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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1267

    PUBYAC Digest 1267

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: teen Friday the 13th program
by Stephanie Stokes <stephanie@ssdesign.com>
  2) YA Holiday Program
by Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com>
  3) Policies on events in the library
by Pam Gravenor <pam.gravenor@ncc.govt.nz>
  4) harry potter movie
by rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us
  5) Holiday Bingo Cards
by "Chris Gibrich" <library_groupie@hotmail.com>
  6) Re: Reply button
by Casabonita@aol.com
  7) YA programming
by Jerdawn282@cs.com
  8) To Reply or Not to Reply
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
  9) Re: Reply button
by "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
 10) Spiderwick book discussion?
by jrines@ocln.org
 11) Stumper--Multicultural possessions
by "Barb Landers" <blanders@illinoisalumni.org>
 12) stumper
by "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.org>
 13) RE: Reply button
by Leslie Hauschildt <lhauscht@jefferson.lib.co.us>
 14) Reply to sender
by Rjohc@aol.com
 15) Stumper-early 20th century Cinderella in verse
by "Rebecca Cohen" <storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
 16) 3 stumpers bunny, butter and brat
by "Ann Job" <patiencejob@hotmail.com>
 17) Re: Looking for fingerplays and/or songs (Big and Little theme)
by "Christine Attinasi" <chrisbeth@excite.com>
 18) Re: PUBYAC digest 1266
by Kara Cervelli <kcervelli@yahoo.com>

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From: Stephanie Stokes <stephanie@ssdesign.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: teen Friday the 13th program
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:26:06 CST

At 12:01 AM 11/14/03 "Kathy Percoco" <kpercoco@clarklibrary.org>
>I'm planning my winter teen programs, ....our pre-teen and
>teen volunteers on Friday the 13th, this coming February.
>
>Do you have any experiences or ideas you'd be willing to share?

I have a couple of *Friday the 13th* bookmarks you can
help yourself to...
http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/content/p101100a.shtml

Stephanie Stokes, Library Media & PR
http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/

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From: Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: YA Holiday Program
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:29:01 CST

Greetings All~
I am looking for a simple holiday craft program for
Young Adults.  I would like for them to make a gift
for someone.  I have thought of pop-up greeting cards
and decorating ornaments with paint pens.  Does anyone
have a succesful holiday craft program for teens you
would be willing to share?

Reply to me at heatherlynnu@yahoo.com and I will
compile the responses.

Thanks for your time in advance.

-Heather

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From: Pam Gravenor <pam.gravenor@ncc.govt.nz>
To: "Pubyac (E-mail)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Policies on events in the library
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:29:24 CST

Does anyone have a policy on the staging of special events in the library?
E.g. all such events must demonstrably contribute towards library
objectives.  Or perhaps guidelines on how to ensure special events are used
to promote services or materials?
And if so, do you apply these to events staged by library staff, external
people, or both?
If you have anything like this, I'd be interested to see them.
Thanks very much

Pam Gravenor
Children's and Young Adults' Librarian
Nelson Public Libraries
Nelson
New Zealand

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From: rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us
To: pubyac listserv <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: harry potter movie
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:31:46 CST

Hi everyone--

I'm planning on going to see the Looney Tunes movie tonight, partly because
the POA trailer will be with it, and I actually felt a little twinge of
nervousness about the whole production.

That made me wonder if any of the rest of you have heard things from kids,
teens, adults, etc. about the third movie--around here everyone's favorite
of the HP series is number 3, and I just wonder how will fans embrace the
new director, the obviously grown up kids and the different look this movie
will have.  And the fact that their favorite book is now a visual, instead
of just their imagination.

Just curious...

:) ruhama

Ruhama Kordatzky
Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library
rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us

"Ah, the city: museums, culture, and, my favorite, libraries!"
--Edd from Ed, Edd and Eddy

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From: "Chris Gibrich" <library_groupie@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Holiday Bingo Cards
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:32:22 CST

Good afternoon!
I have a weird question for y'all...  I am in the middle of trying to create
Holiday Bingo Cards to use at our Teen Holiday party in mid-December.  I
have the card maker, but I'm coming up blank on what to use for the
entries...  I don't want to center on Christmas things (Christmas movies and
Christmas carols have been suggested) because we have teens of a variety of
different beliefs coming to programs, and I don't want to offend anyone.
Does anyone have a vocabulary list of Holiday words that reflect a variety
of different religions, or no religions?

Thanks in advance!

:)  christie

Christie Gibrich
Teen/ Young Adult Services Librarian
Roanoke Public Library
308 S. Walnut
Roanoke, Texas 76262

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From: Casabonita@aol.com
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Reply button
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:32:46 CST

Hi, Shannon -

I much prefer it set this way.  I'd rather accidentally send to just one
person than vice versa.  If my posting does not go through, I can re-send my
original posting to the list.  It can sometimes be embrarrassing to have a
personal
note go to the whole list.  It also makes one think before sending a posting
out to everyone - I'm sure I'm not the only one getting hundreds of e-mails
a
day, so I do appreciate it if people pause a minute to decide if the reply
should really go to the whole list or not; having it set to private reply
forces
us to do this.

Vivian

Vivian Cisneros
MLIS student, University of North Texas
casabonita@aol.com



> Moderator:  Jennifer, I changed the PUBYAC settings about two months ago
to
> see if the "reply-to-sender" option would cut down a bit on the number of
> misdirected e-mails that PUBYAC was getting for Stumper and Bibliography
> answers.  I noticed Ithat PUBYAC would get 20 answers for a stumper when
> they are supposed to go directly to the original sender instead.  So if a
> person wants to answer a question to PUBYAC, they have to make sure that
> they do indeed put pubyac@prairienet.org into the To: line.
>

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From: Jerdawn282@cs.com
To: Pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: YA programming
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:33:07 CST


Just wanted to say thanks to all of you who answered my questions about the
hows and whys of teen programming.  I appreciate you taking the time!
Dawn

Dawn Wacek
"I have always imagined that paradise will be a kind of library."
       ---jorge luis borges (1899-1986)

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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: To Reply or Not to Reply
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:33:29 CST

Shannon,

Do whatever makes less work for you.  You have the yeoman's/unsung
heroine's job here, and we reap all the benefits.  I can't imagine all the
stuff you have to sift through, and all our messes you  have to clean up.
I don't think anyone will begrudge taking a little more time to make your
job a tad easier.

Lin Look
(who needs to cut and paste the address of the listserv; no biggie)
Contra Costa County, CA
llook@ccclib.org

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From: "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
To: <jennifersalt@hotmail.com>,<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Reply button
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:33:50 CST

I like being able to hit reply and having the message go straight to the
original poster.  That way, if they want to post the message, they can,
but we aren't cluttering up PUBYAC.  Just my two cents!



Stacey Irish-Keffer
Denton Public Library
502 Oakland
Denton, Texas 76201
940.349.7738
Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com

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From: jrines@ocln.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Spiderwick book discussion?
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:38:21 CST

Hello all you wonderful people!
     Does anyone happen to have questions for a book discussion of the
first Spiderwick Chronicles book the Field Guide? We have a program
scheduled for next Wednesday evening and the staff member who was
doing the program is in the hospital with back problems. I'm starting
the book right now and will check out the author's website after
lunch but thought I would ask on the off chance someone has already
done this.
Thanks,
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org

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From: "Barb Landers" <blanders@illinoisalumni.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper--Multicultural possessions
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:38:40 CST


The following was sent to me by one of our branch managers:

I hope someone can help me with this question:
I have a patron who once ordered in a book that was in a DK format. It
showed pictures of various families around the world, and it showed the
family outside their home, with all of their possessions around them.
One family was from Great Britain, another from a country in Africa.
Does this ring a bell with anybody?

TIA for any suggestions!

Barb Landers
Wayne County Public Library
Wooster, Ohio
blanders@wayne.lib.oh.us

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From: "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.org>
To: "Pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:39:01 CST

I am wondering if any of you recognize this story.  The question came to me
from one our branches, and since I didn't speak with the patron I don't have
much info to go on, just this vague description.
Thanks in advance,
Ruth

A patron asked me to locate a kids book.  I believe it was E, not
> sure. The story went like this...."all by myself, I can mix up a
> cake but we need each other to eat it."  etc, etc.  (not sure about
> the cake, exactly, but that is the gist of the story).  Anybody got
> any ideas for a title so I can order this for her??

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From: Leslie Hauschildt <lhauscht@jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'jennifersalt@hotmail.com'" <jennifersalt@hotmail.com>,
Subject: RE: Reply button
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:39:23 CST

Hi all -

I am deliberately choosing the reply to all button - which means both
Jennifer and PUBYAC will get this email.

I noticed the change a couple of weeks ago, and I thought at the time that
we (well actually, Shannon) had figured out a way to make it so the way we
were supposed to respond to stumpers and bib requests would happen as easily
as possible.  Which it turns out is exactly what happened.  I love it!


Leslie Hauschildt
Head, Children's Information Services
Evergreen Library Jefferson County Public Library
5000 Highway 73, Evergreen, CO  80439
303-674-0780     303-670-7001 (fax)
lhauscht@jefferson.lib.co.us
Find us on the Web!  info.jefferson.lib.co.us

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From: Rjohc@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Reply to sender
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:39:45 CST

I like having the reply go to the individual. As Shannon says one can always
click on the PUBYAC link instead, which is just what I did to express my
opinion.

Thanks Shannon for all the work that you do for this wonderful listserv. If
you are ever in Pittsburgh again it would be great to meet you as a fellow
Pitt
graduate and colleague.

Robyn Hammer-Clarey
Teen Librarian
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh

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From: "Rebecca Cohen" <storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper-early 20th century Cinderella in verse
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:40:19 CST

Dear Pubyaccers,

Here's a doozy!  Patron seeks a Cinderella variant written in verse that she
loved as a child (She's in her 80's).  She recalls that it is written with a
cadence similar to "Twas the Night Before Christmas" and quoted (!) me these
lines:

Get back in your kitchen and the work you have to do,
Do you think the prince so foolish as to marry a girl like you?

Patron says it is not "Cinderella retold in verse", 1943, by Alice Duer
Miller.

I've searched all the usual suspects; A to Zoo, Children's Catalog, numerous
large library databases, googled it, FirstSearch, HELPPPPP!!!!

Thanks so much for any and all assistance,

Rebecca Cohen
Newport Public Library
Newport, Oregon

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From: "Ann Job" <patiencejob@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: 3 stumpers bunny, butter and brat
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:40:42 CST

Greetings,

My assistant recently asked for a book her adult daughter was looking for
which led to two other stumpers. Any help would be appreciated. All the
usual suspects were checked ( A to Zoo, Amazon, Children's Catalog, etc.)

1. A picture book about a Easter (?) bunny who uses his whiskers to paint
eggs. The reader remembers that something in the story is related to Japan
because that was where she was born, and that she learned the word
"vermillion" from the story. The book was read in the 1960's, but may have
been older. It is not "The country bunny and the little gold shoes."

2. A chapter book about a fatherless farm family with 4 or 5 daughters.
There is a section where they describe making apple butter from fresh cider.
A woman in the story laments that her daughter-in-law (?) thinks that apple
butter was just scorched apple sauce (I recently scorched my applesauce
which brought the story to mind). Also, the mother becomes a mid-wife and
asks the older daughters to explain where babies come from to the younger
ones, there are no details in the story, but the girls' reaction is that
it's just like the farm animals. Read in the mid 1960's and there was a note
the story was based on the author's aunt or great aunt.

3. A chapter book about a girl who goes to live on an army base in
California with her father. Lots of details remembered from the story. She
lives at first with her grandmother and another female relative who knit. It
takes two days to travel west and they stay over in a hotel. The girl is
afraid at first of her father's Houseboy (sic), and eats oranges from a tree
in their yard and washes her own clothes in a sink when her trunk is late to
avoid him. Late in the story she skins her knees and is taken to the
infirmary by a general, who admires her bravery when iodine is poured on the
wounds. The book was read in the 1960's, but was most likely from the 1950's
(the Houseboy, iodine) or slightly earlier, definitaly post WWII.

Please e-mail me off list at patiencejob@hotmail.com


Ann Job
Montville Twp Public Library
Montville, NJ






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From: "Christine Attinasi" <chrisbeth@excite.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Looking for fingerplays and/or songs (Big and Little theme)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:41:02 CST


Hi Stacie:) Here are some big and little songs I found from
www.everythingpreschool.com (this is a great resource, I use it often to
find songs and fingerplays for my storyhours):
Big and Little Clocks
Big clocks tick so slowly, Tick, tock, tick, tock (Sing Slowly)Little clocks
tick faster, tick tock, tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock. (Sing
Faster)Watches on your wrist go faster, tick-a-tock-a, tick-a-tock-a,
tick-a-tocka, tick (Sing Really Fast)
The Apple Seed
Once a little apple seed was planted in the groundDown came rain, falling
all around.Out came the sun as bright as it could be And that little seedIt
grew up to be a great big apple tree
I hope these suggestions are helpful to you, and good luck with your
storyhour!
Christine E. AttinasiYouth Services LibrarianOntario Public Library1850
Ridge Rd.Ontario, NY 14519Phone: (315) 524-8381Fax: (315) 524-5838E-mail:
cattinasi@pls-net.org

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From: Kara Cervelli <kcervelli@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: PUBYAC digest 1266
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:41:21 CST

Stacie,
for my big/little lapsit, I do the following rhymes:
(if you need the words, just let me know...

An Elephant
Mister Rabbit
Shoe a little horse
Clocks and Watches
Little Birdie
5 little monkeys
I saw a little birdie
Little green froggie am I
I had a little turtle
5 green peas
5 little ducks
3 little ducks
I'm a little teapot
Eency weency spider
I can make my baby smile
Little flea
Little mousie
This little piggy
This little pig-a-wig

..also, anything with little in the title ...
Little miss muffet
Little bo peep
Little boy blue

Hope this helps!

Kara Cervelli
Children's librarian
Perry Public Library
Perry, Ohio

--- PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
> From: "Barron, Stacie" <sbarron@jefferson.lib.la.us>
>
> I'm doing a Big and Little theme for my lapsit
> program. I'm having a =
> hard time finding fingerplays and/or songs to go
> along with this theme.  =
> Can someone suggest something?  Any help is greatly
> appreciated. 

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