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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 989
PUBYAC Digest 989
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Magic School Bus
by Jennifer Parker <jmpwel@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Silver Birch
by Janis Marshall <janis.marshall@mpl.on.ca>
3) RE: let's keep Political Opinions
by Peggy Odom <podom@ci.waco.tx.us>
4) RE: A satire of the Political Opinions commentary
by Anne Fescharek <annfes@yahoo.com>
5) Re: youth advisory board
by Alex Bender <ab44111@yahoo.com>
6) Re: Political opinions
by Anne Fescharek <annfes@yahoo.com>
7) RE: Political Opinions
by "Paul Axford" <p_axford@hotmail.com>
8) Harry Potter programs
by "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>
9) STUMPER: cowboy adopts Indian kids abandoned at forts
by Lu Benke <lubenke@julip.fcgov.com>
10) Re: Political Opinions/Jokes`
by Kim Heikkinen <catlover@netwrx1.com>
11) Free Speech
by Edward Goldberg <mg48tcgrn@yahoo.com>
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From: Jennifer Parker <jmpwel@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Magic School Bus
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:13:42 CST
A number of people e-mailed me asking for the web address of The Magic
School Bus
Here it is http://www.scholastic.com/magicschoolbus/home.htm
Sorry about omitting it before,
Jennifer Parker
jmpwel@yahoo.com
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From: Janis Marshall <janis.marshall@mpl.on.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Silver Birch
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Hi,
Since more and more schools are getting in on the action I find that fewer
students register with the library. We still, however, label the books and
keep them at the Information Desk until voting day and participating
students whether they register at school or at the library really
appreciate being able to quickly find the books. I don't really care
anymore where they register, I am happy to support their enthusiasm by
making the titles readily available.
Janis Marshall
Milton Public Library
Milton, Ontario, Canada
At 01:53 PM 1/18/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Do any of you continue with the program Silver Birch or Red Maple. I
>find that we have such a small turn out for it and that it costs so much
>that it really is not cost efficient. But there are some that are dyed
>in the wool for it.I would appreciate your insight and opinions.
>Tara
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From: Peggy Odom <podom@ci.waco.tx.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: let's keep Political Opinions
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:13:59 CST
Let us discuss issues and not people.
Peggy Odom, M.L.S.
Reference Librarian
Waco-McLennan County Library System
1717 Austin Avenue
Waco, TX 76701
254/750-5957
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOGART Debra [SMTP:dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us]
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:46 PM
> To: csargent@loudoun.gov; pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: let's keep Political Opinions
>
> 1-As librarians we make it our goal to provide both sides of everything,
> whether we agree with it or not. Are we unable to translate that standard
> into
> our personal lives? I'm an adult, you can insult Hillary or Bill or Joe
> Lieberman or anyone you want, and I'm not hurt or offended. I will never
> intentionally try to insult those whose views are different from mine,
> however, I would expect and appreciate a certain openness and maturity in
> adults I deal with, especially well-educated librarians.
> 2-Our jobs are affected daily by whatever administration is in office.
> Budget
> cuts, new privacy policies, national literacy projects, we are impacted by
> all
> of these. I don't think it's unreasonable to be able to address these
> matters
> from the basis of our own beliefs on a professional listserv!
> 3-Our daily personal lives are also affected by politics. The fact that a
> draft may be reinstated at any minute and could endanger my nineteen year
> old
> son has added another level of stress to my daily life.
> The combination of these factors could at times leak out and be expressed
> in
> my emails to Pubyac. Maybe, like Cassie's, it will take a humourous tone.
>
> I guess I'm just basically disappointed that this group is so intolerant.
> Have
> you all forgotten the Monica comments that were made when she was news
> here?
> Surely they weren't coming from Democrats! But I don't remember anyone
> then
> placing a moratorium on political comments...
>
> Okay, that was my 3 cents. These views are only my own.
> Debra Bogart
> Registered Independent Voter
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From: Anne Fescharek <annfes@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: A satire of the Political Opinions commentary
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:14:06 CST
How insensitive!! You left out "Greta of the Green
Party" and "Lillian the Libertarian". Two-party
fascism strikes again!! I'm offended!
(DISCLAIMER: The above comment is intended as a joke.)
--- Alisa McKay <AMcKay@sno-isle.org>
wrote:
> Perhaps we should suggest to Mattel that they
> develop two new friends for
> Barbie: Debbie the Democrat Barbie and Rachel the
> Republican Barbie. They
> could set up a pay-per-view-online-debate for those
> of us with unfiltered
> access to the Internet and extra time on our hands!
> The new Barbies could
> then surprise us all by saying "Why can't we all
> just get along" whilst
> walking back to the stacks, in a friendly and
> professional manner, to help a
> library patron find a book about "whirled peas."
>
> -This opinion is my own, and, just a bit sarcastic!
> By the way, I, of
> course, would never dream of having a political
> opinion during the work day.
>
> -A. McKay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Connie Sargent [mailto:csargent@loudoun.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:33 PM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: RE: Political Opinions
>
>
>
> Amen sister. I thought we used up all our excess
> energy on Barbie.
> Connie Sargen
>
> Constance Sargent
> Library Assistant
> Loudoun County Public Library
> Rust Library
> 380 Old Waterford Road
> Leesburg, VA 20176.
> (703)771-5624
> csargent@loudoun.gov
>
> t
> >>> NLiederbach@imcpl.lib.in.us
01/15/03 07:58PM >>>
> I knew you meant no harm. And I do not think you
> were rude or
> unprofessional. People should lighten up a bit.
>
> Nora Lee Liederbach
> Indianapolis-Marion County Public Library
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cassie Wilson [mailto:cwilson2@woh.rr.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:33 PM
> To: Jo Hick; PUBYAC
> Subject: Re: Political Opinions
>
>
> Jo-
> I apologize. I meant them as a joke and just
> forgot, once again, that
> people don't know and cannot see my expressions. I
> just thought it was so
> absurdly unrelated that it would be obvious. I meant
> no harm.
>
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Anne Fescharek (and Dewey)
Children's Librarian/ Assistant Director
Millbury Public Library
Millbury, MA 01528
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From: Alex Bender <ab44111@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: youth advisory board
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:14:16 CST
I mail an agenda for the meeting to all my board
members. On the agenda I include whatever topics I
would like to discuss. I ask for input as well as
offering a range of program ideas, possible services,
etc. that we at the library can offer to the young
adult customers who use our library. The agenda is
in outline form and is no longer than one page. I
find sticking to this plan and making sure that all of
my teen advisory board members has a copy helps our
meetings run smoothly. Hope this helps.
Truly yours,
Alex
--- Carol Barcus <barcusca@oplin.lib.oh.us>
wrote:
> Ideas, please? All you pros out there....
>
> Anyone with experience with youth advisory boards?
> We are having our first meeting at the beginning of
> Feb, and I would like
> to be organized. The group is small (5).
> Specifically, I would like to
> know
> what other boards have done.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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>
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> Carol Barcus
> Huron Public Library
> 333 Williams Street
> Huron, OH 44839
> tel (419)433-5009
> fax (419)433-7228
>
> email: barcusca@oplin.lib.oh.us
>
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From: Anne Fescharek <annfes@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Political opinions
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:14:24 CST
Here, here, Mr. Quiring!
It's pathetic to be so threatened by another persons'
jokes, opinions or writings that one has to resort to
chastising another with words like "rude" or
"unprofessional". If you find something offensive,
click delete!
--- Richard Quiring <richard_quiring@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Fellow International Pubyacers,
> I've been following the political opinions for a few
> days now. This is
> really a rather interesting cultural ideal. Being a
> Canadian, we tend to
> mock any political party (or politician for that
> matter). It's our form of
> national amusement. We would be amiss not to poke
> fun at the government. I
> do suppose that's what some countries call "freedom
> of speech." Obviously
> some locations take these kinds of comments more
> seriously than we do.
>
> But related to all this. Do these values, beliefs,
> (opinions?) similarly
> effect how different countries or regions view
> censorship? Are some amused
> by certain books, while others don't want them on
> their shelves? Are our
> beliefs threatened if someone doesn't believe the
> same way we do? Now tell
> me: am I being derisive or sincere? Does anyone
> really care?
>
> Richard Quiring
> British Columbia, Canada
>
> =================================
> >I think it's called a JOKE. And the last time I
> looked jokes and political
> >opinions were allowed in this country.
> ============
> > > Just a suggestion that when submitting a comment
> on > PUBYAC, keep your
> >political opinions to yourself. > Not > everyone in
> the library world is a
> >Democrat. Your > comments were rude and
> unprofessional.
> =========================
> > > > I guess they > > knew ahead about the
> Republican thing.
>
>
>
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Anne Fescharek (and Dewey)
Children's Librarian/ Assistant Director
Millbury Public Library
Millbury, MA 01528
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From: "Paul Axford" <p_axford@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Political Opinions
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:14:42 CST
Hi folks,
Dawn wrote:
>I have this recurring vision of "W" sitting on a nuclear warhead,
>stroking it lovingly, and saying, "My Precious..."
>
>Dawn Sardes
>Teen Services Librarian
>Euclid Public Library
>Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org
>216-261-5300, ext. 138
My recurring vision is of Dubbya riding a big fat nuke down from a bomber,
just like the penultimate scene in Dr. Strangelove...
But on a more serious note - political opinions are all fine and dandy for
those to whom they make sense. By that, I mean a discussion of Democrat vs.
Republican is relatively meaningless to those of us who are not American.
How many of you in the USA would pay any attention or care very much about a
political discussion concerning Jean Chretien and Joe Clark? Or be terribly
concerned with Sheila Copps's latest faux pas? (Or a discussion of the
relative merits of the Tories vs. Labour for that matter?) Politics and
political opionions are purely situational, are they not? Unless, of course
one is discussing the broader politics inherent in the human condition?
And, of course, there's always the DELETE button! The ultimate in either
free speech or blissful ignorance...
--Paul Axford (opinions entirely mine own)
Ontario, Canada
"Librarians are the secret masters of the universe. They control
information. Don't ever piss one off." -- Spider Robinson
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From: "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Harry Potter programs
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I'm new to this listserv. Now that #5 is announced, is there any kind of
HP
program idea compilation out there? We've done a couple other events and
it
would be nice to have some fresh ideas.
Incidently, a cheap, easy and impressive HP craft is to use chopsticks
(sprayed gold or silver if you are feeling ambitious, but plain wood works
fine too), and attach feathers and/or those squashed marbles used for flower
arranging (available at craft stores) with a dab of hot glue. Kids can
attach thin ribbons as well if they wish. The result is a quite lovely
magic wand!
Carol and Gary Levin
144 Smoke Rise Road
Bedminster NJ 07921
908 781 6041
Enjoy Life! This is not a Dress Rehearsal!
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From: Lu Benke <lubenke@julip.fcgov.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER: cowboy adopts Indian kids abandoned at forts
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:14:58 CST
A customer remembers reading a "new" chapter book about 10 years ago
that
was about a "John Wayne" type guy who went from fort to fort gathering
up
abandoned (Indian?) children. She described the book as "lightweight"
and
said it would make a good movie with Maureen O'Hara as the lady character
in the book.
Can you help?
Lu Benke email: lubenke@julip.fcgov.com
Lead Librarian phone: 970.221.6678
Children's Services fax: 970.221.6398
Fort Collins Public Library
201 Peterson
Fort Collins, CO 80524
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From: Kim Heikkinen <catlover@netwrx1.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Political Opinions/Jokes`
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:15:07 CST
Just adding my two cents:
This is a moderated list, and if Shannon lets a post go through, then it's
up to YOU to hit "delete", or skip over, or whatever. I'm personally
HAPPY
as all get out she is letting us discuss this topic freely--in the spirit
of public libraries! Political associations aside, I think we can all agree
these are dark days for our country--not one of us is happy about war,
whether we feel it is justified or not, methinks. Thus, joking around is a
mood lightener--to me at least, and I personally have found ALL the jokes
amusing.
That said, I am the ORIGINAL, card-carrying, bleeding-heart, Gore-voting
liberal, and when I originally read Al's statement about inventing the
internet, I roared with laughter! :) :) I try not to take myself too
seriously, difficult though it is sometimes! :)
Let's try to lighten up, ALL of us, no matter what brand of politics you
hold dear...
Kim
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Kim Heikkinen catlover@netwrx1.com
"I may not be an explorer, or an adventurer, or a treasure seeker, or a
gunfighter...but I am proud of what I am...I AM A LIBRARIAN!!!"--The Mummy
"Dubya: Out the Door In 2004" http://www.fight4choice.com
It's hard to be angry when a cat is sitting in your lap...
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From: Edward Goldberg <mg48tcgrn@yahoo.com>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Free Speech
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:15:14 CST
I would personally like to thank those people who made
intelligent, articulate and impassioned statements
supporting free speech in any forum. Political satire
and critique has been around long before we were and
will be here long after we are gone, I hope. The
point made by our Canadian friend about what topics
are and are not suitable on this listserv is valid.
If my opinion about a book differs from someone
else's, am I not allowed to say it, lest I hurt
his/her feelings?
I assume that no one on this listserv would make
inflammatory remarks on subjects of race, sex,
religion, etc. (remarks that are slanderous or would
incite riot or are just downright mean). I would
hope, on the other hand, that we would not have to
watch every word we write for fear of offending our
brethren.
If we, as a profession, cannot tolerate free speech
amongst our own, what hope is there for free speech
worldwide?
So, I conclude with, let's make sure this listserv
remains a source of valuable information to those who
use it, but, if we diverge onto other topics, so be
it. That's what makes this listserv the interesting
place it is.
Thanks for your patience.
Ed Goldberg
mg48tcgrn@yahoo.com
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