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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1157


    PUBYAC Digest 1157

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) birthday party help
by Theresa Stoner <t.stoner@gomail.sjcpl.lib.in.us>
  2) Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
by "Babbs" <buddydog1us@earthlink.net>
  3) Re: Segregated picture books
by Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
  4) RE: Segregated picture books
by "Michele Farley" <mfarley@brownsburg.lib.in.us>
  5) infant storytime
by Jacquie Sewell <jjsewell416@yahoo.com>
  6) Re: Infant story time
by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
  7) dog program in library
by "Hannah Owen" <HOwen@ci.hickory.nc.us>
  8) Stumper-tiny Dutch boy flys on goose
by "Rebecca Cohen" <storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
  9) Stumper - Teen girl has tall friend who ends up modeling
by Wanda Peterson <wandasway2003@yahoo.com>
 10) Re: Stumper: War with rocks--answer
by "Allison J. Enger" <aenger@monroe.lib.mi.us>
 11) Re: Segregated picture books
by "Theresa Maturevich" <theresam@ocln.org>
 12) stumper--patchwork princess
by "Rebecca Higgerson" <rhiggerson@saclibrary.org>
 13) Re: Segregated picture books
by Beth <coughlin@noblenet.org>
 14) Stumper solved
by "Cheryl D." <whirlee@hotmail.com>
 15) Crippled Boy Stumper
by "Shari Haber" <shaber@mcls.org>

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From: Theresa Stoner <t.stoner@gomail.sjcpl.lib.in.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: birthday party help
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:11:22 CDT

Our branch will be celebrating it's 20th anniversary this fall and I am
supposed to help plan the birthday party. Has anyone "out there" done a
library birthday party? If so, what did you do to celebrate? Refreshments?
Music? Special Guests?

Any help you can give would be much much appreciated!

Thanks,

Theresa Stoner
St. Joesph County Public Library, Indiana

Theresa Stoner
Children's Librarian/Asst. Branch Head @ Tutt
t.stoner@sjcpl.org
282-4638

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From: "Babbs" <buddydog1us@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:11:30 CDT

The following has nearly eliminated the horrific parenting I've observed:

- tell the parent they may not leave a child alone. If the parent walks away
anyhow, tell them you'll have to call the police if they "choose to abandon
their child." Half of the time, this solves it. The other half, the parent
will throw a fit and say they are not "abandoning", they are just going to
the other room, next door, across the street, etc. In this case, call 911.
Never threaten to call 911 and not do it (and remember, you have already
told the parent you will call the police if they walk away). The police will
come and explain the definition and legal implications of child neglect to
the parent. If the parent has left the building, the child will be taken to
the police station. The child is usually scared initially and may start to
cry, but the police are well trained in comforting frightened children. It
is much better for little Johnny to have a wee bit of a shock than it is for
him to be kidnapped or worse. The parent and child may leave before the
police show up. If this happens, speak with the police officer about what
happened where other people can overhear. If the first parent didn't get the
message, the remaining ones will.

-posts signs that say "Do not leave children or other valuables unattended"
and "Criminals use libraries too, for your safety do not leave children or
other belongings unattended."  A picture of a purse or wallet on the signs
helps, as sadly many people are more concerned about losing their money than
their child. It seems they understand robbery could happen to them, but
think they are immune from (immune to?) child kidnapping/molestation. And
many parents mistakingly believe that the librarian will know where their
child is at all times.

Incidently, the police are OVERJOYED to be informed of this type of child
neglect.  911 will come happily and quickly, even if mom is in the building.
911 responds to child abuse and neglect calls as a first priority.

This is because the vast majority of child abuse and neglect goes
unreported. And parents are usually on their best behavior in public; the
behavior at home is far worse than anything you'll witness. This is straight
from the mouths of the NYPD. As a librarian, I'll even verify that
information with the National Clearinghouse on Family Violence.

The children thank you!

And I would love to hear other success stories of eliminating this sad
problem we all see.

  ·.·´¨ ¨))  -:¦:-
       ¸.·´  .·´¨¨))
      Babbs
   ((¸¸.·´  ..·´
     -:¦:-  ((¸¸ ·.·

Spelling and grammar may or may not be those of proper English. :-)

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From: Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Segregated picture books
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:11:39 CDT

We put everything out.  If parents have a concern we
tell them that it is not our job to restrict access to
materials.

Susan Engelmann
North Kansas City Public Library
--- Theresa Maturevich <theresam@ocln.org> wrote:
> Hi all-
> Does anyone keep picture books of a sensitive or
> controversial
> nature in a separate section, such as a parent's
> shelf? If so, what
> topics do those books deal with? We currently have a
> parent's
> section with various non-fiction titles on parenting
> and 3 lonely little
> picture books that were pulled from the collection
> year's ago.
> Thanks for your input,
>
> Theresa Maturevich
> Children's Librarian
> Norwell Public Library
> Norwell, MA 02061
> (781) 659-2015
>


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From: "Michele Farley" <mfarley@brownsburg.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Segregated picture books
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:11:47 CDT

Theresa,
We have a parent shelf with books separated into the following sections:
new baby, where do babies come from, puberty, strangers/sexual abuse,
parenting and terrorism. =20
Michele

"I have a new philosophy.  I am only going to dread one day at a time."
- Charlie Brown


-----Original Message-----
From: Theresa Maturevich [mailto:theresam@ocln.org]=20
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:38 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Segregated picture books=20


Hi all-
Does anyone keep picture books of a sensitive or controversial=20
nature in a separate section, such as a parent's shelf? If so, what=20
topics do those books deal with? We currently have a parent's=20
section with various non-fiction titles on parenting and 3 lonely little

picture books that were pulled from the collection year's ago. Thanks
for your input,=20

Theresa Maturevich
Children's Librarian
Norwell Public Library
Norwell, MA 02061
(781) 659-2015

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From: Jacquie Sewell <jjsewell416@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: infant storytime
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:11:56 CDT


Original message:
Hello everyone,

Does anyone have suggestions for a infant storytime? Our audience is
getting younger and younger and I need to adapt.

Thanks in advance,
Wanda

REPLY:
I caught the end of a session at ALA called from Cradle to Classroom. It was
geared toward pre-school storytimes. The presenters had authored the book
The Big Book of Stories, Songs, and Sing Alongs  (Stefanie Drennan, Roberta
Thompson, and Beth Maddigan.  Libraries Unlimited. Available online at
www.lu.com)   The presenter (I think it was Stefanie) was great with lots of
fun ideas so I think the book will be a great resource as well.

Hope this helps,
Jacquie Sewell





Jacquie

"This is the day that the Lord has made. I will rejoice and be glad in it."

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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
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Subject: Re: Infant story time
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>>> wjones98@hotmail.com 07/10/03 17:40 PM >>>
Hello everyone,
Does anyone have suggestions for a infant storytime? Our audience is =
getting younger and younger and I need to adapt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We are having the same situation.  We are planning to divide our toddler =
time into 2 groups. The newer group will be for babies aged 0-18 mos.  I =
know there was a thread here awhile ago about baby storytimes, but that =
was before we decided to split the group. If anyone has saved that =
information, I'd be most grateful if someone could email some ideas to me!
Thanks, Kim
Kim E. Dolce
Children's Librarian
Port Orange Regional Library
Port Orange, FL  32129
kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us

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From: "Hannah Owen" <HOwen@ci.hickory.nc.us>
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Subject: dog program in library
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:12:15 CDT


We recently had a very successful dog program.  It was sponsored by our =
local chapter of the American Kennel Club.  The presenters emphasized =
safety (how to approach a dog safely, how to pet a dog you don't know, =
what to do if a strange dog threatens you), the responsibility of caring =
for a pet, and how to choose a dog that is suitable for you.  The =
presenters brought a standard poodle, a Basenji, a border terrier, and a =
golden retriever.  The children were allowed to approach the dogs and =
pet them, give them treats, etc.  The dogs and owners demonstrated some =
obedience maneuvers.  It was wonderful.  Two of the members I knew very =
well-one being the owner of the kennel where I board my dog and the =
other is my next door neighbor, but I will bet you have a club chapter =
near you if you don't have these personal contacts.  These dogs were all =
very thoroughly obedience trained.  I would never just bring random dogs =
to the library.  It would be a big safety issue.  These dogs were much =
better behaved than many of the children who come to the library!=20

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From: "Rebecca Cohen" <storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper-tiny Dutch boy flys on goose
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:03 CDT

Dear Collective Brain,

A patron seeks a book from his childhood, 1940's, about a naughty Dutch boy
who catches little people in a net, then is made little because he is mean
to them.  He then has adventures on a goose who flies him many places.

I've searched OCLC, Children's Catalog, A to Zoo, and done keyword searches
of NYPL and Multnomah County catalogs.

Thank you so much for your help.

Rebecca Cohen
storyweaver@newportlibrary.org

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From: Wanda Peterson <wandasway2003@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - Teen girl has tall friend who ends up modeling
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:10 CDT


This stumper is for me.  It is a book I read when I was about eleven years
old, in the late 1970's, but it may have been an older book from the 50's or
60's.  The main character is a teenage girl with several close friends, each
of whom thinks she has her own particular beauty problem.  One of them is
very tall and thinks no boy will ever like her because of it.  Toward the
end of the book, the main character is surprised when she opens a newspaper
or magazine and finds that her tall friend has modeled for some photos in
it, alongside a boy even taller than herself.  This is not a major part of
the plot, but it is all I can remember.  It may or may not be part of a
series.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

W. P.
Maine

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From: "Allison J. Enger" <aenger@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Stumper: War with rocks--answer
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:19 CDT

Hello,


I have had several replies to my "war with rocks" stumper.  The original
post follows bellow.

The suggestions have been for "Bang, Bang You're Dead" by Louise Fitzhugh
and "Lord of the Flies" by William Golding.  We are waiting for the
Fitzhugh book to come through ILL.

Thank you to Becky, Johanna, and Robbin for their help.

Allison
Allison J. Enger, MSLIS
Community Librarian
Dundee Branch Library
(734) 529-3310 phone/fax
aenger@monroe.lib.mi.us

> Hello,
>
> I have a patron looking for a children's book he read probably in the
> early 70s.  It is about some children who have a war and use rocks as
> their weapons.  He remembers there were black and white illustrations
> and that the children wore elaborate war costumes/uniforms.
>
> Any help or ideas are appreciated.
>
> Thanks you,
>
> Allison
> Allison J. Enger, MSLIS
> Community Librarian
> Dundee Branch Library
> (734) 529-3310 phone/fax
> aenger@monroe.lib.mi.us



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From: "Theresa Maturevich" <theresam@ocln.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Segregated picture books
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:27 CDT

In response to Rebecca's question, the 3 books all deal with
homosexuality: Heather has 2 Mommies, Daddy's Roommate, and
Uncle What-is-it is Coming to Visit. My understanding is that they
were originally placed on the parent's shelf because it was felt that
it was best for parents to read these books with their children. (I
happened long before I got here). I have no problem with the idea
that some picture books are best kept on the parent's shelf, but to
just keep these 3 out seems biased to me. So, I'm trying to
determine if I should interfile them with the rest of the picture books
or create a real area for picture books with sensitive issues, like
death, divorce, etc. We have very few complaints about the picture
books as is, but I'm wondering if the public will find it more useful to
have these in one area rather than intersperesed with the ret of the
collection. And if I could tack on one more category: we have
several picture books that deal with September 11th. Where are
folks putting those?
Thanks for all your helpful input.
Theresa

Theresa Maturevich
Children's Librarian
Norwell Public Library
Norwell, MA 02061
(781) 659-2015

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From: "Rebecca Higgerson" <rhiggerson@saclibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper--patchwork princess
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:36 CDT


About 20 years ago, a patron read a story about a "Patchwork Princess."
She thinks it is a children's story, and probably a picture book, with
illustrations and text.  The story is about a king of a country who was
poor, and his daughter who made a ball gown out of a patchwork quilt
they owned.

We have already checked:

* Miami (OH) picture book database=20
* Sacramento Public Library catalog (received several hits, but
patron confirmed they were not the story she was looking for.)=20
* Novelist database=20
* SPL Youth Services Librarians=20
* A to Zoo (several subject keywords)

Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you!


Rebecca Higgerson, MLIS
Youth Services Librarian
Sacramento Public Library
828 I Street
Sacramento CA 95814
(916) 264-2845 x1
(916) 264-2854 (fax)

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From: Beth <coughlin@noblenet.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Segregated picture books
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:45 CDT

We keep books on new babies, adoption, death, potty training, divorce and
other "sensitive" subjects in our parenting shelf.  It makes it much easier
when parents need picture books on those topics.  They are still located
right near the regular picture books, and so easily accessible to anyone.
Beth Coughlin, Children's Librarian
Swampscott Public Library
coughlin@noblenet.org

Theresa Maturevich wrote:

> Hi all-
> Does anyone keep picture books of a sensitive or controversial
> nature in a separate section, such as a parent's shelf? If so, what
> topics do those books deal with? We currently have a parent's
> section with various non-fiction titles on parenting and 3 lonely little
> picture books that were pulled from the collection year's ago.
> Thanks for your input,
>
> Theresa Maturevich
> Children's Librarian
> Norwell Public Library
> Norwell, MA 02061
> (781) 659-2015

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From: "Cheryl D." <whirlee@hotmail.com>
To: goodnightmoon-list@goodnightmoon.connix.com
Subject: Stumper solved
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:52 CDT


>I have a patron looking for an alphabet book her son fell in love with
>while on vacation in Centerville, MA.  It takes place on a sailboat and the
>letters ride on the boat.  She remembers the letter  E is is "silent" and
>doesn't speak.  Also, the cover has the letter B as a sail.  Any bells
>ringing?


Hi!

The answer to my question is "Alphaboat" by Chesworth.  Thanks a bunch to
all those considerate enough to respond.  I have ordered a copy for my
library.  Can't wait to see it with my own eyes!

Cheryl
Canton (CT) PL

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From: "Shari Haber" <shaber@mcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Crippled Boy Stumper
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:38:59 CDT

An elderly patron is trying to remember the title of a book that she
read in England in the '30s. (She was 11 years old.) The story deals
with a crippled/disabled boy who is held "captive" in a house that is
surrounded by a large, dense hedge. He is eventually able to escape by
breaking off twigs from the hedge one by one.

I'm just spinning my wheels here, so any pertinent information will be
greatly appreciated. TIA.

Shari Haber
MCLS Reference Center
shaber@mcls.org

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