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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 934
PUBYAC Digest 934
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: substitute for Storytime treasures
by "Olivia Spicer" <ospicer@loudoun.gov>
2) I got my library card stickers
by Jennifer Parker <jmpwel@yahoo.com>
3) Barbie and Ken
by "michael crosby"<mdcrosby@earthlink.net>
4) *Thanks, Stumper "The King Who Rained"
by "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
5) RE: Barbie--Librarian
by "Barron, Stacie" <StacieB@mail.jefferson.lib.la.us>
6) G.A. Henty (long!!)
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
7) Story-Time Expusion
by "Regina Slaughter" <granniep4@hotmail.com>
8) Re: Wrinkle in Time Error
by BOGART Debra <dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us>
9) Re: Wrinkle in Time Error
by Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
10) RE: Storytime expulsion???
by cora ciampi <talescj@yahoo.com>
11) Icebreakers
by "Wiest, Terri" <twiest@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
12) Re: Barbie--Librarian
by "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
13) Stumper - Sleigh Ride
by hunzigel@hhpl.on.ca (Lisa Hunziger)
14) Re: yet more librarian image babble
by Karin Grossmann <karingrossmann@monarch.net>
15) CopyCat ending?
by "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
16) older CD-ROM games
by "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>
17) songs / rhymes for sticks
by "Christine Montgomery" <christine.montgomery@lpl.london.on.ca>
18) Young Adult/Teen Space ???? (long)
by Charli Osborne <Cosborne@oxford.lib.mi.us>
19) Rainforest
by "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
20) Main Library Service
by lcole <lcole@du.edu>
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From: "Olivia Spicer" <ospicer@loudoun.gov>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: substitute for Storytime treasures
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:09:09 CST
I think that Copy Cat is also ending.
Olivia I. Spicer
Youth Services Librarian
Loudoun County Public Library
Rust Library
380 Old Waterford Rd.
Leesburg, VA 20176
Tel: 703-771-5624
ospicer@loudoun.gov
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From: Jennifer Parker <jmpwel@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: I got my library card stickers
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:09:23 CST
Hello Everyone,
I know this question has been answered before but unfortunately I didn't
keep the information. Does anyone know where you can get stickers/pencils
etc that say I got my library card today? We are hoping to start a
program
to get every third grader in town a library card and would like to give out
stickers etc to the children.
We will concentrate on other grades in the coming years.
Jennifer Parker
jmpwel@yahoo.com
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From: "michael crosby"<mdcrosby@earthlink.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Barbie and Ken
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:09:32 CST
Did you know that Barbie the librarian met Ken in Library School? Girls
aren't the only ones interested in books, you know.
Ken is now working and doing a great job as a Children's Librarian for an
inner-city library. Now G.I. (Gathering Information) Joe wants to do Story
Time.
Careful of those stereotypes.
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From: "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: *Thanks, Stumper "The King Who Rained"
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Thanks so much to all of you who responded about the Fred Gwynne books.
I phoned the patron and she was very pleased. I enjoyed readng them
myself, once you all brought them to my attention.
Thanks again,
Laura Gruninger, Children's Librarian
Mercer County Library System, Lawrence HQ
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
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From: "Barron, Stacie" <StacieB@mail.jefferson.lib.la.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: RE: Barbie--Librarian
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Stu,
I think you should go for it. There must be a way to write Mattel and get
a
Ken Librarian too.
Stacie Barron
Children's Librarian
East Bank Regional Library
4747 W. Napoleon
Metairie, LA 70001
(504) 849-8812
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From: sdgriner@iupui.edu
[mailto:sdgriner@iupui.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:12 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Barbie--Librarian
I think that Mattel should have a "Ken Librarian" for the minority of
males out there.
How do I get Mattel to do that?
Stu Griner
Warsaw Community Public Library
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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: G.A. Henty (long!!)
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I've had some requests for the critical reviews we used in investigating
G.A. Henty, so here are the excerpts we found pertinent. They are from
scholarly journals, from academics who study Victorian Literature (think
Byatt's Possession). The author is listed before the excerpt, and citations
will be found at the end of the post (Sorry so long, Shannon!)
Logan: "Mr. Goodenough [the naturalist from _By Sheer Pluck: A
tale of
the Ashanti War_] proceeds to give Frank [the hero] a brief history of the
different ethnic groups in West Africa. He describes what he believes is
typical:
'They are just like children. They are always laughing or quarreling.
They are good-natured and passionate, indolent, but will work hard for a
time; clever up to a certain point, densely stupid beyond. The
intelligence of an average negro is about equal to that of a European child
of ten years old. A few, a very few, go beyond this, but these are
exceptions, just as Shakespeare was an exception to the ordinary intellect
of an Englishman. They are fluent talkers, but their ideas are borrowed.
They are absolutely without originality, absolutely without inventive
power. Living among white men, their imitative faculties enable them to
attain a considerable amount of civilization,. Left alone to their own
devices they retrograde into a state little above their native savagery.'"
Schmidt: "Henty depicted African men as warriors, domestic servants,
and
carriers for Europeans. He did not develop the men as characters nor did
he show them interacting with other Europeans or Africans in terms of
African values. Their every action was either implicitly or explicitly
judged by Henty. Whereas the British "soldiers" fight with the
"steady
discipline" required by Victorian values, African "savage,"
"brutal,"
"hot-blooded" and "bloodthirsty warriors" fight with
"wild courage."
African "warriors" have no just motives for fighting in Henty's
novels, but
their values are imputed by the heroes, as when one observes that "Negroes
have an immense respect for strength." In Henty's novels, the wars are
totally removed from the African contexts in which they were fought.
British goals and carefully planned battle strategies are emphasized.
Africans are constantly degraded as being "stupid niggers,"
"wretched,"
"barbarous," "wild looking", and talking in truncated forms
of English. On
those few occasions when Africans are depicted in domestic situations, they
are evaluated rather than described in cultural context, as when the
Ashanti are observed by one of the heroes: 'Frank was often filled with
disgust at seeing the noble savages lying indolently from morn til night"
while their wives worked.'"
Logan: "...[By Sheer Pluck] ex-slave Sam [now living in Sierra Leone],
compares slavery in the U.S. with that in Cuba, and his comparison makes
the American plantation almost Edenic:
'Well, Sir, work bery much de same on plantation in Virginia and Cuba, but
de slabe much merrier in 'Merica....Slabes all treat bery kind, work not
too hard. At night dance and sing bery much....Sam jus' as happy as man
could be. Sometime when der am party, Sam come into the house to help at
de table, dat how sam know how to do tings proper...
'Me trabel a good deal, and me tink dat no working people in de world are
so merry and happy as de slabe in a plantation wid a good massa and missy.
Dey not work so hard as de white man. Dey have plenty to eat and drink,
... when dey are sick dey are taken care ob, when dey are ole dey are
looked after and hab noting to do. I have heard people talk a lot of
nonsense about de hard life of de plantation slabe. Dat not true, sar, wid
a good massa.'
"...in his novel With Lee in Virginia (1890), he concludes with an
explicit, unambivalent political message:
'A few (liberated slaves) wandered away, but their places were easily
filled; for the majority of the freed slaves very soon discovered that
their lot was a far harder one than it had been before, and that freedom so
suddenly given was a curse rather than a blessing to them.'"
Butts: "Henty's view is nonetheless an inadequate one, even if we see
that
he was not a simple-minded racist. His view of slaves is that of the
sentimental stereotype. The negroes are 'very like children and indulgence
spoils them,' says Mrs. Wingfield [With Lee in Virginia], and they are
'naturally indolent and shiftless' (Chapter 1). With good masters, their
condition is better than Europeans, we are told repeatedly not least
because 'the climate was a lovely one'. (Over 100 degrees in the summer
months!)...Not least, Henty ignores the fact that people may actually
prefer political freedom, with the risk of lower living standards, to
having higher standards under a political tyranny. henty, is of, course,
reflecting the standard view of many southerners who decided that slaves
were happy because they wanted to believe it...Henty simply ignores many of
the realities of the situation, as many middleclass Englishmen ignored the
social distress in England."
Pruen: [From _With Kitchener in the Soundan_]"...the Emir's son is
given a
lecture by Gregory's father on the might of England. The young man is
suitably impressed and confesses his people's inferiority: 'I begin to see
that we are very ignorant. We can fight but that is all that we are good
for. How much better it would be if instead of regarding you white men as
enemies, we could get some of you to live here and teach us the wonderful
things that you know ...'"
Butts: "Henty's capacity to hold often-unresolved contradictions in
his
books in this way is what helped to make him a popular writer, because his
books, as with the structure of With Lee in Virginia, often articulated
some of the unresolved contradictions in late Victorian England."
This is Lin. Some critics noted that Henty was not entirely one-sided:
Butts: "It is the slave Dan who helps Vincent escape from prison in
chapter ten, accompanying him on the long journey south; and it is the
ex-slave Tony, now a sergeant in the Union army, who helps Vincent escape
again when he is caught spying near Cold Harbour and likely to be
executed."
Savage: "In these two stories, [_The Young Carthaginian_ and _By
Right of
Conquest_], Henty's treatment of racial and sexual stereotypes differs from
that generally attribulted to him. For instance, both Malchus and Roger
marry outside their community. Malchus marries a Gaullish princess and
adopts her people as his own. Roger does return to his home, but...he
brings his Indian princess with him. Both these girls display an energy
and enterprise that Henty did not usually allow his female characters."
"'Color does not matter very much,' Roger thought to himself, 'Malinche is
just as good and kind as if she were white.'"
This is Lin. There were also some criticisms of Henty's historical
accuracy:
Ranson: "Serious attention has been paid to him as a propagator of
British
imperialism since a seminal article by Godfrey Davis was published in
1955...Henty belittles the contribution of the Spaniards to the war and
berates the British Tory government. Henty also grossly simplifies the
difficulties of a military struggle against Napoleon. Worse, he even
includes such incidents as those in _The Young Buglers_ where the young
hero leads the French to attack a Spanish guerilla stronghold and in _Under
Wellington's Command_ where British prisoners join the French against the
guerillas. No such events are known, and they are improbable since the
Spanish were the allies of Britain, but they give a dismissive cast to the
contributions of the Spanish and suggest Henty's ignorance of the actual
conditions of peninsular warfare."
"Other careless mistakes are glaring. In With Moore at Corunna Henty gives
two different figures on the same page for the number of men commanded by
General Moore; and the account of the battle of Busaco has several mistakes
based on Henty's misunderstanding of the terrain. Davis concludes, 'small
mistakes matter little in novels written for boys but the distortion of the
whole course of the war is serious...The cumulative effect of these errors
is that no young reader who relied on Henty's books on the peninsular war
would be able to give a good answer to the question that demands an answer:
why did Napoleon, with his superiority in numbers fail to defeat Arthur
Wellesley, the first Duke of Wellington, and hold down the Spanish?'"
Dunae: "Henty's most recent biographers-William Allan and Guy Arnold:
concede that he adopted a rather "slap-dash' approach to his historical
fictions. Even so, most students agree that Henty's books help to clarify
the age and the society for which they were written."
Citations: (From Children's Literature Review, Vol. 76)
Logan, Mauwena. "Henty and the Ashantis," in _Children's
Literature
Association, Vol. 16, no. 2 Summer, 1991, p. 82-6
Schmidt, Nancy J. "Adventure Stories" _Children's Fiction about
Africa in
English, Conch Magazine Limited, 1981, pp. 105-08.
Butts, Dennis. "Henty's Representative Significance: A Reading
of 'With
Lee in Virginia'" _Henty Society Bulletin_, Vol. 3, No. 24, June, 1983, pp.
6-10.
Pruen, Rev. H. "With Kitchener in the Soudan" _Henty Society
Bulletin_,
Vol. 3, No. 17, September, 1981 pp.3-5
Savage, Gail. "G.A. Henty and the Rise and Fall of Empires: The
Young
Carthaginian and By Right of Conquest" _Henty Society Bulletin_, Vol. 3,
No. 23, March 1983, pp.3-6.
(From Literature Resource Center [Gale Database])
Dunae, Patrick. "G.A. Henty" _Dictionary of Literary
Biography, Vol. 18"
The Gale Group, 1983 142-48.
Ranson, Nicholas. "G. A. Henty" _Dictionary of Literary
Biography, Vol.
141. The Gale Group, 1994 pp.118-133.
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From: "Regina Slaughter" <granniep4@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Story-Time Expusion
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It would have to be a last resort to ask someone to stop bringing their
child to story-time, but I would definitely not subject the other children
to an unruly, screaming child who is old enough to know better.
If the parents don't have enough sense to handle the child themselves, then
I would explain that it is not fair to the other children and the child
would not be able to return until he was able to sit still and listen and
follow the story-time rules.
I love kids and I am very flexible if a child has a handicap or is small
enough to make exceptions for, but the situation you described calls for
drastic measures.
Regina Slaughter-Children's Librarian
Edmonson County Public Library
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From: BOGART Debra <dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us>
To: linmail14@mln.lib.ma.us, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Wrinkle in Time Error
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It's hard to get excited about a Disney version. They made a movie (TV) last
fall of Ring of Endless Light, and my daughter and I were both very
disappointed in it. It consisted mostly of giggling teenagers, the brother
was
completely left out, as was much of the essential story.
Debra Bogart
541-726-2243
dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us
Youth Services
Springfield Public Library
225 Fifth Street
Springfield, OR 97477
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed people can change
the
world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."Margaret Mead
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From: Becky Smith <bsmith@loganutah.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Wrinkle in Time Error
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There's a trailer for "A Wrinkle in Time" on the "Spy Kids"
video, which
says "A Wrinkle in Time" is "coming soon to ABC and soon after on
home
video and DVD." The trailer looks great. However, that video came out
over a year ago.
Some children asked me about the movie of "A Wrinkle in Time" a couple
of months ago. They thought it should be available, since it had been so
long since they'd seen the trailer - so I did a little research.
"A Wrinkle in Time" was originally scheduled to air on "The
Wonderful
World of Disney" as a four-hour miniseries in February 2002 - then it
was pushed back to September (they re-shot some scenes in June) - then
to November - but it obviously wasn't shown this month, either.
There seems to be some confusion about whether it's going to be on ABC
(Wonderful World of Disney), the Disney Channel, or The Family Channel
(which is where the movie of "A Ring of Endless Light" aired).
However,
"A Wrinkle in Time" doesn't seem to be on any of these channels' air
schedules for November, December, or January.
I guess we'll just have to wait!
--
Becky Ann Smith
Youth Services Librarian
Logan Library, Logan, UT
bsmith@loganutah.org
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us
Debbie Leopold wrote:
>
> First, thank you to those who responded to my inquiry about a winter break
> book club meeting.
> Second, I want to apologize for getting a few folks excited about a
Wrinkle
> in Time movie. I inadvertently wrote Wrinkle in Time when I meant to write
> Neverending Story. However, when I went on the Internet to double check
> myself I did find something interesting. There seems to be a buzz about a
> Disney version supposedly coming out soon as a four part mini-series on
ABC.
> Report seems fuzzy though. Check out Madeline L'Engle's website:
> http://www.madeleinelengle.com/news/
> (I couldn't find anything on ABC's website nor Disney's.)
>
> Debora Leopold
> Lincoln Public Library
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From: cora ciampi <talescj@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Storytime expulsion???
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:10:38 CST
Have you tried letting this wild-child hold the story
book? Or turn the pages? Or be door monitor? Or
something to make him be "it". You might make him a
great reader yet, good luck. cjc
--- Brooke Roothaan <brooker@lincolnwoodlibrary.org>
wrote:
> I have had a certain child whose mother brings him
> to storytime and he either runs in circles all
> around the room as I read or he talks out or his
> mother keeps saying audibly listen to the story
> audibly over and over. I have talked with her and
> she insists on bringing her child who is over four
> and can't sit or focus to the storytimes. It is one
> big frustration!! It distracts all the other kids
> and I've all but told her don't come, but she just
> doesn't get it.
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From: "Wiest, Terri" <twiest@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>,
Subject: Icebreakers
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Hi all,
I know we've just had this discussion recently and I have a fairly good
collection of icebreakers, but I was hoping there might be a few more gems
out there among you YA librarians. I'm have my December Young Adult
Advisory Council meeting and I'm hoping to do a few icebreakers just for
some fun and to get some of the newer kids this session participating.
What I'm really lookiing for are icebreakers that have a more 'fun' slant,
almost like a game. Also, the kids are mostly in high school so it doesn't
have to be too simple either. These are pretty bright kids, if I do say so
myself! :) Although simple does make it easier for me, so I'll gladly take
those too.
You can reply to me either off or on list and I'll compile all the answers
in a few days and post them to the lists. Thanks so much and sorry for the
cross-posting.
Terri Wiest
Young Adult Librarian
Newport Beach Public Library
Newport Beach, CA
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From: "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Barbie--Librarian
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How about a Conan the Librarian Action Figure?
RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library
655 Main ST
Coshocton, OH 43812
740-622-0956
honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us
101+ Teen Programs That Work
http://www.neal-schuman.com/db/6/296.html
See YA Around: a Web site for librarians who work with teens
http://www.cplrmh.com
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From: <sdgriner@iupui.edu>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: Barbie--Librarian
> I think that Mattel should have a "Ken Librarian" for the
minority of
> males out there.
>
> How do I get Mattel to do that?
>
> Stu Griner
> Warsaw Community Public Library
>
>
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From: hunzigel@hhpl.on.ca (Lisa
Hunziger)
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - Sleigh Ride
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Hello. I have a patron looking for a picture book with rhyming text,
that is about a girl and her father on a horse-drawn sleigh ride. The
little girl falls asleep during the ride. That's really all the patron
remembers, other than it was a nice story. I'm not sure if it's a
Christmas story. If you have any ideas, could you email me off list?
Thanks so much.
Lisa Hunziger
Halton Hills Public Libraries
Children's Services
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From: Karin Grossmann <karingrossmann@monarch.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: yet more librarian image babble
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:11:21 CST
Hi,
Has anyone seen the new Star Wars movie out on video (the attack of the
clones, it think)? Picture this-it is the year when space travel is
common and cars fly.. the main character needs some information so he
visits the library...the interior of the building is sleek polished
metal and the shelves house immaculate identical volumes...he sits at
an information station and can't find the what he is looking for... the
librarian comes over to offer help... she is wearing a matronly gown and
her long silver hair (for she is about 70) is in a bun with two chop
sticks through it...she informs him in a soft gentle kindly voice ..."if
the information is not in the library then it simply doesn't exist".
Let's face it the image is stuck...why not embrace it and have fun
with...how about national librarian day where all librarians wear shawls
and buns and glasses on the end of thier noses (and head for the local
pub afterwards)?
Karin Grossmann
karen maletz wrote:
>I have to put my 2 cents in on this "image"
>discussion. The stereotype is still alive in adult
>fiction. I recently finished Lisa Gardner's "Third
>Victim". Although I enjoyed the book, I was very
>annoyed when she described the murder suspect's
>parents as the -------- father (don't remember the
>adjectives) and his "meek librarian wife". I was so
>upset that I wrote to the author & received an apology
>from her by return mail.
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From: "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: CopyCat ending?
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:56:15 CST
What??? Where did you hear that?
Andrea Johnson
Cook Memorial Public Library
Libertyville, IL
ajohnson@cooklib.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olivia Spicer [SMTP:ospicer@loudoun.gov]
> I think that Copy Cat is also ending.
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From: "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: older CD-ROM games
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Would someone refresh my memory please? I recall a discussion recently
about older CD-ROM games not working in newer PC's. Is that true? We have
many CD's for games like Arthur's Teacher Trouble, Where in the World is
Carmen Sandiego, and Oregon Trail. These were purchased about 5 years ago
for computers with Windows 95. One of the computers has "died"
and we
thought we would get a new computer for the games, but . . . if the games
aren't going to work . . . Does anyone have any experience with this or
remember the posts regarding this issue. Thank you.
Cathy Chesher
Youth Services Librarian
Adrian Public Library
143 E. Maumee St.
Adrian, MI 49221
517-265-2265
cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us
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From: "Christine Montgomery" <christine.montgomery@lpl.london.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: songs / rhymes for sticks
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:07:25 CST
Hi,
Does anyone know of any rhymes specifically for sticks? I just had a =
bunch given to me and I am eager to use them.
I know:
One, one, one, tap on my thumb, thumb, thumb.
Two, two, two, tap on my shoe, shoe, shoe.
Three, three, three, tap on my knee, knee, knee,
Four, four, four tap on the floor, floor, floor.
Five, five, five, let's do the jive, jive, jive,
Six, six, six, throw down my sticks!
That's the only one I know.
Thanks,
Christine Montgomery
Byron Branch Library
1295 Commissioners Rd. West
London, ON N6K 1C9
(519) 471-4000
Christine.Montgomery@lpl.london.on.ca
"In early days, I tried not to give librarians=20
any trouble, which was where I made my=20
primary mistake. Librarians like to be given trouble;
they exist for it, they are geared to it. For the location=20
of a mislaid volume, an uncatalogued item, your good librarian=20
has a ferret's nose. Give her a scent and she jumps the leash,=20
her eye bright with battle."=20
Catherine Drinker Bowen
(1897-1973)
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From: Charli Osborne <Cosborne@oxford.lib.mi.us>
To: "'Michlib-L (E-mail)'" <michlib-L@mlc.lib.mi.us>,
Subject: Young Adult/Teen Space ???? (long)
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:07:33 CST
Please excuse cross-posting.
Thank you for all of your responses! I was thrilled to get nearly thirty
responses from as far away as New Zealand (I'm in Michigan). I'm extremely
jealous of some of you. This seems to be an issue near and dear to many of
our hearts.
Here are some generalities (not all libraries answered all of the
questions):
1. Do you have a separate space for your YA/Teen collection?
Overwhelmingly yes. 26 of the libraries who responded have at least
a few shelves for teens.
2. How much square footage does it have?
Twelve libraries have between 150 and 500 square feet. Four
libraries have over 500 square feet, with three over 1,300. Four
libraries reported having just a few shelves and/or a small corner of
the adult department.
3. What is your service population?
Some libraries reported teen population; most reported complete
service population, ranging from 1,500 to 160,000.
4. How many staff do you have for YA/Teen services? Full time?
Six libraries reported having a full time YA/Teen services
librarian. One of those reported having 2, plus a library assistant.
(green with jealousy) Most libraries responding (17) have a full time
person who does YA part of the time.
Part time?
Only two libraries reported having a part time person who does
YA/Teen services exclusively. Nine libraries have at least one part
time person that does YA/Teen services in addition to other duties.
5. How many items are in your collection?
Ranges from a low of ~420 to a high of ~8,000. Most libraries (11)
have between 1,500 and 6,000 items.
6. What types of items are in your collection?
Fiction?
All responding libraries who answered the question (26) reported
having fiction.
Non-fiction?
20 libraries reported having at least some non-fiction. Three others
reported having non-fiction, but that it was shelved elsewhere (adult or
juvenile).
Magazines?
21 libraries reported having magazines. Three others have magazines
shelved elsewhere.
Audio books?
18 libraries reported having audio books. Two others have audio
books shelved elsewhere.
Music?
8 libraries reported having music. Nine others have music shelved
with the adult collection.
Graphic Novels?
24 libraries reported having at least a few graphic novels.
Comics?
4 libraries reported having comics.
Anything else?
5 libraries reported having videos, three who shelve them with the
adult collection. Two libraries have DVDS, again, shelved with the
adult collections. Two libraries mention Cliff Notes, two mention
reference, one library a homework collection, one library biographies, one
library CD-ROMs, and one college prep. One library (again, green with
envy) reports having 8 internet terminals, six PCs, 1 iMac and 4
OPACs.
7. What's your circulation for your YA/Teen collection?
Some libraries gave their circulation in percentages, some in items;
some monthly, some yearly. Percentage wise, libraries report that
their YA/Teen collections account for between 2 and 5 percent of total
circulation. Item wise, libraries report between 200 and 1,800 items
monthly); between 1,750 and 3,500 items (yearly).
I've compiled the complete answers into an Excel spreadsheet, but
don't want to post an attachment to the list. If you would like me
to forward you a copy, email me privately and I'll be happy to do so.
Thanks again! I'm really hoping it helps when I present all this data to my
director and board. :-)
Charli
Charli Osborne
Coordinator of Young Adult Services
Oxford Public Library
(248) 628-3034
(248) 969-9492 fax
cosborne@oxford.lib.mi.us
"You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing
wild animals as librarians." - Monty Python
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From: "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Rainforest
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:07:48 CST
Hi everyone,
I am going to do a Storytime session on the Rainforest for kindergarten =
children. Does anyone have a good story I can tell. Tks in advance
Patricia pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca
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From: lcole <lcole@du.edu>
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Subject: Main Library Service
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Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:07:58 CST
I'd like to find out how library districts make use of their Main Library in
children's service. Does the Main Library provide any special services
relating to children's service to the branches? Does the Main Library
provide
any different or special services to the public?
Please send me an email to let me know how your library district uses the
Main
Library in children's service.
Thanks,
Lisa Cole
Arapahoe Library District
Centennial Colorado
lcole@ald.lib.co.us
or
lcole@du.edu
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