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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1159
PUBYAC Digest 1159
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) RE: best books
by "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
2) Preschool Storyhour Craft with a Flyswatter
by C6329@aol.com
3) Thank You
by "SHIRLEY CREAGER" <s.creager@wrlsweb.org>
4) Re: Infant story time
by Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>
5) Stumper--boy goes to dog heaven, "Joe Young" in title?
by Kate Hastings <kborchers@worthingtonlibraries.org>
6) Re: harvest activities
by "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
7) Length of Preschool Storytimes
by Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
8) Re: Unattended Children!
by REDOAT@aol.com
9) Re: Dog program
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
10) Use of 911 - was "Weird Rumors..."
by "Tomczak, Justine" <tomczak@palsplus.org>
11) Re: Segregated picture books
by "Nicole Reader" <Nicole.Reader@ci.benicia.ca.us>
12) Re: harvest activities
by Terry Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
13) Internet access for children
by OdonLibrarian@aol.com
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From: "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: best books
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:05 CDT
And have you considered combing past December issues of SLJ for their =
"Best Books" list?
Beverly Bixler
bbixler@sanantonio.gov
San Antonio Public Library, TX=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Marta Kwitkowsky [mailto:kwitkowm@libcoop.net]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 11:50 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: best books
Have you looked at ALA' s wbsite?
Marta Kwitkowsky
Chesterfield Township Library
Chesterfield, MI
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From: C6329@aol.com
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Preschool Storyhour Craft with a Flyswatter
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:13 CDT
I have checked several sources for preschool storyhours which would use a
flyswatter as the craft. The only crafts I can find entail painting.
I am
trying to find a craft using a flyswatter that will not entail painting.
Does any one know of a good craft for this idea?
Also, since I'm posting, if any one knows of any books that include a fly, I
would appreciate your posting that as well.
Thank you.
Carole Petro
Frankfort Public Library
Frankfort, IL
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From: "SHIRLEY CREAGER" <s.creager@wrlsweb.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thank You
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:22 CDT
I would like to thank all librarians who sent suggestions on how to cope =
with the emergency closing of a library building due to structural =
problems. Our upstairs was sagging and the city said the building was =
unsafe. We have a 100 year old Carnegie Library. We discovered that
=
our upstairs was only built to hold 30 pounds per square foot (libraries =
should be built to hold 150 pounds per square foot). It was a month
=
long struggle to find an appropriate location within our small (4900 =
pop) rural town. The school district donated a building with two =
classrooms, a kitchen, and workshop for the summer. With the help of =
many volunteers, we moved all fiction, audio, video, and selected =
non-fiction to the new location. Repairs have been started and we are =
looking forward to returning to our library by the end of August. =
Again, thanks to all who offered suggestions.
Shirley Creager, Director of Youth Services,
McIntosh Memorial Library
118 E. Jefferson,
Viroqua, WI 54665
608-637-7151 Ext. 4
608-637-8608 FAX
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From: Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Infant story time
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:32 CDT
Hi,
I really LOVE my Wee Ones. It's a Storytime for 8-24
mos. I start with a short greeting that I sing (babies
love singing) I read a book (books that you can add
noises to work beautifully - ie - farm animals, wind
blowing, birds whistling etc. Then we do some light
"bounces" with baby on laps, some quick, very simple
fingerplays and another book. A few more bounces and
rhymes (Mother Goose, etc) and then what I call a
"lovie" (something that ends with hugs and kisses) I
close with another song and we bring out a box of
board books and foam blocks (purchased from Lakeshore)
and we listen to music, talk and read. It's a really
fun time for everyone and always makes my day.Every
week is different and the babies are wonderful.
Linda Ernst has two excellent books for this age:
Lapsit Servicess for the Very Young and Lapsit
Services for the Very Young II.
HTH and have fun!
Susan
--- Wanda Jones <wjones98@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for a infant storytime?
> Our audience is
> getting younger and younger and I need to adapt.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Wanda
>
>
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From: Kate Hastings <kborchers@worthingtonlibraries.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper--boy goes to dog heaven, "Joe Young" in title?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:40 CDT
A patron inquired about a book that she checked out at our library in the
1960s. She said it was an old book back then-- so I'm guessing this book
was probably published in the 1940s or earlier. She thinks "Joe
Young" or
"Young Joe" is in the title. The part she remembers about this
book is that
a boy's dog is stoned to death by other children. Then he follows his dog
to dog heaven where they play. It was a red book. That is all I have
to go
on.
I looked through World Cat and came up with a title called Young Joe and
Other Boys-- Published in 1895. I couldn't find a description this title.
That was all I could come up with.
The patron was also asking for a website she could go to ask about stumpers.
Does anyone know about one of these that isn't PUBYAC?
Thanks for your help!
Kate Borchers Hastings
Worthington Libraries
802 High Street, Worthington OH 43085
kborchers@worthingtonlibraries.org
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From: "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>,<llarsen64@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: harvest activities
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:50 CDT
We host an annual Pumpkin Fair at our library that includes Pumpkin
Bowling. Always a huge hit, we use water filled 2 liter bottles for
pins and let the kids bowl away. Haven't had a smashed one yet and we
offer several sizes of pumpkins for the kids. We usually do a cookie
decorating table, too. Everyone loves it and it's a great alternative to
Halloween parties.
Amelia J. Shelley
Manager, Youth and Outreach Services
Laramie County Library System
2800 Central Avenue
Cheyenne, WY 82001
(307)634-3561, ext. 151
ashelley@larm.lib.wy.us
>>> llarsen64@yahoo.com
7/14/03 10:50:10 AM >>>
Hi all,
Hope that you are all having a lovely summer. I am already on to
planning
for the fall. This year instead of hosting a strictly Halloween party,
I'd
like to do a Harvest theme instead. (Is it far too early to be
thinking
about pumpkins?) I have some activities that I'd like to do including
a
pumpkin decorating contest (they bring the pumpkin, we offer materials
to
glue on), apple bobbing (apples strung up from the ceiling that kids
have to
bite without using their hands), apple printing, treat bag decorating
and of
course apple and pumpkin treats. Does anybody out there have any more
fun
games we can play around apples, corn, pumpkins, scarecrows etc...?
I've
found lots of strictly Halloween party info, but less about harvest
time.
Any help would be appreciated!
Laura
Russell Library
Middletown, CT
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From: Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Length of Preschool Storytimes
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:23:59 CDT
Hi Great Brain,
In the past, our preschool storytimes (ages 3-6) have been 45 minutes in
length, but I am thinking of changing them to 30 minutes. I'd
appreciate it if you could take a minute and let me know the length of
your preschool storytimes, and if you are happy with the current length.
Please send directly to me and I'll compile a list.
Thanks a lot,
Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion Nebraska
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us
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From: REDOAT@aol.com
To: RAUSTIN@co.napa.ca.us, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Unattended Children!
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:24:07 CDT
We have an unattended children policy as well! (although it seems like it
doesn't he much because people tend to leave them anyway) This morning at
work,
we had an unattended child in the play area, and the FIRE ALARM went off. We
are currently under construction and sometimes the alarm goes off while the
workers and working on the building. Well, my supervising librarian had to
pick
the child up and walk him outside. We ran into the mother and she was like
oh
thank you! And our librarian said "This is why we don't want children
unattended... you may NOT leave your children unattended" I was so happy
that she spoke
up!
Kristen
Children's Librarian Trainee
(Currently in Masters Program)
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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Dog program
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:24:15 CDT
I think the big message here is that they need to be "trained dogs".
Kids
will get a little wild when they are around animals. We had 2 therapy dogs
come this
summer. They were very well behaved. The group they were with were grades
4-6. And normally well-behaved kids but they got a little pushy all trying
to get close and pet the dogs. We had to keep reminding them to give the
dogs space. The dogs work with Special Education classes at the school and
handled it all very well but my point is that the average well-behaved pet
may still not be ready for a group of excited children crowding in on him.
Just my opinion.
Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us
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From: "Tomczak, Justine" <tomczak@palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Use of 911 - was "Weird Rumors..."
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:24:23 CDT
Children left unattended in a library is a very serious matter, and I
believe that policies are best set by individual libraries so they deal with
and reflect the needs and problems of their community.
However, I think that a distinction should be made between calling the
police to report a non-emergency problem and using "9-1-1". I am
by no
means saying that a small child left alone is not a serious situation. Nor
am I saying that there would never be a situation more complicated in
conjunction with an unattended child that would warrant a "9-1-1"
call. But
"9-1-1" is a very precious resource that, in my personal opinion,
should not
be used if the child is in one room of the library while the parent is in
the other.
If that is the situation, and the parent has already been told that the
child must stay by their side and is still disregarding the rules, then
perhaps a call to the police station, using their non-emergency number, is
in order. Hopefully, the police will still respond. If you suspect
other
things going on as well, perhaps a call to an agency, such as DYFS, would be
more appropriate.
It's really a judgement call, and there are many other instances in which
you might consider calling the police station for help as opposed to
"9-1-1"
-- and vice versa. I would just advocate using "9-1-1"
discriminantly.
These are just my personal opinions, and not necessarily those of my
employer.
Respectfully,
Justine Tomczak, Librarian
Clifton (NJ) Public Library
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From: "Nicole Reader" <Nicole.Reader@ci.benicia.ca.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Segregated picture books
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:24:31 CDT
We shelve picture books that are primarily fiction in the picture book =
section, but books that are primarily nonfiction, even if they have a =
picture-book format, are shelved with others on the same topic under their =
Dewey number in nonfiction. Logical and easy access is our goal, and =
dividing picture books into these two simple categories seems the most =
straightforward. The catalog, a librarian, or a pathfinder can help guide
=
patrons to books on any topic they desire.
This keeps the burden of selecting an appropriate picture book on the =
parent, rather than on the librarian. I would be uncomfortable trying to =
predict which titles might be objectionable to every possible family =
coming through our door. Also, sometimes a picture book is a perfectly =
enjoyable story although it might be on the topic of "death" or
"new =
baby," and I wouldn't want it to languish on a special shelf of
controversi=
al books. =20
I recently had a mother ask, almost apologetically, if there was some way =
we could alert patrons to picture books with less-than-standard topics. =
She had begun to read the picture book "King and King" to her
preschool =
sons, and was surprised by the plot twist. (Didn't she read the title?)
=
So I showed her a trick: read the subject headings assigned in the CIP =
data. She thought this was a great idea!
Some examples of nonfiction picture books vs. fiction picture books:
The new baby at your house / Joanna Cole ; photographs by Margaret Miller =
(nonfic)
Julius, the baby of the world / by Kevin Henkes (fic)
Once upon a potty / written and illustrated by Alona Frankel (nonfic)
On your potty! / Virginia Miller (fic)
When dinosaurs die : a guide to understanding death / Laurie Krasny Brown =
and Marc Brown (nonfic)
The tenth good thing about Barney / Judith Viorst ; illustrated by Erik =
Blegvad (fic)
Divorce / Fred Rogers ; photographs by Jim Judkis (nonfic)
Two homes / Claire Masurel ; illustrated by Kady MacDonald Denton (fic)
I am curious about the kinds of books that are on the special "parent"
=
shelves. Would you put all of my above-mentioned examples there?
Interesting discussion!
N.
- - - - -
Nicole Reader
Head Youth Services Librarian
Benicia (CA) Public Library
www.ci.benicia.ca.us/library.html=20
nicole.reader@ci.benicia.ca.us=20
>In response to Rebecca's question, the 3 books all deal with=20
>homosexuality: Heather has 2 Mommies, Daddy's Roommate, and=20
>Uncle What-is-it is Coming to Visit. My understanding is that they=20
>were originally placed on the parent's shelf because it was felt that=20
>it was best for parents to read these books with their children. (I=20
>happened long before I got here). I have no problem with the idea=20
>that some picture books are best kept on the parent's shelf, but to=20
>just keep these 3 out seems biased to me. So, I'm trying to=20
>determine if I should interfile them with the rest of the picture =
books=20
>or create a real area for picture books with sensitive issues, like=20
>death, divorce, etc. We have very few complaints about the picture=20
>books as is, but I'm wondering if the public will find it more useful =
to=20
>have these in one area rather than intersperesed with the ret of the=20
>collection. And if I could tack on one more category: we have=20
>several picture books that deal with September 11th. Where are=20
>folks putting those?
>Thanks for all your helpful input.=20
>Theresa
>Theresa Maturevich
>Children's Librarian
>Norwell Public Library
>Norwell, MA 02061
>(781) 659-2015
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From: Terry Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: harvest activities
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Hi Laura,
Here a few things I've found popular for a harvest theme
Pass the apple - similar to hot potato
Pumpkin Seed Shooting Game/Contest - have the kids
"shoot" a wet,
slimy pumpkin seed fresh from the inside of the pumpkin to a certain
destination.
What's Inside the Pumpkin - I use a plastic pumpkin (the
trick-or-treat kind) and put a variety of objects inside. Depending on
the age of the group, I might show them the items as I put them in. Each
child gets a turn to put their hand inside and feel an object, trying to
guess what it is.
Dress the Scarecrow - I haven't tried this yet, but we're
going to
do it for our vacation Bible School in a few weeks. Groups of children
compete in dressng a scarecrow the fastest. We will supply hats, flannel
shirts, gloves etc.
There a lot of fun crafts to go with this theme, wasn't sure if you were
looking for crafts or not. Seed collages are always fun. Also, corn cob
painting is a good crarft. The kids espcially like to take the corn off
of the cob (field corn).
Have a fun fall!
Terry Lambert
Bluffton Public Library
Bluffton Ohio
L larsen wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Hope that you are all having a lovely summer. I am already on to
planning
>for the fall. This year instead of hosting a strictly Halloween party,
I'd
>like to do a Harvest theme instead. (Is it far too early to be
thinking
>about pumpkins?) I have some activities that I'd like to do including
a
>pumpkin decorating contest (they bring the pumpkin, we offer materials to
>glue on), apple bobbing (apples strung up from the ceiling that kids have
to
>bite without using their hands), apple printing, treat bag decorating and
of
>course apple and pumpkin treats. Does anybody out there have any more
fun
>games we can play around apples, corn, pumpkins, scarecrows etc...?
I've
>found lots of strictly Halloween party info, but less about harvest time.
>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Laura
>Russell Library
>Middletown, CT
>
>
>
>
>
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From: OdonLibrarian@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Internet access for children
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:24:51 CDT
Hello, all. Our local school system has obtained a grant that involves the
public library -- with little communication with the library beforehand.
(I
believe it comes under the "No Child Left Behind" program.) Part
of the
grant
involves putting laptop computers in the public library with a wireless
connection to the school's network. That way children can access their
school files
(e-mail and other) from the library after school hours. The target
audience
for the grant is 4th- and 6th-graders.
This sounds really good on the surface. The kids can continue working on
their homework after school with full access to the school files and we get
the
benefit of using the school's T-1 connection. Our busy times are when they
need it the least -- when the kids are out of school. It's an obvious
partnership. However, where it gets complicated is that the children will
also have
Internet access on these computers. This brings up a couple of problems.
1. Our current computer policy doesn't allow Internet access for children
under 12. We have computer games to play and educational programs, but no
Internet access for them except with direct adult supervision (the adult
actually
signs up for computer use and must be at the computer at all times).
Implementing the school grant will require a change to that policy.
2. Although we filter, our current situation also allows for the staff to
see what's on the computer screens. There are no additional places in the
library for computers that have that much visibility. Even with that much
visibility AND filtering, we have difficulties enforcing our "no chat"
policy and we
get reports that there are offensive pictures on the computers. These
laptops
would be less visible and we'd be relying entirely on the school's filtering
to limit access to objectionable sites.
I know that privacy and full-access are sacred areas for public libraries,
but this is a small library in a small, conservative, midwestern town and we
probably take more responsibility for protecting children in the library
than
most. The kids who are most likely to be "left behind" are those
whose
parents
let them roam the streets of town unsupervised, and we're actually happy
when
they end up in the library rather than out on the streets. I don't know
that
we have an official policy for how old a child must be to come to the
library
without an adult, but if we do, it's not strongly enforced. If the child
is
old enough to be running around on the streets of our tiny town
unsupervised, we
don't turn them away at the library door. More often, we end up
reluctantly
taking on the supervisory role that the parents should be taking but
aren't --
teaching library etiquette, "bouncing" those involved in squabbles,
etc.
This grant puts us in a difficult position. Do we allow these unsupervised
children unsupervised access to the Internet? Do we limit access to those
children whose parents care enough to come to the library with them and
supervise
their Internet activities? (That sort of defeats the "no child left
behind"
purpose of the grant, doesn't it?) Do we draw up a parental permission
form
that clearly states that we will NOT be supervising the wanderings of their
children on the Internet and let the kids whose parents don't care roam
where they
will?
The school is such a different setting. Access is supervised. Users
are
expected to be doing research, not playing games. The school takes on the
responsibility for supervising children under their care. The public
library does
not. Other than the "no chat" policy and some basic decency
guidelines, we
don't try to control or supervise Internet use in any way.
We're really struggling to figure out how we can implement the terms of the
school grant in the public library. I'd love to have some input on this.
Does
anyone else have a minimum age for unsupervised Internet access? Do you
require parental permission for Internet access for minors and, if so, how
strong
are your warnings that the library does not supervise that access? Have
you
dealt with this type of situation? I realize that many (most?) of you deal
with much more urban settings where the Internet is far from the worst
danger
facing unsupervised children in the public library, but I'm hoping that some
will
be able to offer some insight into my quandary.
TIA
Marsha
Marsha Lynn
Odon Winkelpleck Public Library
Odon, Indiana
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