02-18-03 or 1029

02-18-03 or 1029

From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1029

 PUBYAC Digest 1029

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Re: preschool toys
by Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Parents and children
by Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
3) Re: Staff Picks
by "Shari Ellison, Librarian" <sm_librarian@mcpl.lib.mo.us>
4) Re: Parents and children (Re: Career Day)
by "Rob Reid" <reid@ifls.lib.wi.us>
5) Re: storytime on teeth
by TEACHINGTALES@aol.com
6) RE: Parents and children (Re: Career Day)
by "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
7) RE: Libraries Identified as Non-Essential Services
by "Tobin, Renee" <Rtobin@ci.rancho-cucamonga.ca.us>
8) Re: april fool's day
by "Kidstaff" <KIDSTAFF@mx.tol.lib.ca.us>
9) spoon man program
by Anne Cottrell <iamaec@yahoo.com>
10) Parents and children and "literature"
by Ginny Mckee <tobytonga@yahoo.com>
11) Interview questions
by nhcheerio@juno.com
12) green beans
by Darlene Green <greend@hhpl.on.ca>
13) RE: april fool's day
by Jeanne O'Grady <OGRADYJ@santacruzpl.org>
14) Re: Oobleck
by Marijo Kist <marijo.kist@phxlib.org>
15) Stumper - Swiss Plane Crash
by Kathleen Gruver <kgruver@lmxac.org>
16) Stumper - fairy tale?
by "Spargo, Amanda" <Amanda.Spargo@library.ottawa.on.ca>

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From: Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: preschool toys
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:29:28 CST

Get rid of the puzzles?!?!? We have children who come in specifically for
the puzzles. I have to take them away and sit in front of them during
storytime or the children will play with them while I'm reading. They make a
great distraction for little ones while Mom helps out an older sibling. I
figure its rare that children are so enthusiastic about something that is so
good for their development.
I'd say, if the puzzles you have are losing their appeal for you you might
try getting some new ones and rotating them. I have several Christmas
puzzles I only put out in December and the kids really miss them when I put
them away. You might try floor puzzles; the size really attracts the
children.
I can't think of anything else that's absorbing, mess-free, and quiet that
would make as good an alternative.
That being said, you might try some toys that pass every imaginable safety
and washability test, or some puppets. Be prepared to wash them
frequently,though, especially during the winter.
Peg Siebert
Blodgett Library
Fishkill, NY
Ann Trompeter <ann@lfpl.org> wrote: Our library is interested in freshening
up our children's area. The shared
information on furniture was very helpful.
We would like to get rid of the puzzles and offer something else for
preschoolers. I'd love some of your ideas.

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From: Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Parents and children
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One of my most memorable "childhood" books was a copy of "The Happy Hooker
by Hollander. We found it in my girlfriend's older brother's room and spent
an entire summer out in a tent in her backyard reading it, giggling, & not
believing a word of it. I believe that we were about 12. (And no, neither
of us decided to make "Lady of Ill Repute" a career move.)

I also remember, however, reading Alcott's "Little Women" in 2nd grade. I
loved it. Then, a year later, I found my dad's copy of Fahrenheit 451 and
read it. I was terrified that such a world may come to pass, so I set
myself to the task of "becoming" Little Women so the story would not be lost
when our government started burning all the books. My mother thought I was
mad. She took the book away so I couldn't memorize any more of it.

To this day, I would still choose to "become" Little Women if I had to.
What single book would all of you choose to be?

Dawn Sardes
Teen Services Librarian
Euclid Public Library
Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org
216-261-5300, ext. 138

"Libraries allow children to ask questions about the world and find the
answers. And the wonderful thing is that once a child learns to use a
library, the doors to learning are always open."
-Laura Bush, First Lady, June 2002

----- Original Message -----
From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:16 am
Subject: Parents and children

> Seems to me, at least as often as I see a child being pushed
> ahead, I see
> one being held back: "No, honey, that's too hard for you." Not
> good either.
> I don't think children need to fully understand what they read.
> The main
> thing is that they get in the habit of dragging those little old
> eyes over
> the page and getting -something- out of it. If it's too hard, who
> cares?Too easy, who cares? Too trivial, too deep, too sad, too
> silly, too old,
> too young--sometimes I wish I could pry everyone off the child's
> back and
> let the kid alone to read whatever they want.
>
> At ages eight to twelve, I was reading Winnie the Pooh and
> Sherlock Holmes
> and Mary Poppins and Nancy Drew and the Bobbsey Twins and Better
> Homes &
> Gardens and the Golden Encyclopedia and Mistress Masham's Repose
> and a
> Robert Benchley book I didn't understand all all--didn't know it was
> supposed to be funny--and Little Lulu comics and Donald Duck
> comics and an
> occasional horror comic that slipped through parental radar and
> the dirty
> parts of any books my parents brought home from the library and Better
> Themes and my school reading books and Eight Cousins and Men
> Called Him
> Master, etc., etc., etc.
>
> Of course, library people tend to be readers, but reading a huge
> mishmashwith no one to say, "That's too hard" or "That's too
> easy," strikes me as a
> good way to get in the reading habit.
>
> If they learned video games in school, and watched movies, and
> wrote reports
> on them--if their parents said, "You haven't watched a single TV
> show this
> week; I want you to watch at least two hours of TV today," and
> tried to
> regulate the shows--"No, that one's too easy for you, watch this one
> instead."--do you think we'd have the same trouble with non-
> viewers or
> non-players as we have with non-readers? Or is watching TV so
> easy that it
> has instant appeal in spite of any adult encouragement?
>
> Bonita
>
>
>
>
>
> Bonita
>
>

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From: "Shari Ellison, Librarian" <sm_librarian@mcpl.lib.mo.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Staff Picks
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:29:44 CST

We use "You've Got to Read This Book!"
 Staff Recommendations
I don't know how catchy it is, but it seems to have worked for us.
Shari Ellison


From: Jennifer Cogan
<jcogan@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Staff Picks
Date sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:16:14 CST
Send reply to: pubyac@prairienet.org

Hello!
After reading a pubyac post about displaying Staff favorites to
recommend to kids, our library would like to do something similar.
Do
any of you out there have a snazzy title for this kind of display? We
are trying to think of something a little more creative than "Staff
picks" - this is used in our adult fiction department. Any suggestions
would be appreciated! Thank you!

Jennifer Cogan
Children's Department
Enoch Pratt Free Library
(410)-396-5402
jcogan@epfl.net

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Shari Ellison, Librarian sm_librarian@mcpl.lib.mo.us
Smithville Branch
Mid-Continent Public Library http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us
Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.

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From: "Rob Reid" <reid@ifls.lib.wi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Parents and children (Re: Career Day)
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On the other hand, if I went to a library as a parent and wanted to select
Moby Dick for my child, I would be appalled and insulted if the librarian
tried to talk me out of it. Please don't begrudge his request.
Rob Reid
Youth Services/Special Needs Coordinator
Indianhead Federated Library System
1538 Truax Blvd, Eau Claire, WI 54703
715-839-5082, ext. 14
Fax: 715-839-5151
reid@ifls.lib.wi.us
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katrina Neville" <KatrinaN@moval.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Parents and children (Re: Career Day)

> Speaking of age-appropriate books, a few weeks ago, I had a parent come in
> and ask for "Moby Dick" for his 11-year-old daughter! MOBY DICK!!! When
I
> suggested "The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle" as a possible
> alternative with a similar high-seas-adventure theme (the child had to do
an
> adventure book report), he read the jacket flap and dismissed the book out
> of hand, despite my protests that the book was a Newbery honor book and
very
> well received by children and critics alike. I also informed him that
most
> people do not read "Moby Dick" until they are in high school or even
> college. He insisted on the (not-so-)Great White Whale, so I grudgingly
gave
> him the call number.
>
> I am amazed at how completely dense some people are, especially when they
> think they're doing their kids a great favor by exposing them to "great
> works of literature" at a young age!
>
> Katrina
>
> Katrina Neville
> Children's Librarian
> City of Moreno Valley
> 25480 Alessandro Blvd.
> Moreno Valley, CA 92553
> t: 909-413-3880
> f: 909-247-8346
> e: katrinan@moval.org
> w: www.moreno-valley.ca.us
>
>

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From: TEACHINGTALES@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: storytime on teeth
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In a message dated 2/18/2003 11:29:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
bkworm@mindspring.com writes:

>
> Also, a friend is doing a preschool storytime on teeth. Any stories,
> songs,
> or fingerplays? Thanks

A couple to sink your teeth into. (groan :)

Karen

<A HREF="http://www.preschooleducation.com/sdental.shtml">Preschool
Education Music & Songs: Dental Health</A>
http://www.preschooleducation.com/sdental.shtml

This Is The Way ...with appropriate actions.
<A HREF="http://www.allkids.co.uk/Iam1/1nurseryrhymes.htm">All kids, action
songs,nursery rhymes and fingerplays for your 1 year old
toddler</A>

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From: "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Parents and children (Re: Career Day)
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Regarding 3rd graders and careers, I think most young children DO think =
about "what they want to be when they grow up," so I don't think it's =
really to early to talk about careers, on their level. I don't think you =
have to go into details like how much you make, just general things like =
you like to read books, you like to help people find answers to questions, =
you like to show people how to use computers, etc. My granddaughter just =
turned 8 and has already decided she wants to be "the library lady" at her =
school. (She doesn't live near me and I don't get to see her often, so =
she's not really aware of what I do in my job; she just knows I tell great =
stories!) I knew by 4th grade that I wanted to be a teacher. (And I was =
a teacher before I switched to library.) =20

Cindy Rider
School Liaison Librarian
Vigo Co. Public Library
Terre Haute, IN
crider@vigo.lib.in.us

P.S. "Moby Dick" is the ONE book I never COULD get through in high =
school!!=20

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Speaking of age-appropriate books, a few weeks ago, I had a parent come in
and ask for "Moby Dick" for his 11-year-old daughter! MOBY DICK!!! When =
I
suggested "The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle" as a possible
alternative with a similar high-seas-adventure theme (the child had to do =
an
adventure book report), he read the jacket flap and dismissed the book out
of hand, despite my protests that the book was a Newbery honor book and =
very
well received by children and critics alike. I also informed him that =
most
people do not read "Moby Dick" until they are in high school or even
college. He insisted on the (not-so-)Great White Whale, so I grudgingly =
gave
him the call number.

I am amazed at how completely dense some people are, especially when they
think they're doing their kids a great favor by exposing them to "great
works of literature" at a young age!

Katrina

Katrina Neville
Children's Librarian
City of Moreno Valley
25480 Alessandro Blvd.
Moreno Valley, CA 92553
t: 909-413-3880
f: 909-247-8346
e: katrinan@moval.org=20
w: www.moreno-valley.ca.us=20

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From: "Tobin, Renee" <Rtobin@ci.rancho-cucamonga.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Libraries Identified as Non-Essential Services
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:30:16 CST

What is considered essential? Fire, police and medical services? And of
course tax collection--I'm sure that's essential to the auditor!

Renee Tobin

-----Original Message-----
From: Barb Thompson [mailto:barbt1956@attbi.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:42 AM
To: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
Subject: Libraries Identified as Non-Essential Services

"the Awada plan would "gut" regional centers that provide services such
as libraries, airports and health services." St. Paul Pioneer Press,
February 13, 2003

The Minnesota State Auditor has recommended budget cuts to
"non-essential" services. Identified as non-essential are public
libraries. If any of you would like to drop a line to Ms. Pat Awada,
Minnesota State Auditor, her email address is as follows.

stateauditor@osa.state.mn.us

Please help our state government to understand the purpose of libraries
and the importance of access to information.

Thanks!

Barb

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From: "Kidstaff" <KIDSTAFF@mx.tol.lib.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: april fool's day
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Raffi's song "Brush Your Teeth" is a cute one. I did a program on teeth
and made little boxes for the tooth fairy as a handout for the kids. I
also ordered a gross of toothbrushes in many colors from Sherman and
gave each child one to take home. Sherman also has a large cardboard
molar that I used as a prop for my program. I read stories about the
tooth fairy, Arthur's New Tooth, etc. The program (for preschoolers)
was very successful.

Barbara Poole
Thousand Oaks Library
Thousand Oaks, Ca 91362

>>> bkworm@mindspring.com 02/18/03 08:17AM >>>
Hello, Collective Brain!
I have an afterschool storytime for elementary age on March 31 and
thought
it would be fun to read funny stories for April Fool's Day. Does
anyone
have suggestions on crafts or games that would fit the theme of April
Fool's
day? I want to do something REALLY fun. I will post results to
listserv.

Also, a friend is doing a preschool storytime on teeth. Any stories,
songs,
or fingerplays? Thanks!
Mary Jones
Huntsville, AL

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From: Anne Cottrell <iamaec@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: spoon man program
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:30:32 CST

Hello all-
Are there any libraries in the Evansville, IN area
that would be interested in having the Spoon Man visit
this summer? I already have one other library who will
book him with me, so your cost would be one show for
$300 and the three libraries would split one night's
lodging for him. Right now, he is holding June 3 and
July 8 for us. I need to let him know asap what we
want, so if anyone's interested, please e-mail me at
iamaec@yahoo.com, or better yet call me at
812 838-3286.

Anne Cottrell
Alexandrian P.L.
Mt. Vernon, IN


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From: Ginny Mckee <tobytonga@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Parents and children and "literature"
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:30:40 CST

But those same parents 'turn their noses up' when you
try to suggest that they read the REAL Winnie The Pooh
stories...... According to many - Disney is the
real...
--- Katrina Neville <KatrinaN@moval.org> wrote:
> Speaking of age-appropriate books, a few weeks ago,
> I had a parent come in
> and ask for "Moby Dick" for his 11-year-old
> daughter! >
> I am amazed at how completely dense some people are,
> especially when they
> think they're doing their kids a great favor by
> exposing them to "great
> works of literature" at a young age!
>
> Katrina
>
> Katrina Neville
> Children's Librarian
> City of Moreno Valley
> 25480 Alessandro Blvd.
> Moreno Valley, CA 92553
> t: 909-413-3880
> f: 909-247-8346
> e: katrinan@moval.org
> w: www.moreno-valley.ca.us
>

=====
Ginny McKee
Children's Librarian
South Brunswick, NJ
tobytonga@yahoo.com

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Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day
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From: nhcheerio@juno.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Interview questions
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Hi Yaccers,

I have been a lurker for many months now, but am now in need of your
collective help. I graduated from library school in December and am
searching for a youth librarian position. I have a phone interview in a
couple of days, and am wondering if you would be willing to share some
questions you received when you were being interviewed for your
positions. Obviously you successfully answered whatever questions were
thrown at you, so I am counting on you for your experience. The position
I'm interviewing for is in a branch library in a medium-sized library
district in the midwest. Thanks for whatever help you can give me!

Lisa Pinard

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From: Darlene Green <greend@hhpl.on.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: green beans
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Hi Pubyacers!
A patron is looking for a book that her daughter read a year ago and
would just love to read again. It's about a girl who eats green beans
and turns different colours. She may turn many colours at some point?
And eventually turns back to normal.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Darlene Green
Halton Hills Public Library

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From: Jeanne O'Grady <OGRADYJ@santacruzpl.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: april fool's day
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I have done several programs on "funny books" and included a s the craft
activity making Mobeus strips. The kids love them and after they are made
you can have them draw around the strip in a never-ending line and then cut
the strip in half or thirds to get interlocking strips. Great fun and just
like magic to the kids. Do have a book or reference explaining the strips
available for those who ask "why?"

Jeanne Kelly O'Grady
Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Santa Cruz Public Libraries
Santa Cruz, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: bkworm@mindspring.com [mailto:bkworm@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:18 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: april fool's day

Hello, Collective Brain!
I have an afterschool storytime for elementary age on March 31 and thought
it would be fun to read funny stories for April Fool's Day. Does anyone
have suggestions on crafts or games that would fit the theme of April Fool's
day? I want to do something REALLY fun. I will post results to listserv.

Also, a friend is doing a preschool storytime on teeth. Any stories, songs,
or fingerplays? Thanks!
Mary Jones
Huntsville, AL

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From: Marijo Kist <marijo.kist@phxlib.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Oobleck
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My personal favorite Oobleck recipe is edible; so if that is a problem in
your system, you know that up front. Just add green food coloring to
Marshmallow fluff. It is sticky, it is gooey, it is just as nasty as I
imagined Oobleck when I was growing up. And to mix threads, that was one of
my standout picture books as a child.

Marijo Kist

Quoting Phoebe Carter <pcarter@weberpl.lib.ut.us>:

>
> Does anyone have a surefire oobleck recipe to share? We've tried the =
> cornstarch and water one but it doesn't seem to work very well. Thanks
> in =
> advance--
> Phoebe Carter
> Youth Services Manager
> Weber County Library
> Ogden, UT
> pcarter@weberpl.lib.ut.us
>
>

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From: Kathleen Gruver <kgruver@lmxac.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - Swiss Plane Crash
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PUBYAC folk, I need help with this stumper. The book in question is
probably from the 50s or 60s and is a chapter book with some line
illustrations. The main characters are a young boy and girl, as well as
a baby of Asian descent. These three are the only survivors of a plane
crash in the Swiss Alps, and the book details how they find a deserted
mountain village and make use of what is left there to survive the
winter. I've tried a number of different sources and searches and can't
come up with anything. Does this one ring a bell with anyone? Thanks
for your help!

Kathleen Gruver
kgruver@lmxac.org

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From: "Spargo, Amanda" <Amanda.Spargo@library.ottawa.on.ca>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>,
Subject: Stumper - fairy tale?
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:31:29 CST

Greetings,

A patron is looking for a story which he believes is a fairy tale? A mother
travels to the end of the earth to meet death, faces death, and bargains
with him for the life of her dying child. Does this sound familiar to
anyone?

Thanks,
Amanda

Amanda Spargo
Children's Services
Ottawa Public Library
Ruth E. Dickinson Branch
100 Malvern Drive, Nepean, ON
K2J 2G5
(613) 825-3508
amanda.spargo@library.ottawa.on.ca

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