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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:03 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1226

PUBYAC Digest 1226

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Stumper
by Mary Ann Bevington <bevingma@oplin.org>
2) STUMPER...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
3) Amazon
by "Fauver, Marge" <MFauver@ci.santa-barbara.ca.us>
4) Teen Ink magazine
by Brenda Fay <Brenda.Fay@mcfls.org>
5) Harry Potter -- Spanish Edition
by "deborah campbell" <deborah_campbell@hotmail.com>
6) One Record in your library database for classic titles
by Bonnie Warren <bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us>
7) rights and choices
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
8) Fines on children's books
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
9) "If" stumper
by Selma Levi <slevi@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
10) Friend/Garden Stumper Solved
by "Donnae Tidwell" <donnae-tidwell@ci.santa-monica.ca.us>
11) Poetry cafe for Teen Read Week
by "Christine L. Tyner" <tynercl@yahoo.com>
12) Research paper
by "Amy Newcomb" <draekan58@hotmail.com>
13) book group for Jennifer
by "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
14) stumper-answer (left foot right foot)
by Amy Kiefer <a.kiefer@lanepl.org>
15) Re: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story
by Fae Griffith <fgriffit@mail.win.org>
16) re: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story
by susanna.holstein@kanawha.lib.wv.us
17) Re: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story
by "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>

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From: "Mary Ann Bevington" <bevingma@oplin.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:07 PM

Subject: Stumper


Help!
We had a patron today looking for a picture book she saw a couple of years
ago ~ no author or title.
It was about emotions/feelings with a poem relating to each different
emotion. She said the illustrations were beautiful. That's all we have to
go on. Any clues?
Mary Ann Bevington
Huron Public Library
333 Williams Street
Huron OH 44870
bevingma@oplin.org

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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>

To: <OPLINLIST@EPICURUS.OPLIN.LIB.OH.US>; <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:08 PM

Subject: STUMPER...


Okay, Collective Brain...

Here's a stumper for you:

Patron came in today looking for either a book/story (she is not sure which
it is). Title might be or have in it "The Bluebird of Happiness". The story
concerns two children looking for happiness. The bird, a bluebird, tells
them that they cannot keep happiness, that they have to give it away.

Email directly to barbarascott@hotmail.com

Any clues?....I am stumped....TIA!!!

Barbara Scott
Children's Librarian, Bucyrus Public Library

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From: "Fauver, Marge" <MFauver@ci.santa-barbara.ca.us>

To: <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:13 PM

Subject: Amazon


That is probably igive.com but Amazon has dropped out of their program.

>^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^<
It's hard to seize the day when you first have to grapple with the morning!

Marge Fauver, Librarian
Eastside Branch Library
1102 E. Montecito St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93103
805-963-3727, Fax 617-344-0433
mfauver@ci.santa-barbara.ca.us
www.ci.santa-barbara.ca.us/library

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From: "Brenda Fay" <Brenda.Fay@mcfls.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:14 PM

Subject: Teen Ink magazine


Hi all,
Do any of your libraries purchase Teen Ink magazine to have available for patrons to take home? How many copies do you order and do you have any left over at the end month?

The Teen Ink books are fairly well-received here, but I'm not sure the magazine would be as popular.

Thanks!

Brenda Fay

~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~
Brenda Fay
Children's Librarian
North Shore Library
Glendale, WI 53217
~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~
"If you drink too much from a bottle marked 'poison', it is almost certain to disagree with you, sooner or later." ~Alice's adventures in Wonderland

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From: "deborah campbell" <deborah_campbell@hotmail.com>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:15 PM

Subject: Harry Potter -- Spanish Edition


Hello Pubyaccers --

We've searched amazon.com, b&n.com, and did a google search looking for pub
dates for the Order of the Phoenix in Spanish. Is it available yet, and if
not, does anyone know when the anticipated pub date is? (Unfortunately our
latest copy of Criticas has disappeared!)

Thanks for the help,

Deborah Campbell
Youth Services Coordinator
Loveland Public Library
campbd@ci.loveland.co.us

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From: "Bonnie Warren" <bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:16 PM

Subject: One Record in your library database for classic titles


There has been some discussion in our library consortium with a shared
database of eliminating multiple records for different editions,
illustrators, forewords, translators, etc., of juvenile fiction (not
picture books) and classic (classed often in the 800s) titles in the
adult collection. For example, if there are three different editions or
three different illustrators of "Peter Pan" or "Moby Dick", they would
be merged into one record. So if you were specifically looking for the
Penguin Classic of "Moby Dick," you probably wouldn't be able to find it
under the proposed new merging of records. Do any of you do this in
your libraries and if you do, do you have written guidelines as to what
qualifies as a match or when you would need a separate record? If so,
would you be willing to share them with me? I personally am against
having one so-called generic or "gang" record to which many versions are
linked. But if it has been successful in your library with your
patrons, I would appreciate hearing your feedback.

Also, can you provide arguments or personal experience as to why this is
not a good idea. Please respond to me off-list with questions to
comments. I will compile responses if anyone is interested.

Bonnie Warren
Children's Services Librarian
Clackamas County Library
Oak Grove, OR 97267
bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us

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From: "Bonita Kale" <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>

To: "pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:22 PM

Subject: rights and choices


Sean writes:
If you think that a community should not have the right to make that
choice, then I respect your right to your own opinion and we will just
have to agree to disagree.
====================================================

It's my impression that rights inhere in the individual, not the community.
The individual holds those rights specifically -against- the community which
might might wish to outlaw (or possibly kill) him.

Bonita

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From: "Bonita Kale" <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>

To: "pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:23 PM

Subject: Fines on children's books


Well, Cleveland Public Library doesn't charge fines on children's books, and
hasn't for maybe thirty years. Or more.

Bonita

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From: "Selma Levi" <slevi@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:24 PM

Subject: "If" stumper


Hi, This is a secondhand request from a school librarian's patron/teacher.
A book she claims is called "If" is all about whimsical animals and
statements such as "If zebras had stars and stripes". She read the book
last year. This is all she could get out of the teacher. It is not
What If? by Shipton...Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Selma

Selma K. Levi
Supervisor, Children's Department
slevi@epfl.net
410-396-5402

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From: "Donnae Tidwell" <donnae-tidwell@ci.santa-monica.ca.us>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:24 PM

Subject: Friend/Garden Stumper Solved


Original Description:
I am trying to find a book that I read as a child during the 1980s. The book was about a man that lived alone with his cat. His friend would bring the man groceries. One day the man ran out of groceries and tried to make a banana stew. The meal was so bad that he went out trying to find something to eat in the woods. There he caught fish and harvested watercress, apples, and nuts. When his friend came back the man shared with him what he had gathered and learned. The man also asked the friend to bring him seeds so he could plant a garden in the spring. The man planted the garden and grew a spectacular crop. Do you know the author and title of the book? I have searched everywhere I can think of and can't find even a reference to this book. The illustrations make me think it was produced in the 1970s or 80s.

And the Answer Is:
The Man Who Cooked for Himself by Phyllis Krasilovsky

Thanks to Kris Chipps and Aki Munnell!


Donnae Marie Tidwell, MLIS
Santa Monica Public Library

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From: "Christine L. Tyner" <tynercl@yahoo.com>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:25 PM

Subject: Poetry cafe for Teen Read Week


Hi all. I just got back from my Teen Advisory Board
meeting and my teens are excited about doing a poetry
jam/cafe for TRW. I know the basics about running one
from this list and articles I've read, but I'm still
looking for any great nuggets of advice from those of
you who've had a successful cafe. I'm especially
interested in advice on what to do if people come to
listen but not perform...or if performers run out way
before the program is over...or if a performer doesn't
want to stop. The teens were pretty adament about no
time limits, but I still want to be prepared in case.
Also, wording for flyers/guidelines about appropriate
language, etc. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Please email tynercl@yahoo.com.

Thanks,
Christine

=====
Christine L. Robinson
Betty Warmack Branch Library
Grand Prairie, TX
972-237-5773
972-237-5779 fax
tynercl@yahoo.com

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From: "Amy Newcomb" <draekan58@hotmail.com>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:26 PM

Subject: Research paper


I'm conductiong research to write an Issues paper for my Library Science
class and my topic is: Should adults be allowed iin to the children's
section of the library?

I'd appreciate any links to articles, or personal experiences I could use in
writng my paper.

I can be reached at draekan58@hotmail.com

If you have a personal experience to relate, please let me know who you are
so I can put you in my citations.

Thank you,

Amy Newcomb

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From: "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:26 PM

Subject: book group for Jennifer


Sorry to post this to the whole group, but hopefully it'll be helpful.
Jennifer had sent me an e-mail wanting to know about my book group but my
reply got bounced back.

Hi, Jennifer! Thanks for the e.

My book group is for 9-12 year olds and meets once a month, in the evening,
for half an hour. The kids read the book first.

They have been asking for soda and snacks, something I started way back when
but stopped when we ran out of room to store them. We always start with a
word game of some kind- crossword puzzle, word search, hang-man, Bingo, or
mad-lib. For most of these, the way to go is puzzlemaker.com. They're the
best. For the BINGO you can try
http://teachers.teach-nology.com/web_tools/materials/bingo/3
<http://teachers.teach-nology.com/web_tools/materials/bingo/3> . The sheets
never contain the clues or the words to look for otherwise you'd have the
kids going in all different directions. I have the clues separate and ask
the kids questions from the book in order to enable them to know what word
to look for or fill in (Where did Allie & Dub find their information about
ghosts? That's right, the Internet- and Internet is what they would write
down or try to find).

The questions I ask seem to be more general than specific (Nicole won a
million dollars on TV. What would you do with a million dollars?). This
way everyone can have something to say even if they didn't get to finish the
book.

We may also do some acting. I prepare a reader's theatre version of a
passage and usually abridge it slightly. I try to find the passage with the
most speaking parts. The parts are usually determined by numbers. The kids
pick a number from 1-6 (or however many parts there are) and then whoever
has number 1 has x part- Allie, for example. The narrator I usually break
into at least 2, since they usually have the most to say. It goes much more
smoothly if it's typed out as opposed to just photocopied...

At it's height I was averaging 11 or 12 kids. Now I'm back down to about 6.
Still not bad and certainly more manageable. The meetings are very relaxed.


Before they leave, btw, they all get a prize for coming. It relates to the
book in some way. I order them mainly from Oriental Trading
(orientaltrading.com, I think) and it comes out to be less than a dollar a
prize, usually even less than 50 cents.

Some of my more well attended programs/my favorite titles were:
Ghost of Fossil Glen- Cynthia De Felice= 9.5 out of 10!
Frindle- Andrew Clements= The best! (for younger kids, though.
Maybe 4th or 5th)
Haunted Summer- Betty Ren Wright
Time for Andrew- Mary Downing Hahn
Can of Worms- Kathy Mackel
Secret Journey; Blizzard Disaster; Earthquake Terror- Peg Kehret
How Can a Frozen Detective Stay Hot on the Trail?- Linda Bailey
(or any of the Stevie Diamond titles)

Best of luck and drop me a line if you have any other questions or needed
anything else. Take care and enjoy the weekend.

Richard Bryce
West Milford Township Library
bryce@palsplus.org

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From: "Amy Kiefer" <a.kiefer@lanepl.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:00 PM

Subject: stumper-answer (left foot right foot)


Thanks to all who responded to my stumper about the children walking in the
rain with the common phrase left foot, right foot repeated on each page.

The answer is: Make-Believe Parade. (author: Jan Margo) (published in 1949).
We found out that the repeated phrase is: left foot, right foot, hay foot,
straw foot. (You all are so great! This one was a toughie.)


Thanks again for all of your responses!



Amy Kiefer
Lane Public Library
a.kiefer@lanepl.org

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From: "Fae Griffith" <fgriffit@mail.win.org>

To: "susan sutton" <susansutton_99@yahoo.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:01 PM

Subject: Re: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story


As a school librarian, I had great success with DON'T FORGET THE BACON by
Pat Hutchins and even more success with SOAP, SOAP! DON'T FORGET THE SOAP:
AN APPALACHIAN FOLK-TALE by Tom Birdeye. The children loved the
repetitiveness and often joined in after the first few pages.
Fae S. Griffith, Retired School Librarian
Part Time Public Librarian

jmail
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, susan sutton wrote:

> After sharing so many of pubyac's ideas, one of my
> co-workers asked if I might post a request for her.
> Every year she does a first grade booktalk for all the
> elementary schools in our area. Last year she read
> and had the kids act out with her The Gigantic Turnip.
> This year she'd like to do something equally as cool,
> but hasn't been able to come up with anything yet.
> Has anyone done a story like this before, and would
> you please share your techniques in telling. Thanks!

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From: <susanna.holstein@kanawha.lib.wv.us>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>; <susansutton_99@yahoo.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:02 PM

Subject: re: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story




Have your co-worker look at books by Margaret Read MacDonald, a=20
storyteller, long-time children's librarian and folklorist who has over =

30 titles published. Her picture books are excellent for this type of=20
sharing, and her story collections are written with participation in=20
mind. For more information about her books, visit her website=20
http://www.margaretreadmacdonald.com/

I highly recommend these titles by her for reading or telling with=20
audience participation:

Picture books:
Fat Cat=20
The Little Old Woman Who Lived in a Vinegar Bottle
The Girl Who Wore Too Much
Mabela the Clever
Picking Peas
Slop! A Welsh Folk Tale

>From Storytellers Start-Up Book:
Turtle of Koka

>From When the Lights Go Out: 23 Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark:
(Organized into six sections=96Not Too Scary, Scary in the Dark, Gross=20
Stuff, Jump Tales, Tales to Act Out, and Tales to Draw or Stir Up)
Wizard Clip
Going on a Ghost Hunt

Susanna Holstein
Branch Services Manager
Kanawha County Public Library=20
123 Capitol St
Charleston WV 25301
304-343-4646
http://kanawha.lib.wv.us
susanna.holstein@kanawha.lib.wv.us

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From: "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:02 PM

Subject: Re: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story


I like "The Little Old Lady Who Was Not Afraid of Anything" by Linda
Williams. Great for October. The kids in the audience act out all the
motions and volunteer kids hold each piece of clothing. At the end you have
an assembled scarecrow on a stick that you pull out. You can either use
real clothes (and use a second set of the same for the scarecrow) or make
them from laminated construction paper and assemble the scarecrow with a
second set held together with paper fasteners. A nice touch is to have the
storyteller sitting in a rocking chair.

Other good interactive stories to pair with this are: Big Pumpkin by Erica
Silverman (again act out with volunteers, audience choruses out the repeated
words), and One Dark Night by Edna Mitchell Preston (ditto).

On a non-holiday note, I've had very good luck with "The Three Billy Goats
Gruff" (Folkmanis has a good set of puppets for these as well). Fun to pair
with Jan Brett's "The Trouble with Trolls" and Patricia Rae Wolff's "The
Toll-Bridge Troll."

Carol and Gary Levin
144 Smoke Rise Road
Bedminster NJ 07921
908 781 6041
Enjoy Life! This is not a Dress Rehearsal!
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From: "susan sutton" <susansutton_99@yahoo.com>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: Interactive Fairy or Folk Story

End of PUBYAC Digest 1226