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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1010


    PUBYAC Digest 1010

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Looking into libraries
by rose@missoula.lib.mt.us
  2) RE: Library Patrons Say the Darndest Things
by "_shellbells@excite.com" <_shellbells@excite.com>
  3) kids who don't read--so now what?
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
  4) RE: Canadian province books
by "Sophie Brookover" <sophie@mtlaurel.lib.nj.us>
  5) Answers: Book program for troops
by "Christine L. Tyner" <tynercl@yahoo.com>
  6) Ready Reference
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
  7) RE: Children's Ready Reference
by "Suzanne F. Steiger" <ssteiger@tln.lib.mi.us>
  8) Re: Children's Ready Reference
by MzLibrary@aol.com
  9) Re: Behavior signs
by "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
 10) Re: Golden Books
by Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
 11) Re: Valentines Program
by cora ciampi <talescj@yahoo.com>
 12) RE: Library Patrons Say the Darndest Things
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 13) Signs in library
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
 14) Six-year-old and "books kids like"
by Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
 15) Re: Children's Ready Reference
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
 16) Black History Month
by Deana Guido <dlguido1@yahoo.com>
 17) Re: another humorous moment
by Inge Saczkowski <isaczkow@niagarafalls.library.on.ca>
 18) RE: kids who don't read--so now what?
by "Tobin, Renee" <Rtobin@ci.rancho-cucamonga.ca.us>
 19) Re: kids who don't read--so now what?
by Larissa Teachworth <bkluvr2002@yahoo.com>
 20) Re: (Fwd) Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
by "C.A. LeBlanc" <claire_oldsmar@hotmail.com>
 21) RE: Children's Ready Reference
by Sue Ridnour <sue.ridnour@flower-mound.com>
 22) RE: Behavior signs
by "Tomczak, Justine" <tomczak@palsplus.org>
 23) Storytime help
by "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net>
 24) Re: Golden Books
by Shannon Metcalfe <nfcl_lib@yahoo.com>
 25) Storytimes on Illness
by "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
 26) Re: Simple food craft?
by "Donna Moran" <domoran@hotmail.com>
 27) RE: milk allergies, ADA, and storytime
by "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

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From: rose@missoula.lib.mt.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Looking into libraries
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Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 10:36:14 CST

I'm forwarding this for our library director. Please reply to her directly.
Thanks!
Karen Gonzales, Missoula Public Library



Dear smart librarians:

Does anyone know about research or recommendations
pertaining to exterior library windows through which a
passerby can see kids reading or looking for books in the
children's department?

We're in the process of remodeling our atrium (surprise!)
and reclaiming that area for the children's department. We
plan to extend the floor of the children's area over the
atrium to the outside wall. The windows would be about 8
feet above sidewalk/street level.

Opinions?
Reply to: Bette Ammon
bammon@missoula.lib.mt.usBette Ammon, Director
http://www.missoula.lib.mt.us
Missoula Public Library         406.721.2665
301 E Main                      fax 406.728.5900
Missoula MT  59802              bammon@missoula.lib.mt.us
"You've got to be able to make those daring leaps or
you're nowhere," said Muskrat. Russell Hoban's The Mouse
and His Child.

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From: "_shellbells@excite.com" <_shellbells@excite.com>
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Subject: RE: Library Patrons Say the Darndest Things
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Hi!
I am the YA Librarian at our library. While sitting at my desk one day I
overheard what I thought was two people talking. My view of the YA section
from my desk is partially blocked by a shelf.  So while I was doing my work
I half listen to the conversation which went like this:  "I don't know why
you made me come in here you know I hate these books"  To which the other
voice answered "Just shutup" no you shut up, no you shut up after a few
minutes of arguing one voice said I'm leaving are you coming or not?  My
interest had been piqued so I look around the corner and to my surprise
there is one man standing there having a conversation with himself in
different voices so I slowly backed away and left him/them to carry on.
needless to say when he comes in the library I make sure that someone is in
the room with me.  We have since jokingly discussed weather or not we should
make him apply for two cards instead of one.

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: kids who don't read--so now what?
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Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 10:36:31 CST

You know this story makes me really sad and frustrated
as I'm sure it does many of you. But it also makes me
wonder about purchasing more of the books "KIDS like".
More and more I am faced with this exact problem. The
Library I work for now is *really* against purchasing
these types of books. As much as I would like to see
kids reading classics and other "good" stuff", I
remember when Goosebumps were super popular we always
said "at least they're reading". Why is it that when
it comes to Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls we can't say
the same thing?
I had been making a little bit of headway with the
"powers that be" in getting a few of the more popular
titles but now that we are facing a budget crunch I'm
expecting any day now that they will tighten down on
the "standards" again. Yet it seems to me that if we
are going to have limited funding, now is the time to
focus on the things kids want so we don't loose them
altogether. Any thoughts? 

~jennifer
Fresno Co. Library
>
> >Just a note about kids who don't read.
> >
> >A little six year old boy once asked me for a book
> on the WWF wrestlers and
> >I explained they were all checked out.
> >He asked for Pokemon books, same thing - all
> checked out.
> >He then went through a list of cartoon programs
> (Gargoyles, Rugrats,
> >Power-rangers, etc.) and I explained that they were
> very popular (it was
> >summer reading program time) but I suggested some
> other titles that were
> in.
> >He walked with me to see "Captain Underpants," but
> he wouldn't even touch
> >the book. He suggested more TV series, and I
> explained that there were no
> >books written about those particular series. I
> showed him Arthur books,
> >beginning readers, Waldo, I SPY, and many other
> items. I was running out of
> >ideas. We were surrounded by thousands of great
> children's books. He was
> >still unsatisfied so I offered magic books,
> dinosaurs, jet airplanes,
> riddle
> >books, books on sharks, how to draw books, but he
> just looked more
> >disappointed and wouldn't touch them. Finally, he
> slumped against a wall
> and
> >asked in a wistful voice, "Don't you got ANY books
> that KIDS like?"
> >
> >
> >Lori Karns
> >Support Services Manager
> >Ventura County Library
> >196 S. Fir Street, Suite 100
> >Ventura, CA 93001
> >lkarns@rain.org
> >805 641-4449
> >
> >
>


=====
~jenniferbaker
"If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones")

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From: "Sophie Brookover" <sophie@mtlaurel.lib.nj.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Canadian province books
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Hi, Eric (and everyone!) --

We have a new series of books called Exploring Canada, published by
Thomson-Gale.  Published titles so far are Alberta, British Columbia,
Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, and Yukon Territory.  I hope & imagine that books
on Saskatchewan, Nunavut, Labrador & Newfoundland, PEI, Nova Scotia, the
Northwest Territories, and New Brunswick are not far behind.  We keep these
books in YA.

The Junior Worldmark Encyclopedia of the Canadian Provinces (also Gale
Group, under the UXL imprint) is also quite good.  We keep this one-volume
reference in (surprise!) our juvenile reference section.

We also have a couple of volumes from the Lands, Peoples, and Cultures
series.  They're pretty good, but are a bit outdated since the creation of
Nunavut & the merging of Newfoundland & Labrador into one province.

Enjoy!  Any other recommendations out there?

Sophie


Sophie Brookover
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Laurel Library
100 Walt Whitman Avenue
Mount Laurel, NJ  08054
tel:  856.234.7319 x.336
e: sophie@mtlaurel.lib.nj.us





-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Eric Norton
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:03 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Canadian province books



As I am putting together some books for a teacher on Canada, I'm noticing
that we don't have any recent books on the provinces (and no Nunavut books
at all).  Anybody have any recommendations for new books on Canada and her
provinces?

Eric Norton
Head of Children's Services
McMillan Memorial Library
Wisconsin Rapids WI 54494
715-422-5130
enorton@scls.lib.wi.us

"Very senior librarians...once they have proved themselves worthy by
performing some valiant act of librarianship, are accepted into a secret
order and are taught the raw arts of survival beyond the Shelves We Know."
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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From: "Christine L. Tyner" <tynercl@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Answers: Book program for troops
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Here are the responses I received for my query about
book programs for troops. Thank you all for the help.
The original posting is at the bottom.

Thank you,
Christine


In the past the Army libraries had a program in which
they sent books
out to companies that requested it when they were
deployed.

Drabkin, Jane S." <jdrabkin@pwcgov.org

***

There was a discussion of this on NPR (national public
radio) the other
day.
Apparently, they are NOT accepting donations because
of security
reasons.
There is a program to publish "armed forces editions"
of paperbacks and
the
guest being interviewed was the
publisher?/coordinator? of this
program.  If
you need more info., let me know and I'll try to track
down the
specifics.

Carol Levin
Bedminster NJ 07921
908 781 6041
Enjoy Life! This is not a Dress Rehearsal!
Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net

***

FYI

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021225-6089284.htm

Davis, Becky" <bdavis@ascpl.lib.oh.us

***

You might want to check out the Armed Services
Editions offered by the
Legacy Project.  You can check out their website at
http://www.warletters.com/book/asedition.html.

You can also read more about the program at Stars and
Stripes, a
newspaper for members of the service.  The most recent
article is dated Dec.
27. Here's the address:
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=11732&archive=true

If the address doesn't work trying searching the
site's
(www.estripes.com) archives using "armed services
editions."

The only glitch might be that I thought I saw a news
story recently
about how the program was trying to find more sponsers
because they had
run out of copies of the books they had.  (For the
life of me I can't
remember where I saw and I can't find it now.)

I hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Susan Wells
Extension Services Coordinator
Washington County Public Library
Marietta, OH 45740
susanw@wcplib.lib.oh.us

***

Hi Christine,

As a military wife and former Army librarian, the
military has a great
paperback book kit program where we send boxes of
books regularly to
the
troops stationed everywhere.  These are a mix of
bestsellers to
classics
to how to do books.  He doesn't need to sign up or
anything.  This is
something that we do automatically for the soldiers.
There are also
many publishers and authors who donate books as well.
I'm attaching
some
recent articles that may give additional information.
Hope they help!

http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/news/Nov2001/a20011106lamourbooks.html
Books to keep deployed troops turning pages

http://www.pilotonline.com/military/ml1213boo.html
Publishers provide books to entertain troops
By VERONICA BUTTS, The Virginian-Pilot, © December 13,
2002

www.washingtonpost.com
Reading Frenzy: Publishers Send Thousands of Free
Books to Troops
Abroad

By Steve Vogel Thursday, December 26, 2002; Page PW03

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2002/n11072002_200211074.html
Major Publishers Join to Send Books to Troops
By Kathleen T. Rhem, American Forces Press Service

http://www.supportthetroops.com/Page2.html
Support the Troops Campaign, Inc.,
Books for Bases

Domenica Simpson
Children's Librarian (Formerly Librarian at Landstuhl
Army Library,
Germany)
Enoch Pratt Free Library
400 Cathedral Street
Baltimore, MD  21201
410-396-5402
Domenica Simpson" <dsimpson@mail.pratt.lib.md.us

***

Christine,

There is a group called Operation Paperback that can
be reached at OpPaper@aol.com.  Gretchen Blade is the
coordinator.  She can be reached at GBLADE@CLDS.NET.

Good luck!

Stephanie


=====
Stephanie DeClue
Public Services Librarian
Whiteman Air Force Base Library
Whiteman AFB, MO
stephanie declue" <stephdeclue@yahoo.com

***

-----Original Message-----
From: Christine L. Tyner [mailto:tynercl@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:56 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Book program for troops

This is a little off topic, but I had a patron ask me
today if there is a program that sends books to
troops. He is being deployed Monday. Does anyone know
if there is a national program that sends donated
books...do soldiers need to sign up? Any information
or advice on where else to look would be greatly
appreciated. My email address is tynercl@yahoo.com.

Thanks.




=====
Christine L. Tyner
Betty Warmack Branch Library
Grand Prairie, TX
972-237-5773
972-237-5779 fax
tynercl@yahoo.com

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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Ready Reference
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Around here, it would be books on Saints, Native Americans, famous African
Americans, and animals.

Bonita

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From: "Suzanne F. Steiger" <ssteiger@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Children's Ready Reference
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If you were limited to only ONE single book on your Children's Ready
Reference Shelf I think it would have to be a "World Almanac" does anyone
have any other titles for this little scenario?? 

Sue Steiger
Wayne County Regional Library for the Blind
30555 Michigan Avenue
Westland, MI. 48186
(734) 727-7300
(888) 968-2737 TOLL FREE
FAX (734) 727-7333


"TO LOVE WHAT YOU DO AND FEEL THAT IT MATTERS--HOW COULD ANYTHING BE MORE
FUN?" -- Katherine Graham

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From: MzLibrary@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Children's Ready Reference
Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:01:26 CST


On 2/3/03 Kaye Bowes wrote:
"a question for stocking the new library we are building.=A0 There will=20
actually be a children's reference desk with shelves behind for Ready=20
Reference.=A0 It is actually quite a lot of shelves (12).  What else would
y=
ou=20
all recommend be there?"

I think musts for Ready Reference are these:
The Scholastic Homework Reference series:  Everything You Need to Know
About=
=20
Math, English, History (etc.) Homework
Some or all of these:
The Simon and Schuster Encyclopedia of Animals
DK Smithsonian Institution Animal
Dorling Kindersley Animal Encyclopedia
Great Book of the Animal Kingdom (Arch Cape Press)
Imperial Collection of Audubon Animals (out of print, but wonderful)
and any of the visual dictionaries or encyclopedias (Eyewitness and DK)

Charlotte Rabbitt, Children's Librarian
Peterborough Town Library  =20
Peterborough, New Hampshire
"Oh, magic hour when a child first knows it can read printed words!"=20
 from A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith
mzlibrary@aol.com
crabbitt@townofpeterborough.us
http://townofpeterborough.com/library

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From: "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Behavior signs
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Rebecca,

Those signs were great.   It is unfortunate that more people don't read
them.  which may explain why some organizations have resorted to the
more harshly worded ones.  We have signs posted all over regarding
everything from appropriate conduct and our policy on unattended
children to where the restrooms are located.  Sometimes it seems that
all we do is give directions to the bathroom, remind parents that 3 year
olds are too young to be left unattended in the children's area and
police conduct at the computer center.

We have noticed that it's not the way the signs are worded that
matters, but weather people are willing to take the time to read what is
right in front of them.  



Beth McFarland
Youth Services
Westland Area Library
Columbus Ohio

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From: Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Golden Books
Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:01:44 CST

We don't include Golden books simply because they don't have the titles
printed on the spines. This would make shelving a bit of a headache, unless
I took the time to add them. If anyone donates them, we put them in our book
sale room. They don't last there for long, though.
Occassionally we are given a video with Golden books stories on it. We have
added them to our video collection and they are always popular.
I was interested in your reference to a collection development policy. I've
worked here almost 14 years and never seen one. I don't know if we have any
such thing in writing, or if it's always left to the director's judgement.
Peg Siebert
Blodgett Library
Fishkill, NY
Ramarie Beaver <rbeaver@mckinneytexas.org> wrote: Do any of you have Golden
Books in your collection? If so, do they circulate and hold up well? If you
don't have them, is it written into your collection development policy to
not add them?
Thanks for your replies!

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From: cora ciampi <talescj@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Valentines Program
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Here is one I use and kids love it...."I love you, I
love you, I love you divine. Please give me your
bubble gum, you're sitting on mine".
--- Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I am looking for some books and music (fingerplays,
> rhymes, recorded music) that would be appropriate
> for
> a preschool storytime on Valentines Day.
>
> Thanks for your time in advance!
>
> You can email me directly at heatherlynnu@yahoo.com
>
> Heather
>
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Library Patrons Say the Darndest Things
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We had a similar experience in our Reference area
once. There was a woman sitting at a table "arguing"
with several invisible companions and making quite a
bit of noise. Several other patrons were starting to
get disturbed so one of the Reference Librarians went
over to ask her to please keep her conversation down.
The lady responded by saying, "it's not me that's
being loud, it's 'them'!" Without missing a beat the
Librarian turned to the empty chairs and repeated her
request that they lower their voices. As she walked
away she heard the woman whisper--"I told you, you
would get us in trouble."

it's never boring!
~jennifer
Fresno Co. Library
=====
~jenniferbaker
"If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones")

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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Signs in library
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"Chris Accardo" writes:

My theory is that no behavior signs work.  People know they aren't
supposed to be bringing food or drink or being disruptive in the library
and no sign is going to stop them if they choose to anyway.  All signs
do is give people a defensive and/or combative frame of mind, if they
pay attention to them at all.



You know, I don't think people have any idea that there's any place in the
world you can't bring food and drink.  Really, they are so surprised!

(Myself, I think it's a losing battle anyway, on the food and drink front.)

Bonita

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From: Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Six-year-old and "books kids like"
Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:02:18 CST

This sounds to me like a kid who was having a "nothing suits me" day. If you
can't get a six-year-old boy interested in Arthur, I Spy, dinosaurs, vicious
animals, or any of the other things proposed, it's time to give up. We all
have days when we can't work up any enthusiasm for a book, movie, or
whatever. We've all heard, "I went to the shoe store and didn't see a thing
I liked!" If      s can experience this mood, so can kids.

I say it's not your collection, the board's standards, or anything else for
which you are responsible. Just leave the kid alone and let him get rid of
his mood on his own. Another day everything will interested him.

Peg Siebert

Blodgett Library

Fishkill, NY

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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <kbear97@hotmail.com>,<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Children's Ready Reference
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In addition to the books mentioned by others, I would add Junior Genreflect=
ing and What do I read next? for kids. =20

Kim E. Dolce
Children's Librarian
Port Orange Regional Library
Port Orange, FL  32129
kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us
>>> kbear97@hotmail.com 02/03/03 12:49 PM >>>
 Ready Reference what else would you all recommend be there?








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From: Deana Guido <dlguido1@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Black History Month
Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:02:34 CST


I've gotten several calls to do "storytelling" at the schools for Black
History Month.  The latest request is for a 30 minute program for 5th
graders.  I usually work with preschoolers and early elementary students, so
I'd appreciate any advice you have to offer.  Has anyone developed a similar
program of reading books or storytelling for this age group, and can you
please share any resources or experiences?

Thanks,

Deana Guido
Youth Services/Reference Librarian
Edgecombe County Memorial Library
Tarboro, NC

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From: Inge Saczkowski <isaczkow@niagarafalls.library.on.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: another humorous moment
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Ok, if we need another one,  I'll give you my funniest question:
" who are the neuter Indians and why are they extinct?"

Susan Anderson-Newham wrote:

> Yaccers,
> My scariest question was the young man who walked up
> to the Reference desk and asked politely, "Excuse me,
> where is your Pornography section?" I was temporarily
> dumbstruck and probably looked it. Not knowing what to
> say next, I asked him if it was for a school project
> and he said yes. And I must have still looked
> dumbstruck because he suddenly blushed a bright shade
> of red and practically shouted "I need the laws and
> stuff, not the PICTURES!"
>
> I really do love my job - never boring!
>
> Susan
>
> =====
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I
> go into another room and read a book"
> Groucho Marx
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From: "Tobin, Renee" <Rtobin@ci.rancho-cucamonga.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: kids who don't read--so now what?
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And do the "powers that be" approve of purchasing popular adult titles or do
they limit that collection to classics as well?

Renee Tobin
Rancho Cucamonga Public Library

-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:jbaker93711@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:37 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: kids who don't read--so now what?


You know this story makes me really sad and frustrated
as I'm sure it does many of you. But it also makes me
wonder about purchasing more of the books "KIDS like".
More and more I am faced with this exact problem. The
Library I work for now is *really* against purchasing
these types of books. As much as I would like to see
kids reading classics and other "good" stuff", I
remember when Goosebumps were super popular we always
said "at least they're reading". Why is it that when
it comes to Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls we can't say
the same thing?
I had been making a little bit of headway with the
"powers that be" in getting a few of the more popular
titles but now that we are facing a budget crunch I'm
expecting any day now that they will tighten down on
the "standards" again. Yet it seems to me that if we
are going to have limited funding, now is the time to
focus on the things kids want so we don't loose them
altogether. Any thoughts?

~jennifer
Fresno Co. Library
>
> >Just a note about kids who don't read.
> >
> >A little six year old boy once asked me for a book
> on the WWF wrestlers and
> >I explained they were all checked out.
> >He asked for Pokemon books, same thing - all
> checked out.
> >He then went through a list of cartoon programs
> (Gargoyles, Rugrats,
> >Power-rangers, etc.) and I explained that they were
> very popular (it was
> >summer reading program time) but I suggested some
> other titles that were
> in.
> >He walked with me to see "Captain Underpants," but
> he wouldn't even touch
> >the book. He suggested more TV series, and I
> explained that there were no
> >books written about those particular series. I
> showed him Arthur books,
> >beginning readers, Waldo, I SPY, and many other
> items. I was running out of
> >ideas. We were surrounded by thousands of great
> children's books. He was
> >still unsatisfied so I offered magic books,
> dinosaurs, jet airplanes,
> riddle
> >books, books on sharks, how to draw books, but he
> just looked more
> >disappointed and wouldn't touch them. Finally, he
> slumped against a wall
> and
> >asked in a wistful voice, "Don't you got ANY books
> that KIDS like?"
> >
> >
> >Lori Karns
> >Support Services Manager
> >Ventura County Library
> >196 S. Fir Street, Suite 100
> >Ventura, CA 93001
> >lkarns@rain.org
> >805 641-4449
> >
> >
>


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~jenniferbaker
"If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones")

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From: Larissa Teachworth <bkluvr2002@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: kids who don't read--so now what?
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Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:03:02 CST

<<I remember when Goosebumps were super popular we
always said "at least they're reading". Why is it that
when it comes to Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls we
can't say the same thing? >>

True, but at least Goosebumps is a little bit more
challenging to read --by a well-established author!

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
:) Larissa



--- Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You know this story makes me really sad and
> frustrated
> as I'm sure it does many of you. But it also makes
> me
> wonder about purchasing more of the books "KIDS
> like".
> More and more I am faced with this exact problem.
> The
> Library I work for now is *really* against
> purchasing
> these types of books. As much as I would like to see
> kids reading classics and other "good" stuff", I
> remember when Goosebumps were super popular we
> always
> said "at least they're reading". Why is it that when
> it comes to Spongebob and Powerpuff Girls we can't
> say
> the same thing?
> I had been making a little bit of headway with the
> "powers that be" in getting a few of the more
> popular
> titles but now that we are facing a budget crunch
> I'm
> expecting any day now that they will tighten down on
> the "standards" again. Yet it seems to me that if we
> are going to have limited funding, now is the time
> to
> focus on the things kids want so we don't loose them
> altogether. Any thoughts? 
>
> ~jennifer
> Fresno Co. Library



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From: "C.A. LeBlanc" <claire_oldsmar@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
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>From:           Linette Ivanovitch <linette@missoula.lib.mt.us>
>To:             pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject:        Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
>Date sent:      Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:15:14 -0800
>
>I think we do a disservice to the hardworking committees when we bash
>their decisions.  After all, the winners and honor books must be
>unanimous committee decisions.  I am certain that many, if not most,
>of the committee members, had to give up on a personal favorite in the
>interest of concensus.

I don't think anyone is "bashing" the efforts of the committee members, I'm
sure we all can appreciate what a tough job they have.  One purpose of this
list is to discuss YA/juvenile literature, and that includes discussing
awards for such literature in my opinion.  I for one am very interested in
others' opinions about the award winners or not and don't wish to see this
discussion stifled.

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From: Sue Ridnour <sue.ridnour@flower-mound.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Children's Ready Reference
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I concur with all the suggestions made so far, and would also add that if
you have a lot of room (and the budget for it), it is often helpful to keep
non-circulating copies of some of the high-demand non-fiction titles on your
reference shelves, such as a few science fair experiment books, the colonial
craftsman series, the Christmas Around the World series -- or whatever the
hot topics are in your library.  For us right now, it would be any book
about Adelie penguins!

Also I don't think anyone has yet mentioned a book on flags of the world,
and one on U.S. state flags and state symbols.

Sue Ridnour
Children's Services Manager
Flower Mound (TX) Public Library

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaye Bowes [mailto:kbear97@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:06 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Children's Ready Reference


Here I am again, with a question for stocking the new library we are
building.  There will actually be a children's reference desk with shelves
behind for Ready Reference.  It is actually quite a lot of shelves (12).  I
plan to have the newest World Book, a couple of dictionaries, thesaureses
(?), a couple of World Almanacs, and perhaps a Guiness World Record there.

What else would you all recommend be there?

TIA!

Kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE





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From: "Tomczak, Justine" <tomczak@palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Behavior signs
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<snip>
"People know they aren't supposed to be bringing food or drink or being
disruptive in the library and no sign is going to stop them if they choose
to anyway..."
<snip>

Very true.  BUT... It's nice to have backup when patrons approached (calmly
and nicely!) about their behavior challenge, "I don't see that written down
anywhere!"

Justine Tomczak, Librarian
Clifton (NJ) Public Library


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Accardo [mailto:Caccardo@GPTX.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:35 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Behavior signs


My theory is that no behavior signs work.  People know they aren't
supposed to be bringing food or drink or being disruptive in the library
and no sign is going to stop them if they choose to anyway.  All signs
do is give people a defensive and/or combative frame of mind, if they
pay attention to them at all.

Chris

Mr. Chris Accardo
Librarian
Grand Prairie Memorial Library
901 Conover
Grand Prairie, TX  75051
972.237.5715
caccardo@gptx.org

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From: "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Storytime help
Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:03:35 CST

Hi All,
There have been some great discussions on PUBYAC lately on storytimes and
they are so timely!  My co-programmer and I have been thinking about re-
vamping our preschool and toddler storytime in a way that accommodates our
community's needs.  Currently we have no baby storytimes (but constantly
get asked about it).  We register our toddlers (age 2) but the preschool
(ages 3-4) are drop in.  We are thinking of doing something where we
include ages 0-5, parents participate (or at least stay in the room!) and
is drop in, once a week (or more if needed).  We thought of calling it
just plain "Storytime" or "Family Storytime" (although I feel that's a
bit misleading). 

I was wondering if anyone out there does or has done a program like this
(all inclusive, ages 0-5) and what the pitfalls and pleasures are/were. 
And also, what do/did you call it?

Thanks in advance!
April Mazza
Youth Services
Wayland Public Library
(508) 358-2308
AMazza@minlib.net

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From: Shannon Metcalfe <nfcl_lib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Golden Books
Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 18:25:13 CST


Hi -- There were tons of Golden Books in the collection when I came here a
few years ago.  They do not circulate often, even though we display them
alongside paperback picture books that do circulate quite a bit.  I've been
steadily weeding them, keeping only the classic stories or illustrators.

Shannon Metcalfe, Librarian
New Florence Community Library
New Florence, PA  15944

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From: "Beth McFarland" <BMCFARLAND@cml.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Storytimes on Illness
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I know this topic was coverd recently, but I can't find any info. on it
in my backfiles so....

Did anyone save the compilation of 'sick' storytime ideas? If so could
you please re-post it or send it to me off list @

bmcfarland@cml.lib.oh.us

thanks!


Beth McFarland
Youth Services
Westland Area Library
Columbus Ohio

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From: "Donna Moran" <domoran@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Simple food craft?
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I've always liked "drawing" with spaghetti -- cold, cooked spaghetti makes
great pictures on construction paper, and the starch in the pasta adheres
naturally to the paper.  I give a small bowl to each child filled about
halfway and the kids can eat and create.  Finger painting with pudding is
fun, too.  And, when in doubt, I have kids ice large sugar cookies and
decorate with mini chocolate chips, sprinkes, etc.
Good luck.
Donna Moran
Fresno County Library






>From: "Gregg and Mary Cage" <gmcage@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
>Subject: Simple food craft?
>Date: Tue,  4 Feb 2003 10:31:11 CST
>
>I'm looking for ideas for a simple craft to accompany a food-themed =
>storytime. Any recommendations? Please reply directly to me and I'll =
>compile answers for anyone interested. Thanks!
>
>Mary Cage
>gmcage@earthlink.net
>Intern, San Jose Public Library


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From: "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: milk allergies, ADA, and storytime
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Well, I'm a librarian, not a lawyer, but I believe that ADA requires you =
to make "reasonable accommodation" for a person with any sort of =
disability covered under the act.  I think "reasonable accommodation" =
could be extended to not serving any milk products at a program which =
this child is attending, provided that you're given enough advance =
notice, but I don't think the patron can reasonably expect you to =
sanitize and milk-proof the entire building on his behalf.  I mean, I'm =
sure this child has been in other public places.  There is always some =
risk that when you are in a public place, someone else will be doing =
something (breathing out germs, bleeding and spreading germs that way, =
etc., etc.) that could put your health at risk.  You can't reasonably =
expect that risk to be completely eliminated if it means infringing on =
the rights of others. =20

So, it's reasonable to do everything you can to avoid introducing the =
child to the allergen.  I suspect it's not reasonable to expect all =
others to curtail their activities in the fear that this child might be =
exposed. =20

Bottom line?  I'd check with your attorney.  Good luck!

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org
Cook Memorial Public Library
Libertyville, IL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Junior Room Staff [SMTP:dgjrrm@SLS.LIB.IL.US]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:35 AM
> To: YouthNet; pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: milk allergies, ADA, and storytime
>=20
> We had a father approach the library administration with a concern.  =
His son
> has severe milk allergies.  He said allergies of this sort are covered =
under
> ADA (although we're checking on that) and his big concern is that milk =
from
> bottles (and perhaps nursing mothers???) may spill over during story =
time
> and
> his child could be exposed to it and put at serious risk.
>=20
> So, the administration has asked that we check... has anyone been =
exposed to
> this sort of thing.  Our board allows beverages in the library.  What =
have
> you
> all done regarding food allergies?
>=20
> Can anyone ban children from drinking their bottles in the library?  =
Do you
> tell a nursing mother to knock it off in these circumstances (!!!)??  =
It's a
> quandry.
>=20
> Sharon L.
> Junior Room Staff
> Downers Grove Public Library
> 1050 Curtiss Street
> Downers Grove, IL  60515
>=20
> 630.960.1200
>=20
> Downers Grove Public Library ... The Place to Go When You Need to =
Know!!
> www.DownersGroveLibrary.org
>=20

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