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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 922


    PUBYAC Digest 922

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) that Barbie thing
by "Henegar, Sharon" <SLHenegar@ocpl.org>
  2) Board Book shelving
by "Steven Engelfried" <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
  3) Re: Rock-a-bye Baby
by rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us
  4) Barbie
by MzLibrary@aol.com
  5) Re: Origins
by "Jennifer Murphy" <jennmurph@hotmail.com>
  6) RE: Internet Access and the Public
by wilterding <wilterding@tarleton.edu>
  7) Re: FW: [sla-cbos] Vote for Barbie! (fwd)
by rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us
  8) Viking stumper
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
  9) Lawyers for Libraries
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
 10) 2 stumpers (1 picture book & 1 fingerplay)
by <amannin@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 11) The Free Expression Policy Project (FEPP) Fellowship
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
 12) Pony Stumper
by "Robinson, Heather" <hrobinson@st-thomas.library.on.ca>
 13) Vague stumper answer
by Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>

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From: "Henegar, Sharon" <SLHenegar@ocpl.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: that Barbie thing
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:24:24 CST

I just voted and see that 'librarian' is ahead!!

Sharon Henegar
Coordinator of Children's Services
Orange County Public Library

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From: "Steven Engelfried" <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: Board Book shelving
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:24:33 CST

We're looking for something fun, sturdy, and workable to keep our board =
book collection. We're considering a "Crocodile Book Display" that you =
can order through Demco and are particularly interested to know if =
anyone has that in a library (or the "Hippo" one).  We're worred it =
might not be sturdy enough and may be too tall for board book readers.  =
But we'd also love to hear if anyone has any kind of board book shelving =
set-up they'd recommend...

Steven Engelfried, Children's Division Librarian
Beaverton City Library
12375 SW 5th Street
Beaverton, OR  97005
503-526-2599  sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us

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From: rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us
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Subject: Re: Rock-a-bye Baby
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:24:41 CST

I had to share this comic:

http://www.ucomics.com/catswithhands/2002/11/10/

Do with it what you will. :)

:) ruhama

Ruhama Kordatzky
Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library
rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us

"...you think of [Wisconsin] as being this nice friendly state full of
decent, God-fearing, cow-oriented people..."  Dave Barry, A Sort of History
of the United States

----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: Rock-a-bye Baby

> Patron is missing the whole point of Rock-a-bye Baby as a lap rhyme
> where you set the baby down between your knees at the end. -- Mary Ann
> G.
>
> karen mullins wrote:
>
> > A patron has requested a newer version of the classic nursery rhyme
> > "rock-a-bye baby".
> >
> > Does anyone know of version that does not let "the cradle fall"?

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From: MzLibrary@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Barbie
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:24:49 CST

You can vote for the next Career Barbie at this site.  Choose between
architect,  policewoman or ... LIBRARIAN.  Most of us are a little afraid of
what she'll look like.  Maybe we send our comments in on THAT too.
http://www.barbie.com/parents/products/products_icanbe2.asp

Charlotte Rabbitt, Children's Librarian
Peterborough Town Library
Peterborough, New Hampshire
mzlibrary@aol.com
http://townofpeterborough.com/library
"A library is a most congenial place for happily-ever-aftering." ~ Karen
Hesse

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From: "Jennifer Murphy" <jennmurph@hotmail.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Origins
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:24:56 CST

Ha ha, thanks--I hope you gave her Arnold Lobel's THE GREAT BLUENESS AND
OTHER PREDICAMENTS to answer that color question!  (I had to help a young
lady find the "inventor of chemistry" yesterday.  It turns out, of course,
that any mathematician will do.)

Jenn Murphy
jennmurph@hotmail.com



> From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: just sharing...
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>
> thought I'd share this one with the group...
>
> Today we were both baffled and amused by an
> interesting "reference question"
>
> A young lady working on her science fair project
> needed to know the history of liquid, heat and color,
> particularly who *discovered* them.
>
> ????
> at least it's never boring!
> ~j.
>
> =====
> ~jenniferbaker
> "If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
> ~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones")

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From: wilterding <wilterding@tarleton.edu>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Internet Access and the Public
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:25:05 CST

Diane,
As far as I know the online OED requires a subscription, so you'd need to
see
if the university in which you are enrolled subscribes to it, set your proxy
server, and log in using your student username and password (at least that's
what our students have to do).  You might be able to find a soviet
(Russian?)
dictionary online that supplies what you need.  Otherwise, you'll also need
to
check with your library.

In Texas, academic and public libraries have formed a consortium called
TexShare, which allows registered patrons to use all enrolled libraries.  If
Wisconsin has a similar program, you might be able to enroll and use library
collections close to you.

Also, you might see what services your university offers to distance
education
students, such as document delivery, ILL, online checkout, etc.

I hope this information helps, and I'm very interesting in hearing what
others
offer as suggestions.

Good luck,
Cathy Wilterding
Reference Librarian
Dick Smith Library
Tarleton State University
Stephenville, TX


>===== Original Message From Diane Raschke <draschke@mail.owls.lib.wi.us>
=====
>I'm  a distance student and need to use different reference materials
>online;like the Oxford English Dictionary, a soviet encylopedia, etc.
>How do I get to them online?
>
>--
>Diane Raschke, Children's Librarian
>Clintonville Public Library
>75 Hemlock Street
>Clintonville, WI  54929
>Phone: 715-823-4563  Fax: 715-823-7134
>mailto: draschke@mail.owls.lib.wi.us

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From: rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: FW: [sla-cbos] Vote for Barbie! (fwd)
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:25:13 CST

I shared this vote with some of my fellow staff workers and they were
wondering what kind of accessories would Barbie have?  A bookmobile?  Will
she have a bun, glasses and a sweater?

The teacher doesn't look that bad, so a librarian will probably turn out
okay (at least we can hope).  Maybe Barbie can portray the profession as
modern (complete with talking computer, perhaps?)!  And obviously not
everyone is worried about Barbie as a librarian--when I went in today to
look, the kids votes were up 15% from when I last looked, and the parent
vote was up to 80% (it was at 45% last I looked).

By the way--if anyone knows of other "librarian" toys or dolls, could you
let me know?  I started to investigate this as a fun thing to share for
Christmas gift ideas for librarians.  Thanks!

:) ruhama

Ruhama Kordatzky
Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library
rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us

"...you think of [Wisconsin] as being this nice friendly state full of
decent, God-fearing, cow-oriented people..."  Dave Barry, A Sort of History
of the United States

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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Viking stumper
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:34:37 CST

Hello all;

One of our regular patrons came in looking for a book that she read =
several years ago. The story was historical fiction for children, set in =
Viking times. The plot revolves around 2 teenage brothers, one of whom was =
possibly named Jan or Ian. Although the boys are the central characters, =
the parents also had significant parts.=20

The boys were always together until something, possibly some natural =
disaster, separates them. At that point they live different lives and have =
different adventures. One of the boys becomes a Christian along the way. =
At the end of the story the brothers are reunited and all ends happily.

My patron said she read this book to her children in the early '90s but =
she is sure it wasn't new. She thinks it was around 250-300 pages, quite =
long for a children's book...but it was a fast paced adventure story. She =
doesn't know how she came upon the book in the first place but feels sure =
that someone recommended it to her.  Her feeling is that the book could =
have been published in the '70s, '80s, or even earlier.

We checked Junior Genreflecting and What do I read next with no luck. I'd =
appreciate any ideas!


Kim E. Dolce
Children's Librarian
Port Orange Regional Library
Port Orange, FL  32129
kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us

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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: Lawyers for Libraries
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:34:48 CST

November 15, 2002

Lawyers for Libraries
http://www.ala.org/lawyers/index.html

Lawyers for Libraries, an ongoing project of the American Library
Association Office for Intellectual Freedom, is designed to create a
network of attorneys around the country involved in, or committed to
becoming involved in, the defense of the First Amendment freedom to read
and the application of constitutional law to library policies,
principles, and problems.

The first two training institutes were held in 1997 and 1998 and proved
very successful. Beginning in 2003, we will be sponsoring regional
training institutes to ensure that libraries throughout the United
States will have access to effective representation when dealing with
First Amendment issues.

In addition to the scheduled institutes in Washington, D.C., and
Chicago, IL, we will soon announce dates and locations for future
regional institutes. If interested in staying informed about upcoming
Lawyers for Libraries events, please contact the office at
lawyers@ala.org or 1-800-545-2433, ext. 4226.




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From: <amannin@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: 2 stumpers (1 picture book & 1 fingerplay)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:34:55 CST

Hello Everyone,

I have 2 stumpers for you.

For the first, we do not have much information.  We know that it is a
picture
book from at least 20 years ago. Probably black and white pencil
illustrations, particularly one of a cat looking up at a kitchen counter.
The
story is about the life of a cat and its owner, who is an old lady.


For the second stumper we need a citation for song/poem probably called "3
Puppies Song." Lyrics: In downtown Philadelphia, Upon a busy street, Three
puppies found a pretzel, which looked very good to eat. The first one
sniffed
it cautiously, the second took a bite, The third one snapped it in its jaws
and darted out of site.
We did find it on the Internet, but it was someones personal website, with
no
other information.

Thank-you,
Andrea Malchiodi
Children's and Parents' Services Librarian
Mastics-Moriches-Shirley Community Library

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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: The Free Expression Policy Project (FEPP) Fellowship
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:35:03 CST

The Free Expression Policy Project (FEPP) Fellowship Opportunity
http://www.fepproject.org/fepp/fellowship.html

"The Free Expression Policy Project (FEPP) invites applications for a
one-year, full-time research fellowship in the area of artistic and
intellectual freedom. The fellow will be responsible for developing and
completing a major research project, to be published as a FEPP policy
report. The fellow will also write commentaries for the FEPP Web site
and complete shorter research assignments."

"Send application materials by January 15, 2003 to: Marjorie Heins,
Director, Free Expression Policy Project, 275 Seventh Ave. 9th fl., New
York, NY 10001."

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From: "Robinson, Heather" <hrobinson@st-thomas.library.on.ca>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Pony Stumper
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:35:11 CST

Hi!

Just wondering if anyone would be able to help me.  I have a patron who is
looking for a  book that she thinks is about 30 years old.  It is about
three ponies (one black, one white and one pink) that tie on fancy hats and
prance about.  That is all that she could remember.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  I have not been able to find
anything in my reference sources.

With thanks,
Heather Robinson
hrobinson@st-thomas.library.on.ca
St. Thomas Public Library

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From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Vague stumper answer
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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:35:20 CST

Thank you to all who sent responses to my request for books about sacred
places that were not specific churches or temples. Sacred Places by
Philomen Sturges was suggested by a number or people as well as a
collection of poems by Jane Yolen (Sacred Places) we found some things in
our collection and placed a hold for the Sturges book.
Thanks again
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org

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