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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:52 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1001


    PUBYAC Digest 1001

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) (no subject)
by "Anita Palladino" <apalladi@ansernet.rcls.org>
  2) Re: Library Theme Song
by "Dorothy Williams" <Dorothy@peabody.whitleynet.org>
  3) Solano County Mock Awards Results
by Piper Nyman <pnyman@soar.snap.lib.ca.us>
  4) Re: Disney storytime/party
by Nadine <read2kdz@yahoo.com>
  5) Re: Redwall Club
by Susan259@aol.com
  6) Re: Harry Potter placement
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
  7) Re: On Day You Were Born
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
  8) Summary of Preschool Program Questions (l-o-n-g)
by Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
  9) RE: hot topics
by "Nicole Morgan" <listmessages@sbcglobal.net>
 10) Nursery Rhyme/Fingerplays websites
by "Bassey Irele" <BIRELE@cml.lib.oh.us>
 11) declining storytime numbers
by spardi@nplhub.org (Sarah Pardi)
 12) RE: On Day You Were Born
by "_shellbells@excite.com" <_shellbells@excite.com>
 13) Children's Furniture (& Fun Stuff) in the Library
by Lisa Coker <lcoker@hpl.lib.tx.us>

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From: "Anita Palladino" <apalladi@ansernet.rcls.org>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:35:18 CST

who served on the committee? I cannot believe that "Marian" lost out to
"Rabbit." Sorry, but this is pathetic.

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From: "Susan Dailey" <obldailey@wellscolibrary.org>
Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:42:26 CST

>Dear Yackers,
>
>The results of the Wells County (Indiana) Public Library's two Mock
>Caldecotts are...
>
>Thursday
>
>Winner: Dear Mrs. LaRue by Mark Teague
>Honors: When Marian Sang by Pam Munoz Ryan, illustrated by Brian Selznick
>        Spider and the Fly by Mary Howitt, illustrated by Tony DiTerlizzi
>
>Friday
>
>Winner: When Marian Sang by Pam Munoz Ryan, illustrated by Brian Selznick
>Honors: It's Snowing by Olivier Dunrea
>        Sea Chest by Toni Buzzeo, illustrated by Mary GrandPre
>        Spider and the Fly by Mary Howitt, illustrated by Tony DiTerlizzi
>
>Anxiously awaiting Monday's announcement,
>
>Susan Dailey, librarian, speaker and author of "A Storytime Year"
>Ossian Branch Library
>Ossian, IN
>obldailey@wellscolibrary.org
>
>---
>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
>
>

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From: "Dorothy Williams" <Dorothy@peabody.whitleynet.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Library Theme Song
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:35:25 CST

How about during Winter or Spring break---Who Let the Dogs Out

>>> nancy@nancykeane.com 01/28/03 11:11AM >>>
And, of course, by the end of the day "We got to get out of this place" by
the Animals!

At 07:31 PM 1/23/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>The patrons come in singing, "Help!" (Beatles)
>
>The reference staff sings, "Searchin'" (Coasters)
>[Cause I've been searching, oh yeah, searching/My
>goodness, searching every which a-way. Yeah.]
>
>And to the PUBYAC-ers I have to sing, "I Get By With A
>Little Help from My Friends!" (Joe Cocker/Beatles)
>
>:) Larissa

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Nancy J. Keane   nancy@nancykeane.com=20
Author of "Giles' Journey" (2000) ;"Booktalks and Beyond" (Highsmith, =
2001)
"Booktalking Across the Curriculum" (Libraries Unlimited, 2002) ;"Teaching
... Through Literature" (Linworth, 2002)
Rundlett Middle School 144 South Street  Concord, New Hampshire 03301
Recipient 2002 N.H.Excellence in  Education Award (EDies)
Recipient 2001 N.H.Educational Media Association Service Award
Host: Kids Book Beat television show
Booktalks Page  http://www.nancykeane.com/booktalks=20
++++++Do the best you can and maintain a sense of humor++++++

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From: Piper Nyman <pnyman@soar.snap.lib.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Solano County Mock Awards Results
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:35:33 CST

Hello Folks -

Although it seems a bit odd to post this now that the "real" award winners
have been announced, we thought we would go ahead put our results out there
in case anyone is interested.

On Thursday, January 16th, the Solano County Library hosted a Mock Newbery
and Caldecott discussion.  Eighteen adults including Children's and YA
Librarians from throughout Solano County, along with Literacy Specialists
and local school librarians, selected the following titles:

Newbery: Things Not Seen, Andrew Clements
Honor: This Land was Made for You and Me: the Life and Songs of Woody
Guthrie, Elizabeth Partridge
Before We Were Free, Julia Alvarez
Hush, Jacqueline Woodson

Caldecott: Eppossumondas, Colleen Salley illustrated by Janet Stevens
Honor: Oliver Finds His Way, Phyllis Root illustrated by Christopher Denise
My Chinatown: One Year in Poems, Kam Mak
Duck on a Bike, David Shannon

Not even close!  However, we did have a lot of fun!

Piper Nyman
Fairfield-Suisun Community Library
1150 Kentucky Street
Fairfield, CA 94533
(707) 421-6503
pnyman@snap.lib.ca.us

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From: Nadine <read2kdz@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Disney storytime/party
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:50:50 CST


hi...thanks again...i have left several messages at the corporate legal dept
of disney...still waiting for someone to get back to me...but the pins could
be an interesting idea...!

Nadine


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                              Nadine Lipman
                       Head of Children's Services
                         Waterford Public Library
                           49 Rope Ferry Rd.
                          Waterford, CT 06385
                     email: read2kdz@yahoo.com

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From: Susan259@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Redwall Club
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:50:59 CST

Have you visited this website?

www.redwall.org

There area ll kinds of activities and games and puzzles and recipes and
more--so much that it can be a bit overwhleming!

Susan Smith

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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter placement
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:51:05 CST

We have a set of Canadian editions...does that count? <G>.  Kim


>>> BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us 01/28/03 12:50 PM >>>
We also have the Spanish, as well as German. Anyone circulating the =
British versions???=20

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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: On Day You Were Born
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:51:14 CST

Kim E. Dolce
Children's Librarian
Port Orange Regional Library
Port Orange, FL  32129
kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us
>>> marg1@chutch.net 01/28/03 12:07 PM >>>
Dear Pubyacers-
      I know a long time ago this was asked. I have a cub scout pack =
coming and they need to know the headlines on the day they were born. Is =
there any website that could be used for this?

You can try http://www.historychannel.com/tdih/ On the left side of the =
page, you will see a box that says "what happened on your birthday?" The =
catch is that you can only plug in the month and date, so you have to look =
at it to see if anything happened in the birth *year*.

=20
   =20

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From: Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Summary of Preschool Program Questions (l-o-n-g)
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:51:23 CST

Hello Group,

Not long ago I was looking for input on planning a
preschool program for 3-5 year-olds.  What follows is
a composite of the many responses I received.  This
has been very helpful to me as I undertake this
project. Thanks to all of you who responded with
answers and advice.

Lorraine Getty
Forsyth Public Library
Forsyth IL

These were my questions:
1. What is a good number of children participants for
   a 3-5 year old story-time?  What works for you?

2. Do you require parents to remain with children of
   this age?

3. Do you allow younger siblings to attend under any
   circumstances?


1. WHAT IS A GOOD NUMBER OF CHILDREN PARTICIPANTS FOR
A 3-5 YEAR OLD STORYTIME?  WHAT WORKS FOR YOU?
   
   12-18 is my favorite group size.
--------------------  
   12 to 30. That includes parents and children. Of
course we have
   had as few as two and as many as 100 (in the
summer)
---------------
   I don't like to have more than 15-18 children in a
group, because we also do a craft and it just gets too
crazy.
---------------
   The limit is 20 children
-----------------
   At our library, we offer three preschool storytimes
per week. They are held for 45 minutes each. We offer
them on Tuesday morning, from 10:00-10:45, and Tuesday
afternoon, from 1:00-1:45, and again on Wednesday
morning, from 10:00-10:45. We do stories,  games,
songs, fingerplays, flannelboards, and show a
filmstrip or video. We also give out a cookie at the
end. Our program is a drop-in storytime and I can get
anywhere from 1 to 40 kids, depending on weather, if
there is a day off from school, summer reading club,
etc. On average, I would say I would get about 10-15
kids. This is a  good independent learning experience
for this age group, especially for those who are not
yet attending preschool. It is good for those children
who need structured play and who enjoy listening to
stories. It also helps them to develop motor skills
and cognitive skills.
 
   When I worked in Massachusetts, I did
preregistration for  preschoolers, and I think I
limited to 20 kids per group. I would say that 15 is a
good size, because it isn't too small and it isn't too
big. It is a big enough group that you can get good
participation, and you get a variety of kids.
Sometimes it is easier to read in front of a larger
group than a smaller group, just because you get more
feedback from more kids. Sometimes it can be
 wild if you get 30 kids in here. Small, intimate
groups can be nice too, as the kids get more
individual attention. I think I prefer to have at
least 10 kids, just because it makes the story hour go
more smoothly.
-----------------------
   We used to register 25 kids in our "heyday."  Now,
we're lucky to get 10. I'd like to have about 15-20.
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    My preschool storytimes (3-5 year olds) typically
have 20-25 participants.  I think that I could  handle
more but my room is too small.
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   --more than 10, less than 50. Ideally about 25
-----------------------
   I think that 10-15 is an optimum # for this age
group.
--------------------------------
  I think it depends on the group of children, but
I've found that 25 is the max number   than I want at
one time.  Fifteen to twenty is probably my ideal
number with most groups.
------------------
  We sign up between 15-20, this is more a function of
low numbers in this age group due to conflicts with
preschool and Kindergarten schedules.  Actually the
conflicts between Kindergarten schedules and  staff
schedules are the biggest problem with drawing a crowd
for this age group.
 ---------------------------------
  I like to have around 20 kids.  More than that, it
gets chaotic.  Fewer than that, there's not as much
audience participation.
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   I register 30 children but that may be too many if
they are all new  to the concept of storytime. When
the program has been running for years, you get 5 year
olds who are in their third year and really know how
to behave and model that behavior for the new kids. If
you are just starting out, you might want to start
with a smaller group.
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  30 registrants (22-25 show up)
-------------------------
  We do not have a limit.  As many can come as want
to, but the best story times are when about 20-30
come.
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  We register 40 children for ours, and usually get
20-28 who show up at one time.
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  I find that I can handle 25 - 30 3 to 5 year olds at
one story hour with no problem as long as there is an
adult (library aide or volunteer mother) in the room
to take care of any problems such as an emergency trip
to the bathroom.  I seldom have that many, however--I
count it as a big group if I have 12-15 kids.  I've
learned that registration doesn't matter for this age
group, so I don't do it--not knowing how many I'm
going to have doesn't matter (but we don't do crafts).
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  I don't take more than 20 kids. They all sign up
with
  good intentions, not everyone comes every week. I
  average 15-17 a week.
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  Right now, I don't have an attendance limit, because
I usually have between 10 and 15 children attending.
That is a good number to work with. I can handle more,
up to 30 is OK. I have presented story times for much
larger groups, for example, daycare groups whose
teachers want to bring everyone at one time. It
doesn't work nearly as well with 60 or 70, but in the
interests of "customer service" I do them. I do try to
explain to the daycare providers that storytimes with
very large groups are not the ideal experience, but I
think it goes in one ear & out the other. Oh, BTW, I
don't allow large daycare  groups to come to my
preschool storytime anyway, they have to come to the
scheduled daycare storytime, or schedule an alternate
time.
-----------------------------
We only have 12 children register per group, 2 groups
(due to space limitations) and are probably going to
have to add another in the near future due to the
demand.  They do have to preregister so that we know
how many project materials to prepare.
-----------------
   We currently provide storytimes for both 3-6
year-olds and 1-2 year- olds. For both storytimes, an
optimal number is no greater than 15  children,
although we allow up to 25 children (or children with
adult caregivers, in the case of the 1-2 year-old
storytimes) to register.  We confirm all registrations
by phone several days before storytime begins, to give
waiting list people a chance to fill in when
registered kids wind up not being able to attend.  Our
community LOVES storytime and our sections and waiting
lists fill up regularly.
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   The number of participants is somewhat determined
by space. Kids need room to move. We have a room that
can comfortably handle 15 kids.
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   We have two storytimes for this age group:
   Toddler Storytime for 2 and 3 year olds, and
   Preschool Storytime for 4 and 5 year olds.
   Both storytimes are held once a week,
   year-round, so patrons don't have to guess
   when storytime is happening.  They are both
   drop-in so no registration is required; we
   just leave the storytime door open so anyone
   can come in at any time during the storytime.
   Therefore the number of attendees is somewhat
   unpredictable!  I am strongly opposed to
   turning anyone away from a library program,
   so we are prepared to conduct a storytime for
   anywhere between 2 to 40 children.  It's a
   little harder when the group gets that large,
   but we almost always manage.  I believe that
   storytime is about welcoming children to the
   library, not limiting the number of attendees
   for my convenience.  (I might feel
   differently if 80 kids came, but I think then
   I would just offer twice as many storytimes
   to accommodate the crowd.)
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   We are a fairly new and small library trying to
build a patron base. Our preschool Storytimes
generally have 8-15 children.  I believe this is the
ideal size.  It is fun and quite manageable.


2. DO YOU REQUIRE PARENTS TO REMAIN WITH CHILDREN OF
THIS AGE?

   YES!
--------------------
   Parents are allowed to stay or browse in the
library as they wish.
-------------------------
   Yes, I require the parents to stay with the
children.
--------------- 
   Encourage, do not require. It's good for control
and for carry- through at home when the kid starts
singing your song.
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   Encourage but not require.  Most do though (at
least for 3's & 4's  -- 5's sometimes solo).
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   We do require that parents stay with the children.
Most children do better with their parent there, plus
the parent can remove the child if they have a
"meltdown".
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   No, for our 3-5 year old storytimes, we do not
require the parents to stay in the story hour room
with the children. This is an independent storytime,
and the children generally do better, if mom and dad
are not with them. If this is a child's first exposure
to  storytime, then we let the caregiver stay with the
child for the first two or three weeks, until the
child is more accustomed to the storyhour routine. The
parents generally stay out in the other room. We do
ask that they stay in the library building.  Another
reason for not having the parents in during preschool
storyhour, is that our story hour area is set up in
such a way, that
it can not accomodate too many people. We have a story
hour pit that is surrounded by three tiered steps that
are in a semi-circle. It would just be too crowded if
we let everybody in. We also don't do crafts that
often, because of space constraints.
   ---------------------
     No.  The parents can stay if they want to, but
only a couple do.
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  No, I don't want parents in my StoryTime.  If a
child is a bit scared, I tell the caregiver they can
come in once or twice, but not after that.
---------------------
  No, in fact we do not allow them.  Parents are
required to attend with the two-year-olds, but the
older children do better without parents.
---------------------------
  I try to encourage the child going to storytime
  without a parent. For the most part this is not a
  problem. If a child is misbehaving one week and I
talk
  to the parent sometimes it helps if they accompany
the
  child the next time. I've had a few cases where
  separation anxiety was an issue and so I've let the
  parent tag along.
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  Parents are asked to remain in the Children's room
but outside the story room which is built into the
children's room but without a door (a whine for
another day.)
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  We don't require it, but we strongly encourage it.
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  We encourage parents to remain in the main part of
the
  children's room unless their child is having a
  separation problem in which case they can sit w/them
  or in the back of the room. We do our storytimes in
  the"easy room" which isn't a separate room with a
  door, but an alcove off of the main room (this does
  have the disadvantage that children who aren't ready
  to sit for the whole time can wander out to the main
  room to their parents).
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  Moms can stay if they wish but I remind them to also
follow the good listener rules.
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  I require that the parents NOT stay with the kids. I
think you will find this is the norm, although there
is a lot of variation. We also offer Family Storytimes
for the whole family, all ages, but Pre-school
storytime is just for the kids.
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  Parents can come to the 3-5 year old story time, but
they do not have to.
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   Parents at my storytimes are required to stay in
the library but not in the actual storytime room (they
are welcome to remain if they wish but they have to
sit on the floor like everyone else). I know that some
libraries discourage the parent from staying in the
room during storytime but I think that modeling good
storytelling techniques is sometimes just as important
for the caregiver as it is for the child.
----------------------
  yes, mostly because we do not have a separate room
  that can be closed off. If we had a separate room I
  might reconsider this but only if I had staff who
  could help monitor the kids...as it is I'm the only
  person doing the program so if a child got fussy or
  upset I couldn't do much about it without stopping
the
  program.
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  Do not require parents to remain with their
children--most kids this age like being independent
for 45 minutes; however, I don't think we can ever
forbid parents from being in the room to check up on
their  child or just to see what I'm doing (I hand out
half sheets of paper listing the theme, books we've
read, a fingerplay or two that we've done, and any
other info I think parents might like, such as
extenders of the theme they can do at home, so those
who don't attend with their child are still in the
loop). Ever since we've allowed parents to attend (I
_do_ require that they sit with their child and
participate in the songs and fingerplays--no sitting
against the wall in the back of the room and
chatting!!), I haven't needed another staff member in
the room, and that helps stretch our staff
considerably; I almost always have at least one parent
in the room.
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  Yes, it works much better for me that way. The
parents help the children participate in the
fingerplays and songs, and help to keep them quiet if
they get restless.
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Parents do not remain in the room with the children
(occasionally one will if the child refuses to stay
alone).  We have stories, fingerplays, songs, etc. for
about 20-25 minutes, then the parents are invited in
to help with an easy craft project.
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   For 3-5 year-old storytimes, we require that the
children participate on their own, and ask parents &
adult caregivers to remain in the Youth Services
section of the library, the better to prevent an "I
can't find my mommy/nanny!"-style meltdown.
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   Adults are required to stay for the
   Toddler Storytime, but they can choose to
   leave the room during the Preschool Storytime
   if they choose.  I am pleased that nearly all
   adults stay.  While some libraries emphasize
   the independent nature of their child-only
   storytimes, personally I like having the
   adult present: that way they can learn about
   great books and successful read-aloud
   techniques
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  I have been doing story hours for preschoolers for a
number of years and have become much more flexible
over the years.  Earlier, parents did not stay and no
siblings were allowed.  Today many parents stay and
siblings are often included.  I think, depending on
your
 community, it is best to be flexible.  It is much
more fun for everyone to be happy and feel included.
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  We take the kids (with one mom volunteer!!) upstairs
to our 'meeting room' and proceed with the stories,
fingerplays, etc. then when that is done I call
downstairs and the parents - and sibs! - come up and
help with the craft.  The craft is a biggie around
here.  If we didn't do a craft the patrons would have
a fit! Hope this helps.


3. DO YOU ALLOW YOUNGER SIBLINGS TO ATTEND UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES?
     
   We always allow siblings. It is not our choice in
Toddler Time which is two year olds but for our
regular Storytime we think it's good.
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   We allow younger siblings, since many parents would
not be able to come without bringing their little
ones.  I don't find it to be a problem, since I don't
expect all children to sit quietly through the whole
storytime-in fact, we do a lot of creative  movement,
singing, and active participation in the story.
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   Siblings are encouraged to attend. Generally the
parents stay in the Storytime until a younger sibling
becomes less attentive or disruptive, then the parent
takes him/her out and chases him/her around the
library.  We do not have a separate program room but
hold our Storytimes in the open space by the picture
book  collection.  We are relaxed and supportive of
each parent and child's needs so the library is an
enjoyable family oriented place.

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  Yes, we do allow younger siblings to attend, as
sometimes are preschool story hour times are the only
ones that work out for the parents. We do let them
know that we have a toddler and a family storytime
available for the younger children, but the times
don't always work out for those families. As this is a
drop-in program as  well, we really can't kick the
younger kids out. If they are being too disruptive, we
will ask the parent to take them out. We are fortunate
in that we have a big enough staff in children's that
someone can do extra monitoring of  the kids, while
the storyteller
is reading. If there is a day off from school, we also
tend to get both older and younger siblings. They are
welcome to attend, but the stories are geared for the
3-5 year old set. Sometimes I go with the easier
stories if they are younger 3's and some 2's and if
there are more 5's that are all ready in kindergarten,
then I go with longer stories. It just depends on the
group. But, all are welcome.
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     Yes, but we only get 1 or 2.
  --------------
  We emphasize that this is for this age, but sibs do
show up.  I ask that if they are being distracting, we
will ask them to remove their child.  The proper aged
child is allowed to stay solo
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  We do allow younger (or older) siblings to attend,
but we make it clear to parents that if they become a
distraction the parent must take them out of the room.
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  We do not allow younger children to attend ever.
They are disruptive as they cannot sit still as long
and don't have the patience/understanding for some of
the picture books I use. This is unfair to the older
children. Twice a year I leave the door open so that
the parents can peek in and see what the kids are
doing. One of those times (when we have March Break
and kids are off school,)  I open Pre-school Storytime
to everyone and we do get a lot of siblings, but
mostly older ones who have graduated to "real" school.
They love to come back.
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    No, they stay out with the parents.  Older
siblings do come in with moms and 2's, though.
  -----------------------
Yes, I allow younger siblings to attend.  They usually
don't stay for the full 30 minutes,  but I think it's
good exposure for them.  I also don't want the older
sibling to lose out on an activity because of a
younger sibling.
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  Having 15 kids in storytime is enough. Long ago I
was
  flexible on the sibling rule. I came to regret it
and
  have become more strict. I explain at registration
  that this is the registrant's special time and
  siblings are not allowed in the storytime room. Its
  disruptive if the sibling is younger and not age
  appropriate for the program. I have also had
storytime
  graduates come back with their siblings and want to
  sit in for the first couple of stories. At first I
  found that flattering and tried to be accomodating,
  but it just becomes a distruption.  
  What helped me was being very clear about the rules
  and what is acceptable storytime behavior. We
created
  a brochure explaining the benefits of library
programs
  like preschool storytime as well as explaining the
  rules ie. Parents can not leave the building while
  story time is in session. Make sure your child goes
to
  the bathroom before storytime. I give out the
brochure
  at registration. It has helped me a lot. Patrons
know
  what to expect as well as what is expected of them.
-----------------------------
  Since we try to encourage the parents to separate,
we obviously discourage younger siblings from
attending. (They can join tiny tots, our 2-3-yr.-old
storytime where the caregiver hopefully participates
with the children). If it happens to be a day when
school's not in session, we'd be more inclined to have
an older
 sibling join the group than a younger one.
--------------------------
We allow any siblings or friends that the 3-5s bring
along.
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   I always allow younger siblings to attend as long
as the parent stays in the room as well and they are
not disruptive.  There are many children in my classes
who would not be able to come if their younger
siblings were not welcome.
---------------------
  yes, but only because I haven't found a way around
  it. It seems ridiculous to expect parents to arrange
  childcare for their younger children so they can
bring
  the older ones to programs. In a perfect world I'd
say
  no but until that happens we deal with it.
-----------------------
  I don't allow younger siblings in the room, unless
the parent is there.
-------------------
   I really don't have any choice. When a Mom comes to

  storytime with 3-year-old and 3-month-old in tow, I
can't tell her to leave the baby outside the story
room! And these Moms are not likely to hire a
babysitter to stay with baby while they bring
pre-schooler to storytime. Most of the time, we don't
have problems with the babies. Most of the time, they
just sleep through storytime. If a baby gets cranky,
the Mom usually either feeds it (which about 90% of
the time is what the baby wants) or rocks it, or even
takes it out of the room if necessary.
--------------------
   Younger siblings are not allowed in the storytime
but when the parents come in to help with projects,
the younger ones may come in at that time too.
--------------------
   We generally do not permit younger siblings to
attend, largely  because they are too young for the
storytime materials (viz., if they're under 3 they
aren't interested in a story with a linear plot, and
will make this displeasure known, loudly) and
activities (singing  & dancing around the room).  The
other reason is space: our  storytimes are generally
full to brimming, and if we allow one family to
include a younger sibling (even a very mature one), we
have to  allow every family to do the same, all the
time.  I find it's better for us to take a slightly
harder line, and suck up being unpopular with one
parent once in a while, in order to make the storytime
as fun as possible for the group of kids.
-------------------------------------
  Yes, I have allowed younger siblings to come in on
occasion, but I probably shouldn't.  Some 2 year-olds
can sit still for StoryTime,  but some can't, and I
should be consistent.
-------------------------------
  Yes, many can not come without the younger ones.
------------------------
  Younger siblings are asked to stay with the parent
  outside the story room, we have a small space with
some puzzles and a collapsible bus that the little
ones can play with near the picture books. The
presenter will try to have an extra coloring sheet or
crayons and paper for the little ones if there is a
craft so that they can make something but not get in
the way of the older kids.
-------------------------------
   Since we have an open-door policy during
 storytime, very often both younger and older
 siblings attend along with the child of the
 target age.  I encourage this because I don't
 want the family's lack of daycare to prevent
 their child from attending a library
 program.  As long as the adult does a good
 job of containing the other kids' boredom or
 restlessness, it's okay.  I find that very
 often younger kids rise to the occasion, and
 older kids still like to be read to!  If
 there is disruption, I deal with it on a
 case-by-base basis.
------------------------------
 I have a very flexible storytime program. I encourage
all ages to attend. Young siblings do not always stay
attentive and the moms will just take them out of the
auditorium. I don't like to restrict the ages because
I think it deters some families from attending and the

 children you are trying to reach are not able to
attend because the parents do not know what to do with
the babies or toddlers during storytime.





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From: "Nicole Morgan" <listmessages@sbcglobal.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: hot topics
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Let's see:
-Integrating technology into the existing, traditional library system
-The role of professional librarians vs paraprofessionals with professional
degrees in other fields (music, education, etc)
-Supporting children and people with disabilities
-Getting children to read in a world filled with tv's, internet, computers,
etc etc
-addressing the growing awareness of diversity in both programs and
collection development

Nicole Morgan
Lakewood Public Library
Lakewood OH


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In Northern California people are talking about:
Service to homeschoolers
Infant literacy - as programs such as Reach out and Read
Harry Potter and the Chrisitian right
non traditional outreach -finding those who will not come to the library
after school & homework help programs

Good luck!

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From: "Bassey Irele" <BIRELE@cml.lib.oh.us>
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Perhaps you're referring to the following sites posted by Linda sometime
ago.  Have fun!
--Bassey @ Columbus Metropolitan Library, Columbus, Ohio.

Here are some sites that I found were helpful in planning storytimes.

www.fastq.com/~jbpratt/education/theme/storythemebag.html
This site is developed by Barbara Pratt, a homeschool teacher.
Her ideas are arranged by theme and include games, puppets and
activities for extending certain books.

www.preschoolrainbow.org/preschool-rhymes.htm
This site offers action songs and fingerplays arranged by theme.

www.kididdles.com/mouseum/busy.html
Another site that offers many fingerplays and songs.  They are arranged
alphabetically by title.

I hope you find them useful.  Linda

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From: spardi@nplhub.org (Sarah Pardi)
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: declining storytime numbers
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:51:49 CST


hello pub-yaccers--
I have just started my winter/spring session of storytimes and there has
been a big drop in the number of participants in my toddler and preschool
classes. Since October, our children's room has been closed due to
construction and i think this may have scared some patrons away...
storytimes were temporarily cancelled, then moved to another building=20
alltogether and now are being held in another part of the main library
(stuck between some stacks). Besides the local newspapers, word of mouth =
and
publicity inside the library, I am wondering how else I might be able to
recruit some new faces and bring back those that may have travelled to ot=
her
libraries for storytime. I would hate to have to cancel the storytimes un=
til
the children's room opens again and it would be nice to have a good base =
of
participants for when it does open. If anyone has been in a similar
situation, I would love to hear how you dealt with it.


Sarah Pardi
Children's Librarian
Belleville Public Library
Belleville, NJ, 07109
spardi@nplhub.org

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Hi!
I use a website called DMaries timeline--It isn't just headlines but you can
accesss information on events of the day you were born such as: top movies,
music, food prices etc.  The web-site is www.dmarie.com/timecap/  I hope
this helps.

blessed be!

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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:40:08 CST
Subject: On Day You Were Born

Dear Pubyacers-
      I know a long time ago this was asked. I have a cub scout pack coming
and they need to know the headlines on the day they were born. Is there any
website that could be used for this?
     I have the local paper on microfilm but know there are more places we
could look for this info. TIA


                            Marguerite Hill
                            Pine Plains Free Library
                            pinelib@chutch.net



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From: Lisa Coker <lcoker@hpl.lib.tx.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Children's Furniture (& Fun Stuff) in the Library
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To celebrate our library's 40th birthday, the Friends group is giving us
10 - 15 thousand bucks to revamp the children's area.  In a previous
post, I asked if anyone had info about any great furniture they've seen,
especially anything from the Big Cozy Books furniture company.  I only
received one reply, but thought someone might find my digging useful.

One glowing recommendation from Nancy (see bottom of this post) was for
Big Cozy Books.  (Wow!!! She has a GOLD CADILLAC in her library.
Mildred Taylor grew up in Toledo, Ohio.  How cool is that?  Baytown's
only claim to fame is a big oak tree in the middle of Texas Avenue.)  If
you haven't heard of Big Cozy Books, check out some of there stuff at
www.bigcozybooks.com. It is by far the most original of all the library
furniture I've seen.

I'm also getting quotes from Texwood & Library Bureau for building two,
short wooden tables with colored laminate tops.  You have to go through
a representative, but if you request info from their sites, one will
call you.  (and call you and call you and call you and call you)

Gressco has really neat stuff, too.  I'm also considering a Rainbow
Bench and a Royalty Bench with a table.  They have lots of roller
coaster wires, beads, gears, mazes, etc. you can mount on the wall.  Our
library director said she would actually consider letting me put a
couple on one of the square 35" columns in the children's area.

Over the years, several people have told me how fondly they remember
rocking chairs in their home town libraries.Highsmith has nice adult,
youth and child sized rocking chairs.  There's even a double youth one. 

What follows is a list of Children's Furniture Businesses lifted
(mostly) from the LJ Buyer's Guide but there are a few extra I found
along the way:

Big Cozy Books - bigcozybooks.com
Custom Creations - custom-creations.com
Fixtures Furniture - fixturesfurniture.com
Gressco - gresscoltd.com
Highsmith - highsmith.com
Indeco Sales - indecosales.com
Library Bureau - librarybureau.com
Library Design Systems - ldssystems.com
Library Interiors Group - libraryinteriors.com
Palmieri Furniture - palmierifurniture.com
Jim Quinn - jimquinn.com
Sauder Manufacturing - saudercontract.com
Texwood - texwood.com
Vernon - vernlib.com
Worden - wordencompany.com
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Hi Lisa,
We have two book-shaped loveseats from Big Cozy Books. The seat is an
open book and is white like paper. The ends are blue books. We've had no
problems keeping them clean--luckily nobody has written on them with
permanent marker! (which happened in our Gold Cadillac on the vinyl
seat!) Our renovated library opened in August, 2001, so the seats are
nearly 18 months old. If you'd like a picture, just write back and I
will send one as an attachment.

Nancy Eames
Toledo-Lucas County Public Library
neames@toledolibrary.org
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Has anyone ever seen big trees or towers in a public or school library?
Our ceiling is VERY high (like 13 feet) and a big oak tree would look
awesome.  Has anyone seen anything like this - not papier mache - but I
don't know what itwould be made out off.  Wood?  Fiberglass? 

Enough rambling!!  Hopefully, some day soon, you too will be buying fun
stuff for your library.
Best wishes,
Lisa

Lisa Coker
Sterling Municipal Library
Wilbanks Ave
Baytown Tx  77520
281/427-7331

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