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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1237
Date: 10/9/03 11:05:57 PM

            PUBYAC Digest 1237

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Pubyac lost Santa Script
    by "Brenda Evans" <evans@madison-jeffco.lib.in.us>
  2) "clean" YA romances
    by "Kristin Arnett" <karnett@pcl.lib.wa.us>
  3) RE: Help!  Hello Baby by Rockwell-alikes
    by wilterding <wilterding@tarleton.edu>
  4) Stumper Solved--Hamburger Island
    by "Mary Palmer" <Mary.Palmer@spl.org>
  5) Egyptian fiction compilation
    by "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
  6) Copyright question
    by LochWouters@menashalibrary.org
  7) Halloween @ your library
    by Stephanie Stokes <stephanie@ssdesign.com>
  8) First Grade, First Card program for multi-branch systems
    by "Lisa Crandall" <crandalll@cadl.org>
  9) Stumper: Angel Wing Ointment Book
    by "Kirsten Klinghammer" <klingham@avantac.com>
10) Middle Schooler Fiction
    by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
11) Re: Halloween @ your library
    by N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>

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From: "Brenda Evans" <evans@madison-jeffco.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Pubyac lost Santa Script
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:41:54 CDT

Dear Great Brains,
I have been rummaging in some of our very old files and have found patterns
for the flannelboard story, SANTA MAKES A CHANGE by Sol Chaneles.
Unfortunately, there is no script to the flannelboard and I can only guess
at the words.  The book is out of print.  Do any of you have the words to
this? Thank you.
Brenda Evans, Children's Librarian
Madison-Jefferson County Public Library
420 West Main Street
Madison, IN  47250
(812) 265-2744
evans@madison-jeffco.lib.in.us

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From: "Kristin Arnett" <karnett@pcl.lib.wa.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: "clean" YA romances
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:42:14 CDT

I often have requests for "clean" YA romance novels. So Christie Miller
and the China Tate series are fine, but I'm always looking for more --
not necessarily Christian ones, but ones without a lot of sex, drugs,
etc.. The latest patron with this question is in 8th grade - a strong
reader - and has read the above series, liked Star Girl, and some
historical romances, but would love more contemporary suggestions. Any
suggestions of your favorites would be appreciated. You can email me
offlist.

Kristin Arnett
Youth Services Librarian
karnett@pcl.lib.wa.us

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From: wilterding <wilterding@tarleton.edu>
To: KatrinaN@moval.org, pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Help!  Hello Baby by Rockwell-alikes
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:42:37 CDT

If you want to (and can) order another copy of this book, you might try
searching AddAll Books (www.addall.com) for the book.  I seached by
Rockwell's
name and found sources for both the library bound and paperback issues.

Hope this information is useful,
Cathy Wilterding

>===== Original Message From KatrinaN@moval.org =====
>Yikes!  I just discovered our last copy of "Hello Baby" by Lizzy
>Rockwell in tatters, only to find that the publisher lists this title as
>"permanently out of stock"!!  Does anyone have any favorites that go
>along the same lines as this title?  All responses are greatly
>appreciated!
>
>Katrina
>
>Katrina Neville
>Children's Librarian
>City of Moreno Valley
>25480 Alessandro Blvd.
>Moreno Valley, CA 92553
>t: 909-413-3880
>f: 909-247-8346
>e: katrinan@moval.org=20
>w: www.moreno-valley.ca.us=20

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From: "Mary Palmer" <Mary.Palmer@spl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper Solved--Hamburger Island
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:43:00 CDT

THANKS to Jen Marin:
This sounds like GIANTS COME IN DIFFERENT SIZES by Jolly roger
Bradfield.
You can see more info (and a picture of the cover) at
http://www.logan.com/loganberry/most-bradfield.html
You have to scroll down rather far to see the cover and mention of the
book.

Jen Marin
marinj@suffolk.lib.ny.us

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Mary Palmer wrote:

> Here is the stumper from a patron. Please e-mail me if it sounds
> familiar to anyone. THANKS!
>
> I'm trying to find a children's book from my past. It was oversize,
> hardcover, probably from early 1960s. Story about a king and a small
> island kingdom (possibly called Hamburger Island). It had color
> illustrations of the island. I can't remember the name of it and
> wondered if a children's librarian might know.

> Thank you very much.
>  Mary.Palmer@spl.org
>



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From: "Kim Dolce" <kdolce@co.volusia.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Egyptian fiction compilation
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:43:22 CDT

Many thanks to all who submitted titles for fiction set in ancient Egypt.
I have a home school mom who is looking for good titles, and you certainly
provided her with plenty to choose from! I've provided a compilation here
for anyone else who's interested. They're in no particular order. Thanks
again,
Kim Dolce
Port Orange, FL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Escape from Egypt by Sonia Levitin
His Majesty, Queen Hatshepsut by Dorothy Carter
Mara, Daughter of the Nile by Eloise McGraw
Miriam by Beatrice Gormley
For All Time by Caroling Cooney
The Reluctant God by Pamela Service
The Cat of Bubastes: A Tale of Ancient Egypt by G.A. Henty
The Wadjet Eye by Jill Rubalcaba
the egypt game_ by zilpha keatley snyder
Pharaoh's daughter" by Julius Lester
Bradshaw, Gillian - The Dragon & the Thief
Carter, Dorothy Sharp - His Majesty, Queen Hatshepsut
Cooney, Caroline B. - For all Time
Gormley, Beatrice - Miriam
Holder, Nancy - Scarabian Nights
Lester, Julius - Pharaoh's Daughter
McDonald, Collin - Nightwaves: Scary Tales for After Dark
Williams, Mark London - Ancient Fire
Rubalcaba - A Place in the Sun
Tut, Tut
The Moon in the Cloud  - Rosemary Harris
The Shadow on the Sun -    Rosemary Harris
The Bright  and Morning Star -  Rosemary Harris
The Land of Gold - Gillian Bradshaw

Pauline Gedge -  adult fiction titles

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From: LochWouters@menashalibrary.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Copyright question
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:43:41 CDT

Our library did a radio show on our local public radio station in the
early eighties.  We read stories over the air (told jokes, played songs
and promoted reading and the library).  We needed to get copyright
permission for all on-air readings of copyrighted books.  Each half show
featured 4-5 books.  In order to get those 4-5 permissions we usually
requested permission on 20-22 books from publishers.  Some publishers
never replied; some charged an exorbitant fee (we were public radio and
could afford an ocassional $25); and some were very gracious in granting
permission.  We did permission requests six months out so had enough
lead time to plan programs when replies were tardy or not forthcoming.
Although we tried to find good public domain read-alouds, that was more
of a struggle - many just didn't translate over the air. Oh, our music
(tapes at that time!) were covered by blanket AMI licenses that the radio
station maintained.  You may find your broadcast station has generic
copyright
permission forms you can use to request any book permissions.

Good luck!
Marge L-W

> Great Brain,
>       I have been approached about doing a 20-30 min. story time to be
> broadcast on our local radio station.  I think it's a super opportunity to
> reach the public but I am concerned with copyright infringement.  If my
> library decides to do this, will I have to stick with stories that are
> public domain or can I read any book from our collection?
>     My director and I have been puzzeling over this and she suggested I
> see if any of you have had a similar problem.  Any suggestions you give me
> willbe appreciated.  You may respond to me and I will post the
information.
>
> Jamie Holtsclaw
> Children's Librarian
> Greensburg Public Library
> jholtscl@in-span.net
> www.greensburglibrary.org
>


Marge Loch-Wouters
Head of Children's Services
Menasha's Public Library
440 First St
Menasha WI  54952
920 967-5166, ex 700
lochwouters@menashalibrary.org

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From: Stephanie Stokes <stephanie@ssdesign.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Halloween @ your library
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:44:04 CDT

    OK....you godda....no...have to check-out this Web Site!
    The library programming/partnership is to die for!
    Well-l-l Halloween is coming....

This October, it's BOO time! No bones about it, when Chicago
celebrates Halloween, it's so big we call it Chicagoween!
"Chicagoween" is a series of events and activities in
celebration of Halloween that will take place in neighborhoods,
parks, libraries, and cultural institutions throughout the city
during the month of October.

Chicago Public Library's OctoBOO Web Site
http://www.chipublib.org/008subject/003cya/octoboo/octoboo.html

    So how about sharing your library's Halloween treat. I'll share
    bookmarks and Web graphics free for the taking and a Web link.

    http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/content/p100400a.shtml
    http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/content/p110398a.shtml
    http://avel.library.uq.edu.au/sci-tech/halloween2000.html

    Stephanie Stokes, "Library Media & PR"


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From: "Lisa Crandall" <crandalll@cadl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: First Grade, First Card program for multi-branch systems
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:44:26 CDT

Hi all,

I have a question that has arisen at one of our Youth Services committee
meetings.  Our library system is looking into implementing a "First Grade,
First Card" program that has been very successful at libraries across the
country.  In this program, the public library attempts to give every first
grader within their community his or her first library card. However, we
only have nitty-gritty information about how to implement it from libraries
that are single entities (not county-wide systems such as ours).  Our
library system consists of most of Ingham County, Michigan and would
incorporate several cities and towns, and their various school districts.
For those of you at library systems with multiple branches, have you
implemented such a program on a system-wide basis?  And if so, would you be
willing to share details of how it worked?  We are especially interested if
you were able to implement the program across your system while still being
able to maintain flexibility (i.e. branches having to deal with different
policies at different school districts, branches wanting to do the program
at different times during the year, etc.)  Please respond to me off list at
crandalll@cadl.org.  If there is interest, I will compile a list for those
who have similar interest (unless there is enormous clamoring for a PUBYAC
posting).

Thanks all for your help,

Lisa Crandall
Youth Services Librarian
Holt-Delhi Library
Capital Area District Library
2078 Aurelius Road
Holt, MI  48842
(517) 694-9351
crandalll@cadl.org

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From: "Kirsten Klinghammer" <klingham@avantac.com>
To: <Pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: Angel Wing Ointment Book
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 19:44:51 CDT

There's a children's book I have been looking for for years, but I can't
remember the title, and no one I've asked is familiar with it; if you
don't mind, I'd like to bounce this off of all of you :-)

The main character is a boy of about 8-10 years of age who has no
friends (I think he's shy).  One day, he finds/is given/somehow comes into
possession of a bottle of ointment or lotion which allows a person to grow
wings
like an angel.  He uses it, and enjoys flying around in the evenings.  The
only adventure I remember is that he's flying over a park, or someplace else
with a lake, when he hears someone screaming.  He investigates, and sees
someone with a boat which is sinking.  He rescues that person, and begins to
gain self-confidence in himself.  By the end of the book, he has begun to
make friends with other people.

The book was probably published in the 1970's or before, and doesn't
have a religious theme (in spite of the wings).  I found it delightful, and
I'd
like to buy myself a copy if I can figure out which book it is.

Thank you for your time,

Kirsten
****
Kirsten Klinghammer
Sacramento Deaf Services Library Foundation
www.sacdeaflib.org
klingham@avantac.com (preferred)
kirsten_klinghammer@hotmail.com (backup)

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From: "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Middle Schooler Fiction
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:39:16 -0600
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Thanks to all who responded to my question (9/30, Digest 1229) about
developing a fiction collection for middle schoolers.

Break down of fiction collections:
* By Grades (4 levels) - Easy Readers: K-2/3; Transitional: 3-5; JFic: 6-8;
YA: 9+

* By Grades (4 levels) - Easy (E); Juvenile (J): 2-5; Youth (Y): 5-8; YA:
8+. J and Y are interfiled, but will be separated in the new building. YA
hardbacks have stickers and are interfiled with adult; YA paperbacks are
shelved together.

* By Ages (3 levels) - 7-10; 10-14; 15-18 (typical user is 12-13). Reading
level of 2nd and 3rd level is the same, but protagonist of 2nd level tends
to be younger and content excludes sexual references and/or graphic
violence. Sometimes copies of same title are in both collections.

* Youth and YA as one collection

* Young Adult collection for middle school students; high school students
use adult section. "Except for large libraries ....I am not sure a Young
Adult section geared for high school kids is justified."

* 2 separate hardback collections (green YA stickered) "Juvenile YA" for 6-8
and (red YA stickered) "YA" for 9-12. Paperbacks are mixed.

* "Intermediate collection ...for works that are conceptually and
semantically more challenging than your average book for elementary kids....
Most Newberry winners would then end up in the intermediate collection (and)
many of the fantasy books that we are seeing lately."

* Children's collection through 6th grade; YA is 7th + (juvenile fiction
collection had been divided into from 2 levels; change was made with new
building)

Benefits:
* Reading advisory easier
* Easier for kids to browse and find materials at their level without
sorting through irrelevant titles
* Increased interest by teens, who thought library had nothing for them
* "Patrons love"; parents appreciate
* Titles for older YA are often not ordered by Youth Services or YA and
bypassed by adult services; "too much room for books to slip through the
cracks leaving books with inappropriate content on the J shelves and
"babyish" books on the YA shelves."
* "-Rodzina_ by Cushman is another example of a book with no clear home.
Some of these books are really wonderful, but I feel they are missing their
audience because some middle school students won't be caught dead in the
'little kids' section and the teens roll their eyes when they see the
protagonist is twelve."
* "(An intermediate) collection would hold books that were challenging to
read but wouldn't necessarily challenge the reader's concept of self like
the best young adult books ca do. The middle school years are definitely a
different time period for kids and there are definitely books that fit this
period. With an intermediate collection, you won't have difficulty deciding
where to put all those darn books that have grade recommendations like 4-7
or 5-8."

Disadvantages:
* Confusion among staff about where books are (solved by labeling TR or JFic
and color coded-dots)
* Titles by an author are not necessarily in the same collection - some
might be for grades 6-8; some for grades 9-12.
* Recataloging materials to accommodate new collection
* No absolute assurance that books in section for younger kids are "safe"
* Deciding where a title belongs

Names:
* JFic
* Youth
* Preteen
* "don't call it a tween collection.....giving a collection a cute name will
undoubtedly cause kids to flee in groves."

Other Comments
* Popular titles for grades 5/6/7: Hoot, Star Girl, Surviving the
Applewhites, Coraline, Alice Series, Dave at Night, Harry Potter, Artemis
Fowl, Misfits, Sammy Keyes Series, Judy Blue "teen" titles, No More Dead
Dogs, titles by Bruce Coville
* "Patrons should be educated to look closely at books to ascertain its
'danger quotient'. If we use the logic that putting a more mature book for
ages 14-18 next to a non-objectionable book for ages 11-13, then isn't the
same logic true for sending the 14 year old to Adult Services. Couldn't they
find worse books sitting adjacent to them there?"
* "I feel that a preteen collection is an emerging fiction classification
and hope to collect some data that illustrates that the classification
affects the circulation."
* "There is definitely some reason to be concerned about the "Adult" in
Young Adult."

Diane Chladil
Head of Collection Development
Kokomo-Howard County Public Library

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From: N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Halloween @ your library
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2003 22:40:00 CDT

At our library, we have an Annual Storybook Trick or
treat. We have a big meeting room that we fill with 11
or 12 themed tables. The children trick or treat at
each table getting items like stickers, small toys and
some candy.

The Storybook part is each table is a storybook theme
as in Old MacDonald's Farm with someone dressed as Old
MacDonald. We also get costumed characters. In the
past we've had: Madeline, Spot, Froggy, Max the Bunny,
etc.

It's 2 hours long ans always a huge hit with the kids

Natalie

=====
Natalie Korsavidis
Youth Services Librarian
Farmingdale Public Library

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