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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 6:43 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1147
PUBYAC Digest 1147
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) looking for a character named Page
by "fran manushkin" <franm@pipeline.com>
2) Stumper SOLVED: Town with crazy train tracks
by Marisa Treglio <lilac_girl99@yahoo.com>
3) Order of the Phoenix
by "Cheryl D." <whirlee@hotmail.com>
4) stumper-witches travel
by "Jennifer McQuilkin" <JMcQuilkin@joplinpubliclibrary.org>
5) Stumper
by "BJ quinlan" <BJQUINLAN@mail.open.org>
6) Stumper: Boy down a hole
by Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
7) Stumper: woman who can knit everything
by "Monica Anderson" <m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us>
8) Baseball/Football flannelboard story...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
9) Answer to Golden Book Stumper
by Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
10) Re: Celebration of 50 years...
by Lorie O'Donnell <Lodonnell@midyork.org>
11) stumper: "somebody, nobody, somebody came"
by "Kathleen Odean" <kathleenodean@hotmail.com>
12) Stumper-House in Country with city moving in
by Janice Dukes <jpdukes@peachtree-city.org>
13) Re: banned books
by Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
14) Re: reducing hours your library is open???
by "Anita Palladino" <apalladi@ansernet.rcls.org>
15) Re: Library cards and divorced parents
by "Micky" <hurdm@uhls.lib.ny.us>
16) Re: Library treasure hunt
by "HOW Rebecca Smith" <howrs@llcoop.org>
17) Re: banned books
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
18) RE: Weird Rumor
by "Vasilik, Patricia" <vasilik@palsplus.org>
19) Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
20) Central Service Desk-- looking for feedback
by "Ginny McLain" <mclain@plsinfo.org>
21) Lewis & Clark
by "Karen Holz" <easternlibrary@smithville.net>
22) Interfile holiday books? What do you think?
by Jennifer Fay <j_fay84103@yahoo.com>
23) Re: banned books
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
24) Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
by N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>
25) Reducing library hours ideas--Thanks!!!
by Sallywilms@aol.com
26) RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by Susan Smith <smith_s_l@sbcglobal.net>
27) Easy readers
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
28) RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by "Pamela Stamper" <pstamper@nols.org>
29) Re: Library cards and divorced parents
by "Cindy Rider" <crider@vigo.lib.in.us>
30) Re: banned books
by "Cindy Rider" <crider@vigo.lib.in.us>
31) Re: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by Cassie Wilson <cwilson2@woh.rr.com>
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From: "fran manushkin" <franm@pipeline.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: looking for a character named Page
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Dear Librarians, I met a woman last night who was named Page by her mother,
based on a character she'd read about in a novel in the 40's or early
fifties. Can someone identify this book for me? She'd be very grateful to
know who she's named after. Thanks! Fran
http://www.franmanushkin.com
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From: Marisa Treglio <lilac_girl99@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper SOLVED: Town with crazy train tracks
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:29:11 CDT
Many thanks to all who recognized the story about the
man with the broken glasses who built train tracks all
over a town.
The book is "Tracks" by David Galef, and my patron
will be thrilled that we were able to find it! :)
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From: "Cheryl D." <whirlee@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Order of the Phoenix
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Have any of you been receiving disappointed reactions to the latest Harry
Potter? My 14 year old niece and 16 year old nephew finished in by June 22nd
and both felt let down. Just wondering since I don't plan on reading it
myself.
Cheryl
Canton (CT) PL
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From: "Jennifer McQuilkin" <JMcQuilkin@joplinpubliclibrary.org>
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Subject: stumper-witches travel
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Patron does not know author or title, but here is the information we =
have. Chapter book read in 1986 (thought to be new then), 2 children a =
boy and a girl (named kit?) live next door to a witch. The witch uses a =
gold coin to travel to a magical land where a flying skeleton chases =
them. We have looked in What do children read next? Best Books for =
Children, Amazon.com, and books in print. Any ideas? Thanks in =
advance. Send answers to jmcquilkin@joplinpubliclibrary.org
Jennifer
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From: "BJ quinlan" <BJQUINLAN@mail.open.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper
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I am looking for a fractured fairy tale for "Elves and the Shoemaker."
I don't know if one exists or not. I have searched several Internet
databases and haven't found anything, but searching is hard as I don't
have a title or even how it might have been fractured. Please respond
to Diane Adams at dadams@ci.monmouth.or.us.
Thank you.
Diane Adams
Youth Services Librarian
Monmouth Public Library, OR.
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From: Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Boy down a hole
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:29:59 CDT
A patron was at one of our branches today, and they forwarded this
question on to us. The patron remembers reading a book when she was a
child (about 20+ years ago) about a little boy who lives on a farm.
Somehow he falls down a hole and is befriended by a
gopher/groundhog/underground dweller who helps him survive the winter.
She thought the title had the word "Hill" in it, that it was a Newbery
winner, and, of course, a chapter book. I sure can't find it! Does
this sound familiar to anyone?
I've done boolean searches of our catalog and Worldcat, and browsed
through ALA's print guide of the Newbery and Caldecott Awards. I
thought it might be an honor book, but no luck there, either. It's NOT
"Amigo" by Byrd Baylor Schweitzer, or "Hole in the Hill" by
Ruth Park.
You all have been so helpful this last week with these Stumpers, and I
really appreciate any help you can give us! (Oh, and please, don't
laugh at me if this is some well-known title, and I'm just too dense to
recognize it! ;) )
TIA,
Tonya Cross
Reference Assistant
Main Library Children's Room
Dayton Metro Library
Dayton, OH
chi_tonya@dayton.lib.oh.us
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From: "Monica Anderson" <m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: woman who can knit everything
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:30:17 CDT
Hello Pubyac'ers!
I need your help with a stumper. A woman is looking for a story that
she read to her daughter, who is now 19. It's a picture book at
least 10 years old about a woman who gets magical yarn and can knit
everything she needs, including a house. The woman recalls it having
an Eastern European folktale/fairy tale flavor (and a blue cover).
We've searched our Dynix catalog, looked through all our Baba Yaga
and Strega Nona books, and checked "The Storyteller's Sourcebook."
Does this description ring any bells? Please e-mail your suggestions
to me directly.
Thanks!
Monica Anderson
Youth Services Librarian
Grace A. Dow Memorial Library
Midland, Michigan
m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us
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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
To: OPLINLIST@EPICURUS.OPLIN.LIB.OH.US,
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Subject: Baseball/Football flannelboard story...
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:30:34 CDT
Hi!
I have a storytime on ball games scheduled for next week (starting Monday).
I am in great shape, except that I would LOVE to have a flannelboard story
on baseball, football, or some type of ball game to share with the kids in
addition to what I have planned.
I have come up empty on my searching thru resources here and have done some
searching on the net and haven't met with much success.
If you have a great story and wouldn't mind sharing story and patterns,
please fax them to me at 419-562-7437.
Thanks!!!
Barbara Scott
Children's Librarian, Bucyrus Public Library
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From: Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Answer to Golden Book Stumper
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Many thanks to Susanne Croghan and Molly Warren, who knew that the name of
this story was "The Noises and Mr. Flibberty-Jib" by Gertrude
Crampton! The
patron was grateful for the reassurance that she didn't hallucinate the
story, and I've learned that we should probably look in to adding more
Golden Books to our collection!
I just love this list! :)
Tonya Cross
Reference Assistant
Main Library Children's Room
Dayton Metro Library
Dayton, OH
chi_tonya@dayton.lib.oh.us
Tonya Cross wrote:
> I'm back again, with another "Golden Book" related stumper.
A patron
> called today, and was trying to find out the name of a book she
> remembers from childhood. (I'm not sure of her age.) She thinks
the
> book was a golden book about a married couple. The wife knitted all
the
> time, and the sound of the knitting needles gave the husband a
> headache. The wife tells the man that if he will wear the mittens(?)
> she made for him, his headache will get better. He does what she says
> (good husband ;) ), and his headache goes away.
>
>
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From: Lorie O'Donnell <Lodonnell@midyork.org>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>,
Subject: Re: Celebration of 50 years...
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For our library's 100th I had a t-shirt design contest and activity table.
First the contest - Find a local distributor who will print the shirts for
you cheaply. Have the contest and have the staff pick the winning design.
The winner gets a free shirt (and maybe a book?). The rest of the shirts
are for sale. It worked splendidly here, and I used the shirts as summer
reading prizes too.
The activity table - Get a supply of fabric crayons and an iron or two.
Have the kids bring a clean t-shirt. They get to design their own shirt,
or
you can have pages for them to color, trace, etc. Then you iron the design
on the shirt. Really easy and inexpensive.
Lorie
Sharon Castanteen said:
>
> My library is celebrating it's 50th anniversary. Any suggestions for
a
> children's celebration? Performer? Party? Events?
Activities?
> I thank you all in advance.....Sharon
>
>
> Sharon Castanteen
> Director of Children's Services
> River Edge Public Library
> River Edge, NJ 07661
> scastanteen@yahoo.com
>
>
Lorie J. O'Donnell
Children's Librarian
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY 13440
lodonnell@midyork.org
--
The medicine chest of the soul.
Inscription over the door of the Library at Thebes
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From: "Kathleen Odean" <kathleenodean@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: stumper: "somebody, nobody, somebody came"
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I have a stumper request "from many years ago" for a story about two
orphans
and their grandfather who lived in the woods. He had a magic egg that
revealed other worlds to the children. There was a refrain that went
"somebody, nobody, somebody came".
Please send replies to me. Many thanks! kathleenodean@hotmail.com
Kathleen Odean
Author, Great Books for Babies and Toddlers (April 2003)
Great Books for Girls (rev. ed. May 2002)
Great Books for Boys
Great Books about Things Kids Love
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From: Janice Dukes <jpdukes@peachtree-city.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper-House in Country with city moving in
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:31:19 CDT
Hi All,
I have a patron looking for an older book about a house on a hill in the
country and the city gradually moves in on this house and the house ends up
in the middle of the city.
She thinks we have it here at the library but I'm a total blank today.
Any help would be great
Janice
Janice Dukes, MLIS
Youth Services Librarian
Peachtree City Library
201 Willowbend Rd
Peachtree City, Ga 30269
Office Phone: 770-632-4273
Library Phone: 770-631-2520
Fax: 770-631-2522
www.peachtree-city.org/library
<http://www.peachtree-city.org/library>
"If you're not learning while you're earning, you're cheating yourself out
of the better portion of your compensation." - Napoleon
Hill.
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From: Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: banned books
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:38:56 CDT
What is offensive to one person may not be offensive to another. For years
the Robert Munsch book titled I Have to Go stayed in a Branch Manager's
office because she thought that was offensive. I did not find it offensive
at all (Yes, it is finally on the shelf).
And what about those steaming romance paperback we all have? If we got rid
of those our patrons would be up in arms with us.
If I find a pretty explicit one in my YA section, I just shelve it in the
right place and it will pretty much stay there. The one particular book I
am thinking about has stayed on the shelf every since I read it and that
was 3 years ago.
Frances
Tara Mendez wrote:
> Does anyone have thoughts on shelving very explicit books. I cannot see
> myself putting a warning label on the book ( a staff member tried to
> hide it by stuffing it in a drawer :-( ) Anne Rice has quite the
> following in the adult dept and I think if its offensive don't take it
> out. But I might be wrong. Ideas, Comments?
> Tara
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From: "Anita Palladino" <apalladi@ansernet.rcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: reducing hours your library is open???
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:39:09 CDT
Geez, I'm sorry, but I'd collect unemployment before cleaning the library.
Sorry, I'm not a snob but until librarians demand professional treatment it
will never happen. And if your community begins to feel the lack of
librarians, they will act accordingly.
Look at it this way...can you imagine a group of corporate employees faced
with the same decision making this choice? Doctors? Policemen? Not in a
million years because (a) they are male-dominated fields, and (b),they would
not have such disregard for their profession.
Oh, one more thing: I fully respect cleaning staff; so much so that I
question why it was more acceptable to let this person lose a job than a
librarian. Most of the maintenance people I know work long & hard because
they have to..so, you just shifted the economic burden to someone with less
opportunities for employment than yourselves.
[just my opinion, the usual disclaimers apply.]---------- Original
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From: Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:40 CDT
>
>Hi,
>
>Several years ago I worked for a library in a similar situation. One
of
>our solutions was to eliminate the cleaning company. All of us, five
MLS
>carrying librarians and one clerk, took turns cleaning in the hour before
>the library opened each day. This saved a full-time librarian from
losing
>her job (me)! We also all worked circ, reference, etc. and each cut
our
>work week down one hour . Fortunately, we only had to do this for one
year
>as a milleage campaign began as a result and was successful.
>
>Susan
>
>
>--
>
>Susan E. Wizinsky, M.S.L.S.
>Children's Librarian
>Genesee District Library
>Grand Blanc-McFarlen Branch
>515 Perry Road
>Grand Blanc, Michigan 48439
>810-694-5310
>
>
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From: "Micky" <hurdm@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Library cards and divorced parents
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:39:24 CDT
Have the other parent get a library card and check out materials on an adult
card for the child.
Micky Hurd
East Greenbush Community Library
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Robinson" <fcplchildren@yahoo.com>
To: "Pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:39 AM
Subject: Library cards and divorced parents
> I am wondering how other libraries handle this
> problem. If a child lives with a parent who keeps (for
> safekeeping purposes) the child's library card, then
> how do you handle the situation when the other parent
> wants to get another card for the child? Our library
> has a policy of a patron having only one active
> library card at a time and the library card must be
> presented when checking out materials. We understand
> this is a problem for those parents and especially for
> the children, but how do you handle limits on some
> materials, overdues and fines if the child has two
> library cards?
>
> Thanks!
> Marilyn Robinson
> Fayette County Public Library
> Connersville, IN 47331
> fcplchildren@yahoo.com
>
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From: "HOW Rebecca Smith" <howrs@llcoop.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Library treasure hunt
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:39:41 CDT
HI Greg,
I did something like this for a Lord of the Rings party that I did with my
Teens and I would have had a hard time coming up with clues too except that
I found some online that I could adjust to fit my library. If you ever need
to have something like that please just let me know and I will get them to
you. I too am looking for something that I can use for classes or
homeschoolers that come in for a library tour. I would like to ask if you
could please post your responses to the list.
Thank You so much in Advance:)
Becca Smith
Youth Services
Reynolds Township Library
215 E Edgerton St
Howard City, MI 49329
(231)937-5575
howrs@llcoop.org
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From: Greg Ullman <gullman@ci.covina.ca.us>
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Subject: Library treasure hunt
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> Dear PUBYAC,
> I asked a few weeks ago whether anyone had put on a
"treasure
> hunt" in which participants are given a clue which leads them to a
> location in the library, where they find another clue posted which
> leads them somewhere else in the library, and so on. Those who find
> all the clues would be given a small prize. The clues would be in
> the form of a puzzle, a riddle, or a simple research question,
> preferably in rhyme. A couple people answered that they had done
> treasure hunts like this, but I was looking for sample clues that I
> could use (I've got writer's block when it comes to writing poetry.)
> I'd like to have about 30 questions so that I can have three
> possible paths of 10 questions each, (two for grade school students,
> one for Young Adults) so that they can't just follow each other
> around the library. And the clues should be simple enough for
> nearly all of them to solve on their own so that it doesn't put a
> burden on the library staff. Thanks for your help, -- Greg Ullman
> Covina Public Library (Calif.)
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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: banned books
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Absolutely not! Where do labels end? Can you possibly censor everything in
your library? Also, when a patron comes to the desk with a book, how will it
make them feel to hand the librarian a sticker that denotes the material
they are taking home as obscene or explicit? Some people might view The
Grapes of Wrath as obscene based on a particular scene at the end, do you
put a sticker on Steinbeck too? Is violence explicit or just sexuality? Wow,
I never thought we would be considering warning labels on books - are we
going to come up with a rating system next? Disney - G, Series of
Unfortunate Events - PG-13, Francesca Lia Block - R, etc.? As for a staff
member hiding books, I am thankful not to be a director because that would
be a difficult address to make. Good luck, Melissa MacLeod
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From: "Vasilik, Patricia" <vasilik@palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Susan -- I think you brought up some good points. I absolutely agree with
supporting parental rights. And I think it is important for parents to
remember that the public library is not an enclosed environment like a
school. The library I work for has a pamphlet that we have developed for
parents about keeping their child safe in the library.
While I'm all for parents deciding for their own children, what I
oppose is a parent deciding for my child, or for all children. And that is
just what some of very vocal groups try to do. I would never undermine the
parent who doesn't want their child to use the Internet - filtered or not -
or who doesn't allow their child to read books they feel are undermining
values they are teaching, whether I agree with those values or not.
However, I would campaign long and loudly against the parent who
wants all children to be restricted from access to a book or to computer
sources. Just as I try to be as vocal about leaving children without
supervision for any period of time in the public library.
Although given the number of middle school kids who use the library
as a social club after school every day, there are some days (just
some!)when no one under 16 without a parents sounds good! :)
Pat Vasilik
Children's Coordinator
Clifton Public Library
Clifton, NJ
vasilik@palsplus.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Wizinsky [mailto:swizinsk@gfn.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:40 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Weird Rumor
Hi All,
I find the discussion about this "rumor" interesting. So, I
guess
I'll step up on my soap box once before my maternity leave begins.
(Maybe I'm hormonally driven, forgive me if I offend.)
First of all, I'm sure many of us have found ourselves in predicaments with
unsupervised kids. We should not and cannot be responsible for
supervising kids of any age. Many parents believe that is part of our
job. Parents need to be aware, on the most basic level, libraries, like
any other public places are not necessarily "safe places" to leave
kids.
Let's be honest, some of our visitors may be of questionable character
and yes, that may include a child molestor or terrorist.
Regarding our collections: Personally, I believe parents should consider
the content of the materials in the library. We preach the doctrine of
anti-censorship
as a profession and so we should. However, we are primarily in the
business of information.
Parents have a right and responsiblity to raise their children according
to their value system. We should help to support that freedom. If a
patron asks me to recommend a "clean" book for a child, I suggest that
they read the title, as I am not qualified to make a personal parental
judgement for someone else. That too is suggesting a form of parental
supervision.
Regarding internet use in libraries: Sure, most of it is pretty innocent.
However, parents need to be aware that filters are an imperfect tool. We
have filters
at my library and I can't tell you how many nights while shutting down our
computers I
have had to close up pornographic sites that have slipped through the
filters.
I guess I am tired of hearing people in my profession of 14 years make
negative statements about groups, particularly religious, who inform
parents about the content of some of the materials in our facilities. Why
is it so wrong to recommend to concerned parents that they need to pay
attention to their children's use of the library?
Okay, I admit, I'm conservative and Christian but I don't like Dr.
Laura. I do think, however, we, as a profession need to let conservative
groups know that we can help support their information needs as well as
liberal groups.
We are not an evil place!
Sincerely,
Susan
38 weeks pregnant and it is 90 outside!
--
Susan E. Wizinsky, M.S.L.S.
Children's Librarian
Genesee District Library
Grand Blanc-McFarlen Branch
515 Perry Road
Grand Blanc, Michigan 48439
810-694-5310
I am only speaking for myself when I express my views!
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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:40:13 CDT
truly...i don't understand how some parents can just
leave their kids. i don't know how much of it is false
sense of security vs. blind ignorance but even
sometimes after i tell parents "it's no different than
leaving them at walmart, we are very much like an
extention of the public sidewalk and cannot be
responsible for their behavior or safety" they still
say "oh they'll be fine." sometimes i'd like to tell
them that we have a known sex offender that frequents
our branch at least once a week but i'm also afraid
that will scare them out of coming to the library at
all. i want them here, i just want them to be
responsible!
~j.
--- karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Also, maybe a couple of months ago, there was a
> terrible story in the papers about a boy who was
> lured
> out of a New Jersey library. Later his body was
> found
> in a nearby ditch. (I remember that I was shocked
> when I read the story because he was taken from a
> library).Parents might have a false sense of
> security
> that the library is a safe place & we hope it is,
> but
> libraries are public buildings and parents always
> have
> to watch out for their children's safety.
>
=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library
"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is
that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy
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From: "Ginny McLain" <mclain@plsinfo.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Central Service Desk-- looking for feedback
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:40:23 CDT
Dear PUBYACers,
Our community (population of 21,000) is in the beginning stages of =
construction for a new 26,000 square foot library. Plans are for a =
separate Children's Area which will be approximately 5,200 square feet. =
The plan also calls for one central service desk-- with Adult Services =
and Children's Services staff seated in one location. This desk will be =
located in the center of the new building-- which will be located =
approximately 50 feet from the Children's Room portal and 100 feet from =
the center of the Children's Area, with no visual sight lines into the =
Children's Room. So, for the most part, the Children's Room will be =
uncovered the bulk of time, except when we have "roving staff" who
will =
be made available to assist patrons.
I'm looking for feedback from other libraries that may have a similar =
set-up.
What works? What doesn't? Would you recommend a Central Service Desk to =
other libraries?
You can respond to me directly and I can compile responses for the =
group-- if there is interest.
Ginny McLain
Children's Librarian
Millbrae Library
1 Library Avenue
Millbrae, CA 94030
mclain@plsinfo.org
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From: "Karen Holz" <easternlibrary@smithville.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Lewis & Clark
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:40:32 CDT
Hi,
I'll looking at doing a multigenerational, across the countywide reading =
theme this year on Lewis and Clark. What I have in mind is pick one =
fiction and one non-fiction book about them or their travels for =
different age groups: such as K through 3rd, 4th through 6th, 7th =
through 9th, 10th through adult. Having a discussion groups formed =
around them and activities to go with the historical, cultural, and =
scientific aspects of their voyage. I've gone to a workshop on
using =
Lewis and Clark in the classroom and am exploring other sources. What I =
need to know if anyone has tried something like this before and if there =
might be grants that I could write to for this type of activity.
Thanks for the input.
Karen Holz
easternlibrary@smithville.net
easternlibrary
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From: Jennifer Fay <j_fay84103@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Interfile holiday books? What do you think?
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:40:41 CDT
I just moved to a new library that has all it's children's holiday books in
storage. I know that I want them out, but I don't know if I should
interfile them or have them separated. I have always seen them in a
separate section (at least the picture books), but some of my colleagues
think I should interfile them. Does anyone have any experience with
interfiled holiday books that would help me decide what to do? I am
leaning
toward having a separate section, but don't want to dismiss the interfiling
idea out-of-hand --especially when trying to fit in at a new job ;)
Any thoughts? Please email directly back to me, and I will compile the
answers for PUBYAC.
Thanks,
Jennifer Fay
Riverton Library
Riverton, UT
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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: banned books
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:40:52 CDT
I don't label the books--my hope is that people who
are adult enough to read from the adult section are
adult enough to simply stop reading the book and
return it if it is too explicit.
Cathryn
Webster (NH) Free Public Library
> Does anyone have thoughts on shelving very explicit
> books. I cannot see
> myself putting a warning label on the book ( a staff
> member tried to
> hide it by stuffing it in a drawer :-( ) Anne Rice
> has quite the
> following in the adult dept and I think if its
> offensive don't take it
> out. But I might be wrong. Ideas, Comments?
> Tara
>
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From: N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:41:04 CDT
I have to admit that I feel lucky that we have a very
strict unattended children policy. I am still
astounded that parents can think they can leave their
toddlers in our room alone while they go outside
looking for books. I lost track of the times I had a
child crying and looking for their Mom or Dad.
We have the policy posted in the library as well have
sheets of it to hand out when necessary. Part of our
policy states that if the library is closing and the
child is alone, the police are called. Luckily, in my
5 years here, we've only done it once as far as I
know. Then again, I think even once is too much. If
anyone wants to know the particulars of the policy,
feel free to e-mail me off list.
Natalie
=====
Natalie Korsavidis
Youth Services Librarian
Farmingdale Public Library
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From: Sallywilms@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Reducing library hours ideas--Thanks!!!
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:41:20 CDT
Once again, PUBYAC awes and astonishes me. I had posted this past week
asking for ideas of how y'all handled shortening the hours your libraries
were
opened. (We are living in "interesting times", financially
speaking, in
our
town....)
Literally dozens of you took the time to respond to me off-line, and we are
so grateful for the information you shared so graciously. II have passed
every
scrap of it to my director. I've mentioned PUBYAC to my director any
number
of times over the years, and now she knows first hand why I like it
so
much.
I have no idea of what we are going to be doing. If she has made a
decision
I certainly don't know what it is yet. I will keep you posted on further
developments.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your responses. They were all deeply
appreciated.
Sally Williams
W.T. Bland Public Library
1995 North Donnelly St.
Mount Dora, FL 32757
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From: Susan Smith <smith_s_l@sbcglobal.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:41:32 CDT
The picturebooks in the elementary school libraries are just labeled with an
"E"--which the librarians explain to the kids stands for
"Everyone" or
Everybody."
Susan Smith
Arlington, TX
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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Easy readers
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I don't really see much similarity between easy readers (from Hop on Pop to
Nate the Great) and picture books like What Kind of Baby-Sitter is This and
Click Clack Moo: Cows That Type. We have them in two different sections.
Bonita
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From: "Pamela Stamper" <pstamper@nols.org>
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Subject: RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:42:04 CDT
Our teachers have suggested that instead of "Easy Fiction" we consider
"Everybody Books".
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Neal [mailto:lizalouneal@hotmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:03 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
I have long wanted to change the EASY designation to PICTURE BOOK. It
seems so much more appropriate. These books are not necessarily Easy at
all, yet they all have pictures (illustrations) which are as important
as the text. Parents equate "easy" with "easy to read" . So
I say, Go
for it!
>From: "Deborah Brightwell" <DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
>Subject: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
>Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:41 CDT
>
>Friends: Pardons if this as been discussed before but my Director
is=20
>interested in calling our "Easy" books by something else than
"Easy."=20
>We are considering "Picture Books." Are there libraries out
there that
>call their Easys by "Picture Books?" Or perhaps by something
else=20
>altogether? I'll let everyone know what most said if there is any=20
>interest. Email me directly at dbright@ci.coppell.tx.us
Thanks in=20
>advance! You guys always help me out!
>
>Debbie Brightwell
>Youth Services Librarian/Supervisor
>Coppell Public Library
>Coppell, Texas
>
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From: "Cindy Rider" <crider@vigo.lib.in.us>
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Subject: Re: Library cards and divorced parents
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:42:17 CDT
Marilyn,
We stay out of it. The custodial parent may have reasons why he/she =
doesn't want the other parent to have the card, and that is their =
perogative. Why not just have the noncustodial parent get a card and check =
out things for the child?
Cindy Rider
Vigo Co. Public Library
Terre Haute, IN
crider@vigo.lib.in.us
<<< fcplchildren@yahoo.com
6/27 12:08a >>>
I am wondering how other libraries handle this
problem. If a child lives with a parent who keeps (for
safekeeping purposes) the child's library card, then
how do you handle the situation when the other parent
wants to get another card for the child? Our library
has a policy of a patron having only one active
library card at a time and the library card must be
presented when checking out materials. We understand
this is a problem for those parents and especially for
the children, but how do you handle limits on some
materials, overdues and fines if the child has two
library cards?
Thanks!
Marilyn Robinson
Fayette County Public Library
Connersville, IN 47331
fcplchildren@yahoo.com
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From: "Cindy Rider" <crider@vigo.lib.in.us>
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Subject: Re: banned books
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We have a few such books in the adult collection, like Joy of Sex and =
Madonna's Sex Book, that we replace on the shelf with a wooden block. The =
patron may take the block to the reference desk to get the book. This is =
done not because of the explicit illustrations themselves, but because =
these books are quickly stolen.
Cindy Rider
Vigo Co. Public Library
Terre Haute, IN
crider@vigo.lib.in.us
<<< TaraM@mail2tara.com
6/27 12:37a >>>
Does anyone have thoughts on shelving very explicit books. I cannot see
myself putting a warning label on the book ( a staff member tried to
hide it by stuffing it in a drawer :-( ) Anne Rice has quite the
following in the adult dept and I think if its offensive don't take it
out. But I might be wrong. Ideas, Comments?
Tara=20
=20
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From: Cassie Wilson <cwilson2@woh.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:42:42 CDT
But "Easy" books usually refers to beginning readers with few and easy
words. Picture books refers to books in which pictures play a major
role in telling the story. One can hardly classify picture books in
general as "Easy" because many, many of them are not.
I like the suggestion that came in the last time we discussed this such
as disignating the "easy" readers as "beginning readers" or
"early
readers" or something else. We call ours "Easy" because
that is what
"we've always done" (as if our patrons were too stupid to be able to
make a change) and that is what the Demco sticker says. Does Demco have
a suggestion box, by the way?
Cassie Wilson
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