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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
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To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:22 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1271
Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Compliation of Big and Little Fingerplays. (long) by "Barron, Stacie" <sbarron@jefferson.lib.la.us> 2) RE: What IS Madonna reading to her children by Stephanie Stokes <stephanie@ssdesign.com> 3) Discipline Issues in the Library by lingfltr@uiuc.edu 4) RE: Verizon Commercial by "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov> 5) Re: Parents and Discipline Issues by Jeannie Kunzinger <jkunzing@leaguecitylibrary.org> 6) Re: Verizon Commercial by "G Gallagher" <gglibrarian@hotmail.com> 7) RE: Parents and Discipline Issues by "Ellen Little" <elittle@pts.edu> 8) Re: Verizon commercial by Mitzi Thomas <mthomas@co.st-johns.fl.us> 9) Madonna's new book...on a positive note by Rebecca Amstutz <amstutre@oplin.org> 10) ethical dilemma by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org> 11) RE: What IS Madonna reading to her children?? by "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov> 12) RE: Parents and Discipline Issues by "Nicole Reader" <Nicole.Reader@ci.benicia.ca.us> 13) RE: What IS Madonna reading to her children?? by "Michelle Ornat" <mornat@CHESAPEAKE.LIB.VA.US> 14) Karen Hesse by "Kelly Czarnecki" <kczarnec@illinoisalumni.org> 15) re: Verizon commercial by "Paula Anderson" <paulaan@lori.state.ri.us> 16) Re: New forwarding process by MzLibrary@aol.com 17) looking for a bath time craft by "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net> 18) Egypt evening program by Erika Burge <eburge@esls.lib.wi.us> 19) Positions at the Dallas Public Library by Dale McNeill <dmcneill@dallaslibrary.org> 20) RE: Verizon commercial by Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us> 21) RE: Parents and Discipline Issues by Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us> 22) Mesh bags by "Theresa Maturevich" <theresam@ocln.org> 23) New library ideas (composite) by "Jeanne Steinbrenner" <jsteinbr@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Barron, Stacie" <sbarron@jefferson.lib.la.us> To: "Pubyac (E-mail)" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Compliation of Big and Little Fingerplays. (long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:28:48 CST Sorry this has taken me so long. I am switching jobs and have a lot to = do to make sure I don't leave things up in the air from one job to the = other. I'm finally getting around to this. Thank you all for sending = me in suggestions for fingerplays. I had brain freeze and just couldn't = think of anything. Stacie Barron Children's Librarian East Bank Regional Library 4747 W. Napoleon Metairie, LA 70001 (504) 849-8812 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------- Hi Stacie~ I can contribute the following to the cause: STILT MAN There was a great big stilt man, (Extend index fingers w/ 1 above other) Who was tall, t-a-l-l, t-a-l-l. (Widen distance between fingers) There was a little midget (Bring fingers closer together) Who was small, small, small. (Bring fingers close together) And the midget who was small (Wiggle bottom finger) Would try & t-r-y, & t-r-y, (Move bottom finger up a bit) To reach up to the stilt man (Keep moving top finger farther away) Who was tall, t-a-l-l, t-a-l-l. Hope this helps. Beverly Bixler bbixler@sanantonio.gov San Antonio Public Library, TX=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------- Five Little Fingers Five little fingers on one hand. (hold up hand) Two little feet on which to stand. (point to feet) Two little arms to hold up high. (raise arms) Watch me reach up to the sky. I'm a big Giraffe I'm a big giraffe stretching way up high, A big, tall giraffe, I almost reach the sky. I can eat leaves from the tallest trees, And when I run, I can move with ease. I'm a big giraffe stretching way up high. Way...up...high! Tall as a Tree Tall as a tree, (raise arms high) Big as a house (Arms out wide) Thin as a pin, (Hold arms at sides) Little as a mouse (Make self small) Mama's Little Baby Mama's little baby a kiss can blow, (blow a kiss) And rub noses just like so. (rub noses with baby) Two little hands can clap, clap, clap. (clap baby's hands together) Ten little toes can tap, tap, tap. (tap baby's toes) Songs Twinkle, Twinkle Little star, Five Little Ducks by Raffi, I'm a = little teapot -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------- Stacie, Sharon Lois and Bram do a version of the Incy Wincy Spider which alos = has the Teeny weeny spider and the Big Fat Spider. Perhaps you can work = with that?=20 Sheilah O'Connor Toronto Public library -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------- *The itsy bitsy spider is one rhyme. I forget the name of the CD I use, = but=20 the artist adds a line about the itsy bitsy spiders neighbor: . . .and right next door live the great big spider. The beat and the=20 gestures are more exagerrated than the itsy bitsy spiders. *I used a flannel board of the 3 bears to demonstrate big, medium and = small. *There is the rhyme about elephants going out to play on a spiders web: One elephant went out to play, out on spiders web one day. He had such enormous fun he called for another elephant to come. Two elephants..... (to a marching, upbeat tempo) I hope I've been helpful. Wanda Jones Children's Librarian Georgetown Neighborhood Library Washington, DC 20007 wjones98@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------- I have used the following: Rhyme- Here's a Ball Here's a ball (form circle with two hands) And here's a ball (move hands apart) And a great big ball I see. (form large circle with arms) Shall we count them? Are you ready? One, two, three! (repeat shapes, from smallest to largest) Rhyme- Sometimes I Am Tall Sometimes I am tall. (stand up straight) Sometimes I am small. (bend or crouch down) Sometimes I am very, very tall. (stand and stretch arms over head) Sometimes I am very, very small. (bend down toward floor) Sometimes tall, sometimes small, (stretch high, bend low) See how I am now! (stand up normally) Linda Anderson Nashville Public Library laanders@bellsouth.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------- I change the words for a second & third verse to Itsy Bitsy spider. I = have a=20 GREAT BIG spider and a TEENY TINY spider. We have to make the = appropriate=20 size spider during the verse. The idea comes from one of Sharon, Lois, = &=20 Bram's sound recordings. I 'll see If I can figure out which one and = get=20 back to you. Have fun-- Kimberly Venzon Children's Services Librarian -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------- How about doing the itsy bitsy spider in a little voice and then doing the GREAT BIG SPIDER in a GREAT BIG voice? My babies love this! Jen Dillon=20 Farmers Branch Manske Library jennifer.dillon@farmersbranch.info -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------- An Elephant Mister Rabbit Shoe a little horse Clocks and Watches Little Birdie 5 little monkeys I saw a little birdie Little green froggie am I I had a little turtle 5 green peas 5 little ducks 3 little ducks I'm a little teapot Eency weency spider I can make my baby smile Little flea Little mousie This little piggy This little pig-a-wig ..also, anything with little in the title ... Little miss muffet Little bo peep Little boy blue Hope this helps! Kara Cervelli Children's librarian Perry Public Library Perry, Ohio -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Murphy Austin Public Library elizabeth.murphy@ci.austin.tx.us Sometimes I am Tall Somethimes I am tall, Sometimes I am small. Sometimes I am very tall, Sometimes I am very small, Sometimes tall, Sometimes small, See how I am now? Now I Can Throw Now I can throw and catch a ball, And "oink" like a pig. I have finished being small, And started being BIG! Watch How Tall I'm Stretching =09 Watch how tall I'm stretching, =09 Watch how high I hop, =09 Watch how fast I'm running, =09 Watch how fast I STOP! =09 Show Me Something Big Show me something BIG, Show me something small. Spin in a circle but try not to fall Clap your hands, stomp your feet. Shake your arms, then take a seat. This is the Giant This is the giant who is tall, tall, tall. And this is the elf who is small, small, small. Then the little elf reached up high, high, high. To be as tall as the giant in the sky, sky, sky. How Big is Baby? How big is baby? Soooo big! Soooo big! How big is mousie? Sooo small! Sooo small. Songs Way Down South =09 Way down south where bananas grow, =09 A grasshopper stepped on an elephant's toe. =09 The elephant said with tears in his eyes, =09 "Pick on somebody your own size!" =09 =09 Grand Old Duke of York The grand old Duke of York, He had ten thousand men. He marched them up to the top of the hill=20 And he marched them down again. And when you're up, you're up, And when you're down, you're down. And when you're only half way up, You're neither up nor down. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------- Now Tall, Now Small I'm stretching very tall, And now I'm very small. Now tall, Now small, Now, I'm a tiny ball. (Do actions with the words.) You could also sing the "Itsy Bitsy Spider" once and then again as the "Great Big Spider" using GREAT BIG voices. Good luck! Stacey Irish-Keffer Denton Public Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------- Here's one about an elephant that I used a few weeks ago. The elephant goes like this and that=20 (make your arm an elephant trunk and swing side to side) He's terribly big and he's terribly fat (hold hands to side to indicate large size) He has no fingers, he has no toes (point to each) But goodness gracious, what a nose! =20 Jennifer Lee Ridgewood Branch Children's Librarian -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------- Here is a movement exercise I use that might work. I'm stretching very tall (stretch up) And now I'm very small (squat down) Now tall (stretch up) Now small (squat) Now I'm a tiny ball (squat and hug knees to chest to form ball) Also: There once was a giant who was tall, tall, tall (stretch up) There once was an elf who was small, small, small (squat down) The elf who is small Tried, tried, tried (slowly stretch up) To reach the giant=20 Who is high, high, high (stretch as tall as you can) Valarie Sandlian -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------- I have done The Eensy Weensy Spider and then The Great Big Giant Spider (for this we = stand up and use our whole body (arms & legs) to=20 be the spider. Lisa Cole Librarian - Youth Services -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------ Fingerplay: A great big ball [big round arms] A middle-sized ball [hands form a ball] A little ball I see [closed hands together] Let's count them all together One, [closed hands] two, [hands form ball] three! [big round arms] and a song I'm stretching very tall [do | do re mi fa |sol ] And now I'm very small [sol | sol fa mi re | do ] Now tall [ do | sol ] Now small [sol | do ] Now I'm a tiny ball [sol | sol fa mi re | do ] Suit the action to the words. have fun, Laurel -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------ An Elephant Mister Rabbit Shoe a little horse Clocks and Watches Little Birdie 5 little monkeys I saw a little birdie Little green froggie am I I had a little turtle 5 green peas 5 little ducks 3 little ducks I'm a little teapot Eency weency spider I can make my baby smile Little flea Little mousie This little piggy This little pig-a-wig ..also, anything with little in the title ... Little miss muffet Little bo peep Little boy blue Hope this helps! Kara Cervelli Children's librarian -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------ I don't know if this will help you but I have a wonderful book called = "I'm a Little Teapot!" compiled by Jane Cobb ISBN 0-9698666-0-7 = copyright 1996 that has a chapter on Giants and another on Teeny tiny = things that would be right up your alley! Hope this helps.=20 =20 Judy Errico Children's Librarian ------------------------------ From: Stephanie Stokes <stephanie@ssdesign.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: RE: What IS Madonna reading to her children Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:48:48 CST At 12:01 AM 11/20/03 -0600, PUBYAC wrote: >of the arrogance of celebrities, and the fact that they don't even >bother to find out what is available before they make carte blanche >statements that "there are NO other good books about..." I saw Madonna on Letterman too. She looked like someone had struck her from behind, she couldn't talk, she stammered, she paused she had no clue. BUT woo there...now-now no lumping celebrities all together. lets just say *the arrogance of a few celebrities* :-> lest we forget... http://www.libraryfoundationla.org/events/gregorypeck.php AND to the person who said (while I was living in San Francisco) "...well everyone knows no one in LA reads..." SOMEONE must be reading 'cause there sure are a lot of books being made into movies...."To Kill A Mockingbird", "Lord of the Rings", "Harry Potter", "Treasure Island", "The Postman", the list goes on and on... Found this clip from A hot Children's book store in LA I have not seen the full article ...you should check out the Storyopolis Book Store Web Site In Style Magazine, May 2003 Book 'em. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver's children have grown up reading books from Storyopolis (116 N. Robertson Blvd., 310-358-2500), a 6,000-square-foot bookstore and gallery that also caters to high-profile parents like Laura Dern and Ethan and Uma... http://www.storyopolis.com/media.asp See the Home page...I'm thinking of signing up for their *Events E-News* for programing ideas and inspiration. http://www.storyopolis.com/default_flash.asp IN an author interview with Maria Shriver... http://www.twbookmark.com/authors/98/1880/interview13710.html Question: What authors do you read with or to your children? Maria Shriver: Different ones to the different ages. My 8-year-old son loves Dr. Seuss books and the Magic Treehouse series. My 10-year-old daughter loves Judy B. Jones, and my older daughter and I just finished Princess Diaries. My baby loves anything his older brother loves. Stephanie Stokes, Library Media & PR http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/ ------------------------------ From: lingfltr@uiuc.edu To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Discipline Issues in the Library MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:50:33 CST Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting. I'm currently in a MLS/K-12 School Media Specialist certification program that requires I take a number of Education classes. I'm struggling to make some these classes relevant to libraries, in particular, my "Classroom Discipline & Management" class this semester. The Education students are learning strategies like they will be able to use in their individual and contained classrooms, but I'm having trouble creating my "personal discipline policy" (as the final project for this class asks us to do) for a school library. I'd like to focus my final project on discipline strategies in a flexible-use library (much like many high school and public libraries). I know this is a weird one, but does anyone have any suggestions or specific discipline policies (beyond "No Unaccompanied Children in the Library")? Or examples of discipline problems faced in a library setting? Please respond to me off the list if you do! And thanks in advance! Amy Lingafelter lingfltr@uiuc.edu ------------------------------ From: "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov> To: <library_groupie@hotmail.com>, Subject: RE: Verizon Commercial content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:51:05 CST Hi all~ I haven't seen this commercial, but I certainly would not allow that = kind of behavior in my children's section anyway. Plus, an adult would = not be able to check their email in my children's section, as our 3 = computers have no Internet access. They would have to march themselves = over to the adult end of the building for Internet & email access = anyway. (BTW, kids can also use those Internet computers).=20 Beverly Bixler bbixler@sanantonio.gov San Antonio Public Library, TX=20 ------------------------------ From: Jeannie Kunzinger <jkunzing@leaguecitylibrary.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Parents and Discipline Issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:52:53 CST At 12:26 AM 11/20/2003, Elaine wrote: >pubyac@prairienet.org How not to be the meany. Ask the children over and offer stickers for whatever it is that the parent or you want them to do (walk, indoor voice). Make a deal with the kids. This doesn't solve your dilemma (parents inability to discipline or control their children), but makes a great friend of the kids. I have watched parents unsuccessfully deal with a repeat behavior and "helped" out in this way and the parent always goes away grateful. Bribery is bribery and I am not past using it. Jeannie Kunzinger Helen Hall Libaray ------------------------------ From: "G Gallagher" <gglibrarian@hotmail.com> To: library_groupie@hotmail.com, pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Verizon Commercial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:53:14 CST My husband has gotten very quick to change the channel with the remote when this commercial comes on because I always end up yelling at the TV and then ranting about children's rooms not being like that and why were they letting her use one of the children's computers anyway?! So I guess the answer is yes- it pushes my buttons. Genevieve Genevieve Gallagher Youth Services Librarian Orange County Public Library Orange, Virginia >From: "Chris Gibrich" <library_groupie@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: library_groupie@hotmail.com >To: pubyac@prairienet.org >Subject: Verizon Commercial >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:21:58 CST > >Good morning! >I was wondering if anyone else has seen a Verizon commercial that's been >airing (at least around here) recently? It has a busy female executive >trying to check her email on a computer in what I (and everyone I've talked >to locally) assume is a children's area in a library... She's bombarded by >spitballs, then the picture zooms out and children are running rampant, >throwing things, while this lady is squeezed in at a kiddie sized desk, >with >rows of picture books in the background. The voice-over says something >about Always checking your email in the wrong place? and goes on to push >their wireless internet service and options via cell phone. > >Does it push anyone else's buttons, or is it just me? >:) christie > >Christie Gibrich >Teen/ Young Adult Services Librarian >Roanoke Public Library >308 S. Walnut >Roanoke, Texas 76262 > ------------------------------ From: "Ellen Little" <elittle@pts.edu> To: <mailforsilver@yahoo.com>, Subject: RE: Parents and Discipline Issues Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:53:32 CST Because my husband is a big man, we have had parents say similar things = to their children & use my husband as their threat, or worse, say the = same things about policemen. I'm sure we could all use a good, = thoughtful reply, so if anyone knows one, let us all know! Ellen Little Circulation Supervisor Barbour Library Pittsburgh Theological Seminary 412-441-3304 x2274 elittle@pts.edu -----Original Message----- From: Elaine [mailto:mailforsilver@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:26 AM To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Parents and Discipline Issues Dear Pubyac, I have a pet peeve. It's parents who come in with their children into = the library and when the child does something like run around or yell and = scream or jump up and down on the beanbag chair, instead of disciplining = his/her own child and saying "I don't want you to run/yell/scream like that." Instead, they will bring the child over to me or point over to me and = say something like, "See the librarian? She said you can't run or she's = going to kick you out of the library" or "Look at the librarian. She's getting = very mad at you and she's going to scream at you if you don't stop." This annoys me so much! I feel it feeds into the stereotype that = librarians are mean and out to get you! I usually don't say anything back, but = today, when the patron said, "See the librarian? She says not to run!" I said = to the patron, "Really, I said that?" She says, "Yeah, librarians always = say that." I said, "Oh that's funny, I didn't hear it." And left it at that. Yeah, that might have been a little snotty on my part, but I was fed up! Anyone else go through this? What other comeback can you have that shows it's not a good idea to place the disciplining/rules in the librarian's hands, instead of the parent taking responsibility. I don't want to be = mean about, feeding into the stereotype yet again, but I wish there were a = gentle way to get a point across. Suggestions? Comments? Other rants? Thanks! Elaine ------------------------------ From: Mitzi Thomas <mthomas@co.st-johns.fl.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Verizon commercial MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:53:49 CST I have seen this commercial too. I think it is funny! ------------------------------ From: Rebecca Amstutz <amstutre@oplin.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Madonna's new book...on a positive note MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:54:06 CST I just wanted to say that even though Madonna's comments about no worthwhile childrens books, was absolutely ridiculous I would like to say that I actually enjoyed reading her just released book...Mr. Peabody's Apples. After a conference I attended two weekends ago ...Reading more and loving it, given by Jim Trelease... I was motivated to read this book once it was published. Jim Trelease began the review by saying "Not another celeb. childrens book!", but by the time he finished reading the book, it became one that is on his "must read" list. So I read it and it is a very good story, with excellent illustrations. Now, nobody knows how many people helped her write this story (especially since I have heard a version of the lesson taught in the story before), but never the less, I bought it for the library because I did like the story, and it would be a shame not to read or own her latest book just because of her ignorance. But just to note...after reading some of the reviews for her first book...I plan on NOT buying "The English Rose" (or whatever it is titled) for our collection. Oh, and I also agree that someone needs to say somthing to support the number of awesome children's books that are out there and available to the public, even the famous. Just my personal opinion... Becky Amstutz Youth Services Coordinator Bluffton Public Library ------------------------------ From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org> To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: ethical dilemma MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:56:36 CST I work in a library but don't have an MLS. That said, of course we'd give the patron the book s/he wants! No question, no ethical dilemma. If the parent is right there, it's up to the parent to make the child obey. If not, tough on them. Patron makes request, request is filled. End of story. Bonita My scenario is this: A child (say age 8 to 10) comes to the reference desk at a public library and tells the librarian that he/she wants information on sex and reproduction. The child's parents refuse to tell the child anything about it, so he/she has come to the library. So, should the librarian provide the info or not? The ALA Bill of Rights states that information should be supplied to all users regardless of age, but a librarian would need to also consider the parents' wishes and weigh the possible implications of angry parents (or the community) coming down on the library as a result. ------------------------------ From: "Beverly Bixler" <bbixler@sanantonio.gov> To: <MalibuInc@aol.com>, Subject: RE: What IS Madonna reading to her children?? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:56:54 CST Hi Malibu~ Wonderful idea. Are you going to send the list to Madonna? We could = inundate her with thousands of titles. Anyway, here are a few = suggestions for picture books for the younger children: Where the Wild Things Are by Sendak Outside Over There by Sendak Curious George series by Rey Arthur & D. W. series by Brown Snowy Day by Keats Peter's Chair by Keats Whistle for Willie by Keats Katy No Pocket by Payne My Friend Rabbit by Rohmann Madeline series by Bemelmans Max & Ruby series by Wells Yoko & Yoko's Paper Cranes by Wells K is for Kitten by Leopold & Jeffers Cat Up a Tree by Hassett Sleep Tight, Ginger Kitten by Geras Cats Know Best by Eisler This and That by Sykes A few books by my favorite author/illustrators: Jan Brett: On Noah's Ark Comet's Nine Lives Gingerbread Baby The Mitten The Hat Hedgie's Surprise Armadillo Rodeo Beauty & the Beast Goldilocks & the Three Bears Town Mouse, Country Mouse (and many others) Trina Schart Hyman: Little Red Riding Hood Snow White Sleeping Beauty Child's Calendar Comus Fortune-Tellers Iron John King Stork Saint George & the Dragon Sense Pass King Swan Lake Water of Life (and many others) Ruth Sanderson: Papa Gatto Cinderella Crystal Mountain Enchanted Wood Golden Mare, the Firebird & the Magic Ring Rose Red & Snow White Twelve Dancing Princesses Where Have the Unicorns Gone? (and many more) Beverly Bixler bbixler@sanantonio.gov San Antonio Public Library, TX=20 ------------------------------ From: "Nicole Reader" <Nicole.Reader@ci.benicia.ca.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>, <mailforsilver@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Parents and Discipline Issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:59:25 CST When this has happened to me (and it has), I handle it directly. I first = ask the adult, "Oh, please don't make me into the bogeyman!" I point out = that we want the child to be comfortable asking me for help with their = homework questions in years to come. I make sure to tell the adult that = I'm glad that she is aware of the library's behavior guidelines, and I = thank her for her good intentions in disciplining her child. Finally, I = explain that the child should be helped to understand that the behavior = guidelines are for the benefit of other patrons, not because of a mean and = angry librarian. This has always been a successful approach. Extreme case: when I worked at the Stockton-San Joaquin County Library, I = even heard a patron tell her child, "If you don't shut up, the librarian = is going to hit you!" My excellent supervisor, Jane Cook, marched over = and announced, "I most certainly am not!" =20 Good luck! ------------------------------ From: "Michelle Ornat" <mornat@CHESAPEAKE.LIB.VA.US> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: What IS Madonna reading to her children?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:07:29 CST For stereotypes and perceptions to change about librarianship, children's services and reading, we must do the outreach, the informing and the advocating. Kudos to those who "gently enlighten" artists, authors, celebrities, administrators, board members, etc! Michelle Ornat Children's Librarian Indian River Library Chesapeake Public Library System 757-227-5861 ------------------------------ From: "Kelly Czarnecki" <kczarnec@illinoisalumni.org> To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Karen Hesse Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:16:01 CST Hi- Has anyone had Karen Hesse come to their library and speak? How was she? What are her fees? Thanks in advance! Kelly Czarnecki Young Adult Librarian Bloomington Public Library ------------------------------ From: "Paula Anderson" <paulaan@lori.state.ri.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: re: Verizon commercial Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:16:25 CST I can only imagine that if the woman was actually interacting with HER = children (or class) and not goofing off on the internet, she wouldn't be = covered in spitballs. Or she would at least be badgering the librarian = to discipline her kids for her. ;^) Paula Anderson Warwick PL Warwick RI ------------------------------ From: MzLibrary@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: New forwarding process Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:16:41 CST Sorry. I should have clarified that I receive the Digest version of PUBYAC. That means, therefore, that any reply to sender would reply to PUBYAC and not the writer of the email. I would think, then, that anyone receiving the Digest version should be aware that a reply will go directly to PUBYAC and that the new forwarding procedure is not relevant. CRABBITT mzlibrary@aol.com crabbitt@townofpeterborough.us http://townofpeterborough.com/library ------------------------------ From: "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net> To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: looking for a bath time craft Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:21:16 CST Hi all, I plan to do a bath time storytime and have selected some books and rhymes to use but can't think of a simple craft. Can anyone out there help? Thanks in advance! April Mazza Youth Services Wayland Public Library (508) 358-2308 AMazza@minlib.net ------------------------------ From: Erika Burge <eburge@esls.lib.wi.us> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Egypt evening program MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:21:33 CST Hi Guys -- I know this was touched on a few months ago, but I'm short on information. I'm planning to do a school age evening program on Egypt -- third graders at the local public schools do a project on ancient Egypt so I thought that I'd try to tie it to that. I'm looking for ideas for activities and games -- many of the projects and crafts that I've found online are more suited to several days in a classroom than an hour at the library. Thanks so much! Erika Erika Burge Children's Librarian Cedarburg Public Library W63 N583 Hanover Avenue Cedarburg, WI 53012 ------------------------------ From: Dale McNeill <dmcneill@dallaslibrary.org> To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Positions at the Dallas Public Library MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:21:48 CST Hello-- Librarian H is listed as one of the "Open" positions with the City of Dallas. This is the entry-level librarian position. http://dallascityhall.com/dallas/eng/html/employment.html Applications are accepted by the Civil Service Department of the City of Dallas. Please consider applying! We are currently hiring for a Spanish language selector, the coordinator of Selection Services, and archivst. I've included a bit more information about the archivist position. History and Archives Librarian (Archivist) This position provides reference service for all local history materials held by the Texas/Dallas History and Archives Division. This position is also responsible for processing manuscript collections, the acquisition of new collections, preparing finding guides, supervising archives volunteers, coordinating the division's exhibits program, conducting community outreach programs, and implementing appropriate electronic descriptive/access systems. Relevant experience and knowledge of Texas and Dallas history preferred. Candidate must have a thorough knowledge of archival theory and methods of historical research. A master's degree in library science or a history-related field with archival administration certificate or certified archivist with master's degree will qualify. http://dallaslibrary.org/CTX/ctx.htm Dale McNeill Dallas Public Library 214.670.7842 ------------------------------ From: Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Verizon commercial MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:22:05 CST Hi Chris, I have seen that commercial several times but I thought that it was either in a day-care center or class room. I never thought it was a library, especially with all the chaos going on with the kids. I'm going to watch for it and pay more attention next time. But, if it is supposed to be a library I don't think I would be bothered by it. Primarily because conceptually I think it's ridiculous. What executive would be reduced to checking her e-mail at her kid's day-care/school/library? She's so important that she can't wait until she gets to work? Or, if it is so important, shouldn't her company be providing her with a mobile Internet connection? Or, if the message is supposed to be that it's the only location she could find to check her e-mail, that's even worse because with all the Internet cafes (or at the very least, the adult Internet area in a library) I think she would have plenty of other options. Take care, Jennie ------------------------------ From: Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Parents and Discipline Issues MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:22:22 CST Elaine, I completely sympathize and agree with you. In addition to them using "the mean old librarian" to discipline their children, they are also contantly blaming other people for their mistakes too. Just today I overheard a woman standing at the circulation desk telling her child that there was a problem with them checking out Nickelodeon magazine. She basically said that the "library woman" had told them that they hadn't returned all three magazines that they had checked out and for that reason they weren't going to check out any more magazines. I mean, really, talking about not accepting responsibility for these things. Why not teach the kid that they have to make sure they return their borrowed materials on time instead of forbidding them from checking it out? Although the kid was probably only about 7 years old, maybe the parent should teach herself about responsibility. I also actually overhead one mom tell her kid that they weren't going to check out any more videos because the fines were too high and that "you always forget to return the videos on time" (she said this to her child who was about 3 or 4!!!) And I see more and more parents passing off the blame for things onto the librarians/library staff. This summer I had SEVERAL parents who came in WAY after our Summer Library Program was over and tried to collect the prizes for their kids. When I told them that the deadline was the last day in August they said "well, I couldn't GET to the library and now you're going to punish my kid for that?" Then they'd turn to their kid and say the librarian says you can't have your prizes. I would like to point out here that they had two and a half months to collect prizes. Argh! Very frustrating. Take care, Jennie Jennie J. Stoltz Children's Services Coordinator Frank L. Weyenberg Library Mequon/Thiensville, WI ------------------------------ From: "Theresa Maturevich" <theresam@ocln.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Mesh bags MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:22:39 CST Hi- I'm wondering if someone out there can help with a puppet storage problem I'm having. We have a sizable collection of circulating puppets. They used to be kept in vinyl hanging bags but those got ripped on a regular basis so we switched to a yellow mesh bag with a drawstring. The bags also have a white band around the middle on which the name of the puppet can easily be written. Unfortuantely, I cannot remember where I bought these bags from. Does it ring a bell to anyone or do you know of a suitable alternative? Janway carrys mesh bags but they are expensive and we really don't want to go back to the hanging bags. Thanks for your help, Theresa Maturevich Children's Librarian Norwell Public Library Norwell, MA 02061 (781) 659-2015 ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Steinbrenner" <jsteinbr@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" Subject: New library ideas (composite) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:22:55 CST Here is a composite of the responses I received regarding ideas for a new children's area. Thanks to all who replied: Here's a link to some slides of the Toledo-Lucas County Public Library (Ohio). Children's department slides start around #8 or so. The Gala link may also help get a few different views. http://www.toledolibrary.org/new/construction.html **** I am Youth Services Librarian at a small public library in northern Wisconsin. Our building is 12 years old. We have a large children's area with 13 wood shelves for three separate collections: ER (easy reader), J (junior), and CH (children's non-fiction). We have four small tables and chairs, a lego table, two double sided shelves that house puzzles, games, blocks, and other educational toys. We have one children's computer that has several educational/book related games. In one corner is a puppet theater and we have three large buckets filled with puppets (mostly folkmanis). We have decorated with many (nice) large stuffed animals (donated or found at garage sales). Those really "cozy up" the place, not to mention adds lots of color. At the far end is our "story pit" where I conduct storytimes twice a week. There are four rounded stairs and at the bottom is where my chair is. A couple years ago we hired a local art teacher who paints murals to paint a castle scene on the walls of the story pit. It's AWESOME! We hope to add more murals in the future. *** How exciting to plan the Children's Room. I had that experience myself in 1998 when I began this job in Allegan. We piggybacked on our state forest that is adjacent to our town. When you come into our Children's Rm. you feel a bit like you are entering a woods in early autumn. The walls are butterscotch and a paler version of that colorfor the window frames. The ceiling beams are forest green. There's a tree with maple leaves (produced by a movie props co. in Columbus, OH) that has stuffed woods creatures on branches and a hole in the trunk. The tree is surrounded by our computer table with 4 computers and 8 chairs. The end panels of JF are burgundy and tan and a rusty red fabric that serves as smallish display areas. The carpet is a berber that has all these colors in it. Our bldg. is 1914 vintage but is now very cozy and welcoming. It also has a parent/child reading couch, love seat size, in a leafy fabric. It is rarely uninhabited, and adult patrons are drawn to it and the room for its calming effect (unless there are 20+ children using it--then it's not quite as calm). We also have a fish tank which has great appeal, though I'm still trying to delegate the cleaning of it elsewhere--the compromise is that it is a teen volunteer job that is done with me, and in this way I have gotten to know several teens rather well over these last 6 yrs. I wish you well in your project. I do think it's nice to have an idea that reflects your own particular town and local interests. *** Our library's remolding project in 2000 included a new children's area. We don't have a "theme", but a couple of years ago we used paper sacks and wallpaper paste to turn one of the large pillars into a "tree". We also have used our large floor to ceiling windows to paint "ads" for our programs and to record our summer reading results. Check out photos of our room at our website www.plainfield.lib.in.us/children/child.html then click on "Photo Album" on the left side of the page. *** Take a tour of this beautiful library! http://www.wblib.org/virtualtour/mainentry.html *** Jeanne Steinbrenner Children's Librarian Pittsford Community Library Pittsford, NY ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 1271 *************************
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