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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1222
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:46 PM


PUBYAC Digest 1222

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Grandparents StoryTime
by LouAnne or Jay Krantz <krantzjl@centurytel.net>
2) Dual library roles
by <dcorral@chilitech.com>
3) Re: FOL group and video rentals
by nadine <wpl_nadine@yahoo.com>
4) preschool letter to parents
by Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
5) Re: Crafts from CDs
by "Lynn Hahn" <lynnly444@hotmail.com>
6) 2 Stumpers
by Tracie Partridge <traciep@wichita.lib.ks.us>
7) mpaa ratings - meant for parents not libraries
by Janet Eckert <jcape52@yahoo.com>
8) Re: hardback vs paperbacks and upset parent and child checking out
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
9) Web sites and eye patches
by "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
10) Re: I need ideas for a parade unit
by "Laura Matheny" <lauramatheny@comcast.net>
11) Baby music
by Joanne Johnsen <jjohnsen@cc-pl.org>
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I am planning to do a grandparents story time and have not found as many
books or activities as I thought I would.  I would love to receive
recommendations for any good books, fingerplays, songs, etc.  Please
send directly to me.  Thank you in advance for sharing!

Sincerely,
LouAnne Krantz
Youth Services Librarian
Polson City Library
Polson, Montana
krantzjl@centurytel.net

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Hello,

I am a lib. sciences student at Texas Women's University and I have
subscribed to this list to do research. My topic is the dual role of
libraries with respect to any libraries that are public/school libraries
and issues they have with security. Is there anyone out there that is in
this situation and would be willing to share some of their experiences
with me? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

D Corral

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WOW...i can understand why we don't have a FOL group if this is something
that can happen!!!!!!!!!!!

Gurkwitz@aol.com wrote:Does anybody have a Friends of the Library group that
completely handles the
rental of donated (from FOL) videos and DVDs? The group in my library wants
to
take back the videos they donated and do all the rentals themselves.
Personally, I'm not thrilled with the idea. They would have no access to the
library circulation database, and would need to create their own.
Please e-mail me off list if such a thing is happening at your library, or
if you know of a library, or if you have a comment.

Thanks!
Caroline Hailey Gurkweitz
gurkwitz@aol.com
gurkwitz@yahoo.com

Thanks to all who sent me copies of the informational
letters they give to parents introducing their
preschool storytimes and behavioral expectations (for
adult as well as child!).  These have been very
helpful in composing my own letter for this fall.

Most were sent to me as attachments, and I have
compiled them into one document.  Since it is very
long, I'm not posting it to the group, although I will
forward it to anyone who requests it. 

Thanks again,
Lorraine Getty
Forsyth Public Library
Forsyth IL
lgetty1969@yahoo.com


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From: "Lynn Hahn" <lynnly444@hotmail.com> 
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:40 AM 
Subject: Re: Crafts from CDs

I used them this summer as wheels on a vechile in a children's program.

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From: "Tracie Partridge" <traciep@wichita.lib.ks.us> 
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:41 AM 
Subject: 2 Stumpers

Hi, everyone.  I have two chapter fiction stumpers for a library customer.
I have tried our automated card catalog as well as Novelist to no avail.
She read both of them when she was in the sixth grade so they were written
in or prior to the early 1980s.

In the first one, a boy discovers a cave, explores it, gets lost, and
eventually makes his way out in the dark after his flashlight stops
working.  She remembers the vivid descriptions of the rock formations in it.

The second one occurs after a war or some catastrophic event.  The people
in it are living underground.  They have to use air filters, and they wear
white tunics.

I know it isn't a lot of information, and it could be confused.  I would
really appreciate it if you would e-mail me at tpartrid@concentric.net if
you have any ideas.  Thanks for your assistance.

Tracie Partridge
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Tracie Partridge
Children's Center Section Manager        316-261-8594 (v)
Wichita Public Library        316-262-4540 (f)
223 South Main       traciep@wichita.lib.ks.us
Wichita KS 67202    http://www.wichita.lib.ks.us
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From: "Janet Eckert" <jcape52@yahoo.com> 
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:41 AM 
Subject: mpaa ratings - meant for parents not libraries

Hi Sean and all,
     My understanding is that the MPAA have no legal authority - they are
are guide for parents (and only parents - for their children, and only their
children).  I visiting the MPAA website and extracted the information below
from "The purpose of the ratings
systems" -http://www.mpaa.org/movieratings/about/index.htm  .

"THE PURPOSE OF THE RATING SYSTEM

The basic mission of the rating system is a simple one: to offer to parents
some advance information about movies so that parents can decide what movies
they want their children to see or not to see. The entire rostrum of the
rating program rests on the assumption of responsibility by parents. If
parents don't care, or if they are languid in guiding their children's
moviegoing, the rating system becomes useless. Indeed, if you are 18 or
over, or if you have no children, the rating system has no meaning for you.
Ratings are meant for parents, no one else."

     The Library Bill of Rights prevails!

Sincerely,
Janet Eckert
Western Massachusetts Regional Library System

"Sean P. S. George" <seanps@george.net> wrote:
Well, we don't do that in my library system but, if we did, I would have
no problem with it. In my opinion it's not just "letting one patron
determine which items you'll lend to another patron." It is letting a
parent decide how they want to raise their child, much like not letting
children see R rated movies without parental accompaniment.

Just my $.02

--Sean

Bonita Kale wrote:

>Don't you who put notes on children's cards have trouble with the concept
of
>letting one patron determine which items you'll lend to another patron?
>
>Bonita

Sincerely,

Janet Eckert
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From: "Jennifer Baker" <jbaker93711@yahoo.com> 
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:42 AM 
Subject: Re: hardback vs paperbacks and upset parent and child checking out

i definitely agree with you about letting kids read
whatever they want. but i think the original point on
the paperback vs. hardback discussion was that
hardbacks last longer so we'd rather they check out
something that is more physically durable. however,
i'm not so sure i agree anyway. we have lots of
paperbacks that check out dozens of times without
problems at all and others (captain underpants) that
check out twice and bite it. but you can say the same
thing about hardbacks. about a third of our hp5s have
already started to fall apart. i think a lot of the
reason why the paperbacks show wear faster is simply
because they see more action.  at least they're
cheaper.
~j.
--- Ellie Teaford <eteaford@kendallvillelibrary.org>
wrote:
> It is interesting that these two discussions are
> going on at the same =
> time.  In one people are trying to find ways to get
> kids to check out =
> hardbacks not paperbacks.  In the other people are
> trying to explain how =
> kids have a right to check out whatever materials
> they want in the =
> library.=20
> Why is it a problem to check out a paperback book?
> Is it somehow a =
> better book in hardcover?  Let the people have what
> they want.

=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy 

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From: "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org> 
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:43 AM 
Subject: Web sites and eye patches

Hi, there!  Many thanks for suggestions on favorite websites and your ideas
for helping the girl with the eye patch feel more comfortable.  Below are
the websites I submitted- many being suggestions from you-  followed by the
eye patch information you were kind enough to send on.  Hope it helps.

Be a Scout:

http://www.scouting.org <http://www.scouting.org/>  (Boy Scouts of America)

http://www.girlscouts.org <http://www.girlscouts.org/>  (self-explanatory
:-))

Your Favorite Books:

http://www.americangirl.com <http://www.americangirl.com/>  (everything that
makes girls click)

http://www.lemonysnicket.com <http://www.lemonysnicket.com/>  (Series of
Unfortunate Events)

http://scholastic.com <http://www.scholastic.com/>  (Captain Underpants,
Junie B Jones....)

http://pbskids.org/arthur <http://pbskids.org/arthur>  (everyone's favorite
aardvark)

Fun and Games:

http://www.funbrain.com/ <http://www.funbrain.com/>  (games for kids;
Internet's # 1 education site for K-8 kids and teachers)

http://yucky.kids.discovery.com <http://yucky.kids.discovery.com/>  (the
yuckiest site on the Web)

http://www.sikids.com <http://www.sikids.com/>  (Sports Illustrated for
Kids)

http://www.enchantedlearning.com <http://www.enchantedlearning.com/>

Be Healthy!

http://kidshealth.org <http://kidshealth.org/>  (the Web's most visited site
about children's health)

Surf the 'Net!

http://www.surfnetkids.com <http://www.surfnetkids.com/>  (a list, by
subject, of the best websites for kids)

http://www.kidsclick.org <http://www.kidsclick.org/>  (searchable database,
like Yahooligans, but set up by librarians)

http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/ALSC/Great_Web_Sites_for_Kids/Grea
t_Web_Sites_for_Kids.htm
<http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/ALSC/Great_Web_Sites_for_Kids/Gre
at_Web_Sites_for_Kids.htm>  (ALA's best web sites for kids- more than 700)

Miscellaneous:

http://www.icdlbooks.org <http://www.icdlbooks.org/>  (Internet Children's
Digital Library)


Hi!  My daughter wore one for about a year (then we moved to atropine drops
- an "invisible" eye patch of sorts).  I have never seen any books about it
but there is a good website called the Eye Patch Club
(http://www.preventblindness.org/children/EyePatchClub.html
<http://www.preventblindness.org/children/EyePatchClub.html> )
It includes a newsletter, aclassroom guide for the child's teacher, a
calendar with stickers and a pen pal form so that the child can reach out to
other kids with the same issues.
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My boys loved the adventures of Patch the Pirate. The creator developed the
character after losing an eye and finding himself wearing a patch. You can
get more info at:

http://www.patchthepirate.org/ <http://www.patchthepirate.org/>

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The only thing I can remember dealing with this is a series of 'Peanuts'
cartoon strips years and years ago, when Sally got an eye patch for a 'lazy
eye' (don't remember the medical term).  She talked about her fears and
defiance (I think she decked one kid who said she looked like Long John
Silver).  It was probably in the early 70s, and I read it in one of those
compiled treasurys.

And it's now on some optometric website:
http://med-aapos.bu.edu/Peanuts/Peanuts.html
<http://med-aapos.bu.edu/Peanuts/Peanuts.html>
 (A NUMBER OF PEOPLE MENTIONED THIS)


I wore one for years, and had 2 surgeries so I have always been interested
and hoping to find books that just mention (not books that are about)
children w/ eye patches.

I ended up buying (for the Library and home) Jennifer Jean the Cross Eyed
Queen by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor.  It's op now but maybe you could find used
titles.  I loaned it to my husband's secretary; her daughter wore a patch
and had surgery just 6 months ago, and although Darien was only 3 at the
time, she really liked having the book read to her - and it's a longer
picture book.

Another book that's on a similar, but not totally the same topic, is From
Anna, by Jean Little, also op and for an older audience (the girl is going
blind in this book).  I liked reading that as an adult, but don't know that
I would have liked it when I was younger.  I did love Follow My Leader by
James Garfield - read that first in elementary school.

You also might suggest that the patron try the AAPOS website
http://med-aapos.bu.edu/ <http://med-aapos.bu.edu/>   (Amer. Academy for
Pediatric Opthamology and Strabismus) - they have some good information,
written for parents and adults in understandable language, too, which makes
it less scary.

Thanks again and let me know if you have any questions.

Richard Bryce
West Milford Township Library
bryce@palsplus.org <mailto:bryce@palsplus.org>


"All it takes is one good deed to change the world for good."- Rabbi
Menachem Schneerson

"So many things have made living and learning easier.  But the real things
haven't changed.  It is still best to be honest and truthful; to make the
most of what we have; to be happy with simple pleasures; and to be cheerful
and have courage when things go wrong."- Laura Ingalls Wilder

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From: "Laura Matheny" <lauramatheny@comcast.net> 
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:44 AM 
Subject: Re: I need ideas for a parade unit

Linda,
We had everyone to dress up as their favorite book character or author.  We
had Clifford, Harry and Hermione, Celia Thaxter, Sherlock Holmes, Cat in the
Hat etc.  We played a library song over and over again and handed out
bookmarks with our library info on them.  It was loads of fun.

Laura C. Matheny
Children and Youth Services Librarian
Durham Public Library
Durham, NH 03824

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From: "Bridges, Linda" <BridgesL@liveoakpl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:06 AM
Subject: I need ideas for a parade unit


>
> Our libraries enter a unit in the County Fair Parade each year.  It's my
> turn to plan our unit (again!) and I'm out of ideas.  Research on the
> Internet has yielded lots of inspiration for a book truck drill team
(among
> other great stuff, see Marin County's video at
> http://www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/lb/main/drillteam.cfm
> <http://www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/lb/main/drillteam.cfm> ).  However, the
> library staff probably isn't up to the 1.5 mile parade route on foot...and
I
> know our book trucks aren't!!
>
> So, my question to all you creative, imaginative folks out there...got any
> great, inexpensive ideas for a library parade float?  The parade is next
> month, so I've really got to get rolling on this soon.  Please reply to me
> directly.  If there is interest, I will compile and post.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Linda Bridges
> Effingham County Children's Librarian
> Live Oak Public Libraries
> P.O. Box 1939
> Rincon, GA
> phone 912-826-2222
> fax 912-826-6304
> bridgesl@liveoakpl.org
>
> www.liveoakpl.org <www.liveoakpl.org>
>
>
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From: "Joanne Johnsen" <jjohnsen@cc-pl.org> 
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>> 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 1:55 PM 
Subject: Baby music

I loved all your suggestions in the Lapsit ideas thread, and I'd like to know where you order (or buy) bells and other musical instruments--I haven't had much luck looking thru my catalogs.  Any ideas for making a jingle bell instrument?  Joan Johnsen CC-PL.org