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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1212
 
PUBYAC Digest 1212

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Book Discussion Group - Name?
by Diane Rebertus <dr00072002@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Hawafena/Singing ad
by spardi@nplhub.org (Sarah Pardi)
3) Review of "A Prayer for the Dying" for high school students
by Amy and Michael Dittman <amy0731@pgh.net>
4) American Library Association Privacy Policies and Statements
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
5) advance copies
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
6) stumper
by Nancy Bonne <bonne@noblenet.org>
7) Stumper:Stray cat catches mouse-given home
by Sandra Gillard <sgill@nioga.org>
8) Cataloging of Graphic Novels -- Thanks!!
by "Vicki Muzzy" <vmuzzy@starklibrary.org>
9) RE: Patriot's Day storytime (preschool)
by "Mary Ann Gilpatrick" <MGilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us>
10) Re: Managing Student Assistants
by Beth Bell <bethbell52@yahoo.com>
11) RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
by "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov>
12) RE: Hats Off to Reading
by "Adelaide Rowe" <Adelaide.Rowe@egvpl.org>
13) Re: Galleys/Advance Copies -- answers
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
14) Re: Hats Off to Reading
by ann chapman <amom124@yahoo.com>
15) RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
by Christine Gogolowski <chrisg@tln.lib.mi.us>
16) Out-of-scope request
by MzLibrary@aol.com
17) Parents
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
18) Re: CIPA Compliance
by nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
19) Re: reorganizing 398s
by "Kelly Laszczak" <zcz23@msn.com>
20) Re: Garden programs
by ann chapman <amom124@yahoo.com>
21) RE: Stumper - Peppino
by Carol Hopkins <CarolH@ci.puyallup.wa.us>
22) RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
by "Ellen Little" <elittle@pts.edu>
23) Subject: Cataloging of Graphic Novels
by Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
 
 
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From: Diane Rebertus [SMTP:dr00072002@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:24 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Book Discussion Group - Name?
 
I'm looking for a catchy name for a book discussion group - children in
grades 3-5. Thanks.
 
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From: spardi@nplhub.org [SMTP:spardi@nplhub.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:24 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Hawafena/Singing ad
 
I have heard of ads that talk for comedy central sitting atop men's urina=
ls!
Talk about in your face advertising!=0D
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Sarah Pardi=0D
Children's Librarian =0D
Belleville Public Library =0D
Belleville, NJ, 07109=0D
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"You wasted $ 150,000 on an education you coulda got for a buck fifty in
late charges at the public library" Good Will Hunting=0D
 
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From: Amy and Michael Dittman [SMTP:amy0731@pgh.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:24 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Review of "A Prayer for the Dying" for high school students
Hi, everyone!
I have been asked to find a review of the book A PRAYER FOR THE DYING by
STEWART O'NAN for high school students. Does anyone know of one off the
top of your head? I have limited access right now to resources, but any
information you could offer will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Amy M. Dittman
Temporarily Unemployed in Franklin, PA 16323
 
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From: Don Wood [SMTP:dwood@ala.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:24 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: American Library Association Privacy Policies and Statements
American Library Association Privacy Policies and Statements
Prepared by Nancy Kranich
Chair, ALA Intellectual Freedom Committee
http://tinyurl.com/n0to
Don Wood
Program Officer/Communications
American Library Association, Office for Intellectual Freedom
50 East Huron Street, Chicago, IL 60611
1-800-545-2433, ext. 4225; Fax: 312-280-4227; dwood@ala.org
http://www.ala.org/oif
 
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From: Bonita Kale [SMTP:Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:24 PM
To: pubyac
Subject: advance copies
Robyn Hammer-Clarey writes: here may be grammatical or spelling errors in
proofs (advanced copies).
 
Joke, right? Impression I get is that no one bothers to read and correct
the things--they come out so full of errors.
Bonita
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From: Nancy Bonne [SMTP:bonne@noblenet.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:24 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: stumper
This is for my sister: An American woman married a German man in the 30's,
and they had twin sons. When the war came, the woman went back to America
with one son, while the German kept the other, and joined the
Luftwaffe. The twins shared a beloved teddy bear, and years after a man
and woman are rescued after they crash in the North Sea. The rescuer
recognizes a teddy bear that the woman bought in a a flea market in France,
and tells them the story. Anyone know this story? Nancy
Bonne...bonne@noblenet.org

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From: Sandra Gillard [SMTP:sgill@nioga.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper:Stray cat catches mouse-given home
Fellow Pubyac Members,
This stumper came in that I would like Pubyac's help with. It may be a
picture book or slightly longer that was probably published in the 1980s
or before. A stray orange cat is found by an orphan at a boarding
house. The cat is not allowed in the house, but it catches a mouse and
is then welcome to stay. I was asked to post this by a fellow
librarian. She checked our database and A to Zoo without any luck.
Thanks for your help. Sandy Gillard sgill@nioga.org Richmond
Library, Batavia, NY

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From: Vicki Muzzy [SMTP:vmuzzy@starklibrary.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Cataloging of Graphic Novels -- Thanks!!
Hello everyone!
Many thanks to all of you who responded to my request for thoughts on cataloging graphic novels. I received so many responses, most saying that their graphic novels are classified as fiction, and others saying that they kept their's in separate sections or had special spine labels for those housed in the 700's. Your responses were awesome! Thanks again!
Vicki Muzzy
Juvenile Materials Coordinator
Stark County District Library
715 Market Ave N
Canton, OH 44702
330-458-2643
vmuzzy@starklibrary.org
 
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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick [SMTP:MGilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Patriot's Day storytime (preschool)
Of course I've already addes
Levinson, I go with my family to Grandma's
Bunting, Picnic in October. (If I can get through it without tears.)
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Walla Walla Public Library
mgilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us
Thanks especially to Jennifer S., Amy W., and Richard Bryce for some
wonderful suggestions.
My compiled list for this Thursday's storytime includes:
Brooklyn Pops Up
Drummond, Allan; Liberty
Lobel; On the Day Peter ...
(follow by singing "East Side, West Side")
Munro; Inside-Outside Book of NYC (j917.471 here)
Myers & Myers; Harlem (j811.5 here)
Swift; Little Red Lighthouse and the Great Gray Bridge (GW bridge, in
fact)
have on display: Eloise, Fireboat, Journey Around New York from A to Z
(I don't have); Curious George in the Big City (I don't have); You Can't
Take A Balloon Into the Metropolitan Museum (which I love but it
wouldn't read well; anything else you have covering NYC.
A Patriotic Theme or American Legends theme. Display 9-11 books
judiciously. My kids are far away from New York and haven't experienced
the events firsthand, but will be curious about the flags at half mast,
etc. on Thursday.
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From: Beth Bell [SMTP:bethbell52@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Managing Student Assistants
Julie,
We give new pages paper strips to place in the items
before shelving. These are color coded, such as Sue
gets red and Bill gets blue. We then check the
shelving and pull the strips. We do this for a week or
so, as needed. We also do spot checks by writing down
the bar codes for a few items and then checking if
they get put in the correct place. We use this if we
are having a problem with other branch books being
shelved on our shelves or a problem area. Hope this
helps.
Beth Bell
St. Andrews Public Library
Charleston, SC
--- Julie McCoy <jmdmccoy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am requesting input on the ways you verify that
> your student assistants
> (shelvers) are doing their jobs properly, especially
> new students who have
> just been trained. Also, how often do you spot
> check the job your shelvers
> are doing?
>
> Thanks for the input!
>
> Julie McCoy
> Reference Librarian - Teen Services
> Public Library of Cincinnati & Hamilton County
> Delhi Township Branch Library
> jmdmccoy@hotmail.com
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From: Beverly Bixler [SMTP:bbixler@sanantonio.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
For some reason this posting put me in mind of the howlers that Hogwarts =
students occasionally received.
Beverly Bixler
bbixler@sanantonio.gov
San Antonio Public Library, TX=20
 
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From: Adelaide Rowe [SMTP:Adelaide.Rowe@egvpl.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Reading
Well, you could make a display using various professions' hats and put
them with the books - fireman, policeman, hard hat, pilot, etc, or place
them on top of the shelves where you can find those books. Not very
original maybe, but an idea while eating a delicious Panera peanut
butter and banana bagel.
Adelaide Rowe
Head of Youth Services
Elk Grove Village Public Library
Elk Grove Village, Illinois 60007
arowe@egvpl.org
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From: Melissa MacLeod [SMTP:mmacleod@sailsinc.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Galleys/Advance Copies -- answers
Instead of discouraging her you could donate them to a children's hospital
instead, then you would know they are being used. Wehn my son had to spend a
few days in the hospital it was nice to have a bookshelf there and I'm sure
the older kids would appreciate a better selection than what they usually
have. Good luck, Melissa
 
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From: ann chapman [SMTP:amom124@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Reading
 
We did a two week Easter Parade storyhour and the theme was hats. We read
The Witch's Hat by Tony Johnston wearing a witch hat, Pizza Man by Marjorie
Pillar wearing paper bakers hat from local pizza place, Caps for Sale by
Slobodkina, the flannelboard story Little Puff's Easter Bonnet, Tom and
Pippo at the Beach by Oxenbury and made a newspaper hat during story, and
The Hat by Jan Brett. We also made up and presented the Windy Day Hat
flannelboard, our own original pizza flannelboard - a flannel pizza with all
kinds of flannel pizza toppings that each child took a turn adding to the
pizza, I added lots of bright yellow yarn at the end for the cheese, and
made flannel pieces to go along with a Clown's Hat Poem. We made Paper Plate
Easter Bonnets and Leprechaun Hat Windsocks for craft. I can send craft and
flannel patterns along as an attachment if you send me your e-mail address.
Ann
Vicki Shroyer <vickis@yellowbananas.com> wrote:HELP!!!!! Our elementary
(K-4) school is having a book fair with the
theme, "Hats Off to Reading". The PTO came to me for an idea or two
to promote it through the library. The art class is making hats to
hang on the walls. I am stumped for an idea--any thoughts?????
 
 
 
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From: Christine Gogolowski [SMTP:chrisg@tln.lib.mi.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Sue Ridnour
Subject: RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
I am no prude but I saw that ad and was totally disgusted. In fact I
tried to go and complain at their web site but none of the contacts was
viable.
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From: MzLibrary@aol.com [SMTP:MzLibrary@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Out-of-scope request
I have an unusual request for you and I am hoping that someone can contact
the right person in his/her library who can help me.
One of my patrons (adult) has damaged an album belonging to a customer. The
pages that are damaged are pages from Modern Bride, Brides and Vogue
magazines
from 1993. I have searched the catalogs in Massachusetts and New Hampshire
and with the exception of Wellesley, Massachusett's collection of Vogue
there
do not seem to be copies kept. My patron called the magazines directly and
he
was told they could not, or would not, help him.
I have copies of the pages here. I told him some time ago that the library
would certainly be able to help and I am afraid that I won't be able to.
Libraries apparently do not circulate copies of magazines and he or I will
have to
travel to Wellesley for the Vogue pages but I am unsure how I can get color
copies of these pages.
Can any of you help? Perhaps if you are from a large library that has 10
years plus of magazines in your collection you could have your reference
librarian contact me?
Thanks,
Charlotte Rabbitt
Charlotte Rabbitt, Children's Librarian
http://www.mrsrabbitt.blogspot.com
Peterborough Town Library
Peterborough, New Hampshire
"Oh, magic hour when a child first knows it can read printed words!"
from A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith
mzlibrary@aol.com
crabbitt@townofpeterborough.us
http://townofpeterborough.com/library
 
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From: Bonita Kale [SMTP:Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: pubyac
Subject: Parents
 
All three of these came in one digest:
 
>It seems that her
>daughter only wants to use the computers when they come to the library
>and doesn't want to sit and share books with her mother anymore. The
>parent asked if we would consider having our computers only "open" at
>certain times of the day, because it would be during those times that
>she would come to the library with her daughter.
 
> I cringe when the
>parents say,
>"Johnny, you better behave in the library otherwise they won't let you
>come back."
>I always smile and say we'll always let you come back.
>I once had a storyhour child reach in and grab our library guinea pig. I
>heard the terrified squealing and told him that this was not allowed.
>His mother said that in her house if I child asks politely and says
>please he is allowed to have his request "respected". He had asked me
>earlier and I told him no. Oh and she does not use the word no with her
>children.
So it seems we've got two types of parents who want the library to raise
their kid for them: the ones who want to rely on the library for discipline,
and the ones who want library rules to match her own. Sheesh.
One useful thing about the library is that it's a relatively non-threatening
place to learn that things are different away from home. If that guinea pig
mom thinks her child is never going to get told "no" when he asks politely,
I wonder what world -she- lives in!
We have mothers who ask how long the child is allowed on the computer;
sometimes what they want is for someone else to be the bad guy. We don't
kick children off unless other children are waiting, though.
The thing that astonishes me is the helpless parents who can't figure out
how to get the children off the computer once they're on.
I do, however, remember being a parent. Things that seem small to me now
seemed BIG indeed back then--my whole being was focused on what was best for
my children. It's a very strange time.
 
Bonita
 
 
 
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From: nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us [SMTP:nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: CIPA Compliance
I'm not really "in the loop" as far as our compliance, but we have several
issues here. Currently we don't filter. We do, however receive E-rate
money, especially to help defray some of the telecommunications costs for
T-1 lines we run to our branches (they are perhaps more costly because we
have 3 different local phone companies involved, SBC/Ameritech, Verizon, and
Sprint). We just found out that we might be able to get wireless
connections to replace the T-1 lines through the consortium we belong to.
In that case we might not need the filtering software.
Nancy Koebel
Birchard Public Library of Sandusky County
nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
 
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From: Kelly Laszczak [SMTP:zcz23@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: reorganizing 398s
I just did this project at my library. We use dewey and brought the call
number out 5 places. There is a pretty clear description on how to do this
in the DDC21...really it is clear, I'm not a cataloger either and I got it.
Basically, all folktales are 398.2 . Then you add 09 to designate a country.
They there is a chart for the number of each county, Japan is 52. So a
Japanese folktale would be 398.20952. The chart is on Table 2 in vol. 1 of
DDC21.
Let me know if that doesn't make sense.
-Kelly Laszczak
Hinsdale Public Library
 
 
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From: ann chapman [SMTP:amom124@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Garden programs
 
Bonita: We did Plant-A-Seed-Read! for National Library Week this year. We
offered a "Garden Party" in our Youth Program Room 3 afternoons that week
staffed by members of our local Garden Club. The Garden Club paid for peat
pots, potting soil and nasturtium and green bean seeds for 50 and
participants came in on a drop-in basis(we ran out and had to buy more!)
during the advertised staffed hours with parental supervision required for
those under age 9. I put drop cloths on the floor and brought in my
wheelbarrow from home and filled it up with potting soil and provided a
couple of trowels(also from home)for the kids and adults to fill their pots
and plant their seeds. We displayed a nice variety of Youth and Adult
garden books for perusal and check-out and played a bird song cd in the
background. Our craft person cut out shapes of birds, flowers and
butterflies from posterboard and left out a self serve crayon rubbing craft
using pastels and brights for a festive, springy look.
The kids embellished the rubbings with their own drawing to make a Spring
Scene. It turned out to be nice outreach with the Garden Club members -
they loved being here and interacting with our patrons esp. the Young
Adults - and the bonus was that a lot of our middle school students that are
in the library everyday after school participated and liked the project and
chatting with the Garden Club people a lot too! Our local paper caught on
and since it involved two big community resources - us and the Garden Club -
came in and took pictures in advance and we were on the front page-full page
in color- for National Library Week! Fun!
Ann
 
 
onita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org> wrote:
First, thank you all so much for the many great ideas about Ancient Egypt
programs.
Second, I have a request from another pair of co-workers:
"Would you please request the collective PUBYAC mind to send any ideas for
programming about gardens, flowers, or gardening that they have done?
Successfully, we hope! We would like to do one, but are woefully short on
creative ideas to pull the kids in."
So--any thoughts?
Bonita
 
 
"The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, and all the sweet serenity of
books."
Longfellow
'Morituri Salutamus', 1875
 
 
Ann Chapman
Marshall District Library
Marshall, MI
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From: Carol Hopkins [SMTP:CarolH@ci.puyallup.wa.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:27 PM
To: 'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: Stumper - Peppino
Hooray and a big thanks to Lori O'Donnell for finding the answer to my
stumper (see below). It was PEPPINO, pictures by Sita Jucker, text by
Ursina Ziegler.
Another happy patron is singing the praises of her library!
Carol Hopkins
Puyallup Public Library
 
 
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From: Ellen Little [SMTP:elittle@pts.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:27 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
Is it just me, or does anyone else see parallels to the mail items in Harry Potter?
Ellen Little
Circulation Supervisor
Barbour Library
Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
412-441-3304 x2274
elittle@pts.edu
 
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From: Jennie Stoltz [SMTP:jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:27 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Subject: Cataloging of Graphic Novels
Vicki,
I've created two special collections for my graphic novels/comic books. In
the children's dept. I have an area called Comic Books. We include the
Garfield, Peanuts, Calvin & Hobbes, Pokemon, lower level
Spiderman/Batman/etc. books in there. These were originally all in the
700's mixed up with everything else and since I created this new collection
the books are NEVER on the shelf. In the YA section I have a Graphic Novels
area. In there I put traditional graphic novels and more "racy" comic books
like X-Men/Star Wars, etc. The ones that have the bosom-y babes in them.
Both sections are catalogued as fiction. I think putting any of these books
in the 700 section only makes them get lost. Most kids, until they happen
across that section or think to look it up, may never find it. The kids
that read these are looking for entertainment/recreational reading and I
think that putting them in fiction is much more appropriate.
Good luck,
Jennie
Jennie Stoltz
Children's Services Coordinator
Frank L. Weyenberg Library
Mequon/Thiensville, WI
  End of PUBYAC Digest 1212