too=85
Yum! Yum! Don't you know I love apples?

Way up high in an apple tree, I saw two eyes look at me.
I reached for an apple: it started to squirm=85oops! I found a wiggly worm!

Chorus

That wiggly worm is a friend of mine. We eat apples all the time.
I let him crawl back to that tree=85hey! I see that worm looking at me!

Chorus

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Again thank you so much for your help.


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M. Marsha Parham
Flint River Regional Library
800 Memorial Dr.
Griffin, GA 30223
(770) 412-4770
(770) 412-4771 (fax)
parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us

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