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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:49 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1200
PUBYAC Digest 1200
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) 9-11 storytime
by "Mary Ann Gilpatrick" <MGilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us>
2) RE: touchy question
by Leslie Hauschildt <lhauscht@jefferson.lib.co.us>
3) RE: touchy question
by "Jessie Goodwin" <jessieg@missoula.lib.mt.us>
4) RE: touchy question
by Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
5) Holiday Hours
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
6) Library card sign up month
by Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
7) Raggedy Ann
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
8) RE: Funny Food
by "Susan Dailey" <obldailey@wellscolibrary.org>
9) Adult use of Children's Room
by LGD <gabeny13@yahoo.com>
10) Job Posting
by "Kelley, Judy" <JKelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
11) disabled at the library RE:
by "Victoria Jaksic" <vjaksic@kenosha.lib.wi.us>
12) Re: touchy question
by "Beth" <beth@bgpl.lib.in.us>
13) Book challenge: Snow Woman
by "Becky Smith" <BSMITH@loganutah.org>
14) Re: Funny Food
by "G Gallagher" <gglibrarian@hotmail.com>
15) Re: Touchy Question
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
16) Re: touchy question
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
17) Re: Yu-Gi-Oh!
by "Sonia Herrera" <sherrera@mail.ci.lubbock.tx.us>
18) RE: touchy question
by Wanda Peterson <wandasway2003@yahoo.com>
19) RE: touchy question/ drug rehab & developmental disabilities
by "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
20) Robert Munsch
by "Jan Gilgore" <jgilg@nioga.org>
21) RE: New Member
by Chris Reid <christiner@picnet.org>
22) Request: Favorite sources for youth services realia
by "miller, jennifer" <jmiller@hclib.org>
23) Re: New Member
by Mary Gelb <mgelbus@yahoo.com>
24) Scheduling question.....
by "Williams, Sally" <WilliamsS@ci.mount-dora.fl.us>
25) Re: Writing Groups
by Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
26) RE: Puppet Stages
by "Diana Cook" <dcook@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick [mailto:MGilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:15 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: 9-11 storytime
I happen to have a Thursday storytime and I have decided for next week
to do a "Celebrate New York" theme without getting into any details. I
plan to use Roxie Munro's *Inside-Outside Book of New York City* and a
slightly cut reading of Lobel's *On the Day Peter Stuyvesant Sailed Into
Town.* I'll work out some kind of craft with an apple picture and the "I
(heart) NY" sticker.
My apologies if this idea has been done to death; I've been thinking
about this all summer but was very preoccupied w/ summer reading and
don't remember seeing anything.
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Walla Walla Public Library
mgilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us
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From: Leslie Hauschildt
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:15 AM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: touchy question
There have been a number of responses to this question that have come to all
of Pubyac - I'm sure Jennifer has also received many directly (I know I sent
mine directly to her as opposed to the listserv).
Many valid points about perceptions and attitudes have been made. In my
opinion, however, I think some of the responses have been made without
realizing that Jennifer does indeed recognize this is an issue that
shouldn't be resolved by asking the group not to attend. In fact, her
email
indicates this is NOT something she is in favor of doing - she is asking for
helpful advice and ideas on alternatives.
Let's not kill the messenger, folks!
Leslie Hauschildt
Head, Children's Services
Evergreen Library, Jefferson County Public Library
5000 Highway 73, Evergreen, CO 80439
303-674-0780
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From: Jessie Goodwin [mailto:jessieg@missoula.lib.mt.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:15 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: touchy question
I am just wondering how your Children's Room is set up.
Do you have books in it or is it a programming room only?
I can understand not letting random grownups into the
children's activities, but how about the book collections?
Thanks,
Jessie
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From: Margaret Siebert [mailto:psiebert12508@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:15 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: touchy question
Thank you, Carrie, I was thinking the same thing. If I had a nickel for
every parent who came in without his or her child(ren), I'd be rich. Do you
know any rich librarians?
My guess, however, is that the rule means that adults need to be with a
child and/or using children's materials to remain in the room. I can't
really see any library ousting an unaccompanied parent.
Peg Siebert
Blodgett Library
Fishkill, NY
Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
wrote:
How do teachers and grad students get use your resources?? What about a
parent who wants to choose resources while his/her child is at school??
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Schloegel [mailto:lschloli@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:10 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: touchy question
Jennifer,
We have two groups like that who make weekly visits to the library.
However, we have the policy that any adult in the Children's Room must be
accompanied by a child.
Linda Schloegel
Youth Services Librarian
Lakeside Branch Library
Lakeside, CA
lschloli@hotmail.com
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From: Melissa MacLeod [mailto:mmacleod@sailsinc.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:23 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Holiday Hours
Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some info. on how holiday =
requests are handled at your library. Are they decided on seniority, =
rotation or lottery basis? A quick response would go a long way in =
helping me to get a broad picture. Thanks so much, Melissa MacLeod, =
Carver Public Library
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From: Margaret Siebert [mailto:psiebert12508@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:23 AM
To: pubyac
Subject: Library card sign up month
Dear fellow PUBYACers,
Help! I have been asked to address all the children in a K-5 school, two
grades at a time. I know what I want to tell them, show them, and read to
them, but I don't have a hand out.
Does anyone know of a source of down-loadable coloring sheets, bookmarks, or
such that would suit the occasion? I tried the ALA web site, but didn't find
anything. My visit is scheduled for next Wednesday, 9/10.
psiebert12508@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance.
Peg Siebert
Blodgett Library
Fishkill, NY
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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
[mailto:Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:24 AM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Raggedy Ann
We are thinking to add the re-issues of the Raggedy Ann books (written and
illustrated by Johnny Gruelle) In the original "Raggedy Ann
Stories",
there's one chapter (Raggedy Ann and the washing) that features a
stereotypical black maid, complete with dialect and eye-rolling. Is that
chapter included in the re-issue (ISBN 0027375854)? I've checked BWI and
Amazon, and can't tell from the description and reviews.
Thanks in advance,
Lin Look
Contra Costa County, CA
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From: Susan Dailey [mailto:obldailey@wellscolibrary.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:24 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Funny Food
Joan,
I did a similar program and used "Gregory the Terrible Eater" by
Mitchell
Sharmat, "Most Unusual Lunch" by Robert Bender and "My Little
Sister Ate One
Hare," which is a personal favorite. I also shared the following
poems:
--"The Meal" by Karla Kuskin and "Mummy Slept Late and Daddy
Fixed
Breakfast" by John Ciardi--two poems from an anthology called "What's
on the
Menu?"
--"Spaghetti" and "Recipe for a Hippopotamus Sandwich" from
"Where the
Sidewalk Ends" by Shel Silverstein
--"Jellyfish Stew" and "Bleezer's Ice Cream" from "The
New Kid on the Block"
by Jack Prelutsky
Good luck with your program,
Susan Dailey,
Librarian, speaker and author of A Storytime Year
www.susanmdailey.com
Ossian Branch Library, Ossian, IN 46777
obldailey@wellscolibrary.org
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From: LGD [mailto:gabeny13@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:24 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Adult use of Children's Room
How do you enforce a policy like that? Any adult must be accompanied by a
child? Why would your library formulate a policy like that? Was
there some
particular reason?
Probably a good third of our usage in the children's room is not attached to
a child...
teachers, parents, grandparents, shool aides, day care workers etc.
LOTS
of people read to children, pick books, use the non fiction section, etc.
We have adult patrons who love listening to kids books on tapes-the longer
ones like Harry Potter and all. Before I worked in a library or had
kids I
used the Chidlrens room for material for artwork, books for nieces & nephews
etc. I do not really understand telling patrons they cannot use such an
extensive part of a library's resources.
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From: Kelley, Judy [mailto:JKelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:24 AM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Job Posting
Newport Beach Public Library
Job Announcement
Librarian I/Children's Services (Full-Time)
Salary: $3,299 - $4,638/month, plus excellent benefits package
Final Filing Date: September 19, 2003
The Position:
This is a full time professional position at the Newport Beach Public
Library. The Library is looking for a creative, energetic individual to
work with staff to enhance an already excellent children's services program.
In addition to meeting the children's needs, this position will be asked to
support delivery of young adult and reference services. Please check the
City's home page for details about the position.
http://www.city.newport-beach.ca.us/HRNOTICES/1180.pdf
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From: Victoria Jaksic [mailto:vjaksic@kenosha.lib.wi.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:24 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: disabled at the library RE:
Hi all,
Just wanted to share a positive experience about the issue that has many of
us speaking up lately....
At Racine Public Library in Wisconsin, a group of these older individuals
regularly visits the children's department. To my knowledge, from when I
worked there, there were never any issues about these folks. They came in
and always said hi. They would proudly wear their medals from the Special
Olympics around their necks and tell about recent events in their lives.
One gentleman would often come up to me and ask me for stickers, which would
spur the rest to come eagerly up and receive the same. These people need
us
and they made my evening shifts enjoyable. We got to know them by first
name and even knew what they liked to read. I feel very fortunate to have
had those people touch my life.
Victoria Jaksic
Children's Librarian
Kenosha Public Library
(262) 564-6152
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From: Beth [mailto:beth@bgpl.lib.in.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:24 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: touchy question
It is interesting that you ask this since just this week I had a teacher
bring her group of 4-6 graders who are at about a kindergarten level
developmentally to the library and ask if I had any programs going on. I did
not at the time and did not feel it was in anyone's best interests for them
to attend my regular preschool storytime. Despite your previous comments I
still feel this is the case. I have set up a session for them to visit for
their own storytime. While they were here they played with our puzzles and
other toys and looked at books. If our first storytime goes well I will make
it a regular thing.
Their teacher said that basically whatever I would do with kindergarteners
would work for this group. Since some of you have experience in this area I
would appreciate any advice you have for anything they specifically enjoyed.
Thank you,
Beth Gaughan
Beech Grove Public Library
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From: Becky Smith [mailto:BSMITH@loganutah.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Book challenge: Snow Woman
I've just received a patron complaint about the book "Snow Woman" by
David McKee (Morrow, 1988). The patron doesn't object to the story;
rather, it's the artwork, which makes it apparent that instead of a
mother and a father, the children in the story have two mothers (either
that, or a ultra-masculine mother and an ultra-feminine father!). She
also objects to the "male-bashing" artwork depicted on the walls of
the
family home in this story, and feels that the book doesn't belong in the
children's collection.
We've had this book in our collection since 1988, it's checked out 114
times, and this is the first complaint we've had about it (even in our
ultra-conservative community!) Since it was published so long ago, I no
longer have any reviews available in print form. I found one review
from "School Library Journal" on Amazon.com, where the reviewer
apparently had the same opinion of this title as our patron does.
Does
anyone have sources for positive reviews on "Snow Woman?" Please
respond
directly to me.
Thanks -
Becky Ann Smith
Youth Services Librarian
Logan Library
Logan, UT
bsmith@loganutah.org
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From: G Gallagher [mailto:gglibrarian@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Funny Food
Joanne,
It depends on the age group but since you said afterschool, I'm guessing 5
and older.
We did food-related storytimes all summer for our theme "Wolfin' Down
Books"
some fun choices could be: Never Take a Pig to Lunch by Westcott (you could
read pieces of it); My Little Sister ate one Hare by Grossman; Stone Soup;
Pete's a Pizza by Steig; Wednesday is Spaghetti Day by Cocca-Leffler; I will
Never Not Ever Eat a Tomato by Child -there are so many once you start
digging!
We made edible necklaces using plastic lanyard (doesn't get damp when
necklace is being eaten) and lots of fun cereal (Honey Combs and Chocolate
Donuts were the favorites after Froot Loops).
Have fun!
Genevieve Gallagher
Youth Services Librarian
Orange County Public Library
Orange, Virginia
>From: Joanne Johnsen <jjohnsen@cc-pl.org>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Funny Food
>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:17:21 CDT
>
>I am doing an afterschool program on food and making an edible necklace as
>a craft. Any ideas for books? Joan Johnsen, CCPL
>
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From: Melissa MacLeod [mailto:mmacleod@sailsinc.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Touchy Question
What I gleamed from Jennifer's email was that she has a group of people =
not actually participating in storytime whose presence is distracting =
children who are in storytime, and while I haven't saved the email and =
cannot quote directly, I believe this was the core of the isssue. For =
libraries, like the one I work in, that do not have seperate areas for =
storytimes, it is sometimes difficult to keep the attention of your =
participants when there are other groups in the room (sometimes they are =
siblings and parents of the attending children.) I would ask them to =
move to another area (if they are not actively utilizing the resources =
in the direct vicinity) simply because I am conducting a program and =
need the attention of my group. I have never had parent groups or =
visiting YMCA groups or any others begrudge me the request, although I =
would be more hesitant to request this of a group with disabilties =
simply because I would fear the cry of discrimintaion that Jennifer's =
email has raised. If I would ask a scout group, or a school committee, =
or a group of parents to move based on the same reasons (distraction of =
my storytime group) it is not discrimination. If these adults are =
participating in the storytime it is a different issue, but I seem to =
recall that the group Jennifer was writing about was NOT PARTICIPATING, =
which was an assumption made in many replies. Good luck to all and I am =
sure I will hear about it if I am wrong, Melissa MacLeod, Carver Public =
Library
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From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:jbaker93711@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: touchy question
okay, i have already responded personally to the
couple of people who i felt deserved it and i wasn't
going to post anything new because i felt that some of
the unprofessional things that have been directed at
me certainly did not. however since things seem to be
getting worse i feel the need defend myself.
one of the reasons i broached this topic in this forum
is because i was guessing (as has been confirmed from
other responses) that i am not the only librarian that
is faced with this situation. another reason is that i
respect the experience and opinions of my colleagues
as a good resource. i cannot however have respect for
some of the people who have been deliberately abusive
and condescending--calling someone a bigot is a pretty
serious accusation especially when you do not know
that person.
in my question to this group i was hoping to get some
objective suggestions for how to deal with a difficult
situation. and no matter what your feelings are on the
topic (and for the record i agree completely that all
people, regardless of their abilities or disabilities,
have a right to library service) you cannot deny that
it is challenging. what i was attempting to phrase in
my post is the necessity of finding a way to provide
services to disabled adults in a way that is more
suited to their needs and recognizes our limitations.
i am very appreciative of the constructive (and
supportive) suggestions and comments i've received. **
i can appreciate that this is an extremely sensitive
topic and i am sorry if i have touched a personal
nerve for some of you but i think if you will take a
step back for a second and act like the professional
that you are, you will realize that my intentions
were/are good.
in the meantime, for those of you who still feel the
need to critize and insult me you can save your breath
and your fingers because i am deleting all such emails
on sight. or if you have anything useful to say please
put it at the beginning so i can skim it off.
thank you.
~j.
** p.s. in case anyone cares--for the last several
months i have been working on a grant for our adult
services department to provide new services to
disabled adults. it has been fully funded and i am
planning to forward the *useful* responses that i've
received to them.
=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library
"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is
that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy
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From: Sonia Herrera [mailto:sherrera@mail.ci.lubbock.tx.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Yu-Gi-Oh!
Hi Staci, I had a Yu-gi-Oh tournament back in spring break. I had way
too many kids in there. I did a lot of research on the game itself, the
cards, rules etc. and I still had a hard time figuring it out. Its
complicated if your not a player, even for a 37 year old. It started
out as a tournament, however some Yu-Gi-Oh "professionals" who
apparently went to a YGO convention in Fortworth/Dallas came to the
tournament as well. I was aiming it mainly for little kids to come and
duel each other and trade games, but after these bigger kids came in
they expected eveyone to play by the rules. ONe of the problems is that
there were some little boys who only had about 15 cards, not enough to
duel and some had some so-called illegal japanese cards. Heck I didnt
know half the time what they were talking about so I stood up on a table
and told everyone that the tournament was off and that everyone was on
their own and could just duel each other, with whoever, however, and
trade cards with whoever they wanted to. That was a lot better. so
to
make a long story short and to answer your question, dont have a
tournament unless you are willing to make a winners bracket for about
100 kids, I would suggest just inviting kids over to trade, or duel for
fun. Hope this helps out:.)
Sonia Herrera-Children's Services
Groves Branch Library
5520 19th Street
Lubbock Texas 79407
806-767-3733
sherrera@lubbocklibrary.com
>>> STACI@mail.selco.lib.mn.us
09/03/03 11:49 PM >>>
I hope everyone had a "Labor Free Labor Day". I sent a
email last =
week
asking if anyone had any suggestions on Yu-gi-oh activities. Several
bounced back to be due to vacations! Does anyone out there have ideas?
Please let me know, I am clueless about Yu-gi-oh. Thanks in advance.
=20
Staci Waltman
staci@selco.lib.mn.us <mailto:staci@selco.lib.mn.us>=20
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From: Wanda Peterson [mailto:wandasway2003@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: touchy question
Stephanie,
Do you really think it is right to demand that a disabled person meet the
same standards of conduct as the non-disabled in order to participate in the
public library experience? I mean, a person with Tourette's Syndrome
usually cannot help making distracting sounds and shouting out words, so by
that policy, a child with Tourette's could not attend storytime if the rule
was for the children to sit quietly and listen. Likewise, a person with
cerebral palsy cannot sit still - would you refuse to let them participate
for that reason? Rules should never be so black-and-white that we cannot
make reasonable exceptions for the disabled.
Of course people with disabilities should be treated with respect and
dignity, but that is in no way the same as saying that we should expect an
adult with the mental age of a 3-year-old to behave like an adult and stay
in the adult room, when he would clearly get so much more enjoyment out of
the children's room and materials.
I cannot help but wonder if you would be so insistent that every library
should make their own decision about how to treat this minority group if we
were talking about blacks or Jews? I am sure there are some librarians
that
would like to continue the days of segregation in their libraries, but of
course that is illegal nowadays and rightly so. Whether or not to treat a
particular group with bigotry is simply not an individual decision, as you
claim. It is wrong. The disabled are a minority group, and I am glad
that
at least most of the librarians on this list are vehemently against
discriminating against them or shooing them away so that people with
prejudices don't have to be disturbed by their presence.
If we only allowed "perfect" people to take part in library
activities, we
would have empty libraries.
Wanda Peterson
Stephanie Borgman <sborgman@hcpl.net>
wrote:
I hadn't planned to respond until I saw a reply shaming the person who had
queried us for help and support. Please, let's not get personal. There are
many different factors to consider here and we all must be free to evaluate
responses and decide what is appropriate in our own situations. It seems to
me that not too long ago we had a similar thread and the prevailing
sentiment at the time was that people of an adult age should be accorded
treatment and respect based on their actual, rather than intellectual age.
Some even suggested that to do otherwise is demeaning to those with
challenges. My point is that there is no one answer fits all in this
situation. Please do not use this public forum to attack other list
members. If you can't resist the urge to "flame" someone at least do
so
privately.
Although I rarely have the opportunity to do storytimes any more, when I did
I used the same conduct standards for those with challenges as those who are
"normal" (whatever that is). My basic rule is no individual gets to
ruin
the experience for everyone else. If kids are allowed to verbalize and move
about in storytime, so then must the disabled be accorded the same freedom.
It follows that the physical setting, audience numbers and ratios, level of
supervision from caregivers, ability of the librarian to handle
distractions, etc. are all going to enter into the decision as to what works
in any particular situation. Sometimes you can blend everyone together and
make it work, sometimes the better solution is to offer a separate storytime
tailored to the group with special needs, and sometimes even those without
physical or mental challenges just aren't ready for a group experience.
It may be called library science, but youth service is an art. I hope we
never lose our creativity and ability to innovate and accommodate for all of
our customers. Years ago in grad school I was taught that ours is a
profession rather than an occupation because we identify our customers'
needs/problems, analyze the situation in the context of available resources,
and then respond/advise/prescribe an answer or solution. This is certainly
a good example of those skills being called into service.
Stephanie Robinson Borgman
Children's Specialist
Harris County Public Library
Houston, Texas
(713) 749-9000
sborgman@hcpl.net
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From: Gruninger, Laura [mailto:lgruning@MCL.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:26 AM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: touchy question/ drug rehab & developmental disabilities
Nope. Didn't mean to compare the two at all. By similar situation, I
simply meant a "goup of adults."
The group I'm referring to is from the following organization, and not
drug rehab as I erroneously listed it. Many of their clients are indeed
undergoing drug rahabilitation and are also served through this
organization. Many do not live in our borrowing area and are served by
the center's tranportation.
Its name is: Brighter Day, Inc. which serves adults with serious and
persistent mental illness and have a "history of psychiatric illness."
(further description below) Their employees are elligible for business
cards, but must take responsibility for any materials they check out for
the clients.) Some of their histories are indeed of a very serious
nature: severe physical abuse, commiting crimes such as murder.
Do I believe they have the same rights as everyone else to library
services? Of course, anyone can come in and use library services in the
library, with or without a card. If any patron were to criticize their
right to be here I'd defend them. Do I think the children's section of
the library is the best place to serve them as a group? No, for the same
reasons we serve visiting class groups in the children's department
rather than the adult section. Have I served developmentally disabled
children in the past? Of course. Our Special Services School District
regularly visits us for storytime, crafts and library orientation. We
are looking forward to going out to their location for the first time
this month to offer a two hour professional development workshop.
Is it insensitive of me to not want suspicious unattended adults lurking
in the children's area? Maybe so. The layout of our department is that
our meeting rooms and exit doors leads right out of the children's area
to the parking lot and busy highway. A child could get snatched in an
instant, which is why we try to stress to parents that they not leave
children unattended.
I've enjoyed working in public libraries for the past 13 years and
wouldn't work in any other type of library. But I've seen lots of
suspicious behavior over the years and been harassed and followed by men
out in the stacks personally. I am also a parent with a 6 and 8 year
old. I once chased a guy out of our magazine stacks who was sitting on
the floor very nearby leering at a group of 12 year old girls in a
nearby carrel. Could I prove he was doing anything wrong? No, but he
consistently made it his business to come in and stare at women
unawares. Is it our responsibility to police things like this? Everyone
probably has a different opinion here. But with young girls, I'd rather
err on the side of caution.
And finally, I have a younger sister for whom the case of "persistent
mental illness and history of psychiatric illness...and history of
hospitalization" could easily be made.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Accardo [mailto:Caccardo@GPTX.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:56 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: touchy question/
Are you comparing a group from a drug rehab center to a group of people
with developmental disabilities? Sounds like it, and I hope I am wrong.
Big differences...
And being "consistent" in this case is one of those foolish
consistencies which brings to mind images of hobgoblins throwing tiny
brains around.
Come on now, let's put the PUB back in public library, folks :)
Chris
Mr. Chris Accardo
Librarian
Grand Prairie Memorial Library
901 Conover
Grand Prairie, TX 75051
972.237.5715
caccardo@gptx.org
> We have a similar group that comes from a local drug rahab center
within
> walking distance.=20
> If you're going to ask any adults without kids to move, you'd have to
be=20
> consistent about all of them. If our particular local group were to
come=20
> into the kids area, I know I'd get complaints from the parents who do
> come in.
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From: Jan Gilgore [mailto:jgilg@nioga.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:48 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Robert Munsch
Hi!
I am unexpectedly doing a Robert Munsch program in late September. Does =
anyone have suggestions on which books work the best? Also, any ideas =
for "non-reading activities". I believe the age group will
be 2nd, 3rd =
and 4th graders, but we could have some younger.
Thanks in advance
Jan Gilgore
Youngstown Free Library
240 Lockport St.
Youngstown, NY 14174
jgilg@nioga.org
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From: Chris Reid [mailto:christiner@picnet.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:48 AM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: New Member
Hi Kim: I have found that same thing. So far I have made extra
folders
within my inbox to keep these ideas sorted. It may even be better to copy
them to your word processing files.
Chris Reid
Petticoat Creek Library
Pickering, Ontario Canada
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From: miller, jennifer [mailto:jmiller@hclib.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:48 AM
To: 'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'
Subject: Request: Favorite sources for youth services realia
A co-worker and I have been presenting programs on library merchandising to
kids and teens, and we currently are gathering more information for upcoming
programs.
Do any of you have favorite sources for library realia (such as display
materials and early childhood manipulatives) or kid-centered library
furniture and fixtures? This would include catalog sources, as well as
chain stores like Target or Michael's craft stores. We are especially
looking for over-looked sources for fun and creative products, above and
beyond stalwarts like Demco.
Please email me personally with your wonderful ideas at:
mailto:jmiller@hclib.org <mailto:jmiller@hclib.org>
Thanks!
Jenna Miller
Hennepin County Library
763-420-8378
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From: Mary Gelb [mailto:mgelbus@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:48 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: New Member
I made a folder called "Pubyac Stuff" (creative, eh?).
It is HUGE!!!! but full of very useful postings.
Mary
--- Kim Crotty <KimTchr65@adelphia.net>
wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I apologize for this email but I am new to this and
> I am really enjoying =
> reading all the questions, answers and ideas being
> shared. There are so =
> many that I want to keep, I was wondering if there
> is a simple way to =
> archive emails.
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From: Williams, Sally [mailto:WilliamsS@ci.mount-dora.fl.us]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:48 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Scheduling question.....
Y'all did so well with my question about the three teens/bus/junkyard
question (Ans: The Three Investigators) that I thought I'd try another
one....
* We have had to reduce library hours because of budgetary constraints.
* We have 2 wildly successful traditions here: an annual pumpkin
decorating
workshop, and a gingerbread house (faux) decorating workshop. These have
both become library traditions. We did two sessions of each workshop, one
at 10:00am on a Saturday morning, and the other at 2:00 in the afternoon.
They are both always filled to capacity (40 each session)
* Since we are now open from 10:00 to 1:00 on Saturdays, we will only be
able to do one session of pumpkins and one session of the gingerbread
houses.
* How do we handle this???
* We have a contingent here that says "First come, first served".
We have
another, equally vocal contingent that says "Let people sign up as
potential
attendees, and then have a lottery to see who gets the 40 slots". We
would
do the lottery in plenty of time so that people would know if they were
chosen.
* I'm tired of trying to play Solomon here--WWYD?????????????
Sally Williams
OOhh--another question--how do I sign up for Pubyac in digest form? We
have
a new computer program that carefully puts each individual pubyac e-mail in
a SPAM folder....
Thanks
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From: Dawn Sardes [mailto:Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:48 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Writing Groups
Right now, I have groups running.
Harry Potter Prophets (fan fiction writing & sharing)
Teen poets
Teen Liars (tall tales, urban legends)
They all meet once a month for an hour, except the poets, who meet for an
hour and a half. The meetings incorporate writing, sharing, and
constructive criticism.
Dawn Sardes
Teen Services Librarian
Euclid Public Library
Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org
216-261-5300, ext. 138
"Promote, then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the
general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the Structure of a
government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public
opinion should be enlightened."
>From the 1796 Farewell Address of George Washington, 1st President of the
United States
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From: Diana Cook [mailto:dcook@rpl.regina.sk.ca]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:49 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Puppet Stages
Be very careful in contructing a built in stage! I work in a system where
two branches have built in stages and 7 have portables, and many of us
prefer the portables. Here are some reasons:
I am a short person, and in one built in stage I can scarcely reach
properly. This is compounded by the addition of lights, which are at
approx. my chest level. The lights are necessary to see backstage, but are
in a very bad place for me. I don't know how that could be remedied. Just
keep in mind that various staff are various sizes. Our portables are
adjustable but we still have problems when we do shows with one tall person
and one short one....
We are accustomed to clamping scenery or "houses" or whatever props to
our
stage, but this is impossible with a built-in shelf that is part of the
wall. Keep in mind, you may need a "lip" for this purpose.
Make sure you have enough room behind you in the "room" that is
"backstage".
Will you be needing a sound system? props? a chair? Take these into
consideration. Try to run a typical puppet show in the space allotted for
this built in stage.
Projection of sound may also be a problem, you may need to incorporate
microphones and speakers to your design.
I guess what I am trying to say, is that built in stages are not very
flexible. I don't know how your plays are staged, but try to think of every
little detail, because once they are built, they are there for good! (They
look pretty on the outside, but I don't find them practical)
Wish I had time to write more,
Diana Cook
dcook@reginalibrary.ca
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